Rove says Iraq won't be a big deal for '08 election
By John Amato Sunday Jul 08, 2007 5:16pm
Sunday's NBC Nightly News reported on the latest horrendous attacks in Iraq that has killed over 220 people in which Sunni and Shiite leaders are now telling civilians that they are on their own. Sorry BillO, this is news....
The Republicans that are breaking ranks are making some news lately, but are they willing to actually do something outside of blow smoke? Chris Todd says that they want to get out in front of the issue, but I'll believe that when I see it. Rove is trying to muddy the waters and soft peddle the public outrage over Iraq by saying he hopes the Iraq war won't be a big issue for the next election because he hopes the troops will be coming home. OK, and I have a bridge to sell you.
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TProgress: Rove appears only to be interested in creating the impression that the troops will be coming home by election day 2008 rather than actually instituting a real redeployment policy. As today’s New York Times reports:
Mr. Rove had warned that if Mr. Bush went too far in announcing a redeployment, the result could include a further cascade of defections — and the passage of legislation that would force a withdrawal by a specific date, a step Mr. Bush has always said he would oppose...read on
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Did he use "the math" to work that out?
uh oh....what plans has this fascist cabal got for the american public that they would be so willing to forget Iraq?.....
i think i am officially scared.
ROVE HE'S MY MAN
Rove is a liar. They'll make a promise leading up to the election regarding the troops that they don't plan to keep. Or business as usual and fudge the numbers.
BENITO @ 3:
Woot woot. Rove '08.
Didn't Karl realize the warranty on his crystal ball expired long ago. It's just as broken as this crappy administration. Goodnite Crackpots!
Why are we still paying attention to anything KKKarl says?
Like I said below, the politicians just want us back to our circuses and gasoline.
Save a cell for Karla Rove and his bunkmate Jeff Gannon.
What election?
Is it safe to assume that the Michael Moore interview is on its way?
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There are American troops deployed in a war? Where? When did that happen?
Wonder if Rove ever gets dizzy during these spinning fits? Give him another small animal and let him tear the lid off it.
The Republicans that are breaking ranks are making some news lately, but are they willing to actually do something outside of blow smoke?
No. They won't do anything. They don't want to be seen as agreeing with the Democrats. This is just posturing on their part.
Capt. Kangaroo, who are all your little laughing friends you brought with you? Have they been smoking something?
On second thought, this indicates just how desperate Rove is. If he can't right the boat (and he can't) and the repugs get slammed in 2008, even the most devout reich wingers won't be employing him again.
Repubs are trying to cover their asses with the voters they hope to keep next election. They'll say well we tried to bring the troops home but the president wouldn't allow it.
The Rethugs. are running like the scared rats they are.
Karl who? Is that nutjob still around?
Gen Patraeus is quoted today on the BBC website as saying "fighting the insurgency could take decades"!!
One of Australia's top men in government came right out and admitted that one of the main reasons they have troops in Iraq is to get the oil.
The unionized Iraqi oil workers went on strike - trying to save jobs and oil for their own country - OUR military was used to surround and confine them.
The Iraqi government will never "stand up" because to do so they have to hand over the oil concessions to U.S. business.
bush is stonewalling us and the Iraqi government is stonewalling bush & cheney.
Write, email, phone gov reps, newspapers, meida websites and let yourselves be heard!
Nah, he just means there's gonna have been at least one disaster between now and then that will be so HUGE that Iraq will not make the front pages any more.
California falling into the sea, for example. Or Bush selling Hawaii to Rev. Moon.
He is right,, our invasion of Iran will probably be the big topic.
People think Rove is a political genius. He is just willing to be more unethical than anyone else.
If you're willing to get very dirty you have a short-run advantage over someone with ethics.
In the long-run he's the derided cartoon character in the form of a rat.
I have always thought Bush and Cheney deserved jail but I understood how the Dems saw what happened to the GOP when they impeached Clinton. His popularity went up theirs went down. I now believe that if Bush/Cheney's excesses are allowed to go unpunished they will become accepted precedent, the next guy will push the bounds even further and we will be lost.
The ONLY thing that would make me "forget about Iraq" is if this nation somehow fell under martial law.
when did Rove ever tell the truth?
even as a kid he sat by himself in the corner of the playground pulling the wings off flies...
the repubs are going to focus on 3 things:
terrorism (muslims)
immingration (mexicans)
gays (males)
If 150,000 come home tomorrow, do we simply forgive, forget, and move on? Wrong Mr. Rove, wrong.
I am still pissed that more than one of my neighbors had to die for nothing.
I am sure a whole lot of men and women missing an arm, eye, leg, or even a single toe is still going to be pissed.
Do we simply forget about the $1,000,000,000,000 we put on the Government Visa card?
How about all of those folks all around the world who hate us now? Do we just ignore them?
The freedoms that were legislated away, do we get those back?
The money blown on reconstruction and contractors are we going to learn from these mistakes?
I can go on for a good while, I do not think anyone is going to forget this mess for sometime.
this was Soma for Rove's caveman base
The ‘big deal’ in 08 will be the debating that Americans are STILL tripping over the words to the national anthem.
NOTHING is a problem for Republicans in '08 if the elections are rigged.
redcat @ 25:
You are right. The Repugs have no accomplishments to point to during the campaigns... they & this admin have done NOTHING but damage to this country and others during the last six years. They have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO BRAG ABOUT! So again, we will have to listen to them smear all the other candidates and rage on about how unsafe we are!
The TWO big issues for 2008 will be Iraq and Immigration Reform - both spell DOOM for the Rove and the repugs.
Karl has his head up his ass.
Somewhat off topic, but sure hope that C&L is able to obtain the
video of Michael Moore tearing Wolfie Blitzer a new asshole on CNN
this evening. He(Moore) said exactly what oh soooooo many of us
have been thinking/saying for years.
Some shit never changes
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/White_House_defiant_despite_Iraq_de_0709200...
Iraq is SOOOOO pre/post 9/11 2005 thinking.
Karl is on to bigger things, like completely eliminating Taxes
if you make over a million a year...Calling it the trickle Up plan!
(Rush and Hannity will start selling it to the base early next
year....)
And his newest idea, retroactive 10 year presidential terms!
Bush till 2016? That should give enough time for Dick Cheney to pass
Bill Gates as the richest American, don't you think?
Remember when Rove said his math was THE math?
Sorry Patricia. My friends came to read C+L and are laughing at Carl Rove.
Rove’s translation= the war will be privatized by the time the election is held, there will be no “troops” in Iraq, they will be contractors by Blackwater, KB&R, and Halliburton, so to the American public the “war” will be inconsequential.
No reason to say you're sorry capt. I thought they were cute. On a pissy day like this, seeing a bunch of little laughing faces was welcome....at least to me.
pissed off patricia and chicagokid.. summed it up perfectly.
and let us not forget when this particular Crook and Liar first surfaced..
Watergate, and the Bushes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Rove
It tells us alot about the integrity of anyone
who would have this crook as a right hand advisor..
Speaking of...
Who and Why are there changes happening at the Nixon library
what do we have here... a coverup of the coverup of Watergate...?
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-watergate8jul08,0,1718990.story?...
And what do you know...
The first director of the Nixon Library... Non other than, Hugh Hewitt, American radio talk show host
The crooks unraveling puzzle was going to become too overwhelming..
They had to have a Bush in place in 2000 to REclassify all the previous presidential records.
But the people know.
Crooks and Liars... All of them...
See next thread.
This Rove is a real buffoon! The Iraq war is not an issue?! and will not be one in the Sept/08 elections? What the hell kinda meds is that weasel on?!
This schmoe Lester is the same wanker that gave us "Countdown to IRAQ" in 2002 with a big smile, like it was the most exciting action-adventure movie he ever saw.
Wasn't this dog turd on legs also in charge of reconstruction in New Orleans?
How's that going, Karl?
And of course, for Rove the war in Iraq is just a domestic political problem (or not).
...
Rove's record:
One million dead people.
Destruction of the Republican Party.
Wow. That's one hell of a murder-suicide.
Fuck rove and his bullshit. He too deserves "justice" at the end of a rope for his complicity in the cheney/bush administration.
Rove could still be working on various ways of removing Democrats from the voter rolls before 2008.
The REAL October surprise!
Sounds like a Jedi Mind Trick:
"Iraq won't be a big deal for the '08 election" (with a wave of the hand).
Average Joe @ 21:
Hahaha! Yep, there's plenty of time to do it. You got Holy Joe leading the cause from the Congress side.
But that's giving Rove too much credit. As we peel away the layers, we're finding that he's not the political genius he was cracked up to be. He's just a cowardly con man who hides behind Bush and Cheney. Stirfry's magical wok shows that he will burn in post-2008.
Yes, Jedi Mind-trick for sure. At least we have a Cheney/Rove '08 ticket to look forward to.
Better reign in Petraeus there Karl, he's hinting at decades. Pull a Sanchez/Casey/Shinseki on him.
I imagine his big hero party will have a new Pearl Harbor to run on, as the sheeple make their docile way into the corner of the pen.
Unless...
The Republicans that are breaking ranks are making some news lately
Americablog has a good analysis of the current bipartisan "out of Iraq" bill. Short version: nothing changes.
http://www.americablog.com/2007/07/gopdem-coalition-of-senators-to-offer...
Karl Rove can lick my bowling BALLS!!!!
What a low life pussy, never serve but enjoys seeing others fight.
Just saying the troops will be out of there ain't gonna cut it. If they're still on the ground in Iraq on Election Day, the Repukes are screwed. My advice to GOP candidates: Charter some jets and get your picture taken personally escorting our troops out by the planeload. Anything short of that and, in the eyes of voters, you're just another dumb Republican f#ck who led the charge into a pool of sh!t. Good luck scraping the stink off that legacy.
Yea, just as it wasn't an issue in the 2004 election, the "genius" was right about that one too!
Karl, you fat boy, you were marginalized by last year's elections, so whatever you have to say now means pretty much nothing. Do that 'math'. You undeclared poof, you are nothing if not nothing. Did I say nothing? Oh right, nothing. I like the sound of that: 'nothing'. Nothing.
Major Brigadier General Rove has spoken. Allow him off the stage so he can go back to strategerizing the battles against the evildoers, so he can bring our troops home and all.
i would like to introduce bush/cheney/rove/rice to one of those sticks they use on the inmates at gitmo, since they are sticking it to all of us. and yes the pun was intended. lol lol lol
so now rove has given the official marching orders:
You have my permission to differ from the shrub so that you can get re-elected and then, Back in lockstep!.
I said many times, but it bears repeating:
no repugs in 2008
no dlc in 2008
no dscc in 2008
no dccc in 2008
NewNameAcquired @ 29:
BINGO!!!
pissed off patricia @ 17:
BINGO!! and KKKarl is here to give official permission.... in code of course by pinning the not-gonna-happen withdrawal to the next election.
If the Democrats don't get smart about the elections and how the votes are counted, Rove just might be right regarding his statement that the Iraq War won't be an issue. This calculation will further solidify his argument if they once again can steal an election. Everything Rove says is calculated because he always has an alterior motive. He is not one to flat out say things without some type of sinister actions to put into play.
Aside from Rove's statements, notice how almost all the politicians say withdrawal the "combat" troops. Most of them aren't even contemplating all of the troops. The presdiential candidates need to be questioned hard on these little word games they are playing with regards to the troops, mercenaries, etc.
Rovebot man could care less about anything but his own private agenda of "winning the polls." What a grade-a a-hole.
The only way it won't matter if they can reroute all the voting machines totals to the RNC servers like they did in Ohio.
That's why these people must be taken out before 2008 elections or we may have another election the GOP attempt to illegally steal.
Dear Crooks and Liars
Hello greetings from the leatherslave basement in the West Wing. There will only be 25,000 US troops left in Iraq in 8 months. They will be located in desert bases. The American public will be told they are safe and out of combat. Mexicans will be the new Muslims.
Bad luck Bitches.
Karl Rove
Hey Karl....
You & Jeff Gannon built your own love nest in the White House??? I guess that's easier for you then sneaking out through the tunnels to the red light district in D.C....
'The Math'....translated...
For profit voting machines pre-hacked for cash
US 'attorneys' at beck & call of Republican whims...set to look other way at voter fraud perpetrated on public
Institution formerly known as US Department of Justice staffed with mindless puppets awaiting GOP command
That's why 08 has to have overwhelming election turnout....
If the GOPers "get out front" on Iraq then it is but yet another failure of the Dems. Perhaps that is what the Dems want, for the GOPers to lead them yet again. They just hate having to lead themselves. It's just so hard. It leads to Bill Orally and Rush Limbowel being so mean to them.
The GOP must NOT be allowed to "get out front" on Iraq. If they do, it IS a failure for the Dems. The DEMS need to be WAY out front on Iraq (and a host of other things) because they are, you know, the MAJORITY party that WE put there for the express purpose of GETTING OUT FRONT on shit!
ohhh the Jedi mindtrick - nice try krafty karl -
abortions, gay marriage, britney's rehab and some random kidnapping - that's whats a big deal in the US - oh and cars going around in circles on a track.
Who's going to care about Iraq, after we've nuked Iran and started WWIII?
Uhhhh, Karl, the Army did't meet their recruitment goal again. Think you could............, never mind, you probably have better things to do.
Is this like his prediction that the GOP (Grungy Old Perverts) would retain control of the House and Senate in the elections of 06? He sure got that one right. I wouldn't believe a thing this criminal, unAmerican has to say about anything. Until he puts on a uniform and goes to fight in Iraq, I will continue to think he is an IDIOT.
Pigshit said the same about keeping the House and Senate. You're career is done fat bastard and the Dems better get his ass up there to testify.
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