Inside the Surge
My buddy Scarce found the companion video piece for the post Logan did yesterday with Spc. Gabriel Vassell
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Tell me if you see any Al Qaeda involved...I see a terrorized old woman, civilian Iraqis killed and injured, including children, and American soldiers living in such a heightened level of stress that it is unimaginable to me that the DoD thought it a good idea to force them into extended tours.
Is this the progress? Is this winning against the terrorists? Do we have them on the run?
I hope that everyone of those immoral "party-over-country" Republicans (Joe Lieberman, that means you) that prevented a vote for the Reed-Levin Re-deployment bill have to sit down and watch what they have condemned our troops to.
*Reed-Levin
Jeez, Nicole, that lady could be my Oma, or yours...she's somebody's oma.
You can't trust your own eyes. After all, Bush says:
"We're Making Progress."
I am so upset over these Republicans and this obscene beyond all words war....
We just learned that another young soldier from Ft Bliss has been killed ...it makes me so angry ...i don't know words strong enough to express my anger ...
but some feedback from some others ....please....I was thinking of starting a campaign..each time we have a military loss of people, each reported killing of innocent Iraqi women and children ...copy the story and email it to these republicans with the message ..their blood is on your hands......we can either email them or print out the stories and email it... and if we do hard copies then use blood red ink, lipstick, crayons to write the message
and if during the holidays any of the rethugs are speaking at some event nearby, gather friends and neighbors and go protest with signs that have pictures of casualties with the message: Their blood is on your hands ...
I wish all these so called bible believing Christian rethugs would recall that verse: And with whatever measure you use, so shall you be judged.....
Here is the cut down ABC News Version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1knqJ5QS_g
There is also a follow-up video regarding the ABC News version that is
pretty sad:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/18/81537/6189
"Is this the progress? Is this winning against the terrorists? Do we have them on the run?"
Is this what you think of when you think of combat, from your civilian perspective, of course. Maybe you could use a bit of experience in some of the subjects you pontificate on.
Problem for me is: probably before the troops can safely be removed, considerable ground work should be done. This requires (1) acknowledging that our troops should not stay forever (2) actively looking for non-military solutions and (3) diplomacy.
I expect the WH to do none of these things. Hell, the administration resisted all talks of benchmarks by which progress (or regress) could be measured. The situation is getting worse, the WH has no realistic plans to reverse the trend and I doubt has any contingency or alternative strategies.
Prediction: the GOP senators will stand by the President until the situation becomes completely untenable (pick your image: mutiny? genocide? war across the Middle East?)
Oh my God. I am so ashamed of this country.
Hearts and minds my ass.
Old women can now blow up apcs? I mean, somebody blew it up.
If any senator doesn't see this, they are cowards. They MUST see this video.
Before the war they ran simulation wars to see what the outcome of invading Iraq would be. The results were exactly what we have now, but this was ignored. Recently they ran another simulation about what would happen it we pulled out. The results are opposite of what the republican propaganda machine are predicting. There will be bloodshed for a while, but not American blood. Nor will al Qaeda (in Iraq) follow us home. They would be kicked out of Iraq. Iran would not take over. Again they are being ignored.
Why are these things ignored? It's not just the complicit media that doesn't speak up. The Dems don't tell it like it is either. They stupidly keep falling into the trap of defending whatever mud the republicans throw when they have plenty to throw themselves. The difference being we have the truth that can be backed up.
John A. as per Bush: Major combat operations have ended.
This is an occupation. This is exactly what our troops are doing. Don't believe me? Ask them.
Until then, your patronizing attitude towards my civilian experience has no bearing on reality.
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You have to be a loyal Bushie to see the Al Kidas . . . . you mean, you can't see them?
Fuck solutions. Just get out. If our guys leave, that is that many less guns firing in Iraq, and that many less roadside bombs going off. We are not helping the situation. We may be delaying the Shiite powergrab, but we cannot stop it. It will happen. Better we leave and let the violence happen to them while we aren't there.
I wonder if the reporter had to smuggle that footage out of the country(hopefully not up is rear) for it to be seen. The way the wingnuts work I was certain that this type material would never make it out. I'm suprised.
great work camera guy
Nicole Belle @ 12:
You're (the left) the ones that always claim that ONLY those that have been in combat can send troops to war or understand combat. Now that someone that has been in combat QUESTIONS YOUR reality, its not fair. Hmmmm, no hypocracy here.
A Richard Head @ 16:
Notice the accent? I think this is BBC work. But why did ABC run it? Why aren't they being the complicit war cheering media they are supposed to be? Was this a local station that ran this?
Jackson @ 13:
Thanks for making my point for me, Jackson. Does that old woman terrorized with troops and dead taxi drivers on her front stoop look like AQ to you?
If you think that this is a way to bring democracy to Iraq, I have a bridge to sell you, cheap.
To arms!
To arms!!!!!!!!!
(Via Howard Kurtz) I found this CBS Public Eye post by Brian Montopoli pretty on target:
As David Muir reports, ABC News elected to air some graphic footage from Iraq on “World News With Charles Gibson,” including an instance in which “troops are seen watching a Bradley armored vehicle blown up by an improvised explosive device as six American soldiers died inside.”
Muir notes that hundreds of viewers e-mailed in about the footage, among them one who said it prompted nightmares and another who is the mother of the vehicle’s driver. And he writes: “Many of you criticized ABC News and said we were focusing only on the negative, and called it ‘irresponsible and cowardly reporting.’”
We here at Public Eye try to be open to different points of view, but it’s pretty hard to fathom how anyone could claim, from an objective point of view, that it is “irresponsible” to show the reality of war to the public. One might make an argument that children should not be exposed to graphic real-world violence, and that the footage was therefore inappropriate for a 6:30 show. But in a culture awash in violence marketed as entertainment, where action movies and youth-oriented music glorify violence and trivialize its consequences, that line of reasoning strikes me as pretty thin. If anything, the footage run by ABC News acts as a corrective – a reminder that violence, real violence, is something other than a series of cool explosions and Bruce Willis one-liners.
Jackson @ 17:
id give a months pay to find out what sewers you crawled out of!
Site Monitor: Unfortunately, tyree, Jackson is more interested in flame baiting than having a discussion, even though we've asked him not to. So we've sent Jackson to the penalty box until he learns some manners.
Nicole Belle @ 19:
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What powerful piece. This line struck me-8:40 "A young boy has shrapnel wounds in his face and body." I wonder how this young boy will grow up?
And Bush? What a powerful piece of Shit.
What, in the name of anything sane, is the bullying coward Bush, and his ass sucking Senators thinking? America will NEVER see this unless the Net is held free and equal, and if America never sees it, they'll keep having their Christo-Fascist College Repug rallies, voting for the murderous scum that are stealing what's left of our Nation.
OMG, Jackson, did you just suggest that American troops are AQ? Way to support the troops, big guy!
i sure hope these pricks are not expecting any cabbie to give them a ride in their cabs when they get back from their tour of subjugation of the iraqy people, these guys are just mercinaries!
Jason, I saw pics and story here first last night. Once again, C+L is well ahead everyone else.
Nicole Belle it's best not to feed the Trolls.
Jackson @ 13:
Exactly. Of course there are some al qaeda around. The question is how many and can the tribal leaders take them on and actually win, etc. Another question is how much damage can we actually do to them in this surge. Are we providing them live fire training just by playing this game?
As long as we are launching offensives, I feel much better than just having our guys ride around doing patrols. Al-qaeda is getting bloodied. The question is whether that makes enough difference to justify the cost. Will it buy enough time for the government? I dont have the answers to any of these questions.
Lets not pretend they arent there though.
After seeing this you must feel very proud to be american...
Jason Wolfe @ 18:
I believe the Gaurdian Newspaper in the UK did a ten minute long story for their website (the one above). ABC NEWs ran a story using some of the footage but compacted into a 4 minute or so segment, I think it ran on the national nightly news. The story got a huge response by the American public... so much so that ABC had a follow-up story, see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg3i4-W2JPE
ABC reports that the mother of one of the soilders killed in the bradley wrote in by e-mail and said "I'm the mother of the bradley you see upside down and burning... he was 19 years old and could see the futility of the Iraq invasion and occupation" ... the mother of the CPL Josh Lake (who is obviously suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) says, "he can't sleep because his body is so tense... he can't lay down... he lays there and his body just trembles..."
Another interesting story on NPR this morning described US forces securing an area and then having the iraqi forces move in to hold it. Just after the US forces left a large force of black-clad fighters (described as al-qaeda by iraqis and americans) ripped the iraqi force a new one.
What good is clearing (which US forces can do to a degree) if the enemy hides from US contact? Can the iraqis hold what we clear in some of these areas? Again, I dont have the answer.
Sorry, my last post is hosed, please delete it. I meant to say:
I am still amazed ABC ran this piece. I mean, I saw it at work and posted about it here and on Digg. I keep watching it, it makes my stomach churn with rage. I was against the war before I saw what it was doing to our troops, but now … Before it was just depression about how foolish our foreign policy had been, anger at how dumb our admin is. But when you see how it affects the boys on the ground, it drives me nuts. Usually I can maintain a distance between me and the news, and it doesnt bother me, just oh jeez, another bush fuck up, whatevs. This piece has pushed me over the edge. I hope our senators see this. I hope Harry Reid realizes, that he needs to be willing to sit through a 15 month filibuster next time.
sadAmerican the mother of the CPL Josh Lake (who is obviously suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) says, “he can’t sleep because his body is so tense… he can’t lay down… he lays there and his body just trembles…”
I remember the period of time following Vietnam that PTSD was beginning to come to lite and the neo-conmen were trying to weasel out of that, like they do with Clobal Warming. In effect..."it ain't happenin". When Agent Orange was exposed for the Cancers associated, those turds played it out as long as they could as well( I sense a theme).
It will take a Democrat to correct this problem too.
Sen Joe Lieberman and the citizens of Connecticutt say that these soldiers "volunteered" to do this job. No one forced them to do it. Joe says if they don't like it they can lump it! So there!
And the cheney/bush administration wants this to continue, as does the Republic Party?
I wish everyone who supports the continuation of the slaughter could experience first hand the suffering during just one hour of US torture, the loss of a limb, or the loss of a loved one. Death would be to merciful for these scum. They must suffer in the same fashion as those who are victims of their f**king war.
Not certain if this is OT but just another example of the crap going on over in Iraq. The article discusses American soldiers deserting to Canada. The reason one guy gave was that he thought he’d be building schools and help the Iraqis.
But once in Iraq, he was assigned to a "small kill" team that set traps for insurgents. They'd place a fake camera on a pole with a sign labeling it as U.S. property, giving the team the right to shoot anyone who messed with it. Burmeister, who provided perimeter security for the team, said he could never get over his distaste for the tactic. -- http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1184554523...
We used to see this kind of reporting on the Nightly News, back in the day when there was still some courage to be found in the newsroom, some integrity, some commitment to truth-telling. All gone. Long gone. Brian Williams and Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric should be ashamed to show their faces in public.
>Is this the progress? Is this winning against the terrorists? Do we have them on the run?
My only question is: When will Chris Vucovich enlist?
#31 Thank God I’m an Atheist Says:
After seeing this you must feel very proud to be american…
No, TGIAA, I haven't been for quite some time. What is done in our name often nauseates me. Citizens of other countries have a secret source of insight - travel. Traveling globally offers a little perspective, if one avoids the Int'l Corp Hotels and listens to what the people of the world honestly perceive about our behavior, foreign and how we even disrespect our own.
Sorry American Public you have no say in this Iraq War. The decider has decided and his henchmen you elected in Congress want this for America. They have decided and you can do nothing, nothing, nothing to stop it. You are doomed to hire another decider as your next President (i.e. Mitt Romney) because you like his makeup and hair.
Yep, Bush's surge is making steady progress.
We're progressing towards 4,000 dead Americans, 40,000 injured Americans, 1 million dead Iraqis and thousands of new terrorists taking up arms on the Iraqi, Pakistan and Afghanastin borders.
I'm sure the Iraqis are grateful for our help in liberating them. It could be much worse for Iraq, we could be at war with them . . . . um, nevermind.
BrettWe used to see this kind of reporting on the Nightly News, back in the day when there was still some courage to be found in the newsroom, some integrity, some commitment to truth-telling. All gone. Long gone. Brian Williams and Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric should be ashamed to show their faces in public.
True. The Media was once called the Fourth Estate. Not any more.
Yes, in my opinion this piece of journalism is one of the most important stories I've seen about the war in Iraq. I wish more people would highlight it. I wish more people would show it. I wish more people would blog about it. This is a sea-changing peice of journalism because it sums up the entire mess. Obviously, I was very moved by it as well. This is something that every American needs to see, (esp every American politican). This is only way they are going to understand the realities of war, but not only the realities of war, but the reality of the situation for our troops and their families. We are destroying the lives of many of our young men and women. They are going to suffer from PTSD and other problems for many years of their lives, even after this war is over and they get to come home. Its sad that the American media rarely shows the truth!! It was amazing that ABC News even ran this story, but remember it took a British journalist to bring it to us. There is a big difference, a huge difference between hearing some correspondent in Iraq blab about violence and actually seeing the war and what is actually happening to our troops in the field. The American media needs to be ashamed... they failed to ask the difficult questions before the war, and they are failing again, when it comes to bringing us the truth regarding what is going on now. I hope more reports showing the truth like this one make their way to the American people.
American media (stop following Paris Hilton around), and start reporting the truth. Get away from the dog and pony show and go after the REAL STORY. For once, be true patriots, have some values more important than greed and share price, and do your jobs in reporting the truth to the American people, so the American people can make informed decisions regarding the future of our nation.
Brett @ 39:
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Agreed, and those of us w/cable or satilite TV could add a whole host of other
entertainers(opps, I mean newscasters) to your list. They are all pathetic and
it is apparent they bow-down to their masters..News Media Corps...
That looks like some awesome progress!!
Can't they please keep down the noise.
I can't hear freedom ringing.
Mug That looks like some awesome progress!!
Yeah, progress sucks unless you're a Progressive.
/proud progressive
wingnuts don't know the meaning of Progress
Everyone wants out., the military wants out, three fourths of the country want out, why is it that half the Congress is so far behind the rest of us?
(There are many mysteries in this world, but one of the greatest is cruising along in the summer of 2007 and seeing a "W" bumper sticker..)
Liberal AND Proud @ 48:
But, according to bush-lite, we are daily making progress. If you listen closely you
can hear the bells ringing in head..or maybe that's marbles rolling around...certainly
there is NO brain up there.
Thank God I'm an Atheist @ 31:
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I'm an Agnostic. Do you think when our great Christian President stops having EVERYONE killed he will come after us?
His father, when he was President, said we should be thrown out of the country.
Bush may believe in God but he better hope that's all he has to do to get to Heaven, because he doesn't have a moral bone in his body.
war profiteers are making a killing in Iraq..
$600 to $800 for a simple hammer
$1200 for each toilet seat
$45 for every case of soda
$1 million dollars for every single bag of laundry..
some progress, huh?
sounds like the people who make those bradley fighting vehicles are also making money off of these guys too..
weapons makers, guns, bullets, armor, or lack of...
helmets, protective gear, water, food, gasoline, even the mail too..
they are making a lot of money off of our soldiers arent they?
There is an overwhelming concentration also, of private companys or mercenarys more than soldiers also.. wonder how much millions of dollars are being spent for our real soldiers out there?
Elderly women with walkers - if we don't frighten them there, we will have to frighten them here.
Cabbies who don't understand stop orders yelled in English by aggetaded guys with guns. What a surprise! Where are the interpreters? Oh yea, that’s right, they were discharged because they were gay
...make that agitated Whoa! more coffee.
military coup. regime change. done.
"We need a surge of facts." -- Snow
Well there ya go Tony. Slap that video and those pictures up on your new screens in the press conference room. Look! They didn't shoot the dogs.
My personnal feeling as a canadian is that the americain people are very nice people confronted with a huge problem. You have an administration that looks more like a dictatorship than to a legitimate government. You are confronted with the perspective of overthrowing your government.
You may have to the arms to do so and it's scarry.
You have my sympathy. If you really believe in your constitution and the beliefs of your founding fathers you have no way out.
That woman crying in agony of desperation, I've cried like that before, when the hopelessness takes over and all you see around you is darkness and despair. Did no one think to comfort her, place a hand on her shoulder perhaps, and say, "I'm so sorry." I hope they did, off camera.
I second what she cried out, May God have mercy on Iraq, and mercy on everyone caught in that vortex of blood and death created with malice and forethought by the neocons.
May God never have mercy on the neocons. Never.
Unspeakable senseless carnage and desperation. This has to stop.
[deleted] Sometimes I just get fed up and have to vent.
As far as whining about the neocons, sorry, its not just them. Its the bush team, the democrats, the gop. the media, the american people... All either gave the order, voted for it or said they agreed with it. You probably know democrats who supported it because the population sure isnt 75-80% gop. The sensible populations of europe were 90%+ opposed.
Its very likely that most of the people you know thought this was a good idea.
What country has killed the most people so far in the 21st century?
What religion has the most deadly fanatics, killers with B52s dropping cluster bombs on women and children?
Christian America is Evil incarnate.
Can you say Q U A G M I R E ?!
Get us the F-U-C-K out of I-R-A-Q.
I can't express... I just can't express.... how could anyone express???
Thanks fuckin W, thanks Rumsfeld, for your 'light footprint' strategy in Iraq. But let's call it what it really was, the Slow-Bleed strategy. The Slow-Bleed of American soldiers, given the exact same 'mission' as Vietnam- go out on patrol to draw fire so that we can find the enemy...
bubba @ 9:
Nobody has to be around to detonate the IEDs currently in use in Iraq. It's proven technology that can be assembled from fairly common components that can be salvaged from various articles probably found in most garbage dumps in Iraq. How well proven is the construction... it was good enough for MI5 during the Troubles in Ireland...
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/ulster/article320004.ece
Any high school upperclassman, or first year university student would have the technological expertise to assemble a three stage logical trigger mechanism to target something fitting the physical profile of a Bradley (or an M1) if they were motivated. The search of buildings close to the point of attack is a procedure trained into the military by rote... on the off chance that the device was detonated manually. If they are armed manually this could be accomplished by a spotter thousands of meters away with a transmitter and cheap set of binoculars.
The Special Republican Guard were dismissed along with the rest of Iraqi Army by the CPA at the start of the occupation. It was assumed that they were not technologically equivalent, or as well trained as America's own Special Operations Forces. It's possible that this could have been yet another failure by the Neo-Conservative "advisors" twisting intelligence to market a state of perpetual war.
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Jackson @ 13:
I seem to recall that the only casualties among the Vietnamese were all either NVA or Viet Cong... no civilians were harmed during this fiasco. There is nothing new here, only the same twisted, pathological marketing of War.
Please make it stop.
Please.
Wraith D'Ethereal @ 68:
The converse bullshit would be that we only kill civilians and that our troops have never even seen an al-qaeda operative, let alone an armed insurgent.
Wraith D'Ethereal @ 66:
Um, of course they didnt need to be there but they needed to be somewhere in the multi-verse. The snarky, "tell me if you see any al qaeda involved" with a picture of a burning apc just had me wondering who the op felt was behind it. Old women? The spanish inquisition?
not trying to be an ass to to C&L, I love your blog. But you guys need to be carefull about being ditto heads.
you posted this from ABC:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/07/18/soldier-challenges-bush-ill-do-...
but in this video the SPC Vassal CLEARLY says he will challenge anyone in congress. I am going to assume that this video is where the original quote came from.
Sounds to me like ABC is throwing bush under the bus.
please post a correction. 100% in accuracy and honesty is what sets us appart from the neo-cons.
shit I am sorry.
the soldier gives the same damn quote right at the end of the video.
dorian @ 72:
Don't know whats going on with congress and the troops but it appears thatt hey are holding them back from leaving due to low enlistment.......on a different subject whenever i ride the trains in NYC, people of muslim decent look at me strangely when I carry my Alice LC-1 backpack around....It appears many Muslim in the city are at a breaking point over the war, not that I give a crab above them or anyone thats not pro-American...
First...thank you Nicole. This is the stuff we should have been seeing all these years that our cowardice main stream media won't film, saying NO to the Bush truth block. As a vet my heart aches for the those soldiers who will carry fifteen months or more of that nightmare home with them to nightmares, physical abuse to mates and others, alcoholism/drugs, depression, and suicide and a VA system that cares less.
Next...keep in mind tha al CIAda never existed prior to its creation by the CIA after 911. All the talk we hear about it is meant to keep us in fear and to get ready for another false flag black op...Preatus gives his report in Sept. If it is "bad" Bush will have to pull the troops. So instead he and the team are "leaking" fear based rumors to set us the lie. You can't have a war on Terrorism, only a war on specific peoples. The patriot act says yelling at a cop is a terrorist act!!
August will be the most obvious time for the false flag event...some think on the 23rd for the NWO likes to use numerology 911, 7/7, etc. and significant astrological time (Leo into Virgo.) We can't stop in trying to be heard by all those who are asleep. Use the Internet as long as we can.
Wait a second, just wait a second.
What about all the GOOD NEWS coming out of Iraq!!?!?
I mean, there were some 16 million people (okay, maybe 14 given the number of refugees) who WEREN'T blown up today! A rousing success, if you ask me!
After watching this, *I* want to commit terrorist acts against the US, and I'm a fucking American. What can we expect from Iraqis/others who watch this shit?
It's a fucking disgrace. We've got what's coming to us as far as I'm concerned.
(Dear C&L, please don't give up my IP address when DHS comes knocking. ty)
bubba @ 71:
Thanks for clarifying. It's falls directly into line with the point I was trying to make. America is relying on the old Roman Empire strategy of overwhelming Legions and garrisons, totally oblivious to the fact that real warfare has passed them by. War, based on massed overwhelming firepower is totally useless against an enemy who may be carrying nothing more menacing than a backpack, a shovel, and a cell phone... and the will to strike back against the occupation.
This is modern warfare. Not massed armies facing each other across open country, but small cells of dedicated, motivated operatives living among the civilian population striking the occupying force without warning or mercy. The only option left to the traditional military is to accept the responsibility of committing genocide on the civilian population. From the point of traditional military operations it's a lose-lose proposition. If one civilian death inspires just one survivor to join the resistance, then where does that leave the American forces if the estimate of over an half-million Iraqi civilian casualities is even close to accurate. The Iraqis don't have to 'win' next week, next month, next year, or even 10 years from now. It's their country and they have all the time in the world to bleed the occupiers to death. Life in Iraq may be hell on earth, but it's their country and it will be taken back by the Iraqis.
Unless America is willing to either slaughter or displace half of the Iraqi population there is no military solution possible in Iraq.
http://www.amconmag.com/2006/2006_09_11/cover.html
How can I weep, and my fellow citizens, leaders, congressmen not weep? I pray that any of them will enjoy being swept away by "The Rapture" so that all the fucking two faced bullshit, fundy Christians will be gone and then, just maybe we can enjoy some peace on this earth.. Everyone is so out of touch with our men and women in the service and yet Britney, exploding steam pipes from the turn of the century and intelligence estimates of fictitious characters are the rage of CNN. Our country is so wrong now. I am so ashamed.
bilhelm-X @ 79:
Apparently they have heard you. How can they get "thousand" to go to DC and we can't?
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3427247,00.html
ej doyle @ 80:
murderers
Oh good God that was hard to watch. I truly, deeply sympathize for the soldiers in that video. You can only do so much. This is such a stark contrast to anything I've seen on C-SPAN (Lieberman comes to mind) that it makes me feel physically ill.
There was nothing about that video that wasn't pure insanity. That really doesn't give me much confidence in our military.
What Real Consequences Look Like
Raw footage. Proceeding to have a drink.
I bet the Dems will go ahead and pass a budget resolution to continue funding. Pelosi and Reid don't have the desire to stop funding it. NO ONE in DC gives a shit about the soldiers or their families. They don't care about anyone but the wealthy, after all, that's where the money is......
Notice the british accent of the narrator? Ever noticed that the evil people in Star Wars almost always have british accents? In fact, its quite common that the villains in entertainment has some type of foreign accent. So this video was made by evil people who wants to demoralize the American effort in Iraq.
Seriously though, the neocons are probably going to find a way to explain this away too, though i hope not in the idiotic manner shown above. The situation the American troops are in is just plain terrible. You know and see that these troopers are good people who are put in an almost impossible role. Makes me wonder what the heck Melanie Morgan and the Move America Forwards crowd is thinking with, because it simply can not be with their heads.
(Looks at the picture)
"Well this is a story all about how my Bradley got turned all upside down..."
Why? Are they running short of masturbation materials for the War-horny Republicans in the Senate washrooms?
bubba @ 62:
Screw the Gop AND the Democrats, anybody who thought this was a good idea excercised a lot of willful ignorance. Willful Ignorance. You have to purposely not recognize the horrible things that occur every time war is waged, the fact that there was no threat from Saddam, that in fact his dictatorship, bad as it was, was the only thing that kept a bloody civile war to start, and the only thing keeping Al Quesadilla out. You would have to totally laugh at anyone who brought up the point that we had 500,00 troops in a space the size of Rhode island during Vietnam and could not assert dominance in our occupation, so how stupid is it to assume we can do that in a space the size of California, with 160,000 troops, SURROUNDED by countries that are filled with youth that are streaming in to fight the battle against occupation. You would have to contemtuously scoff at those who asserted that we may have went to Iraq for oil!! "do you seriously believe Prez Bush would go into a country and invade for oil? and to benefit war buisness??" I want to ask " Do you seriously believe that he decided out of all the threats we faced as a nation, with Al Queasidillidalli in Afghanistan, with unsecured borders, with a nuclear capable North Korea, with genocide in Darfur, the grand plan of the president of our United States decided to start a campaign to Kick the dogshit out of the hornets nest?" Thats plausible. People who thought this was a good idea have had 4 years to realize our folly, and if our news media were the tool it is supposed to be, we may have realized this earlier. IT DOESNT MATTER WHO THOUGHT WHAT!!!!!!THOSE PEOPLE ARE DYING.
And They Wonder Why Iraqis Are Ungrateful
The going sentiment in our country is Iraqis don't appreciate the bondage we freed them from. As Bush put it: “We have given to the Iraqi people more than any other nation could ask for. We have stood behind them, we have deposed their dictator, we have given them free governance and a chance at a constitution and free elections.” Read it all for yourself.
How many times have I heard the "troops want to be in Iraq to complete the mission." We are making, when ever we can create it Fox news style, progress the media will not cover. Well a picture says a thousand words,and from what I scene, the words don't speak of gratitude. I don't know which hurt me most to see what is happening under our country's name or the feelings of shock and terror for those going through this supposed gratifying process.
If you ever wondered where the insurgents are coming from, don't let them tell you they are coming from Iran and the ever growing Al Qaeda -- the ghostly enemy no one has scene, but Bush and his intelligence swears they are growing exponentially. The insurgency is coming from Iraq as each killing like the one in the video creates its own cycle of revenge. When you kill the innocent, their Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, Uncle, Auntie and family pet become the next round of insurgents with strong motives to kill, yes you guessed it, Americans.
I have scene some footage coming out of Anbar Provence, and it too looks like an unfair killing situation we support. It surely is not as rosy as they try to promote. Bottom line, we need to get our asses out of Iraq for everyones safety.
Joseph
I'd just like to say something... I don't like the way in which this is narrated. We're told that the taxi driver died "because he failed to stop", as if that excused the actions of the American troops who murdered him. We then go on to watch them tending to the wounded after an explosion which the narrator fails to point out is the result of continued American troop presence in Iraq.
I'm honestly sick of hearing about how people sympathise with the troops, how they support or respect them. I also definitely don't want to hear about the couple of hundred dead British troops, or the thousand dead Americans. Those numbers are nothing in comparison to the half-a-million Iraqi dead. I have no respect and no support for any soldier who continues to serve this farcical invasion. What sickens me most is that when this is all over, the forgettable American dead will be remembered carved on granite in a nice park somewhere, while the slaughtered Iraqi civilians go forgotten under the rubble of their nation.
Someone said earlier that Bush believed in God. I disagree. God, like patriotism, is a hollow political promise. Just look at the Cremation of Care ceremony at the Bohemian Grove, where Bush and his father worship an owl god.
GOD DAMN IT!
I cannot even think straight after watching that!
OH MY GOD GOD DAMN IT!
That could be my grandmother oh my god!
BUSH HAS TO GO TRY HIM FOR TREASON AND GET THE **** OUT OF EVERY COUNTRY WE OCCUPY!
OH!!!!!!!!!!!
The goal is to dissemble the military that protects you and your Constitution. So the privatized warriors don't have to worry about fighting citizen soldiers. Really need to wake up. Smell the coffee, or you will soon smell the cordite.
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