Feel like hurling a typewriter?
By Nicole Belle Saturday Jul 07, 2007 8:35amThis op-ed appeared last week in a small newspaper and got a pretty big response. I suspect that the author's feelings are all too common right now and it has to make Republicans nervous:
I supported the Iraq War in the beginning, but as its mismanagement grew, so did my disillusionment. Yet I remained a Republican.
Then the rains came. When the New Orleans levees gave way, so did my belief in the Republican Party. This was an American city, pulverized by nature - though with plenty of notice, unlike an earthquake - and although the local and state authorities (which were Democrats) reacted with monumental ineptitude, I had confidence that a Republican administration would get the situation under control and lead a swift rebuilding.
That hasn't happened. Instead, a great American city has been left to pull itself out of the mess while thousands of American citizens haven't been able get decent housing or assistance from the federal government, which is firmly in the hands of the Republicans. Maybe the Republicans were grossly incompetent or simply indifferent because most of the hardest-hit victims were poor or non-white or both. No matter what, a Republican administration showed itself to be either monumentally inept or cruelly, methodically callous.
Either way, I didn't want anything more to do with the Republicans. So I declared myself an Independent and have been so since.








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One word: Republicanasswipes.
Fuckin' A
Anyone who supports war deserves what he or she gets.
Why did it take that person so long to see reality? Even before Katrina, it was so freakin' obvious
I have sympathy for the war supporter for he only cares for his on behind or that of his buddies.
As for the humiltaion, murder and torture of innocent people and animals in other lands, he couldn't care less.
A good side of the story is, he finally realized how bad the administration is.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-indep...
Yeah but Ron,his opinion changed only becuase of a badly run government. As mentioned this will happen again cause people like him support the killing of others so long as it doesn't effect him. So in the future the new evildoers will figure out away to kill in stealth.
Blindness can take many forms other than the inability to see. Fanatics are often blinded in their thoughts. Leaders are often blinded in their hearts.
We have a leader who listens to "voices" in his head. It was obvious to me from the first time he said that "god" spoke to him
that he was a very dangerous man to have in the whitehouse, especially since he has a demon (cheney) sitting there with him.
Has anyone figured out how many days are left to Bushistan?
THE CANCER REMAINS
John Dean told Richard Nixon over 30 years ago that there was a cancer on the presidency. He was right and he was wrong. The cancer was Richard Nixon but it was not on the presidency, it was in the body of America.
When Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon so that the "nation could heal" he condemned America to death by allowing that cancer to remain and grow and matasticize. It is back in the executive branch and has also infected the legislative branch and the judicial branch. It is killing America.
The cancer must be destroyed. It must be cut out of the body by impeachment, irradiated by prosecution and totally eradicated through the chemotherapy of justice. To do otherwise is to allow America to die.
Nancy Pelosi did not have the authority to take impeachment off the table. Impeachment is on the table and that table is the Constitution of the United States. The only way to remove impeachment as the right and just way to deal with an out of control executive branch is to pass a Constitutional amendment!!!!
Impeachment is the scalpel needed to remove the disease that now infects OUR government. Impeachment must begin NOW!!!!
We can only hope that millions more will wake up.
Why did it take that person so long to see reality? Even before Katrina, it was so freakin’ obvious.
So true. And these people think of themselves as serious and smart individuals. The country is loaded with tools and fools.
Impeachment is worthless. As long as these guys are alive they will work to destroy the US. They have destrroyed the country I respected for the last 65 years of my life. I'm sorrry I have children to whom I am leaving this mess. To them, I'M SORRY. I wish I had some control but unforunately, I didn't.
WAKE UP! Shout it from the rooftop WAKE UP!
We got the government we deserved. All of us. Yeah, you too.
I tried posting over there but couldn't for some reason. Like the other commenters here I'm less than impressed with Steve Thomas's "change of heart" and also with his rambling self justifications. His commenters are reflective of what we as active, thoughtful, citizens are up against. Thomas, by his own description, was simply too lazy and too self satisfied to look seriously at what politics is, what is at stake, and how his own vote figures into the entire process that is our political life and political world as a country. He drifted along certain that whoever got screwed in the process it wasn't going to be him. All that has changed is that the level of crony capitalism, sheer corruption, incompetence and malevolence of the party he has supported has suddenly become clear to him. But he hasn't fully come to terms with the fact that there are only two players in our current system. If he isn't willing to vote democratic and fight for democratic ideals he is, by default, leaving our country in the hands of people he actually knows are corrupt and doing damage to us. he knows now what he bought and he says he doesn't like it, but he isn't really willing (for whatever reason) to fight back. Instead, he sits in the dark hoping that someone else will come along and do gthe heavy lifting for him.
As for his commenters--they are outraged that anyone would be so unmanly as to even for good cause reject tribal loyalty to the GOP. No matter how bad any single incident has been, they say, the democrats would have done the same (so why vote against dems) or worse (the imaginary world in which a party which fights for the direct oppositge of your party's plans and schemes miraculously produces something that is identical to or worse than your own party?). One commenter even made explicigt his conviction that the only real problem america has is *other americans* by saying he would rather side with al quaeda than liberals and their filthy kind. And they call *us* unpagtriotic.
Frankly, its not enough to call yourself an indpendent Steve Thomas. Until you throw the fucking typewriter at your own head you haven't even begun to pay the price you owe the rest of us for your gullibility.
aimai
I had a similar reaction. I've been Independent my entire adult life, but the GOP pissed me enough to go and join the Democrats.
Impeachment is a best a short term solution. The real solution long term is to vote out every Republican lockstepper and replace them with reasonable, moderate public servants who have integrity, service, and a forward thinking agenda as their core values, not a backward, psychotic and delusional "philosophy." Until concerned voters act to change what is today---the status quo will continue indefinitely.
While many on this blog want immediate action and results---sorry, it's going to take some time. If we persist---we will overcome.
screech @ 11:
The truth is that these people are ifluenced by the MSM which I refer to as EXTREME RIGHT WING MAIN STREAM MEDIA (ERWMSM). As a Fox producer said, "If you don't hear it, did it happen." The media has been complicit in promoting a war. With the information the republicans were fed they ate it up. We as democrats have independent thought and question serious discussion. It is something that the sheeple lack.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-indep...
This guy should be commended for writing this piece. I know that we are all trained to be on one side or another, liberal or conservative, but I only hope and pray that one day we can be AMERICANS again. Bush and Co. have made it virtually impossible to do this due to partisan B.S. And this coming from the guy who promised to be a "uniter, not a divider". Please.
I have many Republican friends who I feel sorry for because the party that they were once a part of and that I had some basic philosophical, but not ridiculous, differences with has been pirated by these (insert expletives or colorful derogatory adjectives here) thugs.
Agree totally with the cancer analogy. The Bush administration backed, by its neocon ideologues, is a huge cancer that has been allowed to metastasize into every single branch and office in government, and now even includes the electoral system. It is killing democracy, and will likely finish the job if something isn't done soon. Unfortunately, even the highest court in the land and the DOJ have been consumed. I'm afraid it may already be too late? Impeachment is the only answer.
Bush and Cheney should be impeached because they think it can't happen to them. Let's set an example for future leaders. You are not the law, the American people are. The government should fear us, we should not be living in fear of them (Patriot Act). Let's get it together people and take these two bastards down and restore our dignity in the eyes of the world. Bush, Cheney- UNACCEPTABLE!
I think Katrina was the turning point for a lot of folks. It was for me. Actually, it was more like the straw that broke the camel's back, but either way, it finally got me over that hump.
Yes, it's great to be independent. Independence is wonderful. Especially when you wear the blinders covering your view of the corporate servitude under which you remain independence.
The '08 elections will tell us whether the GOP is just slightly wounded or has a life-threatening injury. Their biggest problem is that voters have wised up to the political smoke and mirrors that worked so well in the past.
Phony wedge issues such as gay marriage can't win many votes when people see a bloody, mismanaged war in Iraq, skyrocketing health care cost, stagnant wages, high gas prices and a 300 year-old US city practically destroyed and uninhabitable. By any standards, that's a record of incredible failure.
Corruption, incompetence and cronyism are exactly what GOP leadership has always given America. Unfortunately for them, this time the labels have stuck.
http://www.gregpalast.com/
Yeah, pretty much the whole world runs on corruption.
I recently visited New Orleans and from speaking with residents I was struck by how the middle class is suffering too from neglect - insurance money hasn't come through, FEMA is a pittance and then there is the price gouging by contractors.
What is sad about this is that Republicans do not connect or understand that their party's mantra of "small government" is represented by the failures of Katrina. Bush's failures in Katrina perfectly reflect Republicanism "small government" and not incompetence. The failure of Katrina is a failure of Republican ideology. Their party's opposition to government intervention in people's lives is there for all to see in Katrina. Their hawish views stare them in the face when looking at the failure of Iraq. Conservatives do not know that Bush has lived up to their party ideals. Bush is successful, but they don't approve and people say Bush was incompetent--NONSENSE!
To Steve Thomas:
Steve, It is said that hindsight is 20/20. You had every opportunity prior to this administration's second term to realize that something was not right. But your blind allegiance in the face of facts allowed you to cast your eyes in a different direction. You covered your ears to the other side's words and basically bleated, "la la la I can't hear you". Yours was an active denial. Yours was a enabling allegiance. Yours was an absolute agenda.
Steve, you are the type of guy that embraced the Republican party because it was the "in thing" to do. No one wanted to be branded a "Liberal" for fear of being ostracized, ridiculed and punished for supposed anti-American thinking.
Now, the tide is turning. Your man's popularity is at an all-time low. 45% of people polled recently embrace impeachment of not one, but two of the top criminals in the White House.
Now, when it is becoming fashionable to be a true American again and question your government's actions, now you turn about face and decry, deny and lambast your party.
You are part of the problem. You are the fertilizer that nourishes this party. You claim to be an Independent, but you are merely covering your ass (as most Republicans do in times of trouble) in hopes that you can counter the revolution, embrace the tide and continue to remain relevant.
You see the writing on the wall.... finally! But it's too late. Redemption comes to those who are unwittingly involved in criminal activities. Your complicity, time and words were given in an eager and all too willing blank check of smug satisfaction.
After reading your "Typewriter" op-ed, I can't help but notice that you live in some fantasy land of wishful thinking. You think about doing something that Hunter S. Thompson wrote about. As if, in doing so, you put yourself in his same rank in hopes of gaining that credibility most hacks like you crave.
You pull a quote from "To Kill a Mockingbird", to give you a timeless soundbite... again, trying to gain credibility from someone else's hard-thought writings.
Here's a quote from you, "The president’s action in the Libby case has made this living, working reality into a debased, sad fantasy."
Really? You think? You had an opportunity to turn your back on the Republican party when Ford pardoned Nixon.
Just like Bush and his cronies HOPED they would find WMDs, you HOPED the members of the Republican party wouldn't fuck America again.
You'll change your story again when the great White Hope emerges to represent the Republican party. You will go back to the teat that nurtured your allegiance. The teat that ran dry when it no longer tasted good to you.
You don't get a pass from me, Steve. Nor should anyone think that your sudden misgivings mean you are not still a Republican.
Better late than never, I guess?
To quote Bruce Willis in "Diehard" - WELCOME TO THE PARTY, PAL!
Every day and in every way ordinary people are waking up to the fact that they have awoken into a hellish nightmare where everything they thought and held dear about their government/nation was based on lies.
Not quickly enough though.
it kills me how long this writer stayed the course with the repugs. How hard is it to find the facts? Really? I mean I was able to follow from the start that the Iraq war was a war of choice based on lies, it was all out there for everyone to see, but for some reason a great deal of people never saw it. and say what you will about the media on this, it's truely the American people's responsibility to know what is going on, and only the most ignorant would believe what they hear either from the corporate media or any politician. It makes me very sad to think that my country is so completely backward, I mean this is AMERICA, we were once the greatest country in the world, not really a statement I'm comforatble with any more, we are not being the greatest country and the reason is not just 100% Bush Crime Family, we as a nation allow this to happen and there are some who actually do support it still.
American can be the greatest nation once again, but it will take all of us to get it there and I'm just not sure Americans have the fight in them anymore. And that makes me sadder still.
Get em Targa...work the body, work the body. Yeah. I've been a progressive since I could read the newspaper. Or, read between the newspaper's lines. No excuse for grown people to have no clue about this world. I'm glad you woke up brother, sorry it took so long, and hope you stay this way. Progressives have brought all of the positve change this country has ever experienced.
First we were asking for representation...the loyalists opposed.
Then we fought for freedom...and the tories dragged their feet.
Then we cried for Abolition...and the bigoted would have none of it.
Then we reached out for reconstruction...and the Repubs cried for the rape of the south.
Then the women needed their rights, to vote and own property...and the right disclaimed it
Then the civil rights issue...and the labor issues...by the way, enjoying your weekend, unions made 'em.
I finally asked my fundie friend. "What has the right achieved since then?"
The sheepish response was...'welfare reform.' That's it. That's all they could dream up as I listed the true accomplishments of the progressives. From Franklin and Paine, to Lincoln, who they R's killed, to the great suffergettes, union organizers and civil rights marchers and speakers. To Mario Savio crying out..."sometimes you've got to throw your bodies in the gears of the apparatus."
Being a progressive means living your life so as to never have to say you are sorry.
God Bless America and the beautiful children who have made her great.
The only hopeless robots that still believe this cascade of lies by GOP Inc. are the viewers of O'Reilly, Limbaugh and Fox News. May God have mercy on their souls. Impeachment for Bush and Cheney will be darn good for this soul.
I still can't get the images of Katrina out of my head and the sheer frustration and horror I felt on that day too. It will live inside of me just like 9/11 has. Even my father who has been a lifelong democrat, who served his country, and who was supporting Bush (didn't vote for him though) because of Iraq, screamed after Katrina happened that the Bush Admin were nothing but a bunch of hateful, incompetent, jerks. He turned his support of them around in an instant and I'm so happy he did. He sees nothing good or worth supporting with the crop of racist warmongering criminals at our helm.
This was a great article. It was well worth reading the entire piece.
Well, well, well. A ReichWing pus-bag has decided that maybe the 'Republican Party' wasn't such a good idea after all. If you hadn't lapped up all the racist, jingoist, nativist Kool-Aid the 'Conservatives' were selling maybe you would have been able to understand why 'George W. Bush is America's Greatest Conservative President.'
Or maybe not.
No matter, if you think we on the Progressive left are going to forgive and forget like we did for Nixon....like we did for Iran-Contra....think again asshole.
It's under the jail for anyone, anyone who broke the law, looked the other way or pocketed some of the trillions this criminal cabal of fascists was handing out during their brief moment of power.
Way under the jail.
I have little sympathy for the "come-latelies" streaming out from under the Big Tent of Rethuglicanism and whining for "understanding" and "forgiveness." Know why? Because they still don't get it. They still don't see what ELSE this hellish group of political hacks that they've supported have done.
In the "name" of Americanism, this bunch of yahoos has used torture and lies and corruption to blast our country's standing among others so low that no American can travel without wondering if somebody in another country isn't laughing at us as we go out about our business. Through the actions of this gang of ugly, pathetic thugs, our country may stand no better than the petty thieves who continually steal African nations from their people.
So, now we have a group of whiny-ass right-wing titty babies only now figuring out that the petted, foolish and idiot prince of the White House and his dark-lord overseer have gutted some of the most precious freedoms Americans had. Freedoms that they send other people's children to die for while their own children get drunk in the streets and tarry in South American countries with gigolos. Doesn't it strike any of our fair-weather former Rethugs a little STRANGE that nobody in government, nor the captains of industry who feed this government on a diet of bribes and corruption, have THEIR children in this war?
And, our "leaders" continue to gut this country of what made it stand out among tyranny and hatred. They've made serving the country a joke, even as they bray on about "supporting the troops" (all the while sending our sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, wives, husbands, friends off to fight without proper training, equipment, or backup).
Look, freedom in this country depends on everybody standing up to preserve it. Tottering out from under a tattered tent, still drunk with the trickle-down power of the criminals who rule the GOP, now these fair-weather Rethugs are wanting to help "fix" what their leaders broke. I say to all of you, get real. And start appreciating that a lot of us out here have been against this bunch of thugs and their war and their crimes since day 1 -- all through the days when you and your ilk (rethugs, young rethugs, yellow elephants, reich-wing Christianist carpetbaggers, sewage-filled mouthpieces of hatred in the media, and all the others who prey on this country without contributing to it) were calling US unpatriotic because we have been doing all along what you just now figured out how to do: question your "leaders" and stand up for what is right.
So, fuck your lazy, wrinkled ex-Rethug asses. Get to the back of the bus and let the adults continue what we started out to do: clean up this country and take it back from the criminals and thugs you people have enabled for far too long. Earn some respect from those of us whom you have disrespected for far too long and at your own risk. We have work to do and we don't need whiny-ass titty baby ex-thugs in our midst keeping us from getting it done.
"...a Republican administration showed itself to be either monumentally inept or cruelly, methodically callous."
They`ve been showing that they`re both,ever since Reagan,not to mention the Nixon cancer that commenter #9 so eloquently states.Bush is the worst ever.He is utterly without honor as are his henchmen/women.
"I supported the Iraq War in the beginning, but as its mismanagement grew, so did my disillusionment. Yet I remained a Republican.
Then the rains came. When the New Orleans levees gave way, so did my belief in the Republican Party. This was an American city, pulverized by nature - though with plenty of notice, unlike an earthquake - and although the local and state authorities (which were Democrats) reacted with monumental ineptitude, I had confidence that a Republican administration would get the situation under control and lead a swift rebuilding."
I'm sorry. I mean, I'm glad the person finally saw the light, but one has to be delusional (if not downright ignorant) to have any "confidence" that the republican party was going to handle New Orleans, the war, the environment, or really anything other than assuring kick-backs for big business with anything but lip service and indifference. I would ask the writer, and in fact any republican, to come up with a single positive accomplishment their party has achieved from Reagan to Bush senior to the most corrupt, Junior. I've asked this of several republicans, and they can't come up with anything besides glittering generalities and sound bites. Why would anyone have faith in this party to accomplish anything for the greater good? There's only one real reason. Maybe two: they have great public relations, and the dems are like a deer in the headlights of any republican accusation/slander/smear campaign.
If our numbers are expected to increase, where do you suppose they will come from?
The johnny-come-latelies is where. Why are you concerned with how he got here? Do we need to prove our bloodlines, so to speak, now, similar to the RINO label some moderate Republicans have been given?
I don't care where he came from or how long it took him. One more person against this corrupt, soulless administration is one more they don't have.
In one sense, it's nice to hear about another American coming to their senses. On the other hand, where has he been for the lat six years? Has he been paying attention?
Given the Republican Party's long record of indifference toward the poor (Medicare and Social Security exist due to the efforts of the Democratic Party, overcoming Republican resistance) and the non-white (the South went solidly right-wing Republican after the Civil Rights Act passed in 1964), why is the op-ed author not completely convinced that Bush Administration Republicans displayed at least cruelty in their handling of Katrina?
Also, knowing these characteristics of the Republican Party, charateristics which have dominated the party since the Reagan Era, why did the op-ed author join the Republican Party in the first place?
I feel like hurling but I haven't swallowed a typewriter.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-indep...
Turn, tide, TURN!
Here I am in Corvallis, Montana, the Bitterroot Valley. In my front yard I have the majestic Bitterroot Range. My back yard is the Sapphire Range. The 360 view I have is sheer beauty and sometimes it's hard to look out my window and see anything wrong with a country that is so geographically diverse and gorgeous.
And then I remember. I remember that people in Iraq, both Americans and Iraqis, are being killed EVERY DAY, by the hundreds, IN MY NAME. That innocent bystanders in Louisiana died because I live in a country that doesn't care. That people around me are dying slow, painful deaths because they can't afford healthcare. That for some reason my government feels it has unlimited rights and access to my vagina (which is just plain weird). That this beautiful landscape is fading away because we care more about our trophy cars and McMansions. It astounds me that there are still citizens of America who gleefully and dutifully sip their koolaid and keep the blinders firmly in place, goose-stepping along with a group of people intent on maintaining their lifestyle regardless of the consequences.
While it's good to see people snapping out of it a little, it's not enough. You have to be willing to walk the walk and stick up for the guy who DOESN'T have the company benefits. You have to get your hands dirty in order to protect the land. You have to remove the rose-colored glasses of promise that were standard issue when you became a republican and bring the zoom lens in tight. look left, right,up, down. See the people? See the country? They're DYING.
I feel frustrated. I think I'll go look out my window and keep telling myself that eventually, people will wake up fully and that everything will be alright. I just hope it's not too late.
We wonder why hardly anyone ever admits to making a mistake anymore? Some of it can be seen right here in the reaction to the individual who wrote this op-ed. Yes, he truly still hasn't gotten it but it is a first step for him to open his mind to another way, another point of view. Vilifying them because it took so long to come to their senses doesn't help others in making the same observations and admissions. Just like we're struggling with the small steps we're taking in uncovering truths that have been buried by years without executive oversight; so is it with the small steps these people are taking in walking away from probably what is a lifetime of republican brainwashing.
The only ones I will never forgive or give a break to are the republican politicians who are deserting Bush to save their political hides. While we appreciate your "assistance" in perhaps getting us out of Iraq if you do manage to get re-elected you'll slide right back over to business as usual.
We have a real opportunity to reach a lot of people we wouldn't have access to due to Bush's blunders. If he did anything at all at least it seems like Bush woke up a lot of our fellow citizens. I can only hope that this awakening will continue and America will begin the long hard road back to being what it should be.
The Democrats who we put in office are equally inept they repeatedly let this dumb asshole
sorry excuse of a president walk all over them. People are clamoring for impeachment. When will they start to move? When George FUCK YOU Bush allow all his minion to rule all branch in legal office. Who fights for liberty and Justice in America? Who are the true defenders of Freedom and Constitution? CERTAINLY NOT THE INEFFECTUAL DEMOCRAT.
Tom @ 39:
I would ask the writer, and in fact any republican, to come up with a single positive accomplishment their party has achieved from Reagan to Bush senior to the most corrupt, Junior. I've asked this of several republicans, and they can't come up with anything besides glittering generalities and sound bites. Why would anyone have faith in this party to accomplish anything for the greater good? There's only one real reason. Maybe two: they have great public relations, and the dems are like a deer in the headlights of any republican accusation/slander/smear campaign.
The economy, Tom. The Dow Jones is at a record high, and overall inflation is way down. Deficits continue to grind lower than expected due to greater tax receipts. More than 5.5 million new jobs created over the past three years.
No doubt if Clinton were president today, the media and folks here would be hailing it as his crowning achievement.
My road to Independent was paved through the crony/corporatist DLC.
dennis @ 48:
The economy, Tom. The Dow Jones is at a record high, and overall inflation is way down. Deficits continue to grind lower than expected due to greater tax receipts. More than 5.5 million new jobs created over the past three years.
No doubt if Clinton were president today, the media and folks here would be hailing it as his crowning achievement.
Put the Kool-Aid down and back away from the keyboard. The economy sucks but then being a 'conservative' you are, no doubt, mathematically challenged. 5.5 million jobs created in three years! Wow! Google how many jobs were created under Clinton and then realize that most of them were not flippin' burgers nor 'Sales Associate' at a big-box store. The Dow Jones has nothing to do with the average citizen. If you want to know how the economy does under ReThug scum read this post.
Unitl then I suggest you SYFPH so folks won't realize how dumb your are.
5.5 millions new jobs? I guess you can thank our society's lust for fast food for that.
"Unitl then I suggest you SYFPH so folks won’t realize how dumb your are." --A. citizen
Yep.
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It might look like "too little, too late" for some, but admitting oneself was wrong is a rare commodity these days. The two kinds of people who change their mind that I don't have respect for are those who just follow the majority because they can't think for themselves, and those who do it to stay popular, yet their personal ethics are as rotten as ever.
Either way, I didn’t want anything more to do with the Republicans. So I declared myself an Independent and have been so since.
That way, this writer can vote for the next GOP candidate with a clear conscience because I'm not a Republican anymore, see?. This writer is about as independent as Joe Lieberman. No possibility that he might back a Democratic candidate. No sir! In this writer's mind, the Democrats are incompetent, but he's ticked off that the GOP didn't step up and do the right thing. Sorry! I'm not buying the wingnuts "I'm so pissed off, I'm gonna become an independent so that I can continue to support GOP candidates without having to own up to that fact".
Because they're all so 'independent' now.
I'm all for bashing republicans, but I have to disagree with what the trashing of Louisiana's local government. I live in Louisiana and was part of the recovery effort.
The whole "inept" Louisiana government thing was a lie spread by the Bush administration to try and spread the blame away from them. We are definitely a state on the poverty line and most of our national guard was in Iraq, but most of the trouble came from the federal government not knowing what it should do and doing it too late when our local government had already enacted an emergency strategy. We couldn't wait, that's the bottom line and that's why all the shit went down.
If you were here during the whole thing you would realize that.
I could go on and explain it in detail, but I have done this about 1000 times since 2005 and am a bit tired of it.
To sum it up incompetence sunk New Orleans.
I hate getting into this Dem vs Rep crap but at least when Clinton was President he had a Rhodes Scholar who was overly qualified at the head of FEMA.
sorry for getting off subject
Missouri, like Virginia, is going to finally be a legitimate battleground state again IMO and both have a reasonable shot of flipping over to the Dems this time around and THAT would be the death knell for any republican candidate.
I've been a republican ever since St. Ronnie ran. I switched parties so I could vote against him. I liked writing in a candidate in 2K, "Anybody but Bush". This year should be fun also. I'll be wearing my sabots.
I live in Missouri and that little ol newpaper is in the heart of the most conservative and reactionary part of the show-me state. Catholic Bishops in both cities have actively made clear their Republican preferences. The number of mega-churches handing out voting guides is beyond belief. But, something has changed - something big and I can't define it except to say that this editorial echoes so many people I know. I've been a Democrat all my life and even though I have been a bit disgusted by the party at times, I've never seen the kind of self-deception that I see in current Republican circles. My ultra conservative physician friend - a good and decent man - recently asked me to send him material on Obama. Another friend - conservative to the core - now admits that he has been duped - big time - and declares himself an independent. Likes Obama because he is someone who brings people together. This couldn't be just my small circle of friends. It must be permeating the culture.
There are millionsof people out there that are just like this guy. So why are the Dems so fucking spineless that they don't impeach these criminals?
Pelosi is committing an historical blunder by taking impeachment off the table.
Come to think of it, its not only a blunder, but a crime itself!
Dereliction of duty & failure to defend & uphold the constitution against all enemies, foreign & domestic!!!
My only hope is that whoever wins the next Presidential election is held to a level of scrutiny that makes what is going on now look like nothing...even if that President is a Democrat!
The statement that the Republicans should be afraid is only half of the issue. You forgot the Democrats.
I'm not switching sides, but frankly the feet-dragging in Congress == enabling and it's causing increasing pissedoffness.
Note that the author of the editorial didn't say, "I'm switching to the Democratic party".
I'd put money on writers like the one quoted switching sides if the current Democrats in power had some balls, and used them. Both could well stand to be the losers. One party screwed up the nation. The other twiddled their thumbs.
For one, the author must not have been an evangelical Christian. Evangelical Christians support for Bush is now ever more stronger than ever was. Liberal media knows no bounds in slandering and victimizing evangelical Christians like Bush and Libby and spreading negative media about the Iraq war and Katrina. And I see, that this reporter's faith is not strong enough.
I blame the liberal media for clouding his point of view on Katrina, the wars, and everything.
bill w Says: Impeachment is worthless. As long as these guys are alive they will work to destroy the US. They have destrroyed the country I respected for the last 65 years of my life. I’m sorrry I have children to whom I am leaving this mess. To them, I’M SORRY. I wish I had some control but unforunately, I didn’t.
I say lock the whole lot of the m'fckers up as traitors and NEVER let them out. That's it; that's all! No trial... they've locked up others for years and thrown away anyone's right to habeus corpus. They can be treated by the very rules they put in place. Once every one of the traitors (includs Kagan and that asshole Kristol) is locked up, then set about reestablishing equality and democracay for starters.
When I was watching C-SPAN after Katrina, an elderly woman called into one of the discussion shows. She said:
She pretty much said it all. It's like if the hijackers had hit New Orleans on 9/11, it also would have gone unnoticed. I believe that the money isn't flowing because Bush is only giving it out to companies that are in bed with the Republicans.
Joseph Lieberman, who pledged to investigate the Department of Homeland Security if re-elected, has now dropped the DHS/FEMA investigations. It shows that corrupt politicians in either party (or an Independent) cause our country harm. Unfortunately, without an investigation, the lessons that would prevent this from happening to another American city have not been learned.
I wouldn't be surprised if more and more this is how many "average Americans" feel. We hear the noise machine on TV. Katrina was a watershed, and the Republican-led governement blew it!!! The war in Iraq has been nothing but bad news since then. And these guys are always appearing in court, or being charged with something. Think there might be something rotten in Washington???
Just What I Think @ 27:
The Repuglicans have done nothing but increase the size and expense of government. Look at Department of Homeland Security, FEMA changes, WHIG (Cheney's separate Intelligence Agency), new roles in all agencies to circumvent environmental regulations and Justice Dept. layers, a separate military under Blackhawk and Halliburton contracts, wasteful Iraq contracts for failed armor, vehicles that blow up, a billion dollar embassy in Iraq, 2 and a half day work week for congress (under Repugs). I could go on endlessly about our failed Congress and distended budget under the failed Rethuglicans.
It's In The Air
I swear this feeling of outrage and contempt is in the air. We have all had enough, and, although it has not been said enough, want something done about it. Right before our eyes, we have witness lies upon lies, illegal acts upon illegal act, be redirected to third party arguments to be debated as an educational exercise. The shit president, and I hate to call him president, Bush is doing is illegal and should not be treated as a debate.
Debate is a American tradition and a practice we use to rationalize our policies and fundings for our nation. It is not a get out of free "get out of jail card." During this administration, as far as I can remember, debate has been used to minimize Bush's questionable actions. This can be illustrated by the domestic surveillance practices of this administration. It appears to crate a false "your opinion against my opinion" argument among the people that contribute to apathy. Before you know it, you realize nothing has been done, and the ILLEGAL act of spying on Americans has been totally overlooked. This issue reduction practice is used when Bush is on the verge of being legally challenged.
Bush has flooded this country with issue after issue. Just when you understand one issue, another one is put into play. Diversion is another successful defense of this administration. The so-called British car bombings are a "diversion in process." The crime is being used to divert our attention away from our need for universal health care and replace with fear of terrorism. Have you scene the headlines and claims associated with these failed bombings? They are truly "propaganda in process."
Bush and his cronies, like all Americans, have to be made responsible for illegalities. There is no debating a conviction after the criminal has been sentenced and no get out of jail cards. As far as I am concerned, Patrick Fitzgerald should of restarted Libby's case and look into charges of continued conspiracies to mislead the American people by Bush's follow through actions of commuting Libby's jail sentence.
Joseph
For the first time in my life, I am more afraid of MY OWN GOVERNMENT, than anything else in this world thanks to Bush and his followers!
So Mr. Thomas has decided that, for the time being, he is no longer a Republican. Fine. He has that right. What I find most interesting is not the Republican posters reacting with rage and hatred to his disertion from the GOP, but the number of supposedly liberal posters who either blame him for ever being a Republican or criticize him for not sufficiently lashing out against the GOP. (Check the posts on the site which published Mr. Thomas' op ed.) For these posters, it's not about changing minds or winning votes, but just hating the opposition.
For a lot of liberal posters, the moral of the story appears to be: "How dare he ever have been a Republican in the first place and how dare he not become a Democrat now? In fact, how dare he not make some heartfelt public apology for ever having voted Republican at all?" This is the mentality that leads to dismissing Attorneys for not supporting your party sufficiently.
If your only comment is "Republican asswipes" or something similar, then you are no different from the Bush faithful. You are just the opposite side of the coin.
Very true, Bob Roberts.
i am a democrat and i wholly agree with this article and author. if the democrats don't get their act together and by sept 07, i am leaving the democratic party and become independent. the dems also have gotten too money hungry and indifferent to the majority voice of their party. they had better get some BALLS and address the criminals in the executive party NOW or many like myself will be following in the footsteps of the disenchanted to the independent parties of this country.
Great article. BushCo can be summed up thusly: criminal conspiracy, criminal incompetence and criminal negligence.
For instance, one of the criminally negligent acts by BushCo after Hurricane Katrina involved the over 800 million dollars offered by other countries to help Gulf Coast citizens adversely affected by Katrina. The last I heard, BushCo only accepted about 12 pecent of the relief funds offered, leaving 88 percent uncollected and unspent.
Why? What could possibly be the rationale for not accepting these funds and putting the money into a hurricane-recovery escrow account? Approximately 700 milliion dollars could have gone far in helping our fellow citizens along the Gulf Coast either relocate or rebuild.
I accuse BushCo, therefore, of criminal negligence. Comparable to the criminal negligence exhibited by BushCo in not planning for the aftermath of the Iraq invasion.
The initial shock at the outright criminality of the Bush administration has turned into numbness, but I will definitely make it into a voting booth in November 2008 to register my utter disgust with what certain Republicans as well as certain DINO Democrats have done to our democracy. Maybe, just maybe, the damage can be reversed so our children don't have to pay for the actions of the criminal enterprise called the Bush administratoin.
In otehr words, I don't believe we will able to "commute" the sentence the corrupt Bush administration has saddled future generations of American citizens with. We may be able to mitigate some of the damage done, but only if enough progressive Democrats are elected in November 2008 to replace all the conservative Republicans and equally-conservative DINO Democrats who've led our nation down this path of self-destruction.
With some people, it takes time for them to wake up. The more who wake up, the better.
At first I thought, good for him. He finally came to his senses and has a heart. Then I realized, this scumbag not only supported the war but only turned against it when it was mismanaged. What kind of shit is that? "I's all for killin' brown folk, ask long as it's dun real efficient like". Basically the torture, the death, destruction of families was too poorly executed for him. He claims to be against ineptitude, cruilty and neglect. Those are the three things chimpy has been famous for ever since he was a little coke snortin' gov'ner. This prick still voted for him. Probably twice.
I don't have room in my heart for these people who have "seen the light" and don't want to be on trial with the rest of the bush crime family. As far as I'm concerned, they had their chance. Only now that the damage is done and the jackals have picked the carcass clean, do these people come out. FUCK EM. FUCK EM ALL.
THE WAY IT IS: Typewriters hurled over Scooter Libby fiasco
By Steve Thomas
Saturday, July 7, 2007 12:24 AM CDT
A little background here might help... I grew up in a fairly political family. My father was a solid Democrat. In what can only be seen as an odd way of rebelling, I became a Republican.
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screech Says: Why did it take that person so long to see reality? Even before Katrina, it was so freakin’ obvious.
So true. And these people think of themselves as serious and smart individuals. The country is loaded with tools and fools.
[...] at Crooks & Liars sniffed out one of the best letters to the editor I’ve ever read. And my hope is that many of the former Republican Party, the one that was [...]
Ok, I'm a few days late, but I have to say, being from MO where the VAST majority of the people are head-up-the-ass Republican (especially in hickville Lake of the Ozarks), I have to commend Steve for seeing the light and admitting it. I come from a family of Missouri Republicans who have been harping on me for the past twenty years about being a liberal (and that is always said as an insult) and although I KNOW they are seeing the writing on the wall every day, won't admit they're wrong. My father and brothers will all be in the dwindling slice of Bush approval until their dying day to prove their loyalty, and although I won't see the day they admit they're wrong, their faces while watching the news don't lie.
It's really quite sad to see otherwise smart and loving people want to believe in a defunct crook factory like the current administration. Congrats Steve on seeing the light and following it.
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