Bush Iraq policy controlled by Bill Kristol: UPDATED with Video
By John Amato Saturday Jul 14, 2007 8:02pm
Bill O'Reilly loves to spread his propaganda on the FACTOR that says NBC and the Democratic Party takes its marching orders from the liberal blogoshere. What will he say to this?
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KATTY KAY, BBC: "Hawks have been calling the White House all week saying: 'We hope you're not going to wobble on Iraq.' And I understand they've been getting reassurance from the White House: 'No, the policy is not changing.' Bill Kristol wrote a very condemning article saying that the White House must not change policy, must stick with the surge. The White House called back, said: 'Why are you giving us such a hit; we're staying with the surge."
The Weekly Standard and the AEI control our foreign policy now....Since the WH complied, William the Bloody wrote a "Bush was Right" Op-ed in the Washington Post...








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it's all projection. The know where THEIR conspiracy comes from so they just assume liberals work the same way (or accuse us of working the same way)
Suit up Bill get your feet on the ground. I'm sure your enthusiasm will more than make up for your old age.
You could lie about your age-my dad and his step dad did-one was too young, the other too old.
No? Coward. Chickenshit. Murderer.
Wow, Bill Kristol's grandfather did not succeed in the eastern bloc, only to create havoc on the American soil.
Wake up, folks! Your president truly needs prayers, I mean prayers that knocks him out.
This guy can only see inside his own little box. If he thinks the only thing that is affecting Bush's popularity is Iraq he is completely out of his mind. Bill Kristol is a propagandist of the worst sort.
Uh...whaddya mean "now?"
Ron @ 4:
Hitler would have given him the medal of freedom.
snowfie @ 1:
How's that saying go again? Those who look under beds have probably spent some time there themselves.
LOL!!! this will go over well!! the neocons attacking thier home base and calling others names and pointing fingers.
Ahh the saying is correct,, evil ,,,,,eats ,,,,,,,,,,evil!!
Oh and both willy and billy suck, and do not deserve any airtime or TIME mag op-s either!!!
bill kristol needs the Edward II treatment.
"""""Saddam Hussein would be alive and in power and, I dare say, victorious, with the United States (and the United Nations) by now having backed off sanctions and the no-fly zone."""""
This is Bill Kristol. Im not sure what to say about this sentence as its likely the dumbest thing ive seen in several days. So, denied his war in Iraq, GWB would immediately have thrown a coming out party for Saddam? In what fluid does Kristol's brain float to be able to publish this nationally without dying of shame?
dadams @ 9:
Oooo. A red hot wire up the ol' subway? I wouldn't wish that one anyone.
So where's the news about the "other war", you know, the one in Afghanistan. The UK Guardian has a report that indicates that the "other war" is going very, very badly and that if Afghanistan falls to the Islamists, then Pakistan will also fall to the Islamists.
Interesting, we went into Iraq to keep us safe from the make believe WMDs of Saddam Hussein and Iran has become the "nuclear boogieman" when the real danger lies with the Islamists that may control Pakistan. Looks like the Islamists will get the bomb afterall.
Goes to show you, Republicans are weak on national security.
Here, read the article:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,2126817,00.html?gusrc=rss&...
Bush, Kristol, Cheney are nuts and traitors to this country!
Kristol has strapped the president with his reins. Kristol’s intimidation stems from Bushies relationship with the Saudis. By creating this mess Kristol and gang are safe from the islamic world or the boogyman. I mean Kristol’s expectations of a common enemy - the muslims is fulfilling. Annihilation of the muslims is Kristol's 21st century motto.
I am sympathetic to Israel’s cause, but to create chaos at the expense of America’s willingness to fight the battle, expending revenues, and the total demise of the republic is preposterous!
Kristol, take a hike!
The Weekly Standard and the AEI control our foreign policy now…
Well, PNAC certainly does. With brother Jebber, Cheney and Rumsfeld, Pearl, all the names are there. This crap about the naive Bush being led around by the experienced Cheney is a lot of hogwash. Bush embraced the PNAC agenda wholeheartedly. And that agenda was to convert the war on terror into a war against Iraq, due to a confluence of interests, oil interests and people who wanted to make the Middle East safe for Israel.
The worst consequences may yet to happen. By taking our eye off the Taliban and Al-quaeda in Afghanistan, we may have undermined Pakistan, a nation with the bomb and missiles to deliver it. At least, that's what the Brits are thinking.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,,2126816,00.html
Robert Fisk wrote a piece in the Independent yesterday in which he refers to an article on guerrilla warfare in the 1929 edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica. The article was written by none other than the illustrious T E Lawrence, you know, al-Aurens. Here's the link to Fisk's article:
http://news.independent.co.uk/fisk/article2768261.ece
And here's the link to Lawrence's article:
http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~eshaw/lawrence.htm
Considering the knowledge and experience Lawrence had of the region almost a hundred years ago, Kristol and his neocon pals are like children playing dress up, only more clueless, sinister, and dangerous.
Both articles are well worth reading, particularly the piece by Lawrence. Our so-called generals and AEI military experts (why do the Kagans come to mind?) should read this. They might learn something.
Yes, the surge and the war is working. We live in a better place. We're safer than we ever were since 9-11. al-qaeda doesn't exist and bin laden is dead. Kristol, Bush and the neocons were right all along.
Riiiiiiiiigggggghhhhht.
NoBuddy
Why is the British intelligence so much better than Bush's? Ugh, sorry. Stupid question.
This is great news from 'Bloody Billy' as we all know George W. Bush really is 'America's Greatest Conservative President' and I look forward to much more of Mr. Kristol's good work on letting the American People know....
...all about Mr. Bush and those who support him.
Billy's read too many Tom Clancy novels.
Bill Kristol really believes that he's a Philosopher-King straight out of Plato's "Republic", it's what drives everything he's done, and as such, as part of this self job requirement, he's got to tell a "Noble Lie" every now and then.
Like he did here today.
Not the first or last time he's gonna do that.
I would be interested to hear a cogent argument for why this country would not be better for having either a revolution or a civil war in order to return it to something akin to what our founding fathers gave us more that two hundred years ago.
I think this exchange speaks loudest about the Bush legacy. Division. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/07/15/video-tempers-flare-as-s_n_5630... Webb should have given Lindsey four knuckles between the eyes.
NoBuddy Why is the British intelligence so much better than Bush’s?
Well, I agree with the Brits. Between the two theaters, I would have "surged" in Afghanistan, if any. Besides, Maliki says that they're all set in Iraq, that we can leave. ;-) Of course, we can't leave, because the Iraqis haven't met their critical benchmark, the only one we care about, which is a political agreement to let American oil companies expropriate Iraq's oil. I think the Iraq parliament is going to take August off to think about it. Then, we'll have to stay after that "benchmark", because the Iraqi people won't accept that their government of "imported Iraqis" gave away the oil.
What will it take for Bush to be stopped! Dropping bombs on Iran? Martial LAW????
Too late, my friends. The world burns while Bush vacations.
"........expose myself to harmless ridicule, but................"
We, among the other 72% that even know who you are, can't wait for you to crash 'n burn.
That 2% of the 28% that gives a damn about Your opinion are the only ones that will be there for you.
They know who signs their multi million dollar paychecks.
There was an interesting interview today related to this story about Kristol & Co. (AUDIO) I think it's time for the Neocons to surrender.
Extreme Insanity doesn't belong to just the whitehouse. Faux and friends share a good share of it, including Kristol, Hume and all the rest.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-indep...
Shades of Richard Nixon on anyone, well choose Fred Thompson.... Can you image what Bush really says about Kristol. Incendiary I'll bet.
As Indiana Jones once said; "Try the local sewer."
Oh nice C & L: "The Weekly Standard and the AEI control our foreign policy now"
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I wouldn't say Kristol "controls" it. He's just a like-minded idiot who has a podium to speak directly to Bush's core constituency.
Bill Kristol proclaimed last Monday that the surge is working "better than expected." A chickenhawk himself who never served in the military, Kristol offered President Bush some martial advice in warding off his surge critics:
"When you find yourself in an ambush, attack into the ambush. Don't twist and turn in the kill zone, looking for a way to retreat. Especially when the ambush is not a powerful one, and the Democrats' position (to mix military metaphors) is way overextended."
For the details, see:
"Iraq Surge Wins Rave Reviews."
Very simple. This will continue until Americans develop the balls to call for US interests before Israel's. Probably wont happen. Most progressive sites can't stomach this idea, because they can't make the argument from a nationalistic point-of-view without succumbing to, or feel smarted by, the anti-semitism rants.
The fact is, as pre-eminent holocaust historian Yehuda Bauer pointed out, the Holocaust was significant because it called for the elimination of Jews wherever they were, just because they existed. As he noted, there was no nation at the time to complain about. He said, and properly so, had there been a nation with armies and real estate to bicker about, that would have been a different story. That would have been the story of ordinary war.
But that is the issue of Israel now. The Holocaust, the Jewishness of its citizenry should have nothing to do with it; particularly when this nation Israel is pulling us into WWIII, right-minded people need to speak up to the Eastern European emigres running Israel at the moment. AND STOP THIS.
The crawl on CNN said that Voinivich(sp) is telling bush he needs to find a way to support the troops or a lot of republicans are going to vote with the democrats
well said, hareli.
Kristol deserves to be put on trial for war crimes at least as much as the rest of them.
Not summarily served punishment. A full, fair trial with lots of witnesses and experts and nice firm prosecutorial pressure to fess up for a reduced sentence.
What does "private" site mean? Isn't this the internet and isnt this a polical forum?
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Kristol and the kool aiders only care about feeling young again by supporting an unwinnable war that their own relatives aren't fighting.
Kristol hates this country. He despises the common working folks. You can feel his utter disregard oozing from him. In my book that makes him a sociopath.
What miss kitty said.
"But that is the issue of Israel now. The Holocaust, the Jewishness of its citizenry should have nothing to do with it; particularly when this nation Israel is pulling us into WWIII, right-minded people need to speak up to the Eastern European emigres running Israel at the moment. AND STOP THIS."
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#14 EZ this is an expansion of what you are saying. This is an email I sent to one of the original founders of the PNAC Tom Donnelly and I tried to send it to Bill Kristol but had the wrong email address after he appeared on C-Span's Washington Journal:
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#43 -- beautiful!
BTW, if Americans Jews knew what Israelis thought of them, they'd take up arms in retaliation. When an Israeli Jew see an American Jew walk into his shop, or try to rent his apartment, the only thing an Israeli thinks is how much can we take off this jiffa.
hareli @ 49:
It's not surprising. I mean, that's how Israel treats the US Congress.
re: hareli @ 36
The sad part is that progressives haven't figured out that people like Dershowitz calling us anti-Semitic is illogical and dishonest. Simple as that. The Palestinians are a Semitic people. Calling me anti-Semitic is saying I am biased against both Jews and Palestinians. It's dishonest because it's used simply to stop any criticism of Israeli policy. The supporters of the ultra-right wing of the Israeli landscape have become used to any critic of Israel cringing at the thought of being labeled anti-Semitic. It's time that came to a screeching halt. The only acceptable response to such labeling is a real earful.
It's time the progressive blogs engaged in a REAL discussion about Middle East policy and the US/Israeli relationship. The time of pussy-footing around the issue is over.
Remember, before it was the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) it was called Haganah. Look it up.
SouthernDragon @ 51:
All middle Easterners, save Persians, are Semitic people. Like all people from the Far East are Asian.
I think what a lot of people don't realise (part of the 'intentionally ignorant') it that Jewish doesn't equal Israeli and vice versa. Israel doesn't represent all Jews and all Jews don't agree with the policies of Israel. It's quite a racist/religiously biased belief that all the people called 'Jewish' are the same, believe the same.
I know of no friends of I have that believe in Zion. In fact one of my best friends grandfather was famous for his anti Zionist stance, and his grandson lost a chairmanship overseeing his own father's legacy for the same. It caused quite a stir.
Bill Kristol thinks he's such a genius but, in fact, he's a puffed up scumbag.
miss_kitty @ 52:
SouthernDragon @ 51:
They're counting on it.
Dont have to look it up. I was born in Israel is you've followed my other comments. I am an American citizen now. American, not Israeli, courtesy of the insistence of my WWII Alsatian Jew mother (Dad's a Sabra) who was left for dead at age six (WWII) by the Zionists in France. So I'm kinda' unique voice here on this blog. :-) I'm Jewish, but my country is America not Israel. This is the land of milk and honey.
What a shocking revelation.
I'm not alone among American Jews. Read the second comment from Jacob on Rosner's blog on Ha'aretz today:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerBlog.jhtml?itemNo=881944&contra...
Many American Jews are big time pissed at what Aipac and people like Kristol are doing. But we're not getting the press. [Yeah, believe it because it's true: we control the press.] So average American citizens are thinking that all the "stupid Jews" are going along with this madness. Not true. There are many important voices speaking out" Seymour Hersh, Tony Judt, Tony Karon, etc. The Rabbis are using the temples to complain about John Hagee. Dershowitz is a scumbag. Wouldn't be surprised if his high-priced Cambridge house was subsidized.
I dont blame most of the comments I see on this site before they are exorcized by the sitemonitor. . . . because they're true, just excessive and, in context, far-reaching. I understand how this topic can turn into a bloodbath. But at some point, regular folk needs to say enough to all this war. Because, as I've written before, if we go to war, nuclear war will hit these shores. An American city will be decimated on pre-emptive provocation. It CANNOT HAPPEN. IT MUST NOT HAPPEN.
How nice of mr. Kristol to not leave a comment access. No need to leave an access to people that might actually want to debate him. Kinda' makes your arguement usless, doesn't it, mr. Kristol?
What a moron.
Look, I write on these blogs for one reason. I'm not a particularly astute political guy. I'm not. Everyone here has far more political moxy than I do.
I write because I have children. I dont want them bombed or interred or blown up. I add my political 'piece' because these siteowners are kind enough to allow me to contribute.
But I am now scared for my children:now I know how my mother felt during the '73 War. Except I dont want to leave this country. I love it here. Good or bad, it's mine.
If you want to know why the AEI, the Weekly Standard and other neocon propaganda organs continue to inject their toxins into the bloodstream of public discourse just track their money to the politically connected fascist foundations that fund them.
How Bill O'Reilly will report it?
That's simple: He won't. According to O'Reilly, he gives us news that is relevant to our lives. You know, body language segments, riveting Culture quizzes, Dennis Miller hit pieces, Gay Day at Padre games, bear attacks on America, etc?
Another boob, don't mind them folks, we have the power to change all of this bullshit! Let's change the entire tide in 2008! We'll prosecute the false democrats after the first 180 days or so!
NoBuddy @ 15:
It's not hogwash. Bush has a secret society/clique mentality. He thinks belonging to "the club" makes him a superior person. That just shows his weak ego, short-sightedness, immaturity and lack of independent thought. His actions are evil, but he's a profoundly stupid man. Anyone who belongs to a club just for the sake of prestige always needs someone to look up to. They don't have the ego strength to not belong to a powerful herd and be independent.
Other people are making Bush's decisions for him while making him think he's the decider. The other people are using him as a tool. They think they can make him the fall guy and get away with theirs if things go bad. If things don't go bad they get more theirs. It's win-win for them in their minds.
The best analogy I can come up with was when I was in the service and soldiers would come to me pretending like they had a mental illness so they could get kicked out because their commanders wouldn't let them out. They almost always had a mental illness but not what they wanted me to think it was.
That's Bush in a nutshell. He thinks he's clever with his nefarious agenda, but he's not. But he's still evil in ways he doesn't even understand.
I know that he wasn't actually elected so it's hard to say that ultimately there's something wrong with Americans for putting him in office because they actually didn't. But the vote was still close enough that they could cheat the rest of the way. It makes me sick that it even that close. There is something seriously wrong with our population. I wish I could figure that out. I guess it's a moot point though. Even if I could figure it out I'd just be more frustrated because there's not jack I can do about it.
Correction: 'CHICKENhawks have been calling The White House all week.'
I call him "William the Justifier", whatever W does, he'll explain to you why it's wonderful. "Billy, the water boy for Bush" works pretty good too. He is so smarmy I can't stand to look at him, let alone listen to his disgusting voice. His mind reeks!
hareli @ 54
My comment about Haganah wasn't directed at you. I could tell you knew what I was talking about. It was meant as a beginning point of enlightenment of the reality on the ground in the Middle East for the un-enlightened. Now, if we can just keep people talking about it.
Why is Kristol paid anything over minimum wage? And why does anyone listen to this clueless schmuck? Kristol, do us a favor and move to Israel. Go away!
maybe Kristol should write a paper about how the ROOT ISSUE of the Isra/Pal conflict is that ISRAEL VIOLATES INTERNATIONAL LAW (for 40 + years...) - Go away Kristol, Go far away...
In a not too distant past C&L used to delete/ban any criticism of Israel, aipac - zionists... I guess the truth is busting at the seams~! hard to hide the facts anymore, isnt it guys?
Just fuckin' lovely.
Zio-Sheep @ 69:
Suddenly, it seems, Israeli Zionists and their spokespersons here in America, are just about everywhere on the MSM. It just seems so obvious that Israel doesn't want the US to leave Iraq, ever, especially now that their attempt to "Democratize" , read, "Zionize", Iraq has backfired terribly. Kristol is a loyal Zionist. His allegiance is to Israel, not America. Bush is surrounded by this group of hawkish Zionists/Neo-Cons. Wolfowitz, Chertoff, Pearle, Libby. American policy is being dictated by Israel, let's face it and stop trying to kid ourselves or be afraid to admit it for fear of being labeled anti-semitic. Progressive Jews (I am 1/4 Jewish) need to speak out about this gang.
Progressive Texan -- You are a good man, a good patriot and a good Jew. Spread the word and wake the others up. You give me hope!
Mr. Kristol,
Other than spending time purveying the untruthful propaganda of the connection between Saddam and al-Qaeda, past or future....you must be smoking some damn good crack.
Nobody is buying your neocon bullshit anymore!
PS: You have so much blood on your hands, it's hard to imagine how you can live with yourself.
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[...] Bush Iraq policy controlled by Bill Kristol - KATTY KAY, BBC reports: “Hawks have been calling the White House all week saying: ‘We hope you’re not going to wobble on Iraq.’ And I understand they’ve been getting reassurance from the White House: ‘No, the policy is not changing.’ Bill Kristol wrote a very condemning article saying that the White House must not change policy, must stick with the surge. The White House called back, said: ‘Why are you giving us such a hit; we’re staying with the surge.” The Weekly Standard [Owned by Rupert Murdock] and the AEI control our foreign policy now….Since the White House complied, Kristol wrote a “Bush was Right” Op-ed in the Washington Post [...]
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