On Shepard Smith's Studio B, an 8th general has called for Rumsfeld’s resignation. Ret. Marine General Paul Van Ripper was interviewed by FOX News reporter Bret Baier.

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Van Riper claims that he constantly talks with many active duty and retired senior officers who share his view that there needs to be new civilian leadership in the Pentagon. He says that Rumsfeld has not fought the war in Iraq competantly and has run the Pentagon with intimidation. FOX does try to play up the "second hand "information angle, but since Murtha came forward-we all know how many of our military leaders really feel.