carllevin-copy.jpg And the vote just came in! (see below) I usually side with Sen. Levin on many issues, but watching this lovefest between him and Joe Lieberman is a sad, sad, sad display on his part. Lieberman throws Harry Reid and most of the Democratic Party under the bus every chance he gets and Levin sticks up for his colleagues by......planting a wet one on Holy Joe.

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No wonder Lieberman doesn't want to become a Republican. He's having too good a time fulfilling all his neocon fantasies at the expense of Harry Reid. Joe, Graham, McCain and Kyl are offering up an Iran Amendment which is paving the way for America to attack the Iran.

Update: I'm truly saddened by these cowards....Siun of FDL:

Levin and Salazar asked to be added as co-sponsors before the language was finalized, McCain used the bullshit Michael Gordon Hezbollah story to justify his vote, Graham waxed poetic comparing Iranian leadership to Hitler and Sen Durbin spoke of his support – as long as the amendment specified that it was not an authorization of military action. (Wow, what a relief! We all know that little details like congressional authorization matter so much to this White House).

Levin introduced the actual vote on the Lieberman Amendment by stressing that the Senate stands as one and that Iran had better listen. The final vote: 97 Ayes, 0 Nays

If you would like to thank the Senate for taking us one step closer to war on Iran - and in particular Senator Levin for his big smooch for Joe and Senator Reid for his “leadership,” here are the numbers:

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Holy Joe!

There's your New Way.

Did they swap tongues?

And us folk who say "Democrats=Republicans" are ridiculed on sites such as this one.

Maybe, just maybe, some of you are beginning to wake up.

There is no "two-party" system of government in America. The Elite has used the perception of there being one to their advantage for more than a hundred years. Did you really seriously think that last November changed anything? Or that 2008 will?

Perhaps I am a conspiracy theorist, but you can't call me an idiot.

Uhm, Republicans blocked the Time-Off Amendment. Clearlythe best way to support the troops is to make them stay in Iraq until they are killed or maimed.

What else do these two have in common? Israel perhaps?

Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 4:

And us folk who say "Democrats=Republicans" are ridiculed on sites such as this one...

Perhaps I am a conspiracy theorist, but you can't call me an idiot.

I hear ya, bro. You aren't the only one. And we aren't the only two.

The motivations of some of these people are really suspect.

Vomitous! There is a special place in Jahannum for you Joe. Any ridiculous military action against Iran will push me right over the edge.

Jesus, what next? Why was he kissing Joe's ass.

Windows media seems to load, but not play.

This is weird with Levin because he showered McCain with love this morning. I thought at the time maybe he was just being nice to McCain because his campaign had hit the wall but now I wonder why he is being so sweet to both Thing One and Thing Two?

I bet AIPAC is isn't behind this at all.

... Levin becomes an agent provocateur - Iran is on notice. The mosad must have wood ...

The strangest thing is that Levin has been calling for a withdrawal until very recently...
What changed?

Perhaps Lieberman has "Mad Cow" disease.

Why I'm an Independent voter and no longer a Democrat, part 8473847. I have good congresscritters but the party's leadership and fat old cats need a serious reality check.

Carl Levin gives Joe Lieberman a big fat kiss over Iran resolution

Can Levin give any other kind?

I watched this dreck on CSPAN2, My utterances consisted mostly of "Ohhhh God" and "Shut the fuck up!"
Such sophistry and jingoism...

Very disappointing and the only thing these two have in common is Israel.
I thought this is the USA

Term limits - NOW!

Levin wants our troops to withdraw to Iran.

That was a "butter up" not a "pucker up".

Listen again. Levin is trying to get his modifications in there.

miss_kitty @ 8:

Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 4:

And us folk who say "Democrats=Republicans" are ridiculed on sites such as this one...

Perhaps I am a conspiracy theorist, but you can't call me an idiot.

I hear ya, bro. You aren't the only one. And we aren't the only two.

Too bad you aren't the only two. Just because the Democrats are not doing everything you would like, does not make them the equivalent of the Republicans. If you really do not see any difference between the parties (on the environment, taxes, foreign policy, health care, education, Supreme Court nominees, etc.) then nothing I write will make any difference to you.

If, on the other hand, you are merely claiming that the two parties are identical as a talking point to justify a decision to vote for a third party candidate or to abstain from voting, just remember that you play directly into Rove/Cheney/Bush's hands that way.

Bob Roberts.

You're correct. Nothing you write will change my mind.

Keep playing the Elite's game by their rules, and see how far that gets you.

Meanwhile, just know that 50% or more of the American population DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT IS GOING ON, nor do they care.

nirak @ 19:

Very disappointing and the only thing these two have in common is Israel.
I thought this is the USA

C'mon everyone, all together now -- Israel controls the US Gov't -- you idiots.
[Deleted. Let's not lay this off on Judiaism. They have plenty of other traits in common-Sitemonitor].

They're also US Senators. They're also pretty useless.

As I have stated in a few other threads:

The Congress has become unresponsive to the Will of the People. When will We The People go to the streets? When will We The People throw down the glove and march, protest and strike?

It is called ethnic politics. Yes, there are strong supporter and enabler of neocons in Democratic Party.

The Congress has become plutocratic and has continued to support "their" autocratic leader!

"Language modification"

I don't get these two. We have more hispanics and blacks in America yet these guys get elected in. I guess some things will never change. What is it with the American government going after people of color.

I hope Michigan residents are paying attention.

Here's Senator Levin's phone number: (202) 224-6221. Let him know what you think.

For those of us CT Dems who volunteered for Ned Lamont last fall, this kind of stuff is exactly what we were afraid of. Don't let Levin descend into the Dark Side.

honesty @ 26:

As I have stated in a few other threads:

The Congress has become unresponsive to the Will of the People. When will We The People go to the streets? When will We The People throw down the glove and march, protest and strike?

After I finish my latte and pay for the detailing on my SUV. Ooo, but this chair they have in the waiting area is comfy! I feel like Rachael and Phoebe might show up any minute! Ah, look at the time. Got to get home for Deal...OR No Deal. Hmm, how's next month for a good old protestin'? Work for you? Text me, babe.

Love,
We The People

Dr. Acula @ 25:

nirak @ 19:

Very disappointing and the only thing these two have in common is Israel.
I thought this is the USA

C'mon everyone, all together now -- Israel controls the US Gov't -- you idiots.
[Deleted. Let's not lay this off on Judiaism. They have plenty of other traits in common-Sitemonitor]

They're also US Senators. They're also pretty useless.

You got that right!!!!

That's okay, Carl and Joe. It's only 113 degrees today in Baghdad. I'm sure our troops would like to stay over there as long as possible without a break to come home.

Must be beautiful, kinda like Rush's "Club Gitmo", right guys?

Thanks again for "supporting the troops"!

33 nirak Says:

I was NOT agreeing w/you about Israel.

honesty -

Americans don't protest. They may whine and complain, but they certainly won't do anything about it because they know better.

Nothing will change until the Elite is in position to guide the change in its desired direction.

Problem-Reaction-Solution.

It's worked for centuries, and there's no reason to believe it won't work now or in the future.

The Chicago Tribune is now reporting, on it's website, that the White House says that it has no credibel Intel to support claims of a Summer Terrorist Attack, despite the fact the head of homeland security told the Tribune that he had "a gut feeling" that there would be such attacks. Michael Chertoff should be fired for such reckless fear mongering, without a shred of truth to his statements. He makes Baghdad Bob sound responsible, by comparision.
Here is the link to the Chicago Tribune update.

http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2007/07/white_house...

It looks like this site will not allow a live link, but you can just enter the above address to read the article.

..

AS I've been saying, the people in control now are no better than the people who were in control before. Dems or Repugs. It's time to start fresh and get rid of all of them. TERM LIMITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I was looking at this amendment and was thinking that most of these statements they are using have already been disproven. As for Levin, just remember who his corporate bosses are and what their stake is in keeping wars going on forever.

Why would our troops want to come home anyway? It's a sunny 113 degrees in Baghdad and they're surrounded by the loving Iraqi people.

Thanks guys! You really know how to support our troops!

Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 35:

honesty -

Americans don't protest. They may whine and complain, but they certainly won't do anything about it because they know better.

Nothing will change until the Elite is in position to guide the change in its desired direction.

Problem-Reaction-Solution.

The populace has gotten fatter, dumber and more complacent each and every year. Buying a bigger house, a nicer car, more jewelry, watching all the "news" coverage about Anna Nicole, and Paris, etc. are WAY more important than realizing that criminals are running this country!

It's worked for centuries, and there's no reason to believe it won't work now or in the future.

The Ike Stike carrier group left its dock in Norfolk Virgina a few days ago. It takes about 20-21 days for them to get to the Persian Gulf. There are 2 carriers their already in the gulf and 2 more in the region.

I would be cautious of any event that happends prior to Gen Pretraeus's Sept report. It would seem all to convienent for something to happen that makes this administration look good.

40 Dr. Acula Says:

I don't know what happened to my comment, so here goes:

The American populace has gotten fatter, dumber and more complacent each and every year. They are clueless about most current events. It's MUCH more important to build a mcmansion, buy a fancier car, buy more jewelry and clothing, etc. rather than realize that this country is being run by criminals.

MMMmmm, Joementum.........

by the way, is that scent English Leather ??

Mr. Blade2 @ 41:

The Ike Stike carrier group left its dock in Norfolk Virgina a few days ago. It takes about 20-21 days for them to get to the Persian Gulf. There are 2 carriers their already in the gulf and 2 more in the region.

I would be cautious of any event that happends prior to Gen Pretraeus's Sept report. It would seem all to convienent for something to happen that makes this administration look good.

Gee, like a false flag fiasco?

I agree that the Stated Democratic Platform is a fine one. I find that aspects of the Stated Republican Platform is agreeable also.

But that's just the stuff printed on the brochure. that doesn't mean that a candidate in my district believes in it, or will vote according to those principles.

Blindly voting for party can leave you voting for a Leiberman style Democrat.

I don't buy the argument that I should vote for a candidate that opposes my principles, and votes against my community's interests, on the basis that he or she wears the right team colors.

Dr. Acula @ 25:

nirak @ 19:

Very disappointing and the only thing these two have in common is Israel.
I thought this is the USA

C'mon everyone, all together now -- Israel controls the US Gov't -- you idiots.
[Deleted. Let's not lay this off on Judiaism. They have plenty of other traits in common-Sitemonitor] They're also US Senators. They're also pretty useless.

But who does it benefit to go to war with Iran? Certainly not the American people.

Dr. Acula @ 35:

33 nirak Says:

I was NOT agreeing w/you about Israel.

The problem with people seeing some kind of Protocols of the Elders of Zion conspiracy is, by that reasoning if I'm a Texan I must vote Republican.

Bob Roberts @ 23:

Too bad you aren't the only two. Just because the Democrats are not doing everything you would like, does not make them the equivalent of the Republicans. If you really do not see any difference between the parties (on the environment, taxes, foreign policy, health care, education, Supreme Court nominees, etc.) then nothing I write will make any difference to you.

If, on the other hand, you are merely claiming that the two parties are identical as a talking point to justify a decision to vote for a third party candidate or to abstain from voting, just remember that you play directly into Rove/Cheney/Bush's hands that way.

Enjoy the Corporate KoolAid, Bob.

ysbaddaden @ 49:

Dr. Acula @ 35:

33 nirak Says:

I was NOT agreeing w/you about Israel.

The problem with people seeing some kind of Protocols of the Elders of Zion conspiracy is, by that reasoning if I'm a Texan I must vote Republican.

If you vote Republican because K-Street pays you to vote Republican, what are you?

bobby @ 48:

Dr. Acula @ 25:

nirak @ 19:

Very disappointing and the only thing these two have in common is Israel.
I thought this is the USA

C'mon everyone, all together now -- Israel controls the US Gov't -- you idiots.
[Deleted. Let's not lay this off on Judiaism. They have plenty of other traits in common-Sitemonitor] They're also US Senators. They're also pretty useless.

Haliburton is not American?
Oh that's right, they're Dubai?
A Valley Girl's lament, "Dubai or not Dubai, that is the question."
But who does it benefit to go to war with Iran? Certainly not the American people.

Weaseldog @ 51:

ysbaddaden @ 49:

Dr. Acula @ 35:

33 nirak Says:

I was NOT agreeing w/you about Israel.

The problem with people seeing some kind of Protocols of the Elders of Zion conspiracy is, by that reasoning if I'm a Texan I must vote Republican.

If you vote Republican because K-Street pays you to vote Republican, what are you?

KTEL?

Left over technology from Roswell alien crash being use to brainwash our leaders?
Invasion of the body snatcher?
Genetic modified produce taking over the body? Killer Tomatoes?

I really don't have any other explanation for the mind changes, we saw this with McCain very outspoken, then flip for his support for the war, and sounding incoherently afterward, Lieberman flip party, and now Carl Levin.

paranoia @ 54:

Left over technology from Roswell alien crash being use to brainwash our leaders?
Invasion of the body snatcher?
Genetic modified produce taking over the body? Killer Tomatoes?

I really don't have any other explanation for the mind changes, we saw this with McCain very outspoken, then flip for his support for the war, and sounding incoherently afterward, Lieberman flip party, and now Carl Levin.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I go with killer tomatoes.

I can hear the Elvira commentary now.

paranoia @ 54:

Left over technology from Roswell alien crash being use to brainwash our leaders?
Invasion of the body snatcher?
Genetic modified produce taking over the body? Killer Tomatoes?

I really don't have any other explanation for the mind changes, we saw this with McCain very outspoken, then flip for his support for the war, and sounding incoherently afterward, Lieberman flip party, and now Carl Levin.

Don't forget also that the illegal wiretapping probably ensnares Congress, the Senate, the Supreme Court, and judges on the lower courts.

If you had recordings of all of these people's conversations, you could probably go far.

Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 24:

Bob Roberts.

You're correct. Nothing you write will change my mind.

Keep playing the Elite's game by their rules, and see how far that gets you.

Meanwhile, just know that 50% or more of the American population DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT IS GOING ON, nor do they care.

Here's a clue; they tried to kill that lil fuker Ross Perot. If he hadn't been Mr. Moneybags with armed security, he'd be dead right now. I guess some just can't see the forrest .... uh, period.

miss_kitty @ 50:

Enjoy the Corporate KoolAid, Bob.

I'm bowled over by the power of your argument....

From your posts, you're either a Republican trying to undermine opposition to the GOP or you're irrelevant. Unless, of course, you have a viable plan to effect change. If so, feel free to share it.

How about taking a minute to make a call and voice your displeasure to Levin or Libermann....and while you are at it how about a call to Senator Webb who is climbing that muddy hill all alone. Let him know we are watching.

Must be very lonely swimming in that cesspool of politicians.

What are these guys on,ecstasy? Unbelievable how anyone in the democratic party could have kind words for an asshole like Leiberman. I used to have some respect for Levin,but he's just another kiss-ass member of a very disappointing democratic party.

Orwell’s Illegitimate Son>
Dr. Acula Says>

I know there is apathy and that the 7 virtues must surface through the sloth and pride. 6.5 years darn late is way late but it is better late than never! The main purpose of posting is to attempt to generate some movement! I read about a good idea that should work. A national stay at home strike when those participating stay home and do no business. This would save energy, be safe and be easy to do. Protesters must take time off from work when they protest and then spend money on transportation, parking, food, etc. With this idea we spread word online and set up day and then stay home!

miss_kitty @ 50:

Bob Roberts @ 23:

Too bad you aren't the only two. Just because the Democrats are not doing everything you would like, does not make them the equivalent of the Republicans. If you really do not see any difference between the parties (on the environment, taxes, foreign policy, health care, education, Supreme Court nominees, etc.) then nothing I write will make any difference to you.

If, on the other hand, you are merely claiming that the two parties are identical as a talking point to justify a decision to vote for a third party candidate or to abstain from voting, just remember that you play directly into Rove/Cheney/Bush's hands that way.

Enjoy the Corporate KoolAid, Bob.

Well, there's a fundamental difference between the two groups. The question really is about corruption. Once they get corrupted, they're virtually indistinguishable. That's why there's a big difference between a guy like Jim Webb and Harry Reid.

marbotty @ 64:

miss_kitty @ 50:

Bob Roberts @ 23:

Too bad you aren't the only two. Just because the Democrats are not doing everything you would like, does not make them the equivalent of the Republicans. If you really do not see any difference between the parties (on the environment, taxes, foreign policy, health care, education, Supreme Court nominees, etc.) then nothing I write will make any difference to you.

If, on the other hand, you are merely claiming that the two parties are identical as a talking point to justify a decision to vote for a third party candidate or to abstain from voting, just remember that you play directly into Rove/Cheney/Bush's hands that way.

Enjoy the Corporate KoolAid, Bob.

Well, there's a fundamental difference between the two groups. The question really is about corruption. Once they get corrupted, they're virtually indistinguishable. That's why there's a big difference between a guy like Jim Webb and Harry Reid.

Actually, Reid's probably not corrupt, just a coward. I'm sure someone can provide a better example.

Bob Roberts @ 60:

miss_kitty @ 50:

Enjoy the Corporate KoolAid, Bob.

I'm bowled over by the power of your argument....

From your posts, you're either a Republican trying to undermine opposition to the GOP or you're irrelevant. Unless, of course, you have a viable plan to effect change. If so, feel free to share it.

Geez bob I am underwhelmed by your erroneous conclusions. Just because I object to something, doesn't mean I have the cure-all for chrissake.

You wouldn't read it anyway.

Again, Enjoy the koolaid. Be bowled over all over again.

:roll:

miss_kitty @ 66:

Bob Roberts @ 60:

miss_kitty @ 50:

Enjoy the Corporate KoolAid, Bob.

I'm bowled over by the power of your argument....

From your posts, you're either a Republican trying to undermine opposition to the GOP or you're irrelevant. Unless, of course, you have a viable plan to effect change. If so, feel free to share it.

Geez bob I am underwhelmed by your erroneous conclusions. Just because I object to something, doesn't mean I have the cure-all for chrissake.

You wouldn't read it anyway.

Again, Enjoy the koolaid. Be bowled over all over again.

:roll:

Okay, I'll feed the troll one more time.

So ... you think both parties are the same. You don't like the status quo but have no ideas to offer to promote any change. Anyone who disagrees with you must be drinking "koolaid".

It looks as though your only "plan" is to post one liners about people whose posts you disagree with.

Feel free to disprove my "erroneous conclusions" by offering something positive. Anything at all. It doen't have to be a "cure-all" but it would be nice if you had any suggestions to offer.

I don't think that a sit at home strike will have much traction, but at least other posters are offering suggestions to change what they don't like.

Bob bob bob. I am hardly a troll. I have posted here over a year and I have offered many ideas for solutions. I just don't feel like offer up anything to a relative n00b who calls me a 'troll' because he happens to not like my style.

Interested? Google my nick.

Interested? Google my nick

MEOWWWWWWWW!!!!

miss_kitty @ 68:

Bob bob bob. I am hardly a troll. I have posted here over a year and I have offered many ideas for solutions. I just don't feel like offer up anything to a relative n00b who calls me a 'troll' because he happens to not like my style.

Interested? Google my nick.

Why you dirty girl you.

You just "don't feel like" offering anything positive? That's certainly one possibility. There are several others....

BTW, what does the frequency of my posts have to do with anything?

I think you have just coined a phrase, miss_kitty.

I live in Michigan and I sent Levin a little note about his performance today.

has the world suddenly gone fu...in nuts. you first have the ramblings of elmer fudd who has been preaching the same fanatical diatribe for the past year, "we are winning in Iraq" and now he's talking again about supporting our troops and staying the course. if that's not bad enough, there is levin jumping on this asshole's band wagon and joining up. when lieberman finally flames out as he is in the process of doing right now, doesn't levin know that he will take his alliance with him.

this is the best intellect we can elect to our highest positions?????? i would sooner vote for the guy who delivers my pizza. stick with him levin, you two will go down together.

No solutions? there are half measures.

If you don't have a candidate you can vote for, then vote against the worst...

In my district we have the dishonorable Pete Sessions. I've never voted for him.

Bob Roberts @ 71:

You just "don't feel like" offering anything positive? That's certainly one possibility. There are several others....

BTW, what does the frequency of my posts have to do with anything?

So let me get this straight. I must post at Crooks and Liars in accordance with your parameters. Or I am a troll. Wow Bob. I don't see that rule in the commenting policy, or your name on the masthead.

Why do you feel it's up to you to tell me how to post?

The frequency=if I were a troll, I'dve been banned a year or so ago.

You can post any way you like. If you post one line dismissive comments like "Enjoy the Koolaid" just because someone disagrees with you, you should expect to get challenged. If your response to that challenge is more of the same, you should expect to get ignored (which, I admit, I should have done) or further challenged.

If you are content relegating yourself to sarcastic one liners, if that fits your self-image, who am I to disagree?

Finally, I asked why the frequency of MY posts was relevant to you. You seemed to be saying that you didn't feel like saying anything positive simply because I had not made enough posts.

So you give me stick for suggesting you "enjoy the Corporate Koolaid" but it's ok and not at all hypocritical of you to call me a troll and a republican, just because I disagree with you? Nice set you got there. They must clank when you walk around.

Hey with all this side bullshit you've been dishing out and previous posts of YOURS, I'm thinking your a professional DLC/DNC troll. No proof. Just a feeling...

Israel's self interest is apparently trumping the interest of the US once again for these two loyal AIPAC operatives. It really is sad.

Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 4:

And us folk who say "Democrats=Republicans" are ridiculed on sites such as this one.

Maybe, just maybe, some of you are beginning to wake up.

There is no "two-party" system of government in America. The Elite has used the perception of there being one to their advantage for more than a hundred years. Did you really seriously think that last November changed anything? Or that 2008 will?

Perhaps I am a conspiracy theorist, but you can't call me an idiot.

I'm with you 100%.

'Orwell...' and 'Miss Kitty', I'm with you.

The elite at the top of the power structure in the US are focused on maintaining, consolidating, and increasing their power. Just take a look at Bohemian Grove - party affiliation makes no difference there, and why are the Clintons such frequent guests at the Bush 41 compound?

I've come to the conclusion that ideology is nothing but a smokescreen to keep the sheeple distracted and divided. Realpolitik is about power, control, and money. When political events are viewed through that lens, things become much more clear.

Hey "Bob", Pretty sure "Miss Kitty" ain't no troll...She's slapped me down a couple of times....and I've loved every minute of it.
Funny, I haven't seen your name here before. R U A Troll? Heal thy self.

Both Levin and Lieberman want to invade Iran because, as AIPAC beneficiaries, they support Israel's interests over America's. The US troops are merely cannon fodder to them.

The fact that both are Jewish is irrelevant. Sen. Feingold is also Jewish, but his is one of the clearest voices against all of Bush's wars of belligerence, hubris, and aggression.

I just emailed a "screamer" to Boxer! Hope you all do the same to your senators.

Why would anybody believe one word out of Lieberman's mouth.

Bookmark this page, as a matter of record:
http://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm...

so we know who to say "thanks" to later this year when the first bombs fall on Iran.

Any way to find out /why/ Brownback, Vitter, and Johnson were 'Not Voting'? Too cowardly to put down a no, or just not bothering to show up?

Hey liarman, according to you, the Iranian government doesn't represent the majority of the people, but why should they listen to the people ? You certainly don't !

your government has been hijacked by Israel  you can call me antisemitic call me what you like the record speaks for itself

i was wondering if levin and liberdouch both attend the same temple services!

LIEberman and LIEvin must be using the outsourced CIA intelligence services.

miss_kitty @ 78:

So you give me stick for suggesting you "enjoy the Corporate Koolaid" but it's ok and not at all hypocritical of you to call me a troll and a republican, just because I disagree with you? Nice set you got there. They must clank when you walk around.

Thanks. They pretty much do.

This is about radical Zionists, masquerading as Patriotic American Congressmen, throwing American treasure, the lives of our soldiers and OUR national security under an Iraqi bus that has a bomb in it. This isn't about Judaism, it's about Radical Zionists foolishly believing that they can get us, America, to do the dirty work in the Middle East that they don't want to, and can't, do. But this Neo-Con-Job fantasy is only going to backfire on Israel and I don't think that they really thought this out before they started supporting these Neo-Con-Job Sociopaths.

This is obscene. Have these folks learned nothing?

Bob Roberts @ 90:

miss_kitty @ 78:

...Nice set you got there. They must clank when you walk around.

Thanks. They pretty much do.

:lol:

TB @ 91:

This is about radical Zionists, masquerading as Patriotic American Congressmen, throwing American treasure, the lives of our soldiers and OUR national security under an Iraqi bus that has a bomb in it. This isn't about Judaism, it's about Radical Zionists foolishly believing that they can get us, America, to do the dirty work in the Middle East that they don't want to, and can't, do. But this Neo-Con-Job fantasy is only going to backfire on Israel and I don't think that they really thought this out before they started supporting these Neo-Con-Job Sociopaths.

What is a "Radical Zionist"? Are they, by chance, anyone who supported the invasion of Iraq who also happens to be Jewish?

Waiting for general Petranus to dream up the Iran invasion aftermath delusion.. I'm tired of Israel too, I'm sorry but all I ever see is those people abusing Palestinians, leveling buildings, building walls between where people live and are supposed to work. I don't support Israel at all based firmly on humanitarian abuses.

America was built on deceit and will be destroyed by deceit.

The United States of America is destroyed as we know it.

Yup, the ruling class doesn't give a shit.
I sent a long email on impeachment to my Congress "Representative" Pete Stark a week ago urging impeachment of Gonzo & Cheney. His website said constituents would receive a reply. Haven't heard squat.
Maybe 'Merikuns watch all that dipsh*t Friends, Deal or No-- etc. rather than bother w/ politricks 'coz the system is so broken, and they're barely even pretending anymore

miss_kitty @ 8:

Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 4:

And us folk who say "Democrats=Republicans" are ridiculed on sites such as this one...

Perhaps I am a conspiracy theorist, but you can't call me an idiot.

I hear ya, bro. You aren't the only one. And we aren't the only two.

You got THAT right!! What all these scum have in common is their stock portfolios apparently - halliburton, boeing, exxon, etc...

Bob Roberts @ 94:

TB @ 91:

This is about radical Zionists, masquerading as Patriotic American Congressmen, throwing American treasure, the lives of our soldiers and OUR national security under an Iraqi bus that has a bomb in it. This isn't about Judaism, it's about Radical Zionists foolishly believing that they can get us, America, to do the dirty work in the Middle East that they don't want to, and can't, do. But this Neo-Con-Job fantasy is only going to backfire on Israel and I don't think that they really thought this out before they started supporting these Neo-Con-Job Sociopaths.

What is a "Radical Zionist"? Are they, by chance, anyone who supported the invasion of Iraq who also happens to be Jewish?

A "Radical Zionist" is a person who puts the survival and benefit of the State of Israel first above everything else. These maniacs support the Neo-Con-Jobs Fantasy of advancing the American Empire's hold on the natural enegy assets of the Middle-East for their own, Radical Zionist, motives of having America fight and weaken Israels enemies with the delusional hope that it will strengthen Israels position and security in the region. Why spend Israels treasure, lives and political capital when they can get these Neo-Con-Job suckers to do it for them. Evil knows no religion, but, will use anything to further its objectives.

Mr. Levin,

Grab your toes and pull on them with all of your might. If you hear a pop, and suddenly see light, smell fresh air, and hear the sounds of the outside world, then I commend and congratulate you. Now you will be able to learn what America thinks of your good buddy from Connecticut and his ideas.

Levin Sold his Soul to the Highest Bidder a long time ago. Most would not consider him a Progressive Democrat.

I wish I had invested in Carl Levin war portfolio. WATCH LEVIN STOCK SOAR! Unfortunately nothing will go to dead soldiers families.

Better get a Republican Party Application Kit to Senator Leving as well, seeing that he and Senator Lieberman are soulmates ......

NITA @ 7:

What else do these two have in common? Israel perhaps?

How did you know that? AIPAC's footprint in our congress is huge. Unfortunately you can't see it because it's often up our congressmen's a$$es to make sure they do Israel's bidding. I swear I hate that god awful country! (I know...delete :-( )

There are only 2 things that democrats AND repubicans both support whole more than anything else. The other one is to squash any viable third party.

About 1 in the am here in Washington State. Called Levin's office to thank him and keep giving the base reasons to replace the pandering ass holes in the DC good ole boys club.

Say what you want about folks who don't care but I sure the hell do and we are going to vote every one of these suck-ups out one day!

Connecticut please impeach,recall or do something about that war-pig Lieberman!!!!

I don't see it. Levin was laying on the pleasantries pretty thick, but that resolution meant next to nothing. So Levin (AND 96 OTHER SENATORS!) voted with Lieberman? No big deal. Levin votes mostly correct. And he's been out in front on many issues too. If you're looking for something he's done wrong, look at his opposition to meaningful CAFE standards.

Old Billy @ 108:

I don't see it. Levin was laying on the pleasantries pretty thick, but that resolution meant next to nothing. So Levin (AND 96 OTHER SENATORS!) voted with Lieberman? No big deal. Levin votes mostly correct. And he's been out in front on many issues too. If you're looking for something he's done wrong, look at his opposition to meaningful CAFE standards.

Keep telling yourself that. Bushco now has political cover to attack Iran thanks to our corporately owned senate. Not that any of this matters much since the US(of assholes)is pretty much the Titanic and this is all rearranging the deck chairs anyway.

Batocchio @ 92:

This is obscene. Have these folks learned nothing?

Right now Bush, Cheney and Rove are laughing their asses off at congress. As usual.

Harry Reid is as much of a crook as those Republicans because he refuses to give Joe Lieberman the boot? What it's gona take? Joe f------ him in the arse to prompt Reid to say "Hey, this doesn't feel right!"

Well, I just hope the WH doesn't decide to attack Iran... because Rusia and China won't be very happy about it (the rest of the world would be pissed off as well, but those 2 could retaliate).
I just readed in a newspaper (one of the most prestigious from Argentina), that the WH claims in a report that AL Qaeda has recovered strenght and now is as strong as it was in 2001... I just don't understand... what was the Iraq war for?

[...] Levin could not fall over himself fast enough to display his love of his big pal from CT. Watch here – but prepare yourself – it will test your gag reflex [...]

[...] Levin could not fall over himself fast enough to display his love of his big pal from CT. Watch here – but prepare yourself – it will test your gag reflex [...]

Da Spyda @ 45:

MMMmmm, Joementum.........

by the way, is that scent English Leather ??

I love the smell of English Leather. They make some of the best whips.

He’s having too good a time fulfilling all his neocon fantasies at the expense of Harry Reid

No, you idiots. He and everyone else in congress are doing this at the expense of the American People. Stop trying to make it all sound like a god damned sporting event.

They really should have gotten a room rather than do it right there, in full view of the camera, on the Senate floor!

I'm registered as Decline to State in California, and this is one of the major reasons for it.

When it comes to war and imperialism, yes, there is no difference between the Republicans and the Democrats, just some periodic differences in strategy and tactics.

Let's go to the videotape:

--authorization for the use of military force in Iraq? Both parties for it

--ongoing funding for the occupation in Iraq? Both parties for it

--covert operations in Lebanon, Gaza and Iran, resulting in an escalation of violence in all 3 countries? Both parties for it

--Israel's attacks upon civilians and civilian infrastructure in Lebanon last year in a bizarre attempt to defeat Hizbollah, with, of course, US supplied weapons? Both parties for it

--now, perpetual references to neoconservative propaganda to justify an attack upon Iran? Now, we know, both parties for it

--demonization of Hugo Chavez, and, back in April 2003, a willingness to accept the 2003 coup plotters as the new government? Both parties for it

--approval for a defense budget, and military bases in over 140 countries around the world, that constitutes about 45% of ALL global military defense expenditures? Both parties for it, with the presidential candidates all wanting to spend MORE

I could go on and on; I haven't even gotten into the area of bipartisan support for the imposition of global neoliberal economic policies, you know, the ones that force countries around the world to cut the budgets for all social services, while still encouraging them (what a surprise!) to purchase more weapons from US arms manufacturers.

Now, some of you believe that such policies and the havoc that they wreak on people all over the world is compensated by the need for people domestically to have marginally cleaner water, improved labor rights, better civil rights enforcement, a little more money for education and social services. So, we need to register and vote Democratic, anyway.

I don't, and please recognize the fact that these purported benefits for Americans upon the election of Democrats is being paid for by the victims of American foreign policy all over the world.

So how does one go about changing party affiliation? This is the final straw. I'm done with the Democratic (Republican Party II) Party.

Better yet, how does one go about leaving the country and becoming a citizen of a country like, say New Zealand?

Go ahead assholes, declare war on Iran.
That should just about finish the job for al qaeda.
If you fucked up Americans would shut up and quit spewing hate for a minute,
you might just hear the rest of the world, gasping in disgust at you.

Lieberman is a "republican wolf in democrat sheeps clothing", too coin a old phrase, he is hiding his true nature but it is exposed if you look carefully, he harps on attacking Iran, which will not benefit America, but will benefit Israel, at no cost too blood/treasure too Israel, but at high cost too American blood/treasure, one can scoff at the zionist conspiracy theory, but for a alleged democrat too not win a democratic nomination bid, but then go independent and win one needs too follow the money, one can bet his support came from "republicans, Jewish money", he might not be a official MOSSAD agent, but he is as close too one as I can imagine..., he has infiltrated the US government for a foreign power, but one will not likely be able too prove it, one can only hope his constituients will eventually see thru his mask of "American Patriot" and see his truy loyalty lays with his Jewish roots first, Israel second, and sadly America last if at all...., all the experts say too attack Iran is madness, foolishness, will hurt us and create world trumoil, but time will show that Lieberman is not putting his constituients first nor his country first but other loyalties....first and not inside this country but outside..., one can scoff at hints of him being a "MOSSAD infiltrator" but his actions speak loudest, and his actions are not American but foreign benefit....

The first portion leiberman's statement would apply to our gvt as well as Iran's.......doh!

"Go ahead assholes, declare war on Iran.
That should just about finish the job for al qaeda.
If you fucked up Americans would shut up and quit spewing hate for a minute,
you might just hear the rest of the world, gasping in disgust at you."

Dumbass! You spew your nonsense on a site full of people trying to change the way our country treats the rest of thw world? Go to a Con site and spout off about it, retard.

Where does Hillary Clinton stand on this? You think she supports Leiberman and Carl Levin?

These guys are making a financial killing on the Iraqi occupation and this talk of an Iran attack?

Hillary, Levin and Leiberman are making a killing on their oil stocks, the occupation and their drum beat on this Iran attack! So what if a few US soldiers have to die to keep their stock prices up.

ASK HILLARY WHERE DOES SHE STAND AND HER ANSWER WILL BLOW YOU AWAY!

First time on your site. Some interesting comments almost as good as firedoglake?

I especially like Richard Estes comment.

Every one is looking for a candidate that has integrity and will stand up to corporate power.
I know of only one. The trouble is he is short funny looking , is a poor speaker and a vegan. and of course he has no money or support. Check out what he did with a power company when he was a mayor and you will see a true American hero.

Check out Dennis Kucinich

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