July 18, 2007 11:50 AM
Simpsons Creator Matt Groening on The Daily Show: forbidden to satirize FOX News crawl
Matt Groening, the man behind "The Simpsons," sits down with Jon to plug his new movie, and reveals how FOX prohibited him from using the faux news crawl out of fear that it would confuse the mindless FOX News consumers.
Yes, on the ship of fools, all we want to do is is laugh while we watch ourselves sink.
When Krusty the Klown ran for Congress as a Republican, they had a hilarious version of FAUX news and their news crawls.
Oh, wow!
I can't want to hear the response given by the Culture Warrior from Levittown!!!
Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 1:
You begrudge us a laugh now and then? As opposed to wailing and gnashing our teeth 24/7?
Laughing now and then doesn't mean other things are not taken seriously. But without some humor, some laughter in life, you might as well crawl into a hole and die.
That reminds me, Fox News viewers are morons.
Montgomery Burns to Lisa
My god, are you always on?
Jon did not comment on the news crawl because there was nothing he could add to it.
I am now convinced that Fox News needs to be accompanied by a warning from the Surgeon General.
Jon Stewart is positive role model for men-children everywhere. :)
Laughing is the only medicine. D'oh!
Saw that segment....
Groening is a very cool operator....
Making fun of Fox under their very wing for many, many years....
That made my day!
And the statement about the faux noise sponge minions is not only hilarious it's true.
"...mindless FOX News consumers"?
I always see left-wingers criticize Fox News in that manner, yet I never see specific examples of what annoys them so.
Did Fox News knowingly run a fake news story with fake documents in a pathetic attempt to influence an election like CBS News did?
Well?
ticktock @ 9:
as long as fux is still making $$ Rupert doesn't care
Sure if your viewers are as brainless as Homer Simpson, but then again...
DFL, for your review:
http://www.janrainwater.com/htdocs/FoxNews.htm
How Bush's man at Fox News worked to shape the outcome of the US election
Matt Groening has done some great stuff but this whole contrived fox controversy makes him look like a fellow conspirator. He works for Fox and if Fox really wanted him to stop bashing them they wouldn't have let him go on Jon's show and do it some more. It's just publicity bullshit.
How many times did he have to force the issue before Jon picked up on it and let him continue the charade?
DFL @ 11:
Ok Bill..hows the loofah
I noticed that Matt brought up the Fox issue all by himself. Jon didn't mention it.
DFL...
yer right.
given that the average viewer of FOX is 70+ years old, they are competent to decide what is accurate and what is boneheaded drivel...
and I imagine many of them are laughing at what they deem as non-stop satire
Matt rocks
"Did Fox News knowingly run a fake news story with fake documents in a pathetic attempt to influence an election like CBS News did?
Well?"
Probably, but I do know they play wonderful tricks with their graphics like placing a "D" next to kid diddler Tom Foley's name on air. Oopsie!
It's nice to be able to laugh at something now and again... This the Groening Interview was a hoot! Last time I checked he was still doing "Life is Hell", too.
Just thinking... Maybe a "Mid-Day Happy Hour" built along the lines of your great "C&L’s Late Nite Music Club".
A life spent only on serious endeavors would be, IMO, a life wasted.
DFL, if you've truly never heard specific examples of what annoys the left about Fox News, you've got your head in the sand. Here's hundreds of specific incidents sof Fox News mendacity:
http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/search_results?qstring=&start_mont...
DFL @ 11:
Let's see, to being with: the frequent, daily "lies" told by Faux Noise people, such as
"O'Liely, Hannity, Brit Humm, Freddie boy Barnes, J. Gibson monkey,Charlie Krawmouth;
just to name a few. And, if not telling lies, their absolutely narrow-minded, biased
position(ALWAYS to the right) annoys me too. Further, they are an ugly group of
idiots, so with makeup, they still look like shit...I could go on and on and on about
Faux Noise and what annoys me, but I think you get the point..
DFL @ 11:
Yes. And here's a list, vetted by the media watchdogs at FAIR (Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting, founded by Jeff Cohen, who was employed by Fox for a time)
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=19&media_outlet_id=2
It's probably too scary for you to read, but you wanted some examples.
And the Dan Rather thing-not a fake, look into it.
DFL @ 11:
Really? You never hear any left-wingers cite specific examples? Then let me help educate you.
http://www.newshounds.us/
http://forum.newshounds.us/viewforum.php?f=1
I think you'll find all kinds of VERY SPECIFIC EXAMPLES.
...confuse the mindless FOX News consumers.
OK, that is downright hilarious! Not to mention, an oxymoron, too!
no audio in right channel. same thing happened with yesterday's clips.
HillCountryGal @ 26:
When "Fox News consumers" and "mindless" are used in the same sentence, the word I think describes it best is "redundant."
Hey DFL , sorry man. You asked for it.
But your Fox News bimbos are slutty looking. That's something to smile about, right?
Cheer up funny face!
Homer: Fox has quality programming.
Arthur C. @ 22:
Wow, that is some kind of l o n g list put together by Media Matters. Thanks, it'll take me at
least a couple of days to scope the ALL out. Lies and misrepresentation and distortion if Faux Noise
policy and goal...
Good luck edumacating DFL.
CafeenMan @ 28:
Well, that too!
:)
http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.angus-reid....
I think New Zealand has it correct here.
Perhaps, if we quit laughing at the misery our leaders inflict upon us, maybe - just maybe - we'll click the "Off" button on the remote control and actually DO something.
Anyone notice that Matt Groenig repeatedly missed the point?
If homer knocked up Marge in high school (or shortly thereafter) and is 38 now, that means he was roughly 17 or 18 at the time. Therefore, Bart should be 20-21 years old. This is why it doesn't make sense. Groenig still couldn't grasp that after multiple attempts, and thought that "not aging" explained it all away. It really doesn't matter, but I thought it was funny how dense he came across.
OOOOOO!!!...Fox News is the Boogeyman!!!! OOOOOOOO!!!
LMAO!
:-)
Fox is absolutely right to ban the news crawl on The Simpsons.
Remember that studies have shown that Fox News viewers are far more likely to believe things that are demonstrably false than viewers of other media sources.
Running a cartoon crawl on a cartoon show is just asking for trouble.
As much as I like everything Matt Groening has done, I would really like to ask him one thing. The Simpsons have repeatedly poked fun at GHW Bush and Bill Clinton, the latter while he was still in office. And by poking fun, I mean creating an on-screen character to play them, not just an obtuse reference to some hot-button political topic. But after 6 years, we still have yet to see George W debut on the show. My question is, why? Is Groening under a FOX directive not to do so, or are his politics showing, or what? Or are they all afraid of what might happen if they parody a president who is himself a walking, talking (poorly) parody of what a REAL president should be?
Jay: "OOOOOO!!!…Fox News is the Boogeyman!!!! OOOOOOOO!!!
LMAO!"
No, dumb A, they just work for the boogeyman. They're simply a bunch of bed-wetting party whores, but they get decent pay for it.
FAUX is helping perpetuate an unneccessary troop endangerment based on false pretenses, cheerleaded an impeachment for an indiscretion, and routinely act dismissive on possible impeachments for actions contrary to the Constitution.
And to top it off the "values" voters revere an Aussie who started the corporation after he got much of his wealth off of page 3 girls.
JayDee @ 38:
That would be an excellent question for the Simpsons staff. They were merciless to Clinton ("I've done it with pigs - honest to god pigs, I tell you!"). Yet not a peep on Bush.
HillCountryGal @ 33:
And Fox News is the oxymoron...
solid @ 39:
They did kind of sorta when they went through photographs while Homer was the Safety Lizard of him punching out George HW Bush, and georgie jr.
Although they didn't show boosh, they had a great episode where the Simpsons were jailed for hating America, after a temporarily deaf Bart, accidentally mooned the flag.
Do Moonies moon the flag?
My favorite part of that news crawl was "Democrats cause cancer?" lol
I meant hat for JayDee @ 38:
JayDee @ 38:
Yes, and not playing partisian politics, that question should have been ask by Jon Stewart
or and answer sought from Groening himself. Anyone know how to contact him, so that
we can seek a response?
Audio's been really crappy lately. Last couple of days I've only been getting sound from one side.
Do'h! Me loose brain? Oh Oh!
Hilarious that Faux Noise actually admits all their viewers are ignorant, uneducated, brainwashed morons, that believe any bullshit lies thrown at them.
Anyone got the problem I have? Any of the Comedy Central links, I get no audio. Links from other places work just fine. This true whether I use the Microsoft or the Apple link. Ideas?
Actually, one of the funnist put-downs of Bush was on The Simpsons, when Homer called him "President Koo-Koo Bananas" and wondered what other disaster he was going to pull us into.
I seem to remember a Simpsons episode from a couple of seasons ago where they satirized the Fox News crawl. I forget all that it said, but one of the items was "COMING UP NEXT: HANNITY AND IDIOT"
really fun segment. I don't think I've ever seen Matt do an interview before. This is one fool will absolutely be laughing his ass off when the ship sinks.
Umm. He may have been told not to satirize the Fox crawl, but you DO realize he was being sarcastic? right?
People might confuse the fake real news parody for the real fake real news (Fox News) as shown on the real fake news, The Daily Show. Or is it... wait...
wait... wait... okay.
Fox News = the fake authentic news
Daily Show = the authentic fake news.
The thing that gets me is that Groening just couldn't understand what Stewart was getting at about Bart's age. Jon wasn't concerned that Bart doesn't age during the program, he was concerned that AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SERIES Bart should already have been 18 years old because Homer was 38 and knocked up Marge at the end of high school! Groening heard Jon's complaint like four times and didn't get it! WTF?
/geek
JayDee @ 38:
While they haven't visually portrayed GWB, Homer did have one classic line about him that is definitely quote worthy:
"Yeah, and if you get kicked out of that school...
you’re going straight in the army,
where you’ll be sent straight to America’s latest military quagmire.
Where will it be? North Korea? Iran?
Anything’s possible with Commander Cuckoo-Bananas in charge!"
- Homer Simpson
Nice spot-I really dig the Simpsons and Matt seems like a cool guy.
DFL @ 11:
How about the fake 'Nobel Prize Nominee' Hannity had on to talk about Schivo, or the MANY Stories about how we DID find WMD in IRAQ? Need more? I've got hundreds!!!
If Faux News doesn’t knowingly lie, then why are all their viewers so misinformed?
Something thats been bothering me for a while...To all the people calling it Faux Noise, Stop It! I mean c'mon, its either Faux News or Fox Noise. Calling it Faux Noise is a double negative, making it sound almost like a legitimate news source.
Sticky @ 60:
Nah, Faux Noise is a redundant oxymoron!! :)
carn @ 35:
He grasped it and addressed it. Kinda.
He did point out that cartoons are wonderful because they don't have to age the characters. Y'know, the suspension of dis-belief thing.
Expect an episode, with Stewart guest-starrin', where they explain it all with a time machine.
lol :-D
Matt Groening is dense?!
Dude, it's a fucking cartoon.
I mean, nevermind the fact that they have only three fingers on each hand,
homer eats plutonium, Snake is always committing felonies but is never in jail,
The mafia, TV stars like McBain, Troy McClure, Krusty the Klown, and that Bumblebee Man
from spanish television all live in Springfield, not to mention countless celebrities that just happen to cross paths with the Simpson family. Red Hot Chili Peppers played at Moe's,
R.E.M. played in Homer's garage... and let's not forget Kang and Kodos!
I bet you watch Road Runner and coyote and go, "oh, right. As if!"
DFL @ 11:
You should see this:
http://www.outfoxed.org/
They have only gotten worse.
While Rather's document was forged, the story was still true. UNLIKE the forged Niger yellowcake document that Wilson tried to uncover and was subsequently punished for.
There are numerous examples that the leftwingers don't repeat ad infinitum because they are out there on the web for anyone with the curiousity to seek them out. To us it is simply common knowledge.
P.S. that was for carn
The Program on International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland conducted a thorough study of public knowledge and attitudes about current events and the war on terrorism. Researchers found that the public’s mistaken impressions of three facets of U.S. foreign policy — discovery of alleged WMD in Iraq, alleged Iraqi involvement in 9/11, and international support for a U.S. invasion of Iraq — helped fuel support for the war.
While the PIPA study concluded that most Americans (over 60%) held at least one of these mistaken impressions, the researchers also concluded that Americans’ opinions were shaped in large part by which news outlet they relied upon to receive their information.
As the researchers explained in their report, “The extent of Americans’ misperceptions vary significantly depending on their source of news. Those who receive most of their news from Fox News are more likely than average to have misperceptions. Those who receive most of their news from NPR or PBS are less likely to have misperceptions. These variations cannot simply be explained as a result of differences in the demographic characteristics of each audience, because these variations can also be found when comparing the demographic subgroups of each audience.”
Almost shocking was the extent to which Fox News viewers were mistaken. Those who relied on the conservative network for news, PIPA reported, were “three times more likely than the next nearest network to hold all three misperceptions. In the audience for NPR/PBS, however, there was an overwhelming majority who did not have any of the three misperceptions, and hardly any had all three.”
Looking at the misperceptions one at a time, people were asked, for example, if the U.S. had discovered the alleged stockpiles of WMD in Iraq since the war began. Just 11% of those who relied on newspapers as their “primary news source” incorrectly believed that U.S. forces had made such a discovery. Only slightly more — 17% — of those who relied on NPR and PBS were wrong. Yet 33% of Fox News viewers were wrong, far ahead of those who relied on any other outlet.
Likewise, when people were asked if the U.S. had “clear evidence” that Saddam Hussein was “working closely with al Queda,” similar results were found. Only 16% of NPR and PBS listeners/viewers believed that the U.S. has such evidence, while 67% of Fox News viewers were under that mistaken impression.
Overall, 80 percent of those who relied on Fox News as their primary news source believed at least one of the three misperceptions. Viewers/listeners/readers of other news outlets didn’t even come close to this total.
In other words, Fox News viewers are literally less informed about these basic facts. They have, put simply, been led to believe things that are simply not true. These poor dupes would have done better in this survey, statistically speaking, if they received no news at all and simply guessed whether the claims were accurate.
Oh, and carn... I left one out. Homer was an astronaut.
In a similar vane, my neighbors brother is an actor in New York and was in a crowd scene in the FX series "Rescue Me". He asked the producers what to wear in the scene and they said anything casual. When they shot the scene he wore a tshirt showing a picture of Dubya with the word 'Terrorist' in big letters above the picture. When Fox saw this they spent $60,000 dollars to go thru the scene frame by frame and erase the image on the ofeending tshirt, Nothing they do surprises me anymore.
Way to completely miss the point. I wasn't commenting on any aspect whatsoever of the cartoon. I was commenting on Groenig's inability to grasp the simple point that Jon Stuart was making.
More importantly, can Jon ask Matt to make his show stop sucking?
Space Coyote @ 55:
Since the
FoxFaux News "crawl" shows fake news items, for The Simpsons to do a parody of the "crawl" they would have to show real news items. AndFoxFaux News certainly can't take the chance that any of their viewers might actually see the real news by accident.carn @ 35:
Yea, he missed the point the whole time.
“…mindless FOX News consumers”?
I always see left-wingers criticize Fox News in that manner, yet I never see specific examples of what annoys them so.
Did Fox News knowingly run a fake news story with fake documents in a pathetic attempt to influence an election like CBS News did?
Well? "
Minus the documents, yes they did with the Obama madrasah "story".
That's "real, no-fooling pigs" BTW
Goof or not, props to the man who created the best show ever broadcast.
I didn't think Faux viewers could be confused much further than they already were. But, I'm sure Faux knows their audience. So now, for once.. I'll finally agree with their assessment.
I heard Walmart will only hire those who fail their employment examine. They are less likely to question not having benefits, overtime, etc., These have to be the same folks who are regular Fox News watchers.
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Aperturius @ 56:
I was hoping someone would mention this... Although if Jon would've explained it like you did, Matt would've got it.
bookon @ 59:
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