Chris Matthews: Funny, you're pretty clean for a DFH!
By Nicole Belle Monday Jul 16, 2007 9:18pm
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I suppose it's not so ironic that an anchor who can simultaneously hold an almost embarrassing man-crush on the President AND be vocally against the war can betray his DFH prejudice about those he considers "fringe far left". Never mind that the polls show that those "fringe" are actually 60+% of the American population, and include him.
David Shuster interviews IraqSummer/MoveOn participants protesting outside the Capitol as the Senate prepares for their all-nighter. Note their clear-spoken, calm and intelligent defense of both the importance of this protest in particular and exercising your civic right to protest in general.
And Tweety's response?
Well, that's certainly a wholesome-looking crowd for an anti-war bunch...
UPDATE: Digby tipped us to this and says:
Apparently he was expecting to see some long haired college kids burning bras and taking over the ROTC building, which isn't a huge surprise. It's just the Washington establishment's irrational fear of hippies rearing its anachronistic head again...read on
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What is a DFH? Deutsch - Französische Hochschule?
I know a boatload of acronyms... but this one.... nope.
I say if you use an acronym.... toss in what it stands for, at the onset... AP style rules, etc.
It's a nice courtesy.
Could the media have BEEN any more patronizing?!?! WTF was THAT?!
Targa,
DFH stands for Dirty F-cking Hippie.
i was thinking it stood for Dumb F-en hicks, but it didn't fit. Dirty hippie it is then.
Bartleby @ 2:
I don't see how Tweety ever worked for Tip O'Neill. I think Tweety faked being a Dem because working in for the Speaker is a prime gig, and who wouldn't want that on their resume. Just more proof that the media is broken. Did anyone read the Ambinder piece over at The Atlantic about John Edwards? Greenwald nailed him on it. Not only that, but Ambinder claims that a lot of the media hates Edwards.
Ah... Thank you JK's conscience.
Wow. Holy Crap. Chris Matthews is certainly a dickhead. I always thought so... Now I know.
What year does he think this is, 1969?
When Matthews makes his comment, it looks like he goes left and right with his lower body. He ALWAYS does that! It's as if his asshole itches him or something.
I still think his show should be called "SHITBALL" with chris matthews . . .
Everybody knows it's the Bushies who are the pond scum.
My God, half of them don't even have teeth!
Tweety's idea of wholesome:
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/n/U/moran.jpg
Unbelievable. I can't wait til we get this guy off the evening news. He should have a Jerry Springer show and no more. Damn these bastards. No respect.
Targa @ 1:
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DONT trash the germans !! at least here iam more free then you are!!
Those at the vigil must have taken Chao's advice regarding the bath.
Tweety's an ass clown!
jim @ 4:
I thought is was "Dirty Fucking Hillary" for not atoning for her pro-war vote and taking Murdoch's blood and propaganda money.
tweety is such a brain dead, suck ass twirp. Figures he'd have some worthless demeaning comment such as that. What a shill. He needs to trade places with Shuster.
Can the bloggers actually tell us the Acronyms instead of assuming that we as readers know what they are? I have no idea what DFH means and i see that i'm not the only one
WHAT IS DFH?!!!
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The Baker
Yes, the most wholesome people are always in favor of blowing up men, women and children who are a different color than they are. Remind me again why I'd want to be called "wholesome"?
Tweety = ACP
Arrogant
Condescending
Prick
I have been boycotting MSNBC(except Olberman) since "Death Star" Coulter was on. I urge everyone to do that.
Until they pledge to keep her kind off the station.
Oh yeah, Matthews sucks.
What an elitist pig Matthews is!
Fuck him!
Bastard.
I am a DFH! Proud to be one and here's what it means:
I was against Nixon's war in 'Nam.
I was against Reagan's war against Americans.
I was against Bush I's stupid adventure in EyeRack.
I was against Clinton's war against the Progressive Movement in this country.
I am against the Vile Cheney's war in The MeatGrinder.
I am one mean, nasty, ReThug ass-kickin' DIRTY FUCKING HIPPIE!
AND I AIN'T TAKIN' NO 'CONSERVATIVE' PRISONERS THIS TIME.
THEY AND THEIR FOUL 'POLITICAL PERSPECTIVE' WILL BE BURIED UNDER THE FUKIN' JAIL.
ALONG WITH THE STUPID, VENAL YATTERING TOOLS LIKE MR. TWEETY HERE.
GUY'S BRAIN CANNOT BE BIGGER THAN A PEA.
I wish they would give Shuster Tweety's job!
Tweety--pile into your clown car that GE is paying for and drive off into the sunset. This clown is so disgusting--he offers NOTHING to the viewers--I wouldn't waste 5 seconds of my time with him.
Believe me, when he worked for Mr. O'Neill, he was so far out of the loop it wasn't funny. Number one, he was not from Massachusetts, 2) he wasn't to be trusted and 3) he was a total know-it-all. I know, because I was there at the time.
Those closest to the Speaker were Leo Diehl, Eleanor Kelly (his secretary), Dolores Snow, Kirk O'Donnell and 2 others whose names I can't remember. Believe me, Tweety was kept at arms length.
Also, Tweety is no one to discuss any body else's habits--you do not want to be in the same room when he is eating. You'd swear he was brought up in a barn or in a pigsty. He eats with his mouth open and he acts like he's never going to eat again. This guy has some really SERIOUS issues. He is very ill-bred and a big faker on top of it all.
Tweety is a twit. He pays more attention to the messengers than the message.
Amen to Targa #1. Please, please, bloggers....if you use an acronym, spell out what it means up front. I'm so glad I wasn't the only one befuddled by DFH.
tanglewood @ 26:
Tweety-pile into your clown car that GE is paying for and drive off . . . A CLIFF !
Wow tweety, your pretty f**kin stupid for a guy who has his own TV show!
From me, Tweety gets a pass on this one. True such superficial criteria should be irrelevant, however, they are not where the hinter lands are concerned. To allow the moderates in the middle states to realize others like themselves are using everyone's Constitutional entitlements to express opinions contrary to the Administration's is enormously beneficial as an inclusive exercise. "Hey, it's not just for wackos anymore!" at least from middle America's perspective, is a positive change in mind set.
At least Matthews gave the antiwar people some unobstructed airtime, with David Schuster asking pointy questions that drew out some excellent responses. Thats better than most.
I think he was trying to pay them a compliment - albeit an ill-conceived one.
I just missed being a DFH by a couple of years, however, in spirit, I'm a DFH to the core!
PopeTodd @ 30:
Perhaps I should have used PFS?
In Tweety speak the frame for wholesome is: Cute chicks not to be taken seriously.
chris voted for bush he pushed for the war he kisses Reps azz I stopped watching his show a year ago.
Sorry, guys...site rules prohibit me from using swear words in posts.
DFH stands for "Dirty F-cking Hippie". We've used it fairly commonly in reference to the way the punditry refers to anti-war groups.
#16 & #17- "DFH?"
Didn't notice anyone clarifying DFH. I'm just guessing here, but as a mid-western college kind in the 60's (you can all stop gasping now) I often called a damn f-ing hippie., often with an embellishment of additional assorted expletives. Until corrected, I'm going with that contextually and experientially deduced guess.
Sorry, Ms Belle,
You beat me by a cursor! thanks for the correction.
I thought for sure it was democratic fringe hater!
OOOPS- college KID! duh!
OMG! and an omitted verb! Shame on me. "...I was often called..."
I didn't know the meaning of it either, but it fits me like a glove.
I'm a DFH....cool.
And the letters a close together on my keyboard.
/easier to type
//DFH = me
a = are. hahaha
I thought DFH meant Democracy For Houston. Even if it does, Nicole's definition is much better. Here is a great article that explains more of where the DFH is coming from while defending their liberal fringe. I am supportive of anyone who will stand up for what they believe in even if the odds seem against them at times.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2007/05/vain-in-our-highmindedness-by-dig...
Orangutan. @ 11:
Insult Jerry Springer again and I will have to kick your ass :)
You could hear it in the tone of his voice and his stupid questions, Shuster's angle was "So girlies, why are you here for a loosing cause that has no chance in hell of working?"
Tweety's angle was what?: progressive people should be in camo clothes with dreds and tats?
The women nailed the buffoons.
LBJ took the IRT.
Chris Matthews and O'Reilly want to the same stereotyping school
Bob Daniels @ 48:
Actually, Schuster is one of the good guys. He regularly calls BS on wingnuts. He's Olberman, but with less body language and more coffee. He needs his own show.
Today's grammar/usage lesson:
An acronym is a word formed by the first letters of a series of words describing the meaning of the word. Examples: scuba (self-contained underwater breathing apparatus), radar (radio detecting and ranging), etc.
Groups of letters that do not form an actual word (FBI, CIA) are not acronyms, but initialisms. And, of course, an abbreviation is simply a shortened form of a word or phrase (e.g., assn. for association).
One acronym that really applies to our predicament? Snafu.
As for Tweety, well, he's one sick bastard. Eats with his mouth flapping and has a musk-scented crush on Wanton Boy and Freddie "Creature From the Black Lagoon" Thompson. The hell with him.
#49 bones-
You got some "Hair" goin on there, bro! LOL!
#52 'Doc" Bowman-
Your definition is correct, but shouldn't it be "SNAFU?" It is, after all, an acronym, predecessor to FUBAR, I believe.
I always thought Chris Matthews was another right wing mouthpiece but lately he's surprised me a bunch of times....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkTnCEhqhNA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoM90bAsr1M&mode=related&search=
and a few others... and its a good point that aside from his one comment (which could be taken in different ways, maybe he's just got a wry sense of humour) he did allow a long interview that didn't include the interviewer shouting people down or asking ridiculous questions. im i naive to think that maybe he's waking up to what a real reporter should be like? (or he's switching sides early, cos theres popularity to be had on olbermans/colberts/stewart's side)
But CM doesn't even mention our kids getting drunk on hand sanititizer OR the latest missing white woman featured on FOX.
He is indicative of the liberal media and the anti-American DailyKos.
If you can't trust OReilly and W who can you trust?
Such scandal. Like Whitewater.
I'd give Matthews a break. In his own way, he's been a tough Iraq war critic for a long time. He just has an odd way of expressing himself that alienates all kinds of people. Conservatives dislike him and ridicule him as much as some liberals do. I would know, I have kind of given up on his show. I prefer Hardball when Barnicle is on.
Chris lost me as a viewer after his Ann Coulter fuckfest.
Horst @ 54:
The general mood of the country started out SNAFU then all the voting machines went all TARFUN in favor of the same candidate, Bush. As a result, our government is FUBAR.
Well, Matthews certainly is a wholesome-looking man for an pro-war buttmunch…
They're a pretty wholesome bunch considering theyre the political opposites of the guys who sent death threats to the judge to sentenced Libby....
Matthews has sucked up and pandered for so long, he has no idea what a reasoned argument or reasoned position looks like. As a result, he is no longer crediable and his rating are starting to show that as viewers are wise to him Schuster would be a great replacement. He's sharp, fact, articulate and seems to stick to the facts and not spin.
I was not offended at all by Matthews comment. It thought it undercut the usual way in which the seriousness of such protests is dismissed. I thought he was expressing the prejudices of viewers -- and only tangentially his own.
abarts @ 58:
yup, i dont even watch it anymore. plus when he talks about Judy Giuliani , he spittles too much. its sick, man.
Is Tweety on acid?
Jeez, you guys are getting a bit unnecessarily defensive here.
Matthews was acknowledging that the contemporary anti-war movement is something quite mainstream.
Instead of being so touchy and paranoid and calling for his head, you could see it as a vindication and a sign of success. he was making a statement of fact.
Come on guys. It's gonna take a little more mettle than this if we're gonna take this thing to the mat. This is no time to go getting whiney and wussy over any perceived wittle insult to your feewings.
Matthews treats anything left as fringe. He's done that with several issues where the majority of americans think something and he treats it like some kind of 2% splinter cult.
Da Spyda Is Tweety on acid?
It's Meth.
Have you ever seen him not wired up.
Too bad Matthews didn't get dosed over Summer Tour. He's so out of it.
When was the last time you saw a hippie? I was like 5, maybe six years old last time I saw one. They grew up, my brothers and sisters, to vote Republican and join Evangelical churches in their old age. Glad I was born a little later.
Mathews is VERY BALANCED to say that he leans right is CRAZY ....
My Dad is a Neo Con HARD CORE .... HE thinks Chris is a Pinko
I like to think of myself as a leftie ...but sorry i won't drink the KOOL Aid
2 things ......
1) it is possible for the left to be wrong ( I am not saying now )
2) just because someone does NOT agree with you does Not mean that
they are a G.W. BUSH FAN
The second-generation hippies grew up to put on solar-powered music festivals and run for local office. http://denisecares.blogspot.com/
Nicole and Sitemonitors,
You might want to add an update link to this post of Editor & Publisher's account of "Scaife-Owned Newspaper Calls for Iraq Troop Withdrawal -- Questions Bush's 'Mental Stability'" [seeing as how Matthews likes to strut his PA credentials.]
Taste: "The Pittsburgh newspaper owned by conservative billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife yesterday called the Bush administration's plans to stay the course in Iraq a "prescription for American suicide."
The editorial in the Tribune-Review added, "And quite frankly, during last Thursday's news conference, when George Bush started blathering about 'sometimes the decisions you make and the consequences don't enable you to be loved,' we had to question his mental stability."
As my wife said to me, "Honey, this is too delish."
Chris Matthews is a regular asshole.
His comment did home in on the fact that the anti-war movement is NOT a fringe movement. He could've done it in a nicer way though most definitely. Maybe "Gee, what a diverse group, really represents the make-up of the country at large."
First: Back in the day, we called ourselves "freaks" or "heads" mostly - rednecks called us hippies.
Second: There were tons of what we called "weekend hippies" in the 60s and 70s who put on their "hippie uniform" of love beads, tie dye and carefully torn bell-bottoms on the weekend to score some dope and get laid - and yeah, big surprise! They became Republicans.
Third: A lot of us stayed cool - but we had kids and life happened. Time for a new generation to pick up where we left off. Start by listening to "Working Class Hero" by John Lennon.
Fourth: Tweety is a wingnut schizo that everybody hates. You could cherrypick his remarks to prove him to be of just about any opinion - because he likes to pretend to open-mindedness.
I have always felt that there was something false about Chris Matthews. I think he's bluffed his way into the political scene and now demands to be a force to be reckoned with. But as is the style of most reporters, nobody has done their 'homework' on him. Tweety is a phoney and a nutjob.
surprised tone with "wholesome looking crowd for an anti-war bunch".
Hmm, so I guess a crowd of war mongers would appear in suits and ties? I would think the pro-kill bunch would be sporting Rambo gear, or aprons with chainsaws.
Matthews: They look so clean and speak so well.
This is a great example of how you frame this issue.
1) Republicans are obstructionists
2) We want to secure America and republicans are stopping us
Send this to the dems so they can learn how to talk.
damning with faint praise
that's how to interpret Tweety's comments.
he sees them as rational hippies, but hippies nonetheless.
his attempt to diminish their/our importance is reprehensible.
What must have really chapped all those guys' asses about DFH's back when was that they were ultimately right, as they are today. It's just that instead of manifesting itself as a cultural outburst of nonconformity, today's anti-war movement is mobilizing people of all ages. Why I don't know, except that maybe the Bush Machine made the mistake of not waiting long enough between ridiculous Treasury-Looting wars. Usually you need a generation or two of utter complacency to lull a whole population to sleep. In the case of Vietnam, it's clear that the long-term effects of that war on our culture persisted and continued to echo, keeping an elder generation informed of the destructive effects of letting warmongers run things.
What decade is Mathews living in? Did his mind just lock down when Kennedy was shot? This puts him in the same crowd with Bush and Cheney who seem to think that most of the rest of us travel by stagecoach and get our news from the Tombstone Weekly Gazette. They seem to have no clue that every time they get in front of a camera or behind a microphone, it's being recorded.
That's right, Chris! We now have your soul trapped in our magic box!
HEY, MATTHEWS!!!!!
YOU'RE PRETTY WHOLESOME LOOKING FOR A FUCKING MEDIA WHORE!
While weare at it...DFH explains and all... can somebody tell me why Chris is nick-named "Tweety"?
He spits more like Sylvester the cat and is mentally thick as Daffy or Elmer Fudd.
His huge forehead?
It's a good thing DFH is wholesome when you consider the Repugs are hosome.
MyGodBeatsYourGod @ 85:
I hear it's a nickname from the studio crew about his yellow hair dye job.
But I like your Warner Brothers explanation better.
Thhuufffering thhhhhhuckatash!
What does it say about our country and culture when people associated with an anti war, anti violence movement are also associated with being unwholesome? And of course it is so deeply ingrained in the minds of so many, that it is said without any hesitation or thought. The collective mind of our nation has decided violence is good and necessary. Where will we go from here?
I suppose they were expecting open liquor, bongs and "we love osama" signs? Or were those just the props that faux noise dropped off for their sponge minions to scatter around?
Anonymal @ 20:
I second the acronym!
A Richard Head @ 21:
I could not agree with you more.
I do NOT watch ANYTHING on NBC/MSNBC.
Without Imus and Olberman, their programming is in the toilet. I don't even watch big Timmeh on MTP.
What happened to all the Great programming that Dan Abrams was going to bring to the network? Ain't happening!!!
Tucker, Tweety, Morning Joe, it's all horrible.
Chris Matthews: 2005's Misinformer of the Year
http://mediamatters.org/items/200512230005
Samples:
"[S]ometimes it glimmers with this man, our president, that kind of sunny nobility." [Hardball, 10/24/05]
Chris ♥ George, Part 2: "Everybody sort of likes the president, except for the real whack-jobs ..." Insulting the majority of Americans who hold an unfavorable opinion of President Bush, Matthews exclaimed on Hardball: "Everybody sort of likes the president, except for the real whack-jobs, maybe on the left," adding, "I mean, like him personally." [Hardball, 11/28/05]
Tweety is a real whack-job.
For those who remember Johnny Carson (Tonight Show)...Carson in my mind set the mode that entertainment news profession is in to this day. Mathews (like Carson) privately knows the score. He is much more sophisticated and nuanced off camera but plays the "regular guy" to his advantage. It places him in the middle of things and keeps his ratings high according to the perception of American taste which can often be, bland.
Far too many people don't follow the issues because they are put in childish terms though. That is deadly to Democracy. If we can remember details of a hundred episodes of the old Star Trek show, we can handle legislation.
I'd like to know why Matthews keeps saying this is the longest war we've had. We were in Vietnam for eleven years! Nixon ran for President promising he had a plan to end the war. He didn't, in fact he escalated and invaded Cambodia and Laos. When Gerald Ford toof office he didn't end the war either. Congress had to stop the funding to stop the war. Do we have to wait eleven years and 58,000 dead Americans? I wish someone would start talking about how we ended the Vietnam war and start defunding money for Iraq. Democrats have said time and time again they will fund enough money for the redeployment and keep the troops safe with what they need, but not for continuing a practice of putting our troops out in a field and inviting everyone in the middle east to shoot at them!
Hey people! Time out. Those of us who use profanity, demonizing, denigration, and hyperbole in any statement or discussion are clouding the subject. I don't care who you are or what you believe in. You are reducing the subject to rude gossip. No one except equally rude people will hear what you have to say. And even that's a big 'Maybe'. Everyone else will shut out your message, and you will have achieved nothing. It is not respectful of yourself or the people you wish to influence by your opinion. I don't care on what side of the political arena you are. I don't care what your agenda is. Trying to control other people in this manner is NOT OK. It is not a useful means of communication, except for rude people with control agendas. Stop it now! Either state your position in a civil manner, or get back in the corner for another time out. Cogito!
Penamoon @ 95:
To quoth Rene Descartes, "Coginto Ergo Sum."
To quoth Pete Townsend, "Who the f**k are you?
Cogito.
Maybe it's time to go on a diet.
So THAT'S what it's all about? Get a $200 haircut, and put on a suit, and YOU TOO can start illegal wars, ruin the Justice Department, raid the US treasury, spy on your fellow citizens, and basically ruin a once-great nation......
But those dirty fucking hippies are smoking POT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Throw them in jail for life!!!!!
Tweety has proven over and over he is a Bush Ass Kisser when everything that comes out of his mouth is absolute stupidity.
Matthews has his brief moments of clarity and usefulness, but he's embarassingly idiotic on a daily basis and completely unreliable. Matthews is so in love with his gossipy personal impressions and hunches he belongs more on a Miss Cleo show than one for serious political analysis.
I give up.
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