Countdown: Harriet Miers, Inherent Contempt, Pat Tillman & Executive Privilege
Former White House Counsel Harriet Miers defied a Congressional subpoena last week and Congress is considering charging her with contempt of Congress. As we find out on Monday's "Countdown," if the DoJ does not uphold a contempt charge it is believed they will circumvent Alberto Gonzales and charge Miers with Inherent Contempt. According to Jonathan Turley, if charged with Inherent Contempt, Miers would be arrested by the Sergeant-At-Arms, frog marched directly to Congress and tried on the spot.
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On the topic of the Bush Administration's grotesque and unforgivable handling and cover up of Pat Tillman's death, Turley is as animated as I've ever seen him. He, like most Americans, is shocked at how the president has tortured Tillman's family by stonewalling the investigation.
Turley: "The White House seems to be invoking executive privilege if anyone is within a twenty-five mile radius of the building. It's as clever and as elegant as a meat cleaver. It is a rather bad way to go about this. Past presidents have compromised. On something like Tillman, I don't think past presidents would have said 'let's fight this out.'"
if charged with Inherent Contempt, Miers would be arrested by the Sergeant-At-Arms, frog marched directly to Congress and tried on the spot.
Beautiful!
If they charge her with Inherent Contempt, WHEN will they do it? Will months go by? Let's frog-march her to congress NOW!
I am concerned that if the Democrats push this all the way to the supreme court, takeing into consideration the makeup of the court, this could give the adminstration undue power for all time. That said I hope the whole adminstration are frog marched at some point and the sooner the better.
I'm wondering whether Congress focusing on this stuff like Harriet Miers is really not helping the Democrats. Wouldn't it be better just to focus on getting out of Iraq, or, is there fear that this would hurt Democrats in '08, the way anti-war McGovern lost in '72.
L.A. Confidential @ 1:
Hell yeah -- I'd PAY to see that! I'd pay even more to see Busholini and Dr Evil frogmarched into the Hague!!!
I really can't recall any instances of a past President claiming that the details of how a US soldier was killed somehow falls under Executive Privelege. I don't even recall them having to compromise on such an issue.
L.A. Confidential @ 1:
She's an old lady, frog marching would be crewel. But a perp walk in an orange jump suit and no make-up would work for me.
DB @ 5:
One of the main reasons that so many new members were elected was for accountability. That is exactly what this is. While some may call it petty, I think the majority of people clearly understand the issue.
DB @ 5:
"This stuff"? This stuff you say? Would you prefer that MORE illegal acts are merely glossed over or ignored?
Team Frog March
Huh?
Who got booted from Hell's Kitchen last night?
L.A. Confidential @ 1:
Yes, that is one Reality Show that I would like to watch.
Congress should charge her with Inherent Contempt forthwith considering Al Gonzo pre-emptively gave her a pass with his letter agreeing with his co-criminal, the Chimperor.
The invoking of Executive Priveledge in the Tillman case, adding to the size and scope of the cover-up, leads me to believe more and more that it wasn't just a case of "friendly-fire," but rather that Pat Tillman was murdered, or as the military puts it, "Fragged."
They couldn't have their posterboy doing interviews with Chomsky and explaining in Football terms (that the average inlistee can understand) why the war and occupation in Iraq is illegal.
Yeah, Pat Tillman was a hero and died serving his country, but he was a liberal. So fuck him and fuck his family.
Wouldn't an inherent contempt trial be led by... the President of the Senate?
AKA, the Vice President?
DB @ 5:
We want oversight, we want justice, we want retribution. We also want out of Iraq. If the Dems DON'T expose these crooks it will hurt the Democratic party.
A-ha! Jamie Cole, thank you for pointing out the inherent inconsequence of this whole proceeding.
Although, I'm sure positive that this scandal will be a main topic of conversation on my bus ride home from work tonight. Yup, the proles will be all over this.
Gosh, I still can do sarcasm once in a while.
Again, most people don't understand this stuff; they gloss over it. I fear it makes the Democrats look petty, when the Dems should really be focusing on getting us out of Iraq and the Mideast.
Congressional approval numbers are low; we need to get them raised. Focus only on Iraq. (I don't think this is like McGovern in '72. People really don't want war now.)
Big woooopity dooo! All this tough talk, public poll probing talk from congress...and they won't do what they're commanded to do by their constituents, nor will they do their jobs. As with so many other tough talking points (dare I say "chickenhawkish" talking points), this dem congress will just bend over and take it in the ass as the wee little tough guy in the White House ruins the world and throws his feces at it without an OUNCE of accountability measured on his head.
DB @ 5:
I think that congress has to work on a lot of issues, all the time. It's not like they can't chew gum and walk at the same time.
Mike Mid City @ 8:
Not cruel. Toadys can be frog marched with ease.
Jamie Cole @ 15:
He would preside over it, but ultimately have very little say in the outcome. It would be a charge that is rather hard to defend considering that she just didn't show up. Not much wiggle room there.
Rusty Shackleford @ 14:
Wow, you sure know how to support the troops. Take a hike dirtbag.
Ron @ 23:
Geez, Ron. Even I can tell this is sarcasm.
Ron @ 23:
Wow, you sure know how to detect sarcasm. Take a pill cleanlinessbag.
According to Jonathan Turley, if charged with Inherent Contempt, Miers would be arrested by the Sergeant-At-Arms, frog marched directly to Congress and tried on the spot.
Ain't gonna happen. Not by these spineless ninnies in Congress.
DB @ 18:
No, most people clearly understand that when you receive a subpoena, you have to show up. You can't just proclaim that you are not required to be there. Add to this that Miers was a Supreme Court nominee who still feels that the laws don't apply to her and I think most be understand quite well. It is rather difficult to consider yourself Supreme Court Justice material, yet have very little understanding for the law.
The average person understands that they would be jailed for this.
Rusty Shackleford @ 25:
I am sorry, but I get a little offended at that kind of sarcasm. I know the troops wouldn't appreciate it.
RayC @ 4:
Certainly not for all time. In Jurney v MacCracken (http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=294&invol=...) SCOTUS denied a habeas petition to someone imprisoned under inherent contempt. Now, this court's own contempt for previous SCOTUS decisions means that Congress could lose in this circumstance, but a future SCOTUS could simply overturn this court's decision.
It's become more and more obvious that the current White House uses "executive privilege" for the purpose of obstruction of justice and covering up evidence of their own crimes. And they've gotten away with it for years!
Let's see some more "inherent contempt" charges... Arm that Sergeant!
So Ron. You speaking for the troops now? Putting words into their mouths?
Where'd you buy that crystal ball?
Btw, we'd really want the House to handle any contempt case. A Senate case would find Cheney (as President of the Senate) running a contempt case there.
booshco should cite Executive Privies.
As in, "He can't answer your question, he's taking a dump."
How exactly do you know this?
Ron @ 28:
I completely agree. Take it up with the Bush Administration. It was their attitude I was sarcastically expressing.
Jamie Cole @ 15:
Only if the Senate filed the contempt charge to begin with, ergo let the House do it.
ashton @ 34:
The same way Bush et.al. "knew" Saddam had WMD, faith-based "knowledge"...
"Waaaah....they want to ruin my legacy. I don't have to show them the papers. I don't hafta, I don't hafta. I'm the President guy, the commander, the decider guy. I don't have to deal with no body. This is my war. My guns. My tanks. See...i got the big round shield thingie in front of me when I speak. I don't have to talk to no families, I don't have to see them. I know he got killed...I honor him for his service, but it wasn't my fault...so I don't have to talk to them."
Boy, have you guys got attitudes today.
First off Dems should get as much light on this as possible because it's absolutely disgusting, nothing new from BushCo about that.
Second, they have to really be out of their minds to be pissing on the demographic that respects Tillman. From vets, to the NFL, to even the NASCAR crowd, you have to know that a young handsome professional blowing off millions of dollars in order to defend his country is the definition of a folk hero and one popular kind of guy. This is like asking who likes apple pie or who would defend their mom. Stonewalling this investigation is just dumb.
If I only wanted Democrats to win, I would cheer this boob; i would tell GOPers to cling to him like a life line in a storm; I would only hope that Bush continues to be the stubborn little boy that he is and that the GOP bow down to him as well as Cheney and Karl. However, I'm an American first. I sincerely hope that all the facts of Tillman's death come to light and that Bush is impeached as soon as possible, followed by Cheney and then Gonzo.
ashton @ 34:
And you think they would?
SO ...subpoena Rove...he wont show up....arrest him.... and be REAL slow in processing his case... Watch the spin and inner working of the White house go out of control..... :)
With regard to Pat Tillman's death & Bush's claim of executive privilege, the obvious question is:
What did the President know, and when did he know it?
Sound familiar?
This criminal administration is a cancer - Impeachment is the cure.
Ron @ 39:
Gee, could it possibly be due to the fact that SUBPOENAS are now being IGNORED by these contemptuous fascists?
The BELIEVE they are above the law. Without the rule of law...THERE IS NO COUNTRY. PERIOD.
And the People just sit by and DON'T GIVE A SHIT. I HATE THIS COUNTRY. I REALLY DO. I've had ENOUGH.
Want to know what would happen to these BASTARDS in a REAL COUNTRY...they'd be HUNG BY THEIR FREAKIN' NECKS. THEY"D BE IN FRONT OF A FIRING SQUAD. THE WHOLE LOT OF THEM. INCLUDING THE IMBECILE IN CHIEF.
Bet she looks hot in handcuffs.
Tillman was murdered because he realized the truth about the "war on terror"
Way over the top.
Shows the President will oppose all.
miss_kitty @ 31:
Meh. He didn't get the sarcasm and he's trying to cover. Lol.
Rusty Shackleford @ 14:
The above is a perfect example of a sad little deranged man living in his mothers basement. You sir, disgust me.
Now that I've have probably fed a troll on to the post. Speaking of deranged, it seems the longer the War Pigs go on the more ridiculous they become. It looks like to me they have literally lost their minds. I wonder if Dick and George are pulling out all of the stops and see how far they can get with all that absolute power they have collected into the executive branch?
Harriet Miers ought to get a citation just for impersonating a racoon.
anonymous @ 49:
I have two, that's why I like my dates to wear rubber gloves.
[refers to deleted post]
Do you think that is why they went there for? They are there because they were lied to. Don't blame the troops.
Ron @ 41:
I don't take it upon myself to speak for large groups of people that I have never met. Only crazy people would do that.
Jerry @ 50:
I resent that. I do NOT live in my mom's basement. It is too cluttered.
Jerry @ 50:
All of that because you don't recognize sarcasm. Perhaps you should read before responding. This was already covered.
I'm a little confused. If the Senate issues a subpoena, which is then refused, how would the House be able to bring contempt charges? I'm sure they'll soon have their own examples of calling witnesses and being told to take a flying leap, but I'm not sure that this is the case. Clarification?
What about Republicans and Right-Wing Media accusing the Democrats of standing only for subpoena, surrender and censorship. We need, at least, to drop this Harriet Miers stuff.
Rusty Shackleford @ 35:
If you would have referred your comments as being sarcasm in the first place and referred to Bush, we wouldn't be having a discussion.
Why not charge Gonzales with obstruction for refusing to compel her to testify?
Is that possible?
Ron @ 59:
That kind of takes away from the impact of using sarcasm in the first place, now doesn't it?
Ron @ 59:
I knew it was sarcasm. And I didn't need a diagram.
DB @ 58:
No, DB -- that would be exonerating the reichwing's flouting of our laws (what's left of them, anyway). Obstruction of justice; contempt of Congress; perjury.
"executive privilege" -- heh heh, I'm the Chief zecutive, so I kin use mah privlej any tahm I wont to!
So what if Cheney didn't show up to preside over the inherent contempt proceeding? I'm quite serious. This administration is very into bug-testing the constitution.
Georgette Orwell @ 57:
Because it was a House Judiciary Committee hearing that she didn't show up for. The Senate has nothing to do with this
Let it be so! Congress has some making up to do, and the time to start is NOW.
Rusty Shackleford @ 61:
I can't tell what you are thinking or if you are thinking by reading your comments. Your comments are in print. I can't hear your voice or hear you laugh by reading your words. If a troll posted that, you would have been all over him.
"Congress is considering charging her with contempt" -
CONSIDERING? CONSIDERING???
This Democratic-controlled Congress defines namby-pamby, wishy-washy, and do-nothing simultaneously!
What a non-accomplishment.
Ron @ 59:
Jeebus, Ron, you got it wrong. Please move on already. I am sure you get it right plenty other times, but in this case being a last word freak is a waste of thread space.
Wow! Okay..... I guess there are new politically correct cleanliness rules for sarcasm.
BTW, I got it.....
Hey, I'm about to make a sarcastic post, okay? Do I have permission? I better wait to get permission.
Ah, sarcasm... I can't get enough of it. :)
Ron @ 67:
ARRRGH! AAAAAARRRRRRGH!
The rest of us got it, get it? IT'S OK, Ron. You just missed the joke; that's all.
Rusty Shackleford @ 14:
And FUCK YOU for saying such a horrible thing about a dead soldier and his family.
Marley @ 72:
Man, I'm really going to have to dumb it down from now on.
Marley @ 72:
Oh. My. God. Are the idiots out today? What has happened here? Is this one of those obfuscation campaigns by the right wingers?
This is one of those "change the subject" things right?
I think I will petition the WWW Cosortium to somehow create a "sarcasm" tag.. maybe 'scm' or something.
Sheesh!
[...] come back and let them out. This one is a Harriet, but close enough. Harriet Miers Tells Congress Where to Stick Their Subpoenas — Former White House Counsel Harriet Miers defied a Congressional subpoena last week and [...]
Bonkers @ 71:
If that was a joke, I'm glad I missed it. You have a fucked up sense of humor.
How quickly would a Repub-controlled Congress move to have Clinton's former aide charged if she/he refused to honor a subpoena? What if Clinton covered up the death of a soldier after first exploiting it to no end? We would hear about it 24/7 on the so-called liberal MSM. The outrage from rush and sean and glenn, et al., would fill the airwaves with vitriol that would curl your hair.
But because it's Miers and because the Dems can basically call the shots, we've all turned into a bunch of talking heads, debating the abstracts, while the scofflaws of the bush administration flip us the third finger and go on about their merry way.
Twilight Zone. We're in the frickin' Twilight Zone.
Rusty, Rusty, Rusty.
Too bad your sarcasm is literally identical to the trolls' real posts.
The trolls ARE as brain-dead as you pretend to be.
Rusty Shackleford @ 73:
It was just in poor taste even if it was sarcasm. It was just a terrible to read.
Maybe consider talking in the 3rd person, naming that person next time so it doesn't sound so horrible. We are not dumb. We are just more respectful of the dead and their family than you are...
Targa @ 74:
people's reaction to this post seems a lot less "idiotic" if one were to venture into reichwing blog land, where this type of comment is not a rarity. even on C&L comments like this pop-up from trolls and the such. had i not recognized his name i would have thought the same as others. idiotic? not at all, maybe just more used to coming across idiotic comments.
but *news flash* maybe we don't need to keep hammering away at this misunderstanding (as i continue the discussion), the combatants seem to be on the same side anyway.
This certainly raises some intriguing constitutional questions... What is the Sergeant at Arms going to do, show up at Harriet's house with a warrant? What if she pretends she's not home? Does he break down the door? Peep through the windows? Smoke her out with tear gas? Call in a SWAT team?
Most important, where do we tune in to watch -- COPS or CSpan?
Samson@79
Ahhh! A voice of reason.
Marley @ 79:
I can't help it. I hate dead people and their families. It's who I am.
Rusty Shackleford @ 83:
Peace Rusty. We all have made our points. Let's drop it.
Rusty Shackleford @ 83:
:lol:
Marley @ 79:
Mr. Shackleord, or Mr. Gribble, or whatever your name is - please don't dumb it down. I think most of us got the sarcasm. "Respect for the dead..." has nothing to do with it. Geesh.
Guys and Gals,
Telling someone you're about to say something sarcastic is like telling someone you're about to scare them. It takes away the impact and leaves you looking like a wanker.
if you didn't "get the joke", man up and say so. There's nothing wrong with admitting your sense of humour is not as refined as others.
A listener from Randi Rhodes show brought this up last week and it has snowballed.
Rusty Shackleford @ 83:
You're a real idiot. Sarcastic or not.
Just when the President decides to do what he wants, someone from the Coast Guard academy wants "special courts".
Rather than addres teh problems with the existing violations, the wrong answer is to create another court that this President can defy. The proposed court includes all the elements this Congress refsues to challenge this Preident for abusing, hardly a solution:
Navy Vet @ 87:
It's not about that... it's about the sheer horror of the statement. If you were a family member of the dead soldier and you just happened to read something like that... WOULD YOU GET THE JOKE? Get over your funny self!
Straight Shooter @ 77:
No kidding! If something this serious happened within Clinton's admin, the wingers would literally be knocking down the door to the Oval Office.
Blowjobs = BAD!
Perjury, obstruction of justice, contempt of congress, etc = IOKIYAR
This country is getting more pathetic by the day!
Being outraged is the new black.
Navy Vet @ 87:
And you say the sense of humor is refined in this discussion. Is that supposed to be funny,too? Ha ha
Targa @ 93:
Being righteous is the old brown.
Marley @ 89:
I also have a fucked up sense of humor. Maybe I'm dain-bramaged from bumping my head on the ceiling of mom's basement.
Being a republicant is the same old hypocritical lying scumbag.
Marley @ 91:
I'm sure the micks were real amused by Jonathan Swifts, "A Modest Proposal."
Swift's.
My brain's not to swift today.
Too.
Rusty, the reading comprehension is a bit lacking here today.
Why dont you start off with a knock knock joke...go from there!
:-)
while you idiots are wasting your time on whether a post was sarcastic or not, you're missing the key point, which is the concealment of facts surrounding tillman's death. i'll lay odds he was deliberately killed. he had already flipped on the war, and when his hitch was up, he'd have been a bigger nightmare for bush than kerry ever was for nixon. he had to go. what's over the top is that the bush gang then had the nerve to lie about it and exploit his death into a flag waving, jumbotron recruting bonanza. THAT's where your focus needs to be.
Any chance there's more to the Tillman story than we're being told and that's why the administration wants to cover it up. The poster who so eloquently pointed out that Tillman "was a liberal so fuck him and fuck his family" makes me wonder if his friendly fire death could in fact have been a fragging by other soldiers with the mental capacity of this poster. Tillman didn't keep his war views secret and he was sure to be a thorn in the side of the military when he was able to publicly express himself. Maybe this was an intentional "preemptive" strike and not an accident.
"We must support the troops" - George Walker Bush
That's some of the best sarcasm I've heard. Or is it hypocrisy?
The coverup isn't about Tillman's potential tales about the bogus war. The coverup is in how they chose to represent his death... about how he was killed by friendly fire.... about how there is no organization to how the war is being conducted.... about the communications between the White House and the leadership of the Department of Defense, and what they "knew about Corporal Tillman's death and when they knew it".
I thought the issue with Pat Tillman was that he was presented by this administration as a hero (for turning down an NFL offer and going to Iraq) and then it turns out that he was an "own goal". That's a pretty poor ending to a hero saga and gives the anti-war movement as powerful a symbol as Tillman originally was for the WH.
If this is correct, then the WH is just obfuscating to keep a talking point alive (rather than concealing criminality or out of misplaced principle).
Probably mine was a redundant post. Targa's last wasn't up when I was writing.
I don't think the cover-up goes beyond the lying about the circumstances of his death. A high-profile soldier, who had been turned into a kind of poster boy by the Administration, was killed by friendly fire - doesn't look too good for recruitment and support at home, does it? So they had to create the cover story that he was killed by the enemy. And to keep that cover story from getting blown, they had to lie to his family. That's reprehensible.
I doubt it was an assassination because I don't think they could have gotten the other soldiers to go along with something so monstrous.
Targa @ 106:
Targa: You are correct as to why the W/H is not wanting to talk about this issue and is in fact attempting a "cover up". Tillman's death is indeed a sad, tragic event and I see no need for some to talk about conspiracy therories.
Oh yeah, Rusty? Well, I hate dead people and their families more than YOU do!
Nyeh!
John;
You know why they are covering up. You just don't want to say it. They are insane.
Matt in Texas @ 111:
I wouldn't hate dead people unless for the services they had a lot of hanging bush's, uh, er plants.
I arrived at the C&L thread late....but based upon most of the postings I want to say:
"Can't we all just get along?
"We are all one human family, Let's act like it"
Or, as bush-lite said once: "I understand human stupidity, I am one"....or something
like that.
I hope Miers gets charged with Inherent Contempt. The junta has flouted the law too many times with their Federalist Society hatred of the legislative branch
legalpad @ 103:
Yeah and while you dismiss the fact that saying "Fuck Tillman and his family" is one of the most horrible thing anyone can say, sarcastic or not, knowing family members are reading this very post out of interest on what people have to say in the matter and then suggesting that we are idiots for calling it out is even more idiotic on your part. Easy to say: "move along and stay on subject" when you are completely emotionally severed from the actual subject. Put that in you very small thinking cap.
Rusty Shackleford @ 109:
Start thinking.
You're forgetting that many soldiers resented what they considered to be special treatment that Pat received.
Also, if you don't think USA soldiers are capable of monstrous things, I've got one word for you: Haditha.
Fragging has a history in our military; that's why it has a special name lie "fragging."
Chuck @ 46:
I agree with Chuck... he knew what was really going on. The Dark Side can't have that now, can they? And when they're asked anything about it, they cite executive privilege. Honestly, they're (Bu$hco Inc.) a bunch of kids from The Lord of the Flies. Disgustingly repulsive, arrogant, dangerous, and ...
Does Harriet Mier's smell like Oscars?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm8wa33jr_k
Marley @ 116:
Ron @ 113:
You really are a last word freak.
And by the way, I wasn't actually trying to jump all over your shit, pinhead.
equilibrio @ 117:
Those things are all true, and I acknowledge the possibility, but I still think it's a little far-fetched that there was a high-level conspiracy to kill Tillman. I think the potential damage from having the conspiracy exposed (as conspiracies tend to be, eventually) would have outweighed the potential damage of having Tillman return from duty and become a relatively small thorn in the Administration's side.
Note that I don't think the Administration wouldn't kill a soldier for moral reasons. This administration has proven itself to be completely amoral. I just don't think it would be worth the risk.
Doggiebobo @ 120:
Bonkers @ 121:
I make a joke and now I'm just trying to get in the last word and you call me a pinhead. I already called peace with Rusty @ 83. Get a life.
# 122: Well, how do I know if you are not one of them???
A viable, worthwhile and important topic of discussion, obstruction of justice, wwas hijacked beautifully today.
I think at least TWO of the individuals in this mindless "dishonoring the dead soldier" discussion are working together.
Keep your eyes on the big issues people.
If you want to honor Pat Tillman and his family, keep your eyes on the prize and take back the country.
WE have been calling for IMPEACHMENT for over two years and the SPEAKER and Congress continue to keep their ear plugs ON. Have they outsoursed even their common senses along with the jobs, money and domestic security out of our NATION?
This process of impeachment should take less time than it took to invade IRAQ and Afghanistan combine. We have credible intelligence. WE have credible EVIDENCES. AND nearly 75 % of the population give or take 5% disapprove of the JOB BUSH or CHENEY is doing.
Come ON lets get on with the PROGRAM!
right on! @ 118:
This looks like conspiracy theory 101 to me. What evidence do you have that Tillman "knew what was going on" any more than anyone else in Iraq? What evidence do you have that he was murdered?
Inventing fantasies about what the Republicans may be doing just distracts from what they are doing.
Doggiebobo @ 125:
I do not have to prove who I am to you or to anyone Doggiepoopoo!
Would you If asked you for details about your identity?
Liberal AND Proud @ 126:
Well put and stated...and I agree totally.
Doggiebobo @ 130:
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Odds were Tillman just died.
People have a hard time dealing with dead celebrities. Even the stories of JFK recovering on some island sound suspiciously like the stories of Arthur in Avalon.
And when it's a stupid death like Sarah Bernhardt or Lupe Velez, the disbelief grows greater.
Odds were that at worst Tillman was either accidentally shot or his men failed to help protect him.
Impeach, indict, prosecute, convict and execute sentence.
Pat Tillman was an American Patriot, the fact that he turned against the territorial pissings in Iraq is serious ****! I believe, that Tillman was hit by a predator drone, you know American Citizen's can legally be targeted by the Tyrant. I look forward to seeing Justice in DC some day, not today, but...
Bob Roberts @ 128:
Tillman "knew what was going on" enough to be open about his view of the illegality of the Iraqi invasion.
The evidence of his murder that your are asking about was destroyed when his diary and clothing were burned and is further obfuscated by the invoking of Executive Priviledge.
IMHO a shadowy terrorist network called "Al Qaeda" sounds like the real "Conspiracy 101."
"Inherent Contempt" would be a great title for documentary about the Bush/Cheney administration.
How about ABC when they had exclusive control of the DC Madam's list, they didn't release it because there were "no names of significance" on it! So, then, where's the story "ABC Lied"? GOP Senator Vitter not significant? How about that GOP pundit? How about the 2 GOP'ers who resigned before the list was even published?
The CMSM tells us the Dems are the sexual deviate party, but yet ALL the scandals recently are Republican! The Republican kool-aid drinkers HAVE to always mention Clinton, because that's the last time there was a Dem sex scandal! We've had at least a DOZEN GOP sex scandals in the last WEEK!
I think this administration is just like a kid trying to test the limits of his power, trying to see how much they can get away with, even on issues that aren't that important. They're trying to show they're all powerful and therefore not going to budge an inch on anything. They just keep drawing more lines in the sand, daring anyone to stop them. So far, they've gotten their way on pretty much everything. That's why we have to impeach.
Congress numbers are low because repugs still want to have it their way. It's definitely a reflection the repugs have in congress.
Targa @ 93:
black what?
Our forefathers didnt have a BILLION $$$$ in the bank either, nor could they wrap their brains around the concept of profiting Billions through screwing people. Sure they screwed people too, but not on this scale. Our forefathers have never seen scumbags like this in their entire life. It took decades of perfecting the perfect scumbag - but once the formula was made public it seems all the rich corporate assholes bought up the entire supply. Isnt evolution amazing? We went from monkey to man to turd. The capacity for man to spread pain, misery and injustice has reached an astronomical point. trust me our forefathers have not seem shitbags like the ones in power now. I think cheney would of been burned at the stake and bush flogged to death if they had to try to pull this shit around our forefathers.
Jesus Creepy people!
I've been screaming about a HUGH enemy of our country, namely David Addington, for years. He is currently Dick(head) Chainsaw's Chief of Staff. He has spent an entire career finding shit in the Constitution that 200+ years of the SMARTEST PEOPLE ON EARTH reading same could not find!!!
When will Congress bring this A$$HOLE before them???!!!!!
Make him defend his and Abu Gonzo's bullsh!t!!!
All roads lead to Rove.
It ain't goona happen. The Congress and the Senate has taken an oath "Brothers for Life." The slogan of the Skull and Bones society.
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It ain’t gonna happen. The Congress and the Senate has taken an oath “Brothers for Life.” The slogan of the Skull and Bones society.
Oh, please please please, let it be the "Inherent Contempt". That'll shake people up a bit. Let's see one of these ghouls dragged into Congress in leg-irons. They should hang a sign on her too, "This could be you, next!" On the back, "Beware!"
Oh, please, please, please. Let's see the Sergeant at Arms face M1 tanks and AC-130 gunships!
Turley: “Past presidents have compromised. On something like Tillman, I don’t think past presidents would have said ‘let’s fight this out.’"
Yet another reason I do not consider the idiot occupying the White House to actually be my president. He's brain dead.
The whole key to this is other presidents, no matter how bad, eventually succumbed to the demands of their oath of office that says ..."Preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, so help me God".
Bush is too damn stupid. I'm not much a believer in divine retribution, but if there is justice in the afterlife, Bush and Cheney will be breaking rocks in the boiler rooms of Hell for the violation of that sacred oath, among their many other sins.
What would happen if Congress held the sargeant at arms in inherent contempt?
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