Chris Matthews calls Judy Miller a Hero!
By John Amato Tuesday Jul 17, 2007 9:41pm
From the surreal to the absurd. Tweety had on the disgraced former NY Times war propagandist Judy Miller on Hardball today to share with us her thoughts on our terror readiness.
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Matthews: Judy, you're a hero to the press. You are a woman to be trusted with secrets and thank you for coming on.
Dick Cheney thanks her too for printing as much WH propaganda as she could get her hands on so it could be used by the administration to take us to war. She certainly is the person I want to hear from. <vomit>
It's bad enough that she's back on teevee, but in Matthews intro to her, he called her a hero because she went to jail for Scooter Libby who leaked her and leaked her and leaked her and....A stenographer that helped pave the way for the Iraq war with her phony columns (with the help of Michael Gordon) is nothing more than a disgusting scab that reminds us how culpable the media and the NY Times were in providing material for the Bush/Lieberman/neocon wet dream fantasy in Iraq.
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All hail Judas Miller, the water carrier for the warmongers!
Chris Who?
Tweety isint really one person to become so ooooooh he gave me a comment person.
That liar is just waiting for something. Can we guess what that is??
Well, if I were a terrorist bent on blowing up a US city, there are plenty other than New York or Los Angeles to choose from. Why risk all your effort on the obvious targets when there are so many others that would be so much easier? Be afraid!
Matthews is a complete waste of time. I am really glad I don't watch his 'news' program.
ofcourse she is a hero of the corporate propaganda journalism. These guys make me puke. Bloddy bastards.. These "journalists" should be tried for War crimes too. They are the real war mongers who spread all the propaganda about the fake WMDs and brought this country to a criminal war. Judith Miller is a fucking bitch.
And he started off by asking her if we are safer after 9/11.
Tweets has been off his nut for awhile now.
Canuknotusa @ 4:
Because the world has no idea where Ivanhoe Indianna is. Much less care.
Booga Booga
Paid reporters, planted reporters, fake reporters
taking orders
Let me help you understanda
Rubber stamped media propaganda
Mislead the people, mislead the sheeple
-Wackiavelli
OK, let me get this straight.
She serves as a funnel for Bush propaganda, helps get thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed and bankrupts our economy in the process, then she refuses to tell who set up the propaganda operation to being with and Tweety thinks she's a hero?
He must think Tony Snow's a God.
Tweety also has a huge crush on The Colossus of the CodPiece Allus has and I guess he allus will. I understand he needs a staffer to wipe his mouth after he services same.
Honestly we could do with a lot less Tweety and BillyO and a lot more clips of...you know...actual human beings instead of fellating talking heads who really know very little about anything.
Anything at all.
Matthews' show just gets more and more innane. Judith Miller? WTF? She's an expert on what? Marketing?
Here's what we learned from this pitiful interview:
1) the government is spending lots of bucks trying to make cities safe
2) we are probably safer now than we were before 911. We don't know if we're "safe enough"
Is there ANY new information content at all in this interview? When is the last time Matthews had someone on his show with any real new information content? This is supposed to be "Hardball" it looks more to me like "What the Fuck Ball." The interviews are predictable. The guests are ill-chosen. I mean, he had Bruce Willis on there last time I watched. Now, I'm a big Bruce fan (being from Jersey and all) but how exactly does Willis qualify as a talking head? Then there was the whole Ann Coulter stunt - I get the feeling that this show is tanking and Matthews is desperately trying to save it by dumbass stunts like flattering Judith Miller who is nothing but a disgrace to journalists and everyone knows it.
NO worry. nobody watches that douchebag anyway.
Canuknotusa @ 4:
You sure you're not a terrorist bent on blowing up a US city?
Why can't Judith Miller talk about Libby"s case? Libby is appealing his case. What has that got to do with Miller? I havn't heard about any gag order on her. She could spill all the beans. Has Cheney threatened to shoot her in the face?
Not to mention that bitch is so ugly she could make a billy goat puke.
Hype-Jersey @ 11:
Don't worry, Nobody is being fooled by this.
HEh @ 15:
Yeah, it's kind of weird that she had a reputation for sleeping with her sources. No accounting for taste, I guess.
We have to realize how hard Matthews and guys like Billo and Sean have to work. We that are a bit wiser know that it is easier to be truthful.
the idiots still control the asylum.
Tweety has become so intolerable that even the Saturday Night Live parodies are intolerable. Judy Miller helped fool a nation into going to war. She's a disgrace.
propaganda.... re-write history ...for all those millions that hardly pay attention
She must have blown him . . .
She has slept with everyone and everybody in New York and Washington. She has no ethics or morals. I saw the clip and I was sick. Yet there is Tweety treating her like she is the queen bee instead of being an unemployed, washed up hack, who should have been fired by the NYT years ago.
She has also had a face lift and it is a terrible one at that.
Matthews is a very insecure man who is so enamored by the perception of being around power. When I see him on the weekends, I cross the street. He is a first class pig who has no manners or breeding.
His wife is very pushy socially--she likes to think of herself as a "socialite"--2 wannabees who are nevergonnabees. LOL
Don't waste your time with Matthews. He was just at Bohemian Grove and the men cannot stand him--he is tolerated because of Jack Welch.
Judith Miiller is a traitor. Judas, Benedict Arnold, Colin Powell, and the newest guest in the ninth circle of hell, Judith Miller.
Everyone is a terrorist or a Patriot.... To the Fascists.
One thing that I see on a consistent basis, is the press will defend each other endlessly regardless of guilt, error, negligence or ethics. It's the norm for THEIR club.
Chris Matthews has the IQ of a turd! Judy Miller was nothing but a goddamned megaphone for the Bushies!
What a fucking putz!!
The official rehabilitation of Judy Miller has begun.
Our media elite is so insulated from all forms of hard work and discomfort that the fact that she spent time in the clinker (forget the reasons why) elevates her in his eyes. She is "one of us," to him and our kind of people don't to jail any more than they go to war. (They lead countries into war, but they don't go to those awful places where there are real bullets and bombs flying about.) Thus, she is a hero is his eyes. Mwwah!
I cannot believe this man used to work for Tip O'Niel. It boggles the mind.....
Yeah but because of this wacky woman, 3,622 americans are dead in iraq because of her desire to please her masters--Cheney, Libby and Rove and she used the NYT as the vehicle to do it. Let's hope there is a special place in hell for her.
Re Matthews--we are judged by the company we keep, from what I've seen here on the blog he is really low rent.
GonzoD @ 30:
Ya, he was work'in his big Tip . . .
All more the reason not to watch Matthews....
Next up the Pike,,
Joe Klein from TIME MAG!
he is the pure spin city guy to hire. Um time mag?? yoo hoo? last time i signed up for my second installment i was given a free gift!
Not a watch, not a sports travle bag, nor a polo shirt either.
I was given a slim card the size of a mini bic lighter, that could ÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖ if you used two hands,, and pres so hard it hurt, a LCD mini flashlight! Worked great for two times, after that it literaly fell apart in my hands. Looked at it more closely,, ´´MADE IN CHINA´´!
anyyyyyyyyyyyyyything for time mag to sell its whore war mags and make sure bill kystal is seen and read over here!
I know a lot of ppl that now use thier time mag to line the bottom of thier bird cage, or use it to wash glass windows, without leaving any streaks !!
I bet the "set crew" gets tired of cleaning the spit from his mic each night!
"Suffering Suck-A-Tash"
Knit her name into the wool.
One tool says to another...
Court of Progressive JusticeGonzoD @ 30:
I cannot believe this man used to work for Tip O’Niel. It boggles the mind…..
Ya, he was work’in his big Tip . . .
Hahahaha. Great job. lmao
Chris likes Judy because.....
"She Sales Sea Shell On the Sea Shore"
Chris and Judy sitting in a Tree...........
http://www.goleft.tv/
Are you friggin kidding me.
Look, a number of us defended Matthews over his DFH - like statement, giving him the benefit of the doubt, but this is quite beyond the pale. Too busy trying to slime up to his guest, he didn't chase down her clownish statement that our cities such as LA are 'safer now than it probably was at 9/11', even as we have access to the latest NIE report:
http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/niedocument_07...
which says otherwise.
This performance shows is a level of servility and lickspittle that makes me want to puke.
I'm only half way through this but, what a shallow, pointless diatribe disguised as analysis. This is not an intelligent or analytical conversation. We'll be playing out psychotic terror fantasies for as long as we live if these f*cks have their way.
MSM
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and then you have the Internet and bloggers... thankfully we still have that.
"First comes spit, then comes "A towel please" and then there is a test tube baby in a carriage"
"Judy, you’re a hero to the press. You are a woman to be trusted with secrets and thank you for coming on."
After reading that phrase I absolutely refuse to watch something that could contain such a disgusting remark.
If She is such a hero to the press, why did the American Society of Journalists and Authors revoke the award they had given her?
Matthews is such douche bag. He gets starry-eyed anytime he's in the presence of someone he's seen on TV.
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At least we still have the Internet and bloggers.. for now...
Curtilingus @ 42:
VERY WELL STATED!
The MSMCORPORATIONS/SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPSPOLITICIANS
This relationship is why there will seldom be any substantive change for the good of all people as a whole will ever take place under the system they've created.
Thankfully there's still the Internet, independent websites, and bloggers... for now. They're the ones that will do the real investigative reporting and ask the important and probing questions... they're the ones that will then spread their findings until the establishment can no longer ignore the "buzz" and are forced to report it or look like worse idiots than they already are for dropping the ball so many times...
This interview was a NEW LOW for Chris Matthews and Hardball. I started out with a bit of curiosity... Why Judy Miller??
After a couple of minutes I had to go to CNN... Matthews and Miller were pathetic. I couldn't watch.
For tweety, drool and try not to lick the screen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IV9an1EE9M
After Judy Miller sold the war with lies she continued the tradition and went to Iraq and told more. According to the book Fiasco, she pissed everyone there off and then she got fired when they discovered she was full of it. How that makes someone a hero is beyond me. There is a new video on my website about a new kind of press. It's called Real News. Check it out and let us know what you think. I personally can't wait. No sponsers. No Bias. No bullshit. I love it.
These guys are so anxious to stay in the Beltway clique, they never even think about the collosal arrogance of such remarks.
"You are a woman to be trusted with secrets"?
Why does this man have a job?
Why?
http://openlettertochrismatthews.blogspot.com/
his ratings suck and so does he
two weeks ago, it was adam's apple annie. yeeeccchhh!!!!!
Harry lives.
Court of Progressive Justice @ 23:
sounds more like he was soliciting, but his wife watches the show.
So what's the problem with protecting your sources again? What's good for Josh Wolf isn't good for others then?
GAG ME!
That was the most pronounced case of public ass licking that I have ever seen. I couldn't watch it past the second fawning compliment.
speaking of lies...
U.S. Says Insurgent Leader It Couldn’t Find Never Was
By MICHAEL R. GORDON
Published: July 18, 2007
BAGHDAD, July 18 — For more than a year, the leader of one the most notorious insurgent groups in Iraq was said to be a mysterious Iraqi called Abu Omar al-Baghdadi.
As the titular head of the Islamic State in Iraq, Mr. Baghdadi issued incendiary pronouncements. Despite claims by an Iraqi Interior Ministry official in May that Mr. Baghdadi had been killed, he appeared to have persevered unscathed.
On Wednesday, the chief United States military spokesman here, Brig. Gen. Kevin J. Bergner, provided a new explanation for Mr. Baghdadi’s ability to escape attack: he never existed.
Two questions.
How stupid is Matthews?
How stupid does he think his viewers are?
Although the press is doing an awful job of late, it's important to remember that keeping confidential sources confidential is an important right of the press, and one that allows for, for example, whistleblowing. Unfortunately, in this case it was used to advance the position of those in power, rather than for its intended benefit.
Ooooooooh look!... Those scary guys on the Monkey bars, and balance beams...
Are you fraid?!
We need a meteor strike ....a big one...
These scum just never stop...
The russians looked all kind of stupid when they invaded Afghanistan and lied about their 'mission' and purpose and their soldiers suffered immensely from under-equipment, under-supply, etc., so much like what we are doing.
whizkid @ 65:
he does not care. he's having a great time.
boy do I hate Tweety. keep em coming jackass!
To be fair to him, I don't think he realizes some of the things he says are misleading and/or untrue. He's not really a liar, he's just dumb.
I don't say that in a mean way, as an ad-hominim dimunition or insult, I just mean it literally. The man isn't smart. He's of notably below average intelligence. He can't keep up. He hears that judy miller went to jail for not giving up a name and thinks to himself "oohh, brave".
I frankly have no clue how he ended up with a TV show. I guess because he's loud obnoxious, and mildly amusing. A tele-jester of sorts.
I suggest we all start mailing him shiny baubles to distract him and keep him off the air.
He lost me with the Coulter Fuckfest.
Chris doesn't care how many people were killed and maimed because of Judith's lies. He's a starf---er
Why pump the self-righteous indignation?
Ignore Mathews. He's a shill and a dope and not to be taken seriously with the very important issues of the day.
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Tweetie has a deep and abiding respect for women who have affairs with the "big boss" in their organization.
TuckerMathewsDid anyone check judith's feet for aspen roots? I here they are still connected to the Libby... better yet, check the feet of Mr. Matthews...
yah know if i were a real terriorist with brains , i would destroy the whitehouse and that big domed building where our slime ball politicians make their lobbiest deals at, makes more sence then blowing up two shitty buildings in new york!
abarts @ 76:
At least tucker carlson has a position and -tries- to express it consistently and coherently.
Matthews just seems to fire off at random on whatever flutters across his field of vision from moment to moment. All he can express is whatever the last thought put in his head was, and he adheres to it religiously until his attention span wanes and he hears something else to start repeating. I don't think he's fully aware of the things he's saying half the time.
Here's a little feedback I received from ABC(via email) about last nights misreporting by Diane Sawyer for those interested. It's strange how it laid out after a copy and paste, and they just leave the Dear,blank.
Would make for a good
correctionpost.Dear ,
Thanks for sending us the feedback. We read every piece of information
we get from our users, and will forward your contribution to the right
people here at ABC News. Please stay in touch.
Sincerely,
The ABCNEWS.com team
Dear ,
Thanks for sending us the feedback. We read every piece of information.
wWe get from our users, and will forward your contribution to the right.pPeople here at ABC News. Please stay in touch.Sincerely,
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This is my Corrected Version. Suck it ABC.
A little info on the Manhattan Institue, that she was writing for:
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45c/180.html
Despite her political leanings, she went to prison to uphold her first amendment right to free press. Unfortunately, this is a problem for Americans, we only want free speech/press when it suits our ideology. She preserved a fundamental freedom, the freedom not to give up a source. Remember this can be used by both republicans and democrats in order to preserve independent journalism (which the US lacks, i.e. Fox and Murdoch)
If I were a terrorist, I would undermine national security by exposing the undercover agent working for the govt.
I guess one man terrorist, is Chris Matthew's hero!
tweety is so f*cked up in the head, it's hard to keep track of where he is going sometimes. This twisted shill of a journalist can be his "hero", cause it certainly doesn't take much. He's such a screwball. Why do the insane have "host" positions in the news today? Christ!
Judy Miller's a hero and I'm a warlock.
Dear, Lordie Bee Dee! That whore needs an enormous purgative to flush her of all that whoreshit she's spreadin'.
Sure. If Chris gets all hot for Pres. Chimpy in a codpiece...why not?
He thought he was talking to book-sellin' hero Ann Coulter.
Chris Matthews is an excellent example of the banality of evil.
The definitive example, of course, is George Bush.
Tweety Turd's crusade is the lying in the run up to the war and he gives one of the main culprits a pass???
Can he be that stupid or does Judy Kneepads have something on him?
“You are a woman to be trusted with secrets”?
If it's not on the record, DON'T PRINT IT, INVESTIGATE IT.
STOOPID.
tweedy feels sorry for judy and scooter. disgusting .....what a whore
I hate (not!) to go there but who is sitting on the sybian and who has the remote control?
Define:Extremist Muslim.... see Saudi Arabia Wahabi
judith miller, as scribe and accomplice, is two degrees of seperation from cheney=that makes her evil
tweety is an idiot3 cubed.
that exchange was absolutely moronic and the pass on libby is preposterous...oh, and yeah tweety can chuckle how he has sympathy for lil'
scoots. it was shameful.
[...] if it’s wildly self-serving spin, had her on his show and called he a real hero (the video is here) – but anyone with half a brain holds her responsible as one of the key people in the selling of [...]
They are banging each other, obviously. Or they have the same publisher.
Wow, after reading this i'm nerver gonna watch Chris Mathews - but then again i don't have a TV so i'm not likely too...but i was again reminded how much of the war consiracy = war profiteer the NY Times was and is. i puke on the Halliburtons and want them tried for war crimes against humanity and sent to the gallows... but somehow don't want to credit the NY Times = that i read on-line daily for yearssssss is also culpable and enriched themselves with their misleading articles and for sure "their' occlusions !
Miller makes my skin crawl. I'd like to put her and Coultergist in a cage with just enuff food for a week... sorry no videos!
tweety has lost the few remnants of balls that he had. Lately his horniness is getting the best of him. I used to enjoy watching him but not anymore, he is becoming the new Larry King. Whats the matter with all these a**holes? are we wrong? are they right? I know they are not but whats the matter with the press these days. I bet in couple of years when God willing will have a Democrat in the white house all these a**hole all of the sudden are gonna be tough to the new president. I think they are afraid of Dick chenney and they figure he will not be in office in less than two years.... so lets not make any waves.
I killed my tv 10 years ago so I only know Matthews from the blogs. Why oh why can't we do something to take him down? My interest in TV is taking down punks. How do we down this piece of shit clown?
What is up with this guy?? It was like Matthews was channeling Merv Griffin and Eddie Haskell on this one. "Oh Judith, you are just sooo...TOTALLY WONDERFUL!.."...slurp-slurp-creep-crawl.
Afterward, it left me with the effect I'd probably have if I'd watched porn that featured nothing but coerced, starving people: I walked away feeling wretched and dirty simply by virtue of the fact that I'd been a spectator.
Is it enough, well who knows?"
However if a bomb specifically designed to take me out Chris did, well I'd say I got what I deserved!
I keep having this vision of Benito Mussolini and his mistress Clara Petacci hanging upside down in The Piazalle Loreto in Milan. Il Duce and Clara keep morphing into Chris Matthews and Judy Miller. Kinda warms the cockles of my heart.
Tweety chirps in whichever the direction the wind blows. He grovels in the presence of whomever he thinks is on the winning side.
I tune in occasionally just for the entertainment value -- as opposed to News.
Journalistically, he's a joke.
Patty-Cake Patty-Cake Did We Mis The Hardball?
No Hardball from Chris Matthews. This was the softest interview I have scene Matthews do. In essence, Judy Miller came on his show just to tell us be hopeful Iraqis will one day be like us.
I know this: After what US has done to this country and it civilian population, An Iraqi would be a dam fool to want what we have. I say put Miller back in jail.
Joseph
Herb @ 104:
jokes are funny or have a punchline...this was pathetically nauseating.
Jesus... I'm sorry I watched the whole thing. "We face dangers everyday...We fly in airplanes...we drive cars on a daily basis..." Tweety, you are an idiot. And Judith? Please, don't hold your breath waiting for the medal of freedom.
These two fools think that we live with terror everyday? As if 9-11 happens every month here in the US...I suppose if the decider stays the course much longer it could happen, but why are the MSM and the talking heads and the neocons beginning to ratchet up the fear rhetoric again? Do they really think Chertoff and his gut are on some Nostradamian scale? I just wish they'd realize that, while all's quiet on the western front, save for fools using fear as a political tool, it's boiling over outside of our happy little green zone...
Anyone have the phone number for Hardball producers in DC?
[...] Chris Matthews calls Judith Miller a hero. And suddenly a lot of things become a lot clearer. [...]
Faulty Logic
Is it me, or does it appear the further we get away from 9/11, the more the Republicans want us to be afraid? You recall the old saying: if you pour water on dried shit, it still has it original aroma? Well guess what every extended claim Al Qaeda is knocking at our door ready to do the Bin Ladin stinks plenty. This fear stuff is having the opposite affect; I now laugh when I hear them insist we should be scared; very scared.
Joseph
I'm sure all the proper officials told you exactly what they want you to hear. Slut.
Miller was not protecting a source. She was protecting a later convicted criminal.
miller is a hero to exactly 3 people in the press
tweety and the two hacks that wrote "game of shadows"
miller is not a reporter, she is a shill for the bushies
my god, everything she was spewing was right out of their playbook
If Judith Miller is a "shill for the bushies", then so is Al Gore, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, and plenty more.
You see, Democrats were saying Saddam was a threat long before Bush was fairly elected in 2000. In fact, John Kerry made a speech on the floor of the Senate in 1997 discussing what a threat Saddam was and how he needed to be removed from power. Al Gore, in 1992, sharply criticized the first Bush administration for not doing enough about the treat Saddam posed with WMDs, nuclear weapons, and links to terrorism.
You left-wingers are living in fantasy land. Keep lying to yourselves, it won't change the facts.
DFAL is right about Gore. Here's his 1992 speech on YouTube.
Further, the Mossad declared in 1990/91 that Saddam was the new enemy of Israel. That's the genesis of that.
In this televised speech Gore refers to the Klinghofers and the Rome airport bombing.
Ahhh, what a difference 15 years and the internet makes. Now we know from former Mossad agents Victor Ostrovsky and Ari Ben-Menashe, those two events were Israeli false flag operations. I believe it was Ostrovsky who was personally involved with the Klinghofer event, where they threw the wheel-chaired husband off the ship. Ari Ben-Menashe is said to be 'discredited'. Robert Parry [consortiumnews.com] said that Ben-Menashe was purposefully ruined after his appearance before Congress detailing his part in the Iran Contra affair in which he fingered GHWB and our present Defense Sec Gates, among others, at the secret Paris meeting Parry later wrote about. Of course, the excellent Bob Parry was discredited after writing "The October Surprise" and was forced to leave Newsweek and AP. For those who dont know about Parry he accidentally came upon the motherlode of classified documents about Iran Contra hidden in Capitol Bldg. basement room that were about to be thrown out. In 1994, I think. Along came the web and he could write about it.
In this 1992 speech, Gore was doing Israel Likudists' bidding. And all of this is googleable. Now, of course, Gore is aflame with global warming and carbon credits. He owns the carbon credit company he wants to saddle us with, based out of London. He's involved with Maurice Strong (Canada). So he wont be returning to the political scene any time soon. He's going to clean up (pun intended) instead.
Brandon Potyrala @ 83:
No she did NOT protect a fundamental freedom! She abused one!
Protecting a whistleblower who leaks government wrongdoing is worthy of going to jail for. Protecting a self-serving mafiosi who leaks the name of a "rat" (for example) getting the informant killed would not be.
When there were self-serving "leaks" from the administration about WMD that Cheney and other WH liars could refer back to on the Sunday morning talk shows, those leakers should have been identified in the interest of journalistic integrity. Judith Miller covered up for a traitor who blew the cover of a CIA agent and her entire network as an act of political revenge. This was treason and an official leak.
The same rules do not and should not apply as would apply to a whistleblower revealing wrongdoing. Remember that no wrongdoing by Mrs Wilson was ever even alleged. Protecting a source who's only intent is to smear a political opponent while harming who knows how many innocent people is dispicable as was the traitor who may have gotten innocents killed, simply because they worked with a CIA agent some traitors wanted to smear.
Mark @ News Corpse @ 48:
PS
That leak amounted to official oppression. Ms Miller is despised by all real journalists everywhere. I am glad she went to jail; I am only sorry the charge wasn't "abetting treason."
The Libby case is over and done with. Miller CAN talk about it. She CHOSES not to. And Matthews buys it!
DFAL @ 115:
Wow, where to begin. Everyone was saying Saddam was a bad guy. NOBODY ever said he was going to invade the US, or send terrorists to bomb us, or use non-existant WMD in a world terror plot. Got it? Can you remember back that far? Seriously, I doubt it.
"before Bush was fairly elected in 2000" who the fuck is living in fantasy land? We've had 2 elections and chimpy didn't WIN either of them. His brother knocked 95,000 democrats off the rolls in FL. And Blackwell was able to report results in OH that were so far from the exist polls, that only a repug would believe them.
Here is Kerry's speech from 97.
http://www.nationalreview.com/document/kerry200401261431.asp
I suggest that if you can, you read it. NOWHERE does he say the US should invade Iraq; quite the contrary. He recommends having the UN direct actions against Iraq and the US follow the UN directives. He suggests reconnaissance flights and cruise missile attacks against military targets. Maybe your feeble mind can find the part where he says we should invade the country and leave all the ammunition unguarded? Where does he say we should protect the oil fields and disband the military? I missed the part about torturing men, women and children. I guess he forgot to suggest we should lose $7 billon in cash.
The fact that you try to compare Cheney/Bush and their stoogies with anyone else shows you have little or no honesty or intellect. You are not only lying to yourself, you lie to everyone else. We know your kind here. We know that you and your ilk don’t give a shit about this country, the troops, or the damage you wreak across the globe. You sick fucks care for one thing and one thing only. MONEY!
Go sell your twisted, fucked up view of the world somewhere else. I know about 23% of the population dumb enough to buy it.
Stop watching cable infotainment.
Yes, those guys dressed in black swinging from monkey bars are soooooo scary, and the balance beam!!! Oh, God, they're using balance beams too! What's next--the uneven parallel bars? Say it isn't so! Let's hope they aren't doing push-ups, squat-thrusts, and jumping jacks, because if they are, we are DOOOOOMED....
The bought-and-paid-for media's message is "be afraid all the time--there are al Qaeda cells in your neighborhood just waiting to get you."
Why all this love, by the media, with Miller, Novak and Coulter? MSNBC are falling all over themselves with these idiots, calling them heroes and giving them credibility(via Matthews and Scarborough), when both were lepers, not so long ago.
Oh yeah, Book sales.
what LS said....
these times demand that everyday folks dig a little deeper....reading blogs is a start, participating in threads a start....becoming familiar and more comfortable with the complexity of issues, and not insisting in our minds that it be reduced to some idiotic sound bite answer. And start becoming more familiar with the notion that it will be a miracle if in our lifetimes we are not faced with all the consequences of this orgy of hegemony. Not the least of which will be our needing to actually practice civic duty. That means caring about others at least as much or more than we do for ourselves, a willingness to listen, and a commitment to dialogue. Judith Miller and Chris Matthews are a product of our culture...change is coming, but the old ways will put up a very good and well heeled fight....but they don't have the numbers.
Aside, of course, from Richard Milhous Cheney and Karl Rove, is there any American better suited for year-long waterboarding than Judith Miller?
JustSickOfIt @ 120:
Oh yes, somebody did. Al Gore did in 1992. Watch him say it here. One of his sources? Richard Perle. Duh. And unsourced memorandum. Duh. And he repeated the phony Iraqi gassing story that we subsequently hanged Saddam for. You can watch Army War College Professor and CIA senior policy analyst Stephen Pelletiere, who was in charge of Iraq at the time, diss the phony gassing story here starting at 5:11.
Scratch my back please.Judith Miller mouthpiece for the war in Iraq.Judith Miller's mouthpiece lawyer Floyd Abrams.Floyd Abrams father of Dan Abrams news director of MSNBC.
Does GE/NBC realize what an idiotic clownact is is prtraying itself as by allowing this cretin a forum?
dfal@113
"You left-wingers are living in fantasy land. Keep lying to yourselves, it won’t change the facts."
You sir are a troll. I stopped by your little wanabe site (even your name is wanabe...dirty frauds and liars) and found it full of hate and mis-information. You suscribe to the theory that if you keep telling the same lie over and over it will somehow become truth. Hey but you gave me a good laugh.
Whether you hate her or disagree with her journalism or not is really not the issue here. The fact is she stood up for her 1st amendment beliefs. A journalist should be able to protect their sources, even if their sources are sleaze bags. People complain about how watered down and useless the media is becoming now. Well imagine if reporters have no protections at all! If she hadn't stood up it would have been a serious blow to journalistic powers to protect themselves and their sources which would lead to less leaks from whistleblowers who actually believe the administration (any administration) is doing things that are damaging to the american people.
You folks who are sticking up for Judy Miller:
The fact that she was willing to go to jail to protect Scooter Libby is the least of her offenses. Sure, let's go ahead and argue that it wasn't an offense at all, if you'd like. The FACT is, Judy Miller was one of the primary sources of disinformation to the American public regarding the Iraq War. The White House supplied her with BS and she reported it like a dutiful shill.
...And WTF does any of this have to do with Al Gore? You trolls can lie and obfuscate all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that Dick&Bush are the only ones stupid/selfish enough to actually do the f*cked up deed. THEY DID IT. Not Gore or Kerry or whoever TF else you want to bring up.
Judy Miller a hero? A journalist who protects a whistleblower from retaliation by keeping his/her name confidential is called a hero. A journalist who protects a criminal's identity when the crime is the leaking of the information is called an accomplice and a co-conspirator. I know the difference. I used to be a reporter and now I'm a prosecutor.
As for Tweety? He's a psychophant. (sic)
lane @ 130:
That comment is total crap. For proof, I refer you to my comments #115 and 116. The self-serving leak that likely caused innocents to die and outed not only Ms Miller but her entire network and the cover operation was treasonous and had absolutely nothing to do with whistleblowing. It was simply treason by an administration that feels itself above the law.
Larry:
Whistleblower's are generally all breaking the law by leaking secret/protected material. I have no doubt in my mind that Libby deserves to be behind bars, but I also believe that Journalists sources should be able to be protected (within reason, of course) so that we can continue to find out what these corrupt officials are doing behind our backs.
UnEasyOne:
I guess the only real answer to this problem is to leave it up to the discretion of the journalist, not politicians. I have very little faith in politicians and think them limiting our rights even further would be a bad thing.
has anyone else noticed that matthews , who is nothing more than the results of an enema, has also tried to rehabilatate , of all fucking creatures, ARMSTRONG WILLIAMS in the past two weeks. yep, this cumslut for the repiglican party has actually had on this bush paid off 'jouranlist' on twice in the past two weeks.
Judy Miller is a traitor.
She wasn't protecting a low-level flunky or a whistle blower, but government officials bent on leaking misinformation and propaganda.
yeranalyst @ 103:
Kinda warms the cockles of my BLEEP.
DFAL @ 115:
I don't know what's wrong with posting -- below is my response to "DFAL"
Hey Genius — why don’t you post what your favorite fellow reichwing hate sites charge for their ads? Typical hypocrite!
I'm taking bets that Judith Miller has a book deal going with the same publisher as Matthews and Ann Coulter. It's about book sales, stupid. Judith Miller is as guilty as Bush /Cheney for force-feeding lies to the American people to sell this lie of a war. She shot her career's credibility to be an "insider" to this White House. Well, she'll be on the cold outside forever now. And Matthews is having memory problems. Years and years as chearleader in chief for the Bush crowd, with no scrutiny, showed him for the syncophant he is. He had the bully pulpit and frittered it away with his compulsive ego needs, and should be fired.
lane @ 134:
Jane,
Al Gore, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, and plenty more.
If you read the actual quotes they tend to speak in past tense. Afterall, there's no question that during boosh I's term Saddam slaughtered the Kurds with chemical weapons Reagan/Rumsfield sold him. No one was sure what weapons he had left, and were calling for inspections, not war. Finally, David Kaye was inspecting successfully and not finding any WMD's, and that's when boosh rushed the road to war, because his rationale was unravelling.
Nothing dumber than a smug Neocon thinking its above all the people and basking in its rightness.
Jane: My point is that, while whistleblowers leak secret information, they are heroic, as are the reporters who protect their identities, because it's in the public's interest to know that information, i.e., the Pentagon Papers. Judith Miller's protection of Scooter Libby is exactly the opposite. Scooter's leaks to Miller were not in the nature of public service. Quite the opposite. Scooter's leaks were crimes meant to chill those who would contemplate exposing the lies that were used to build public support for invading another country, one that had nothing to do with 911. There is a significant difference. In general, I support reporter shield laws. I think they are valuable in bringing forth information the public needs to know. I do not, however, believe the protection should be absolute. As in the Libby case, reporters should not be shielded from protecting lies.
Judith Miller's a hero? When did she grow a penis? Must have been while she was in jail!
“DFAL”
shit, i just realized that i was nothing more than a hemmroid on asshole of my fuhrer: bush ........ maybe that's why my greatest fear is preparation h ...... yikes ...
Larry:
I agree that her protecting him went against the spirit of any shield laws. Unfortunately, politicians are masters of manipulating words and legally I don't think you could protect someone who is protecting their source for 'good' versus someone who is doing it for someone who is not. In an ideal world you could, but in an ideal world you wouldn't have to.
Tweety being tweety & becoming more irrelevant every day.
Sigh, ok Chris, let's go through this one more time:
1) Protecting a source to preserve the integrity of a story - good.
2) Proptecting a source to perpetuate a lie and a crime that costs innocent lives - bad.
What are you not getting here?
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