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This powerful video made by firefighters and the IAFF is their effort to begin to educate the rest of America about the fallacy that both Giuliani and the media has created known as "America's Mayor." This is just the beginning....AFLCIO:

The Fire Fighters (IAFF) union is releasing a new video today, featuring New York firefighters and their families, that challenges Giuliani’s claims of leadership. His performance before, during and after the Sept. 11 attacks, they contend, is marked by serious failures—failures that cost lives.

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Ruthless People's picture

Frist fire!

honesty's picture

Oh well nothing matters now. The dollar fell and the EURO went up. Economic FREE FALL and DEPRESSION next stop!

Ruthless People's picture

Look out! Incoming Republican swiftboating of the firefighters!

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honesty @ 2:

Oh well nothing matters now. The dollar fell and the EURO went up. Economic FREE FALL and DEPRESSION next stop!

If its going to happen anyway let it happen on Bush's watch. If it happens one day after that SOB leaves office the Rethuglicans will claim its the market's reaction to a (hopefully) Democratic president and due to Bush's budget busting agenda.

jk's picture

Ruby Giuliani what a Bitch

bmw 528's picture

Let's see Rudy Mussolini put out this fire.

Earl Scheib's picture

Boom! That is one heck of a video.

pissed off patricia's picture

There was a guy on hardball representing the firefighters and he was pissing mad at Rudy. Chris tried to piss back at him but the guy stood his ground and looked like he could take out Chris with one swing of his fist if he needed to.

The guy doing this as is the one I saw on Hardball.

Blue Buddha's picture

honesty @ 2:

Oh well nothing matters now. The dollar fell and the EURO went up. Economic FREE FALL and DEPRESSION next stop!

And the Canadian dollar is coming very close to reaching parity* with the US dollar. This hasn't happened since 1976.

* Parity means one for one, or 1CAD = 1USD

How does that fu*k sleep at night? If I had done what he did, I would shoot myself.

baby jesus's picture

baby jesus is a member of the IAFF led by Harold Schaitberger
baby jesus knows Rudy is anti public service as is every Republican
while they falsely stand on the backs of public servants as their "platform"

ren's picture

So what happened to TDS? what did they shit-can your ability to post clips?

[They're on a two week hiatus-Sitemonitor]

Turk Meister's picture

The promotion of this 'urband legend' as America's mayor falls directly on the shoulders of David Letterman.

baby jesus, I would expect you to be in an organization as honored as this one. Since you have baby jesus super powers, how about making Rudy have burning hemorrhoids the rest of his life?

Greg's picture

Heehee....What's the old saying? What's good for the goose is good for the Republicans to shove up there ass.....or something like that.

CafeenMan's picture

Rudy should take all that money he's made giving talks as "America's Mayor" to various fire fighters associations. It's the least he can do.

Fred Dawes's picture

We all know about 9-11 or do we? Giuliani has Information he will never tell you about, this video is a good start, the system that this so called America's Mayor is working for is not happy with any kind of real truth about the fact's behind 9-11 but someday God Willing the truth will come out.

Y.'s picture

Hmmm. Character assassination. Not nice.

baby jesus's picture

baby jesus is constantly working on new punishments for bad humans,
floods, hurricanes, genocide, theocracy, rap music & microsoft products

Jerry's picture

This line from one of my favorite movies 'The Hunt for Red October' comes to mind:

"Mr. Ryan I am a politician. If I am not kissing the babies, I am stealing their lollipops."

Scratch most politicians and you will find a lying, thieving cheat every time.

Greg's picture

baby jesus @ 20:

baby jesus is constantly working on new punishments for bad humans,
floods, hurricanes, genocide, theocracy, rap music & microsoft products

Can Baby Jesus save Rudy now?

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Greg @ 22:

baby jesus @ 20:

baby jesus is constantly working on new punishments for bad humans,
floods, hurricanes, genocide, theocracy, rap music & microsoft products

Can Baby Jesus save Rudy now?

Don't forget Sony baby jesus.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sony_bullshit

baby jesus's picture

baby jesus asks why is Rudy supposedly pro Public Safety, but not pro public health?
baby jesus has always wondered why American humans deny the fact they all pay for socialized medicine but in a very inefficient method, that is Fire/EMS service
baby jesus heres the prayers for medical care right before the call to 911 for "free" medical treatment.

Matt G's picture

What a moron.

Loonie's picture

What a horrid, shitty little man Rudy is. Hey, maybe he could malign nurses and nuns next.

Captain Kangaroo's picture

This is the beginning of the end for Rudy. Well not the beginning, maybe the middle of the end. The beginning was when Rudy said he supported public financing of abortion and then his third wife and then his failure as mayor and then….

hareli's picture

WHAT A VIDEO!!! They buried him. The firefighters just buried Giuliani. Every union member who sees this around the country is going to agree with these guys.

God, if the firefighters can do this to Giuliani, I can only imagine what they would do about the whole 911 thing. I've read their firefighter magazines and the NYC Fire Chief had some pretty strong words to say about what went on that day, and they are livid about the three black boxes that were found but never reported, as well as the FBI threats against them if they talk about it. One article was about a firefighter in the hospital getting a visit from the Feds and threatening to pull the plug if he talked to reporters. So his wife did. :-)

I had no idea that they didn't have radios that day. They had between 52 and 29 minutes to get out and they never knew?!? How awful. I had no clue about this and I've kept up on all the 911 stuff.

Jack Damage's picture

Bout time the folks with the most direct knowledge of this fucker weighed in.... Don't look too pretty for our lady of the dragqueen mayors now....hahahahah Tough luck Rudy... You're a NY boy...Ya shoulda known all your shit would catch up to you dude...JD

WashStateBlue's picture

It is really amazing how many seemingly intelligent people buy this "Rudy, the 9/11 Hero" myth?

I have a bunch of ex Microsoft friends, who are wanting to be Republicans because of taxes on the rich, but really hate the RR thing big time.

They hate all the Republic candidates, except, they really DO buy this myth:

Rudy, he's really a social liberal, tough on crime, and lower taxes. Not like Hillary, who will socialize medicine and raise taxes on the rich!

I swear to you, these people are smart as all get out, educated, but they have swallowed that one hook, line and sinker!

goatsage's picture

Let's see, McCain's pulling a Katherine Harris and this video should seal up Guliani's coffin. That leaves us with Mitt, Fred, Tancredo, Huckabee, Paul and... Newt?

I dunno but I'm beginning to think even Kucinich could beat the Repug front runner in '08 (and I hope he does).

Captain Kangaroo's picture

Why would the Republicans put Rudy up there when they have Freddy Thompson?

Captain Kangaroo's picture

Or John McCain?

Captain Kangaroo's picture

Or Tommy Thomas Thompson?

Captain Kangaroo's picture

Or Mitt Romney?

Captain Kangaroo's picture

Hahahahahahahahahahhahahhahahhahahahhahahhaha

Captain Kangaroo's picture

Oh Fuck. It has to be the Newtster. Of Course!

Biggus Diggus's picture

Rudy doesn't have a hope. His life is too much of a mess and all he's got is "I was mayor on 9/11". The neocons have yet to play their hand. They will either drop Condoliar Riiight in, or they'll create something horrible and Dick Cheney will scare dumb people into voting for him. That's what he really wants.

Captain Kangaroo's picture

Now there is a family values candidate for the Republican party!

Brad's picture

My but the Republicans are showing their true colors. What a crappy panel of thugs they have running for president. I knew that Giuliani was despicable, but now I think he is scum. Maybe he should be the Repuglican front runner. Then, the Democratic candidate is a shoe-in!

Limp-Dick Blimpaugh's picture

Rudy should be hung for his utter incompetence in the death of so many firefighters without proper equipment that he didn't see fit to provide.

Captain Kangaroo's picture

Captain Kangaroo @ 39:

Now there is a family values candidate for the Republican party!

Newt Gingrich.

a guy's picture

Remember that on September 10,2001 Rudy Guiliani was just another failed, corrupt politician known mainly for his brazen adultery that would have made both Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich blush

honesty's picture

Blue Buddha Says:

The US dollar is now worth ONE CENT. The national debt is almost 9 TRILLION

WashStateBlue's picture

Captain Kangaroo @ 42:

Captain Kangaroo @ 39:

Now there is a family values candidate for the Republican party!

Newt Gingrich.

Gotta love Newt. He was banging his OWN hired help on the desk just minutes after railing about Monica and Bill.

Hell, it probably got him all hotted up! He's completely without a lick of ethics or morals, but pontificates like he's the Pope!

Gimme Newt, a completely Ammoral power grabbing thug! A Republic party guy all the way to the bone!

Null set's picture

Republicans have zero candidates.

Fabricated's picture

The Hardball interview with Schaitberger (Fire Fighter Union leader) was disgusting. Watch fucking Tweety play stupid.

hareli's picture

WashStateBlue @ 30:

Rudy, he's really a social liberal, tough on crime, and lower taxes. Not like Hillary, who will socialize medicine and raise taxes on the rich!

Tell your friends to read this http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17996.htm

They have to read the last paragraph.

WashStateBlue's picture

Null set @ 46:

Republicans have zero candidates.

And, the base is literally waiting either for Ronnie to rise from the grave or Jesus to fly down out of the clouds....

So, we'll nominate Hillary and THEY WILL WIN ANYWAY!

CDB's picture

Y. @ 19:

Hmmm. Character assassination. Not nice.

More like Character Illumination.

hayduke's picture

John Amato. THANK YOU at long last for finally posting something about WTC 7.

mark's picture

I know that being president weathers most people so they come out old and shriveled but maybe Bush was at ground zero long enough to catch something. Well maybe there is just less of a man to shrivel to start with.

HumboldtBlue's picture

I'm so fucking proud I'm still a member of the Union. Fuck Giuliani, fuck him until his cross-dressing ass is ridden out of town on a rail while his kids mock him mercilessly for being a douche.

shoobadoo's picture

One by one the Repub candidates are going down. Ron Paul is going up.

If he wins the nomination it would be a very close general election, unless Clinton gets the nom. Then it would be a landslide for Paul.

If Obama gets the nom, then it would be pretty tough for Paul to win, unless he chose his good buddy Kucinich as his running mate. Then what? Wow.

ticktock's picture

Thank you--- New York firefighters and the IAFF for bringing this message out...

Anastasia Beaverhausen's picture

Rudy is a despicable human being.

shoobadoo's picture

hayduke @ 51:

John Amato. THANK YOU at long last for finally posting something about WTC 7.

Did you say something about WTC7?

MeMyselfAndI's picture

Don't even think that a Dem win in the white house is a good thing. The repugs have patience, for 60 yrs they have worked night and day to undo the new deal, and they have pretty much achieved their goal.

In fact, I believe their plan is to lose in '08. Why? Very simple, they are leaving such a mess for the incoming administration, that they rather have a Dem associated with the backwash and then take back the government in '12.
Also, I believe that the Bushs see the GOP as their own little entitlement society, and they are not willing to let any of the 08 republican contenders get anywhere the white house. It is the property of a Bush, by birth right, an it only gets to be vacated for a few years so that a Democrat gets to fumigate and clean up the place... you know, the help has to maintain the place while they are on vacation.

Simple leach behavior, and the GOP is definitively a parasite: suck up your host (this country) up until is almost death, let it recover... and then get back at sucking it. If you kill the host you lose your nutrients, and if you let the host get too healthy it may have enough strength to kill the infection.

In fact, I am willing to bet the shitpile will be so high, that no Dem administration will be able to clean it up in just 4 years. By 2010, the GOP machinery will have made such a fuss about the horrible Dem administration, that by 2011 the republican front runner will be seen as a savior, and I am willing to bet that he will be another Bush. And since Americans have the historical memory of a fruit fly, he will win on landslide... w/o much people thinking about the fact that it was the previous Bush who created the pile of shit to begin with.

Case in point: look at the Nixon/Ford years, they left such a stink that Carter was left with the cleaning bill. The along comes Reagan as our savior... yet after the Reagan/Bush years the country was in such a shitty shape that by 1991 businesses had to beg people to buy ANYTHING. A lot of people remember workers wearing those big honking "Proudly made in America" stickers in 91/92 since the economy was in such a shitter, or the late 80s with the collapses of the stock exchange (88 esp). And yet, after 8 years of Clinton... Americans welcomed a nitwit Bush II that was even more incompetent than daddy (incompetent regarding public service, not their own enrichment/agenda for that the two assholes are quite well versed).

Anyhow, as long as Americans get to sign about they been the land of the brave and home of the free... they will continue to work 4 jobs just to make ends meet, give up their sons lives fighting on the arm pit of the world... all so that the rich leaches get to make even more money and they don't have to send their sons to do the dying. And the stupid jackasses at the bottom are not only happy to get screwed like that, but they are proud!!!! Yeeeehhhhaaaaaa.... morons!

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[deleted--lg, you should know better. We're not going to have this thread hijacked over WTC theories.]

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shoobadoo @ 54:

One by one the Repub candidates are going down. Ron Paul is going up.

If he wins the nomination it would be a very close general election, unless Clinton gets the nom. Then it would be a landslide for Paul.

If Obama gets the nom, then it would be pretty tough for Paul to win, unless he chose his good buddy Kucinich as his running mate. Then what? Wow.

I don't know what you are smoking, but the last thing that I would consider as a serious contender is a Libertarian. Jesus, people who have deal acknowledging the last 3000 to 4000 years of social evolution should just give up.

It is just a sad state of affairs for the GOP, when a libertarian loon looks like makes any sort of sense when compared to the other candidates. Well, when all you see is shit, the best part of the shit doesn't look that bad in comparison... it is only when you have an actual context that you realize that the best part of the shit is still... shit. Ron Paul has wet dreams in which the invisible hand somehow corrects every ailment in society... fucking idiots.

Any repub worth his or her salt would be an idiot to toss their hat in the ring for 08. With the track record bush is leaving behind, all repubs except the idiots wouldn't waste their time. Just look at their line up. Hell, three of them don't even believe in evolution. The rest are wanna-bees who will never be.

Rudy just happened to be the mayor of NY on 9-11. Since the prez of the united states was flying around all over the place pissing in his pants and shooter was in his undisclosed location, Rudy was the only one in view. So everyone associated him with being some sort of hero. Don't ask me why. He had done nothing before and hasn't done anything since, to make him a viable presidential candidate.

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Jerry @ 21:

This line from one of my favorite movies 'The Hunt for Red October' comes to mind:

"Mr. Ryan I am a politician. If I am not kissing the babies, I am stealing their lollipops."

Scratch most politicians and you will find a lying, thieving cheat every time.

And the fact that Fred Thompson co-starred in this movie is a delicious irony.

hayduke's picture

shoobadoo @ 57:

hayduke @ 51:

John Amato. THANK YOU at long last for finally posting something about WTC 7.

Did you say something about WTC7?

NO. The Firefighters did!

Batocchio's picture

This is the most clear, powerful and damning piece on these issues I've seen. Giuliani also repeatedly discouraged any investigation into why the communications broke down that day - because he was largely responsible.

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WashStateBlue Says:

It is really amazing how many seemingly intelligent people buy this “Rudy, the 9/11 Hero” myth?

I have a bunch of ex Microsoft friends, who are wanting to be Republicans because of taxes on the rich, but really hate the RR thing big time.

They hate all the Republic candidates, except, they really DO buy this myth:

Rudy, he’s really a social liberal, tough on crime, and lower taxes. Not like Hillary, who will socialize medicine and raise taxes on the rich!

I swear to you, these people are smart as all get out, educated, but they have swallowed that one hook, line and sinker!

I propose that they really are not that smart. Or educated. Or have a real morality shortfall. I would think you would want to seriously consider if you want "friends" like that.

Bic's picture

That's right. This is just the beginning. But it's the beginning of something a lot bigger than what some understand. The revolution is upon you. Soon you will not have to watch what you say and expect to be attacked for discussing certain uncomfortable facts.

lafin gas's picture

lafin gas @ 59:

[deleted--lg, you should know better. We're not going to have this thread hijacked over WTC theories.]

I was just asking Rudy a question!

right on!'s picture

Greg Says: Heehee….What’s the old saying? What’s good for the goose is good for the Republicans to shove up there ass…..or something like that.

It's exactly something like that... thanks!!! I love what you said!

Eyes Wide Open's picture

I don't care for Guliani, but I wouldn't trust a union firefighter with my life. Make no mistake these guys are out for themselves and no one else.

Remember it was the FDNY boys who, to protest the closing of unneeded firehouses, began intentionally driving slower to emergencies in order to give inflate response times and give the false impression that more firefighters were needed. Of course you never hear them mention that an average NY firefighter is only involved in firefighting related activities 5% of the time. Other than that they've got their lazy "I'm union" asses in a recliner!

FDNY has continuously used 911 to their advantage. They were selling T-shirts within weeks and doing everything in their power to give the impression that firefighters were the only ones who died in 911

And the IAFF. HA! When a recent article came out in either JAMA or NEJM showing that heart attacks were by far the leading cause of firefighter deaths, the IAFF's response wasn't to push for stricter health and fitness requirements, but to blame the heart attacks on a lack of equipment and not enough firefighters. HAHAHA. What a bunch of scumbags.

911_gal's picture

FDNY are the best and certainly the hereos of 911; however, one of the important facts in their video is inaccurate. They state that no police officer died in the North Tower on Sept 11th, but to my knowledge that is not true. A good friend died that day in the North Tower, Lt. Bob Cirri from the PAPD. In fact, several Port Authority POs died that day in the North Tower. On the other hand I know from being in NYC on 911 that there certainly was a radio communication problem and someone should be held accountable.

Jesse's picture

Just wait, if the cable news channels even report on this, they'll act like it's a "swift boating". Fair and balanced!

Afi K. James's picture

Bulliani can go to hell for all I Care, but sadly he will win in 2008 and so will the republicans, you see the two party system is so idiotic it's a shame.

a guy's picture

It's nice to see Guiliani get hosed.

thought's picture

Maybe we should feed this to Rudy's rivals? I see Tancredo or Hunter exploiting it. We need McCain to win!

SCHRODINGER'S CAT's picture

NYFD. Do not remain silent.

Otay's picture

What is it with Repubs and their promotion and worship of those who are incompetent? It's like they home in on the most knuckledragging member of the party and march off of a cliff with him.

In a decent world, Ghouliani would have been thrown out of office for his stupid decisions concerning the no-bid/no-test contract for the firefighters communication equipment , or would have been thrown out for putting headquarters inside the World Trade Center after the first set of bombings had occurred.

but instead, he has been promoted to "mayor of the world" status in the eyes of the Repubs.

[...] Barely a week goes by when one scandal or another surrounding him does not surface, but this one threatens the entire persona he has exploited so well for so long. The Fire Fighters (IAFF) union is releasing a new video [...]

OxyCon's picture

Great video! It really helps educate the country about who Rudy Giuliani is.
Now if only we could get the "Librul" media to play it 10 times a day the way PAX TV, Sinclair media and Fox did with their Swiftboat bullsh*t.

kbass's picture

Eyes Wide Open @ 69:

I don't care for Guliani, but I wouldn't trust a union firefighter with my life. Make no mistake these guys are out for themselves and no one else.

Remember it was the FDNY boys who, to protest the closing of unneeded firehouses, began intentionally driving slower to emergencies in order to give inflate response times and give the false impression that more firefighters were needed. Of course you never hear them mention that an average NY firefighter is only involved in firefighting related activities 5% of the time. Other than that they've got their lazy "I'm union" asses in a recliner!

FDNY has continuously used 911 to their advantage. They were selling T-shirts within weeks and doing everything in their power to give the impression that firefighters were the only ones who died in 911

And the IAFF. HA! When a recent article came out in either JAMA or NEJM showing that heart attacks were by far the leading cause of firefighter deaths, the IAFF's response wasn't to push for stricter health and fitness requirements, but to blame the heart attacks on a lack of equipment and not enough firefighters. HAHAHA. What a bunch of scumbags.

I would listen to this person. Also there is more the IAFF and FDNY is not telling you. This is 100% political.

no longer a proud american's picture

what can i say, from what i've seen this man has a real shot at becoming president. he has all the necessary credentials as illustrated by his predecessor: no leadership characteristics, no moral values, no inhibitions to do anything that will have press value, and no caring for any human life, save perhaps his own. these were america's firefighters and the stories portrayed were their stories in their words. as mayor, rudy G. is shameless. is america going to stand by and allow this charlatan to portray himself as the savior and hero of 911. watch the video again. bodies of america's fire department taken off to the dump to be buried under rubble because the gold had been found. oh yes, the survivors were pulled from the site and could not search for bodies any longer because good rudy feared for their safety. could anyone with a modicum of intellect or decency actually believe that. he's definitely in the bush camp.

Laurie's picture

If Rudy is the callous, heartless, calculating pig that this video clip says he is.........well then, he's the perfect choice for President. Look who we have now.

These types of communications are critical to the American people in taking back their country and government back from the jaws of destruction.

We must keep sharing information!!!!!!!!!

Thanks C & L.

[...] Firefighters Blast Giuliani (h/t C&L)There had been ripples of this being in the cards for Rudi once this campaign progressed. I posted [...]

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OxyCon @ 78:

Great video! It really helps educate the country about who Rudy Giuliani is.
Now if only we could get the "Librul" media to play it 10 times a day the way PAX TV, Sinclair media and Fox did with their Swiftboat bullsh*t.

Not going to happen. I'm sorry to have to say this but the "silent majority" as Reagan put it (a nice way of saying the ignorant majority) wants a hero. "I need a hero. I'm holding on for a hero to the end of the night. He's got to be strong and he's got to be fast and he's got to be larger than life".

The difference between Rudy Guiliani and Jessica Lynch is she had the decency to not allow herself to be propped up as a hero

"The American people are capable of determining their own heros...and don't need to be told elaborate lies". - Jessica Lynch

Wes's picture

NICE! tRudy911 is the worst of the terror whores, milking tragedy for his own political and financial gain. I will cheer more the day he quits than for any of the other GOP candidates. tRudy911 makes me sick.

jr's picture

great video. I'm glad they're standing up to the creepy terror profiteer

Tim in Japan's picture

We really need to stop the firefighters from making this video! Somebody get on the horn and tell them to stop!
America MUST NOT be allowed to see a video depicting Rudy911 as a loser and idiot.

59 million Americans consider being a loser and idiot to be "presidential."

This guys idiocy and callousness will just make that demographic more enthused to vote for this cross-dressing clown.

RL's picture

Baby Jesus will back me up on this. Many FF's will still vote Republican (hopefully not for Rudy) despite their (Republicans) record of constantly screwing the workers in this country.
I was a FF union president in California once, and it astounded me how FF's would vote to cut their own throats by voting Republican. (not all FF's of course.)
Hopefully this will hit home.

Straight Shooter's picture

Well, I sure learned a few things from watching this video. Who's the crony that got the radio bid?

As for Rudy using the deaths of September 11 to further his career (sickening, isn't it), it's no wonder his nickname is Ghoul-iani. All Repubs who exploit September 11, 2001, are cannibals and necrophiliacs. Hell is too good for them.

Idiotland's picture

WHAT A VIDEO!!! They buried him. The firefighters just buried Giuliani. Every union member who sees this around the country is going to agree with these guys.

Then they'll vote for the fascist anyway because "he's a guy you can have a beer with."

Adman's picture

Pretty powerful video.

Here's an idea:

Tell Mayor G that this video is going on wide circulation among his supporters, at home, at rallies. Get his comment about the IAFF piece, video his response, and then splice that video into the beginning of the IAFFA piece. Burn to CD, DVD, and put on video capable iPods, or other portable video devices. Take them to rallies and distribute them to the crowd. Stroll around and show people on the iPods, and PSPs, and let people make their own decisions or decide to ask certain questions based on the videos.

right wing hater's picture

Wow....who wants to vote for this guy?

Look into irreversible lobotomies...

rain's picture

"RUDY GIULIANI" - THE DEFINITION OF DISGRACE.

JohnnyThief's picture

Not to say I told you so, but I've been telling you so.

Site admins here have been deleting my comments citing conspiracy theories, but all the facts are there for the findings.

Ghouliani must be stopped.

IncPen's picture

This will be relavent until the next terror attack on the country- which will happen sooner rather than later.

Then the American people will elect conservatives- who will protect them- and reject liberalism and it's culture of defeat.

Keep talking, liberals. Keep talking.

Venus's picture

Mr. Giuliani has been courting firefighters outside New York as he campaigns across the country. He not only repeatedly cites the bravery displayed by firefighters on Sept. 11 but also often makes detours, not announced on his public schedule, for private visits with first responders.

The video cost about $70,000 to produce. The union said it had used money raised by its political action committee, not dues from members.

A Mr. Schaitberger said the union had been approached by an outside party, which he would not identify, offering to finance a larger media campaign on the union’s behalf against Mr. Giuliani. But, he said, there are no plans to accept the offer or for the union to run television advertisements of its own.

Some of the video’s assertions are at the very least subject to debate. There is no dispute, for instance, that there were communications failures on Sept. 11. But the video highlights the hand-held radios, whereas the central problem, most experts agree, was the failure of a device meant to boost the signal so that it could reach the high floors of the towers.

The video also implies that Mr. Giuliani was more concerned about securing some $200 million in gold stored in a basement vault at the World Trade Center than in recovering the remains of the dead, an accusation widely dismissed by people who closely monitored the cleanup.

NY Firefighters *hate* Rudy at Shad's picture

[...] link [...]

negativnein's picture

Tom Kennedy, a spokesman for the Federal Emergency Management Agency's (FEMA) "National Urban Search and Rescue Team" during an interview on national TV with CBS News anchor Dan Rather, Mr. Kennedy let slip a frightening truth: FEMA sent the Urban Search and Rescue Team to New York City the night before the attacks occurred! Mr. Kennedy tells Dan Rather, "We're currently one of the first teams that was deployed to support the City of New York in this disaster. We arrived on late Monday night (note: Monday is September 10) and went right into action on Tuesday morning"

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/fema.ram

Heckuva job Tommy !

Venus's picture

911_gal @ 70:

FDNY are the best and certainly the hereos of 911; however, one of the important facts in their video is inaccurate. They state that no police officer died in the North Tower on Sept 11th, but to my knowledge that is not true. A good friend died that day in the North Tower, Lt. Bob Cirri from the PAPD. In fact, several Port Authority POs died that day in the North Tower. On the other hand I know from being in NYC on 911 that there certainly was a radio communication problem and someone should be held accountable.

[...] Watch Video [...]

[...] NYC firefighters are going after Rudy. Rudy and his people are not happy about it. [...]

BronxGirl's picture

Y. @ 19:

Hmmm. Character assassination. Not nice.

You're not from around here, are you?

trixr4kids's picture

I don't know if any of you either watched or remember this show. But there was a reality show that finished up with a week or so of 9/11. It aired on Fox and was called Murder in Small Town X. The winner, Angel Juarbe Jr., a New York City firefighter, died in the collapse of the World Trade Center only a week after the final episode was broadcast.

Razz's picture

Vote Ron Paul. Save America :)

Mike's picture

You knuckleheads quit arguing Republicans vs. Democrats. They are all crooks except Ron Paul.

trannyLover's picture

I hope Miss Giuliannie's mangina will rot in HELL!

RH's picture

Giuliani is a chicken hawk, like his illustrious hero George W. Bush Jr, and Dick Cheney, both are the ultimate leaders of the Chicken Hawk Brigade, talk tough, strut like they have basket ball sized gonads, but push come too shove they have peanut sized gonads, the old drunk Georgie boy hid in air national guard, and everyone in my youth new that was where you went too avoid vietnman, old grouchy dead eye dick Cheney got 4 college deferremnts, and a 5th for his wife being pregnant..., how ironic though when many men I knew served with honor, died, and their pregnant wives bore their child with that child never seeing their dad...., but then they had no money connections, family connections, Giuliani has as much a chance of winning national election as a snow ball in hades, he is a scoudrel who hires scoundrels like his disgraced criminal police chief, cheats on wives at the drop of a hat, even his own kids do not like him, and that ought too tell most how sorry a individual he is..! One could debate a ex-wifes not liking you, but when your own kids detest you and change their name, you have sunk too slime ball status.., republicans are desperate, they have shot their wad with scoundrels, draft dodgers, drunks, etc, and the old saying the sun does not shine one dogs tail all the time and has too shine on mine sometime applies here, they have had their day in the sun and its someone elses time..

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critic's picture

First of all I think FDN should go to court and punish the administrators (including Giuliani)
Secondly FDN people who accepted the consignment of phones should also be responsible. I think even they should have tested the phones before 9/11 on different sites. They should not wait to test in a real life scenario.
And of course I think motorola(or the supplier) should also be held responsible if they knew the product is not good.
When you are supplying to a department whose help you(employees of Motorola including CEO) may also need, how can you supply shit to them. Its same as supplying dupped life saving drugs.

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KJ's picture

All the things mentioned above are true however what can one man(Giuliani) do on a day like that, also the video mentioned that he walked away from the site, isn't that human instinct to get away from danger. Yes the firefighters stayed, but they had the equipment and training to stay. I believe Amiericans have a tendency to blame someone if something goes totally wrong. Also finding the remains of the dead is crucial but when money and politics are on the opposing side, the latter will win. So please stop trying to find guilt within Giuliani.

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John's picture

Hmmm... A union badmouthing a Republican candidate in an election year. How very unusual.

NeonNinja's picture

Its amazing how much people miss. For example, KJ, the point wasn't exactly that he was walking away, but that he should have been in a centralized and protected command center in order to perform his duties as mayor. But he wasn't. Why? Because he ignored the advice NOT to place the command center in a vulnerable location, and since he ignored it, when the trade centers were hit, his command center was useless.

If people were criticizing his ability to react quickly in a day of desperation, I would be inclined to have sympathy. But the fact of the matter is that it was his preparation leading up to the events that caused the most despair... who had heard of no-bid contracts until government corruption became commonplace? Nobody. Perhaps all you so called "conservatives" should consider that "no-bid" means "no-capitalism," which, as I understand it, is what conservatism is all about. Hell, I'm more conservative than most "conservatives" these days. At least I believe in capitalism.

kbass's picture

Their hand held radios failed, because when the first tower fell the repeater used to boost their reception was on top of that building.

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Firefighters go after Rudy Giuliani with new video

[...]This powerful video made by firefighters and the IAFF is their effort to begin to educate the rest of America about the fallacy that both Giuliani and the media has created known as ?America?s Mayor.? This is just the beginning?.AFLCIO:[...]

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