Bob Geiger has the latest ridiculous statement McConnell's made, this time on the Employee Free Choice Act.
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Wow, what a surprise - a politician that lies!!
Man, I never would've expected that!!!
Seriously, though, the founders warned us about giving politicians too much power - and told us to have a "healthy distrust" of our government. I think, as a society, we've gone away from that in the past few decades, and Bush just might be our punishment.
Some further reading:
"Politicians Lie? Say it Ain't So!"
http://www.populistamerica.com/politicians_lie___say_it_ain_t_so
Uffa . . .
Thats not McConnell thats a turtle in a cheap suit.
Question: How can you tell when most politicians lie?
Answer: Their lips move, (also their wallets flap open).
Isn't there some scandal that can get Mitchy out of Washington?
Now, it's clear, he's a lying sack, and probably up to his elbows in corruption..but, that's just standard fare with his party?
Can't we find some text message he sent to a page, or a picture of him dressed up as a woman....
Wait, Rudy is leading the Republics in the polls for President in '08, so evidently being a transvestite is all the rage this year in Republic-Land?
I remember reading in some article that McConnells eyes would always glaze over when ever money is discussed.
Will someone, anyone, please CUT his freaking strings! He looks like "howdy-doo-dee" and it scars ME!
He is a puppet and a bad one at that! When will the South open their eyes to his back washing, spitting words!?
American Psycho @ 6:
Shows how uninformed the old USSR Politburo was during the cold war.
For a fraction of the amount they spent on their ICBMs, they could have bought the majority of the Congress critters.
It works quite well for a nameless ME country, which seems to dictate US foreign policy.
This guy is a lying sack of shit! Look at that picture -- his dong is NOT even close to that size.
Everytime I am reminded that the approval ratings for the Democrat led Congress are at 23%, I think about Mitch O'Connell and the fact that the Dems put the Repugs out of power.
Yep! It COULD be worse!
Union busting is as traditional with the Fascist party as lynchings and the Fourth of July barbecue. Mr. McConnell is only one in a long line of meretricious greed freaks who would gladly go over Niagara Falls in a barrel for the right price. Except he wants us to all go with him. When is this nonsense going to stop?
I know that politicians lie. What's new? We need to get the money out of politics, but neither the Dems or Republicans want to really do that.
Two interesting things:
1) When the Republicans were in power, any attempt at filibustering by the Dems were squashed by the Republicans by saying "up and down vote" and threatening the "nuclear option." Maybe it is time for the Dems to do the same thing.
2) The Republicans show again that they do not care about workers, only business (and money). Why don't I see adverts on tv about how they do not care? That is what the Republicans and their agencies did.
Who is voting on these unions the Chinese or the india people. certainly we dont need unions when they are willing to 5.15 and hour with no benefits. Part time and have to pee in a bottle everyday
Who is voting on these unions the Chinese or the india people. certainly we dont need unions when they are willing to pay 5.15 and hour with no benefits. Part time and have to pee in a bottle everyday.
Yes the congress approval rating is at 26% and the reichwing media is going to remind us every single day. I just wonder if 90% of the poll participants are dim witted republic supporters?
Word press is acting a bit weird tonight.
Brian
Two interesting things:
1) When the Republicans were in power, any attempt at filibustering by the Dems were squashed by the Republicans by saying “up and down vote” and threatening the “nuclear option.” Maybe it is time for the Dems to do the same thing.
2) The Republicans show again that they do not care about workers, only business (and money). Why don’t I see adverts on tv about how they do not care? That is what the Republicans and their agencies did.
It's exactly what i have trying to say for the last 2 days. When DeLay was in charge, he wouldn't even let a democratic bill or resolution go to the floor. Any bills that this administration wants passed should be stifled. Take the ball out of their court and put in ours. Just work on bills that aren't contraversital and to heel with anything they want. It will give the democrats more time to do the investigations and start convicting these crooks.
Mitch; I'm not a food service employee but, you might want to consider what you are eating. That pesto might be snot.
my man mitch, actually this guy looks like something that came out of a maggots ass!
Looking at McConnell, I've always wondered, at what point did his face melt?
McConnell takes lying to a new level...he will say anything to defend his crime family bosses.
As a practical matter, the EFCA will eliminate secret ballot elections. That is the whole purpose of the amendment to the Wagner Act.
Employees won't get to choose to vote, as Gieger suggests, because as soon as the union signs enough authorization cards, the EFCA requires the NLRB to certify the union as the bargaining representative without an election.
The whole purpose of the EFCA is to certify unions without elections. You can argue that this is a good thing, but it is wholly disingenuous to pretend that isn't what the bill is designed to do. No union in its right mind is going to petition the board for an election when it can bypass the procedure. They typically obtain more than 50% authorizations before petitioning for an election now.
The unions are arguing that employees shouldn't vote on whether they want a union because the election procedure is per se coercive, due to pervasive employer misconduct. Pretending that the purpose of the EFCA isn't to eliminate or virtually eliminate secret ballot elections in the workplace is blatantly misleading.
If it is one thing the Republicans absolutely despise, it is unions. While unions do have their problems, they are absolutely necessary to protect workers' interests. John Edwards has strong union backing which scares the hell out of the GOP. This is why they send out their attack dogs in Michele Malkin and Ann Coulter to personally attack him.
This is one geeky looking SOB. Where is he from? Where do they make people that look that stupid?
I know we've got a few "lookers" on the Democratic side of the aisle, but these dudes are downright scary!
He is just a mouthpiece, don't even bother to listen to him.
Alex @ 22:
So let me get this straight. The claim is that Unions will use this method to coerce workers who have no where to go for protection if they respond in the negative? Are you KIDDING??? AS IF workers needed to be protected from UNIONS. What a load of bullshit.
What exactly does the word "association " mean in regards to the Restaurant association.?
What exactly is the GOP ?
Corporate America collaborates all the time. Aren't they sort of unions?
The Association of the Republican Party is in fact a sort of union. They belong to ideals(supposedly) in a collective manner to have the strength of the mass of its members. They have good health care, pay and benefits, as retirement.
And all that derives from taxes paid from the very people they deny their vote to enable Americans to do the same as they. How about that................................
Damn!
I used to enjoy going out to Outback.
No more.
Please visit the Schapira blog, What we know so far ...
... and tell 'em Big Mitch sent ya!
C,mon, even these days we need a few rules to be followed in writings.
Can't everyone agree that using 'lying' and '(R)' to describe the same person, is unacceptable redundancy?
Some one mentioned a scandle about Mitch. I read him and Lindsay Graham have the same problem. Yes he is married. What is that comment men in loose fitting loafers. Nothing wrong with that unless you push anti gay legislation and are a hypocrite.
I would like some clarification on these. From what I have read, it is entirely possible under this bill for a worker to end up being required to unionize and join a union in order to keep her job without ever being part of a secret ballot on the issue.
If some majority of workers sign cards asking for a union and agreeing to forego a secret ballot on it then a union gets formed, right?
Since it is not a secret who signs the cards or not, a majority of workers in a non-secret vote (signing the cards) can create a situation where even if there are workers who want a secret vote, they can't have one?
Do I not understand this correctly? If so, then the right to a secret ballot has been taken away, albeit by a majority of workers using a non-secret ballot process.
Every single corporatist, republican, anti-union guess what...its time to put your a$$ where your mouth is.....if you're so against it....then you must do the following to avoid hypocrisy...which for you...is like giving up your money (infinitely impossible)....no more paid vacation...sorry, no more paid benefits...better sell those bootstraps for your kids braces, no more legal representation against your employer...no matter what they do...hey...you wanted it...you got it. I could go on....but you're probably under the delusion that all of those thing you take for granted a daily basis are the result of 'fair market value', competitive employment inducements or the 'genuine' kindness of the corporation...you happen to be a slave to...sorry...'work' for.
You can take the absolute worst thing a union has ever done...and it doesn't even come within the same universe as the evil exercised by about 98% of board member controlled & privatized corporation leadership on a daily basis.... Want to go a few rounds....lets start with IBM...circa 1930s...
As long as the American worker believes in the mythical Cosmic Book of Objective Labor Pricing, they will continue to buy this bullshit from the Republicans: UNION as predator. Why? Because unions require dues from their members and once a contract is in place for any particular group of labor sellers, then all other sellers of that same labor in that same area potentially benefit, as their employers will improve pay and conditions to avoid having their employees join that union.
John and Jane Doe America believe soundly in the concept that all labor has a set "worth" dictated by employers. They believe that what they are paid is unquestionably what they are "worth" in terms of labor sales. Therefore, the union becomes a "taker", the employer a "giver".
Sadly, John and Jane also believe that their employer employs at all out of some goodwill or philanthropic concern rather than in commercial need of labor to maintain the trade in which the employer is engaged.
In FRAUD we trust @ 26:
That's not the point. The point is that the EFCA does replace secret ballot elections with card checks. Saying it doesn't is dishonest.
You can argue that card checks are superior, because employees secret ballot votes are inherently coerced. But saying that the EFCA doesn't replace secret ballots with card checks is disingenuous.
And yes, not all unions are perfect, just like many employers are far from perfect, and some have been known in the past to use coercion, to threaten employees, etc., etc.
But the debate on both sides of this issue is far from frank.
Terry @ 31:
It's not only possible, it is the purpose of the EFCA. Elections would be almost entirely eliminated, except where employees want to decertify a union.
No. If a majority sign cards, there is no election. There is no separate waiver of the ballot.
That's basically correct. Although only the union and the NLRB knows who signs the cards, not the employer.
Say you have a unit 40 employees, and 21 of them are invited to a pizza party at the union hall, with free beer and 20 or 30 other members and business agents. Afterwords, they pass out cards and ask them to sign them. If the 21 sign cards, all 40 are in the union.
Then why did this thread of comments begin with someone saying that McConnell was lying? It totally destroys progressive credibility when we act like the climate change deniers and distort facts or make false allegations.
Terry @ 36:
I agree.
But the commentator linked and cited, Gieger, accused McConnell of lying, and several Democratic Congressmen gave misleading comments about the EFCA so there you have it.
Most people don't know anything about labor laws, and the unions have done a better than fair job of obfuscating the issues here.
Our side is being incredibly disingenuous when it says the EFCA won't substantially eliminate secret ballot elections as a method of selecting employee representatives and replace it with card checks. That is the sole purpose of the Act.
And it reverses 72 years of Labor Law. One of the central features of the Wagner Act was the certification of bargaining representatives by secret ballot election.
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