Kristol Mocks Dem Candidates Through Their Spouses; Declares Thompson's Spouse Off Limits
By Nicole Belle Saturday Jul 21, 2007 9:02pm
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What a smarmy hypocrite William the Bloody Kristol is. Never passing up the opportunity to dismiss the Democrats as lightweights, Kristol declares that FOX News should hold a debate of the Democratic candidate spouses, because they're so much more interesting than the actual candidates. But when Juan Williams points out that the "trophy wife" of the official GOP stealth candidate Fred Thompson should be included as well...well, that's just unfair.
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This man is a buffoon.
amazing they keep putting him on....
I am not a violent person, but I would purely love to smack that smirk off that SOBs face.
One of Time's star columnists is a raging Republican hypocrite? Wow, will wonders never cease...
How long until we get someone blaming Dem candidates for having such harpy wives or something empty and biased like that?
Kristol is a megaputz !!!!
Figures.
How does he talk out of both sides of his face with a dick in his mouth?
Kristol is an asshole, but I think what he was saying was unfair was calling Mrs. Thompson a "trophy wife" (which it damn sure isn't).
What a smarmy piece of shit, I would so love 5 minutes in a dark alley with him to wipe that smirk off his face FOREVER.
His voice is so damn condescending. I certainly hope he doesn't get throat cancer.
Only Fox would have this idiot on TV after his ridiculous column this week in which he says that Bush's presidency will be judged a success!
Fair & Balanced,(?) my ass.....
great clip... juan exposes them yet again as the dumbasses they are... these guys and their double standards... just when you think they can't drop any further below the bottom of the barrel, they prove otherwise.. heh
Bill Kristol was known as Quale's brain, need I say more?
Kristol is just sick, sick, sick. Fox News Distortion Channel is a good place for this type of wingnut.
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[Would you limit blogwhoring to the open threads? One goes up every evening. Thank you-Sitemonitor]
AND remember folks TIME MAGAZINE employees billy as a opinon contributor too.
Time mag? your time is up. come next yr, you can take your time international and shove it where time stands still
My dad is a Republican and (unfortunately) he's just like Kristol in this respect. He can make any tactless, cynical and/or condescending remark he wants to about someone else, but he has a tissue paper thin skin when it comes to taking a joke. Apparently turn-about is never fair play with conservative republicans.
Kristol is an idiot, but there is a qualitative difference between saying that Elizabeth Edwards is more interesting than her husband, or that Bill is a fascinating guy, or that Elizabeth Kucinich is beautiful...and calling Jeri Thompson a "trophy wife".
The former are legitimate opinions, the latter is an insult. It is unseemly, and more of the kind of MoDo/Queen Bee/Kewl Kids crap that is poisoning American politics. The nature of Hillary and Bill's relationship shouldn't be a talking point. Nor should the nature of the relationship between Dennis and Elizabeth, or Jeri and Fred. Their ages, their appearance, their hair, their smell...Lord! You'd think there weren't any actual, real, pressing subjects to be concerned about like say...
- Habeus Corpus
- Health Care
- Torture
- Debt
- Monetary Policy
- Darfur
- Infrastructure
- Free Trade
- Global Warming
- Energy Independence
....oh, and what was that other thing...hmmm...oh, yeah, I remember now!
The War.
kristol is like a dung beetle, except he swallowed and it became his brain.
I don't know what the uproar is all about; everyone knows IOKIYAR.
Talk about wearing one's partisanship on one's sleeve.
billy can suck my spiegle and hard!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,,00.html
and with that,, iam out!!
OH NEW EAGLE PICS ARE UP! at my blog, it was great too. hurry because one of the eagles flew off the other day and still there is the runt.
RUNT read it right!!
soon the empty nest is there and then ? sucks,, i have no more eagles to watch and worry over.
Take folks and have a good eveing .
Regards,,to you and yours too.
Friar.
Swashbuckler is right. I dislike Kristol as much as the next guy but he was disagreeing with the "trophy wife" comment, not that she shouldn't be in a debate. If C&L is going to continue to be relavent then you shouldn't bend the truth in this manner. There's enough legitimate stuff out there to be outraged at, don't resort to the tactics of the truth-haters that the supporters of this administration use.
I'm disappointed....
...but I still love you!
TAKE CARE FOLKS TOO!! lol,, dont tale folks,,
take!
OK Its time to get new script for contacts!!
BYE BYE !!
And, in a way, Kristol is right about this (I may be struck dead by lighting for saying this)...
One of the real markers of this campaign is the degree to which spouses have become involved. Everybody's talking about how Michelle Obama is Barack's secret weapon. Elizabeth Edwards is turning up as the spokesperson in her husband's ads and keeps popping up in the comment fields of blogs and on call-in shows. Bill is playing a subtle, but significant role in Hillary's campaign and it is increasing every week.
This is genuinely something new. I'm not talking about salacious gossip, but the legitimate and significant role that potential Presidential spouses are playing, even in the early days of the campaign. I'm not sure Kristol is wrong to say/joke that it would be interesting to see them debate. They are an accomplished group of women and men.
And i am supposed to care what the most insanely and routinely wrong "pundit" has to say on the faux news network this is a waste of space on this site.
With creeps like bill kristol who needs nazi's.
That face is as uncomfortable as I have ever seen that man look. He must know how bad he sucks.
What's the matter boys - can't sell your candidates for shit? It might have something to do with how bad they (also) suck.
So "trophy wife" is the new repiglican talking point in their desperate search to find a catch phrase that actually makes anyone of their pathetic plank of candidates seem presidential? Do they know how stupid that sounds coming from a repiglican? News flash you idiots - this one isn't going to do the trick for you either.
What happened to "can't you just smell the cigar and Aqua Velva" candidate? Now he's the "trophy wife" candidate? Don't make me laugh - I've seen her - she's pre-pubescent with a pair of implants and she's dressed for the prom.
Can you imagine that twit in the White House?
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Drew @ 22:
I agree, Drew. There's no shortage of Kristol stupidity out there. But taking stuff clearly out of context weakens the bite of legitimate criticism when it is warranted.
What distinguishes C&L, FDL, Atrios, the Agonist, etc from the Malkinian universe is an unwillingness to run with decontextualized smears.
Like I said on an earlier thread on Kristol, "Fuck him." To say anything more is just a waste of effort in this forum. Now if I were writing a response, say in the Washington Post, and my last name was Corn, well . . . there'd be so much material to draw on, it would be hard to decide what to leave out.
Court of Progressive Justice @ 27:
With creeps like Bill Kristol, we HAVE Nazis. Or Nazi-like types. More like plutocrats and cryptofascists. Plutocratic cryptofascists... JMHO.
Ah, but then it's a fine line, isn't it?
In Kristol's neocon cauldron of tragic fantasy, "fair is foul and foul is fair."
miss_kitty @ 31:
Basically, Kristol is a propagandist for the Right. He is shameless and will take any situation and spin like an insane top to try and make it seem like the Right is on target and the Left is clueless/dishonest/etc. Not a single word of honest discourse exits the man's mouth.
Trittydi @ 28:
I don't get it. She's older than Kucinich's wife, she has two kids, and the spread between she and her husband is less than between Dennis and Elizabeth. Both wives are pretty.
Maybe it's that the most widely circulated picture of Jeri is of her husband and her on the red carpet in Hollywood, and she is wearing a spectacular gown for the occasion.
Regardless, the leering, sneering comments are adolescent and insubstantial. Attack the guy for his inconsistency, his pandering, his laziness, his lack of policy...but leave his wife's dresses, breasts and the nature of their relationship alone.
Too much of this thread smack of Beavis and Butt-Head.
Maybe Kristol is right. Fox News shoud hold a debate with the Democratic candidate spouses. After all, one will be a first lady or in the case of Hillary Clinton, Bill will be the first man. Kristol may have tried to mock the Democratic candidate spouses but he just ridiculed the Republican candidate spouses by making them "off limits". In other words, he is saying if you vote Democrat you not only get a good President but an interesting and smart spouse as well. Vote Republican and you get a first lady who is uninteresting and dumber than a box of rocks.
Lobotomy?
Kristol's the king of the mouth-breathers. Thompson's married to a woman young enough to be his daughter and had many a fling in the 90's but we're not supposed to talk about him and pretend he's some neo puritan
It's time that somebody signed the commitment papers for William the crazed.
I’m sorry but I couldn’t agree with them more. It would be totally unfair because anyone who marries a stinking Republican doesn’t have a mind of their own and therefore would be incapable of participating in a debate. It would be very embarrassing for everyone involved.
jr @ 37:
Who is suggesting he is a "neo-puritan"? And what, exactly, is the definition of a 'fling'? If the unseemly interest in Clinton's sex life was creepy, does it become less creepy when our side engages in the same kind of slurs?
The day he says, "Men should only marry women who are less than 25 years younger than them!", then nail his ass for hypocrisy. Until then, leave his marital relationship out of it.
Kristol: "Talkin' smack 'bout the Democratic candidates' spouses is fair game, but talkin' smack 'bout Fred Thompson's wife is unfair."
God, what a lil' bitch. If only I could get one shot at him. *BAM* Right in the face!!!
The Champ is out.
I'm surprised he didn't advocate a military solution to this problem too.
Freaked-Out Canadian @ 25:
I came to the same conclusion that you did so your not alone if the lightning strikes. :lol:
There would need to be a bigger stage for all of Guiliani's wives
The problem with a GOP debate is whether the first wives debate the third ones.
i have an AXE to grind with bull kristol. it's will leave him in pieces and that's to good for him.
The title under his name on the screen should read "The Weekly Double Standard"
Joe O. @ 43:
You know, Joe. O, although I have seen individual articles detailing the roles of each of the spouses, I've yet to see any major coverage of this new development.
Because it is still the Primary, it almost feels like that with Obama, Clinton, and Edwards, you are voting for a team a la Prez&VP. It was clear from the beginning of Hillary's campaign that she would subtly suggest the 'buy one, get one free' angle, but now it feels like all three are playing something of a similar tune...maybe it is because of the irrepressble nature of their spouses, or maybe Edwards and Obama are trying to match the Clinton 'team' strategy, thus defusing it. A kind of, "my spouse is an asset too" campaign.
i mean really. the way bill kristol just acted...it was like some kind of stupid little kid who pretends like he doesn't know any better and you just want to smack him.
the continuation of this is beyond tiring. off with his head. (metaphorically speaking talking-head)!!!
um... much as i am disgusted by krisol, the objection "unfair" was aimed at the "trophy wife" remark ...
and maybe it was... boo hoo... good on juan for getting that in!
i've had enoug of kristol and hume. why don't they just get a room already?????
katy @ 50:
yeah the trophy wife remark was just to proletariat for kristol. (it hints that the republican party is like the springer show and that's something he will not stand for)
i love juan williams!
Freaked-Out Canadian @ 17:
if she isn't a 'trophy wife', then what is she? she's like 35 years younger then fred....and kristol was simply asking for it. and besides, juan's comment wasn't about the wife, it was about kristol and his hypocrisy.
lastly, we all have to keep in mind what type of people kristol and hume really are. they live in an extremely isolated strata of society. they are very, very wealthy. they are extremely conservative. and they have absolutely no connection whatsoever to the middle and lower classes (or the west coast for that matter).
Just watch Juan Williams back off his comment.
He doesn't even have the balls to stand up for what he just (correctly) said.
bill @ 54:
She was 35 when she married him. Hardly a child. He was 59. She is 40 now. He is 65. There are 25 years between them. They have two kids.
bill @ 53:
Blue Buddha @ 47:
Perfect.
I see this one is just as bad as Haloscan!
bill @53 says
i love juan williams!
I wouldn't be too proud of that! Juan has a tendency to roll over like Colmes.
trophy wife is a smear, theres really no doubt about that but Williams should have owned it and called Kristol out for his subtler smarminess with the democratic wives (and the hit that their husbands are essentially dull). It was obviously prepared shtick but its hard to out-smarm Kristol. He walks that asshole line with the best of them and Williams used what material he had at hand.
This little elitist little fucker needs a boot up his ass. I can't understand why he is still on. He's been wrong about everything he's ever predicted. What a little shit. Someone show his snarky little butt to the nearest recruitment station.
Freaked-Out Canadian @ 48:
It does appear that what you indicated is the strategy. In the larger context between the GOP vs. Democrat the two for the price of one strategy does have some pitfalls and maybe this is what Kristol was trying to imply. Right off the top of my head one pitfall could be that by showing your spouse off as an equal to asset. you the Presidential candidate run the risk of being overshadowed by your spouse at some point. Having an accomplished, vocal spouse is a fantastic asset but could be a hindrance if that spouse overshadows you to such an extent where you become irrelevant.
"Quayle's Brain"?
Why isn't that soubriquet better known?
"Quayle's Brain"??
The man should be a footnote.
"Quayle's Brain"???
Ohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygod.
I'm done. I can't bear anymore. I don't understand why so much of American politics seems obsessed with sexual innuendo. It's like being in the locker room with a bunch of sniggering schoolboys. There are days when I wish American public discourse would grow out of its adolescent phase.
Breck Girl, Clenis, Spandex Kerry, Old Spice and Trophy Wife, Obama/Osama, and Freedom Fries.
All of this would be fine if you were some tiny, silly republic obsessed with your own political soap opera. But as long as the US doth bestride the narrow world like a colossus, it would be nice to know that adults were running the show.
When your dad is the father of Neoconservatism, you're bound to be a bastard.
How about a "Chickenhawk Debate". Bush, Cheney, Lieberman, Kristol, Rove, Limbaugh, O'Reilly.....damn, you'd need Madison Square Garden to house them all....could all debate about who had the best excuses to dodge combat and who went to the greatest lengths to avoid combat. My my money is on 5 Deferments Dick http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/01/politics/campaign/01CHEN.html?ex=13988... as the overall winner!
if you go back and history and look at the times in which bill kritsol has been wrong and delusional, the question is why does this man even have a job in the media.
i think it has to do with professional wrestling. bill kristol is the randy savage of media punditry. and that's all there is to it. he does not give a shit about the troops, for him it's about face time and controversy. he's a traitor and should be treated as such.
What a simpering poltroon Kristol is.
No - The former are also INSULTS because they insinuate that the democratic candidates are dull and wussie. They are not overt insults. No, they are the kind of snarky little insults that need to be countered immediately. No more Mr. Nice Guy. No more pollyanna "can't we have a rational debate?" reasoning. That doesn't work with these guys. If it did, we wouldn't be in the mess that we are in. They don't play nice. Sure there are more important things to talk about. But Kristol and his ilk will keep harping on this kind of non-news and snarky little insults unless their hypocrisy is pointed out at every turn.
We should investigate this lying bastard.
Freaked-Out Canadian @ 17:
Agreed. Juan Williams must be getting really tired of his job. Of course, only on Fox would you get someone saying, "these candidates spouses are interesting. Isn't that a surprise?!"
Freaked-Out Canadian @ 25:
Don't give him credit for anything other than spinning propaganda.
Kristol's just trying push the Repub meme that Democrats are controlled by their wives.
That's how they try to appeal to the NASCAR dads and so-called "traditional" Southern women.
They did it with Kerry, Gore and they tried to do it with Clinton.
Make the wife the issue and the battle's half won in the South.
The Democrats are lightweights?? That's funny from a guy who's world view is so distorted and fucked up, he couldn't even make an accurate prediction about yesterday's weather. Take away the wingnut welfare provided by sugardaddies like Rupert Murdoch and Richard Mellon Scaife, and Kristol's a nobody who couldn't get a gig teaching remedial composition at the local community college.
Actually, I have an idea.
Presidential debate jeopardy.
Bill Kristol: pull the butt plug out so we can hear you speak coherently. Getting oxygen to the brain would also help, so the butt plug is out. Finally, we wouldn't have to watch you squirm and suck your breath in.
With this man's" smirking face and the logo in the lower left hand of this picture is all you need to know; no truth here, no predictions that actually come to pass. THe PNAC is losing clout and the NeoCons are sinking as fast as the SS BushCo.
Couldn't happen to a better bunch of scumbags!!
I'm gaining more respect for Juan everytime I hear him lately. Has he had his fill of this neocon BS??
Who is jerry thompson? She a hag, or the that fat buffoon get himself a 20 yr old recovered prostitute lately?
What a fucktard. Bill Kristol can't even get the Devil to return his phone calls.
By the way, good for Juan - you have to fight fire with fire when dealing with scumbags and bullies; otherwise, they walk over you even worse next time. He should not have backed down on his comment.
Freaked-Out Canadian @ 57:
If she looks like a trophy wife, talks like a trophy wife, and smells like a trophy wife... she is indeed a trophy wife.
I don't care about Mr. Thomson's bedroom antics, I however don't want to have a Presidential jackass whose campaign is sponsored by Viagra telling me how I should live my live. Republicans are getting tiresome with their "Do as I say, not as I do." And frankly they can go and fuck themselves.
The presidential front runners for the GOP have a two to three times higher divorce rate than the Dems. But rest assured that homosexuals marrying present the biggest threat to the institution of marriage, people like Giuliani bringing his mistress to the major's mansion in plain daylight and dumping two exwifes like flies is A-OK.
Well, Kristol-lite is clearly a putz, but the other guy did bring in the term "trophy wife" which seems oh, a touch disrespectful and unnecessary.
[...] Clark Link to Article fred thompson Kristol Mocks Dem Candidates Through Their Spouses; Declares [...]
Bush Bites @ 73:
Don't be so sure, I have encountered many a Southern "Lady" in my day. And it is amazing the capacity for self hate and abuse that a lot of them have displayed.
In fact, I was frightened to hear the latest batch of kool aid that these idiots are drinking. Regarding Mrs. Thomson, we'll you see... men and women are different and they age differently. It is natural for older men to be attracted to younger women, as women lose -with age- their sexual appeal and "usefulness." Mr. Thomson does nothing wrong, in fact he is just following nature, and not only that.. he is also honest about it. Much unlike Mrs. Clinton who is in a sham of a marriage.
So there you have it, those points were uttered by a middle aged southern lady who I had the misfortune of having a conversation with. The Southern twang made it even more unbearable. However, I found fascinating that she is able to excuse a complete useless pervert -Mr. Thomson- and display an unmitigated degree of self hate by blaming a successful independent woman -Mrs. Clinton-. Heck it is almost an art to be able to justify right wing hypocrisy and at the same time still blame Clinton. Their continuous "projection" is also getting tiresome; see every old dude is cheating on his wife once she gets old and wrinkled, right?
So, please don't ever overestimate the mental capacity of the bible belt. I am beginning to think that many of the red states should have let go when the confederacy came to be. It would have saved us a whole civil war and their bullshit afterward. We could have colonized half of the solar system by now if we didn't have to put up with their dead weight.
Tug @ 82:
Of course shitting on the memory of a former president and throw a jab at a woman battling cancer was completely necessary, right?
You can't fight these idiots with class... If Mrs. Thomson, who by all accounts is a useless parasite who dreams of being the first lady and is using his pervert of a husband as a proxy for her own ambition, wants to play in the kitchen... she needs to be aware that she is bound to get burnt.
The only way these perverted vermin will go back under the rock they came from is by showing some teeth, not by asking them pretty please.
Liberals in this country are a sad bunch, the country is on fire and they are more concerned about the correctness of the call to the fire department, you know... let's make sure it does not offend anyone and that the call is grammatically correct.
Has this guy ever been right on ANYTHING? Why does he keep being invited to express his opinions on media outlets-- is it some kind of perverse, hypocritical Affirmative Action program to address the inequities of the morally and factually bankrupt?
I am revolted every time I see Kristol on TV. But I think that's good. I think most people see him as a smarmy putz and whatever comes out of his mouth they immediately don't believe. Somebody please take the collected appearances of Kristol and make a montage of insane bafoonery.
Dummest discussion ever heard!
Drew @ 22:
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I, too, check C&L every day, but I am really turned off by some of the hyperbole from NB and the context bending of things like this post. There is enough to fill the seats using content that doesn't require tripping over yourself to right-bash.
When I read a post that makes me cringe because it seems unfair or petty or ultra-partisan, it is reliably NB. Let's stay with the tradition of straight shooters, if possible, eh? This blog is such a great, great thing otherwise.
dadams @ 18:
I think you're on to something.
Willy Kristol aka Sisyphus the dung beetle, rolling that neocon turd ball uphill in Haides for all eternity.
FOX republicans fantasizing that they could run the Dems spouses through the Swift Boat canal.
They aren't even capable of having a Democratic Primary debate on FOX.
The new FOZ slogan
" FOX, We cater to the 26% of the nation that still supports the Bush titanic. Because were fair & balance in a most biased way".
YAWN! [Deleted. I'm sure on second thought, you see how rude it is to come to badmouth the host of a link that gave you a couple extra page views, in their own house. Classy.]
Since the trophy wife link was taken from my site, [Edited] some of the more serious material on the site.
[Thanks for sharing. I'll let the authors here know you object to being linked...maybe we can get this link killed for you, even though paradoxically, you leave a link with your name and this post-Sitemonitor]...
Brevity is the soul of wit.
Get over yourself EtheWise.
while Kristol is obviously a complete shill, I think the unfair comments were made with respect to the word "trophy" rather than to her being in the debate. I don't want this to be exactly what Fox does and take things out of context.
Freaked-Out Canadian @ 34:
Maybe because Thompson's wife is 5 years YOUNGER this Thompson's daughter?
Family values party and all.
Family value - marry the girl your daughter goes to high school but only 5 grades back - oh that would mean elementry school.
Family values! Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Harley @ 95:
By the way, Thompson's son is 8 years older then his wife. Your son is 8 older then your wife. Wow. Family values.
1970cs @ 44:
Family values - he married his cousin.
Maybe a little to much family values.
RE: comment #91:
[Deleted. I’m sure on second thought, you see how rude it is to come to badmouth the host of a link that gave you a couple extra page views, in their own house. Classy.]
A) I didn't badmouth the host, I stated that the issue was really a non-issue and the phrases thrown around for Kristol are recycled and hateful.
B) I didn't object to the link just as you don't object when you are linked by various other sources. I'm not sure where you got that.
C) I can understand that opposing views might send you into a frenzy but I am really quite harmless and since my co-blogger loves you so, it would be much appeciated if you reinstated the very bland contents of comment #91. I didn't curse, I didn't name call, and I didn't spam.
[You called posters on this site names. Several times. I sent the text of your comment to John and the site team so we all know what you said, before it was edited. I left as much of your post up that wasn't a slam on the posters here.
Consult the commenting policy. I think, if you will be honest with yourself, you'll understand why your comment was redacted. It's pretty cut and dried, really. Thanks for the feedback-Sitemonitor]
gone gone forever, the river of no return.
kristol needs medication :)
Billy would make a nice hood ornament.
I have nothing to add except that was the creepiest creepfest I have seen in awhile. William the Bloody makes my skin crawl. I am seriously grossed out.
Cognitive dissonance. Not only is he a hypocrit, but he is profoundly mentally ill.
Kristol needs to be dropped off in downtown Bagdad in nothing but a diaper - with no military protection. Then he should be filmed running for his life pooping in his diaper as the people of that country surround him and pelt him to death with rocks and clubs. Kristol is an international Hitler like propagandist and war crime planner and deserves to be held directly accountable for the deaths his words and deeds have caused. The same thing can easily be said for Bush / Cheney / Rumsfeld / Rice / Gonsales - all of them.
Boo, Hiss! "Unfair Juan!!...Juan should lose his turn for that one Brit!!!!" Just uncalled for Juan.
Shouldn't the title heading read Thompson's CURRENT trophy wife? Hasn't he been through a few marriages and divorces already? And this is the family values guy that feels he can lecture the REST OF us on morality?
And how can we believe a guy that can't keep his own familieS (plural) together, can somehow manage and mediate the world's problems?
Puh-leese.
John, could you not post clips in a way where I have to look at this scumbag's twisted smirk every time I come aboard? Thanks!
Evey time I see this guy, he reminds me of a "Lord of the Ring's" characters. Creepy asshole!
Bill Kristol is an ass of the highest order. That being said I think this whole thread about hypocrisy is off the mark. Kristol wasn't bad-mouthing the Dem spouses. He was denigrating the Dem candidates by saying their spouses were more interesting. Juan was the one actually saying something negative about a candidate's wife.
There seems to be too much knee-jerk reaction to anything being said by the Fox bastards. But it doesn't do anyone any good to misrepresent the comments. Was what he said stupid and insulting to the candidates, yes; hypocritcal, no.
King of Mean @ 105:
No he only has one divorce, he had a reputation for being quite the womanizer. He has a type: buxom, southern, dye job/boob job 30ish. He was linked to a country singer that looks like a carbon copy of his current squeeze. Once they get past a specific due date, he moves on to greener pastures.
Family values indeed...
IB222 @ 107:
I think you are trying to give too much credit to Kristol by defusing the venom in his statement. You know, I know, we know exactly what he meant by his comment. So let's stop beating around the bushes, shall we?
Whether I agree or not with the set of front runners coming from the Dems this election cycle. Kucinich, Clinton, Obama et al are light years ahead when it comes to actual merit as candidates than the sorry lineup that the GOP is going to try to shovel down our throats. Just because Kristol says something out of his arse doesn't give him the power to shape reality, and I give kudos to Mr. Williams (who I think is a complete tool 99% of the time) for defusing Kristol's attempt to frame the debate with yet another straw man proposition. And again, you know, I know, we know to what Mr. Williams was referring: diverting the attention to the front runners' spouses may not be the best approach for the GOP when it comes to frame things, since they have a shit-load of skeletons in that particular closet.
But let's focus on the possibility of someone saying something not so nice under a specific interpretation about a person who married an old guy and who is using his perverted ass as a proxy for her calculated political ambition. When it comes to the possibility of the dynamic duo of scum crawlers found in the Thomson-TrophyWife reaching the white house and continue the policies that will make the lives of not just the likes of me but a considerable chunk of the world a miserable hell for yet another four years, all I can say is that I don't give a damn if Mrs. Thomson's feelings are hurt when it is pointed what she really is; a power-hungry, talentless whore married to the old guy who wants to continue the screw job that Mr. Bush has inflicted on our collective rectums.
I dunno, I believe in having one's priorities straight when it comes to nitpick shit... And in this case the overall good trumps the feelings of some dye job vermin.
The Bulldog Manifesto @ 56:
Ah, but I think Juan was simply saying to himself--this doesn't matter. And in fact, it was a substanceless discussion. It shows the depth of the level of trivia that comes with a campaign. I like and respect many of the Dem Spouses, but I think this conversation is a waste of air time. This was a low moment for FNS, not because it was manipulative or underhanded(there was some of this), but because it trivialized the candidates.
Does Bloody Billy have a trophy wife? What is his name?
The question is, can a woman function as First Lady if everyone's staring at and thinking about her big, fake rack.
How blatantly biased. This "boil" of broadcasting just becomes more festered each day.....and viewers don't see this? What about the FCC?
On pkgs of goods, the ingredients better be what they say what the manufacturer claim are in the product or they are taken off the market. What about a network that claims "fair and balanced" reporting of the news.? From false information you get really ignorant people and that is what others around the world see Americans as.
The American media is the culprit.
another really dumb one. with all the quotes they provide, people shouldn't use dumb ones.
Kristol is a bloodthirsty monster, but the term "trophy wife" is, in fact, unfair. that's what's so dangerous about the "token" liberals on these shows. they play straight men, nothing more. then when dumb people fall for their act and try to support their straight man opposition, they cause the left in general to look dumb. not that it's exclusive to the left, of course. dittoheads are much worse. but it seems that most people will never be able to separate that which they want to be reality and that which actually is reality.
I hate him too, but I believe he was reacting to the term 'trophy wife' rather than to the suggestion that she be included in the debate. Shouldn't all 'good' progressives object to that term as well? You guys risk your credibility when blinded by your hatred to the extent that you miss such an obvious meaning. I'd say Juan Williams is the neolith in this exchange.
jobimbom,
'You guys risk your credibility', they have no credibility. Why did you need to start off with 'I hate hime too', how is that relavent?
I hate to say it, but Dachau would be too good for him and his ilk..Include the Kagans.
Wow,just threw up a little...
finding new levels of hate within myself...
This network and one of their main characters Kristol is giving Comedy Central's Colbert Report and the Daily Show a run for their money. I think they are trying to do a copy cat show to catch some more viewers. This guy is such a blowhard hypocritical buffoon, just like that warmonger wingnut anchor character Stephen from the Colbert Report ...Oh wait you tell me, that Stephen character is based on Papa Bear BillO and both BillO and Kristol's are not acting....never mind. So many realities to parody, so little time to do it..file this in the you can't make this stuff up.
#110 Forget Kristol's wife.... does he have some kids that could be over in the war their father cheerleads for so vehemently?
Wow, Willy the weasel sure opened a bag of worms for himself here.
What if folks started making fun of his spouse(s)?
Ever wonder what Quayle's Brain and Bush's Brain talk about to each other under the sheets each night? And does it progress beyond 'Da Da, Goo Goo, Suk Suk'?
When Wolfie and Willie are plotting the NeoCon-Zionist coup, do they flip a sheckel to decide who's gonna be Bush (the figurehead) and who's gonna be Cheney (the power)? Or do they decide based on who makes the other cum first?
Are Willie Kristol and Dickie Perle formally married, or was that deal about jumping up and down and breaking glasses in the dungeon of the AEI/AIPAC headquarters just a FAUX ceremony for Murdoch's benefit?
History and Karma will take care of Bloody Bill Cyrstal, him and his heros legacy will be historically written on as the era of the chicken hawk warmongers, who loved war, but preferred others too fight, die and be maimed for their agenda, and on judgment day I venture too bet all I hold dear, when he meets his maker, in the preliminary interview with Jesus he will not be known too him and be labeled a "biblical goat" blind, arrogant, and unknown too Jesus, therefore he does not get to go into Gods presence since as it is well written in the bible biblical goats are so disgusting too God he will not even look upon them as he casts them into their eternal damnation and punishment in that well deserved lake of fire..., Bloody Bill Crystal sold his soul for the material world and his true "awe and shock" will pale in comparison too anything on this earth...
Kristol's War
By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, July 23, 2007; 8:06 AM
Bill Kristol's the-war-is-being-won piece in The Washington Post brought him plenty of ridicule, but at least one person liked it.
President Bush read the July 15 Outlook article that morning and recommended it to his staff.
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On the other hand, Arianna Huffington called it "the single most deceptive piece of the entire war" and said Kristol had "officially surpassed Dick Cheney as the most intellectually dishonest member of the neocon establishment." David Corn of the Nation dismissed Kristol's "Bush boosterism." And 260 pages of comments on The Post's Web site called him everything from an "uninformed, partisan fool" to a "Bush sycophant" to a "menace to America."
The Weekly Standard editor, looking a bit grayer at 54, takes the broadsides in stride, his genial, professorial demeanor seemingly unruffled by the highly personal attacks.
"I've been pretty consistent, pretty upfront and straightforward about my views," he says in his downtown office. "I had the same views when they were reasonably popular as I do now when they're unpopular. It would really be pathetic to adjust one's analysis based on public opinion."
As recently as a year ago, says Kristol, "it was frustrating, a cause I believed in being mismanaged so badly. I was defending a war whose strategy I really disapproved of. I felt an obligation not to jump ship because I thought jumping ship would be a worse outcome." But he now believes that Bush's surge will lead to a successful outcome in Iraq.
White House aide Pete Wehner calls Kristol "intellectually independent and intellectually courageous. He's been critical of us over the years, too."
No pundit is more closely identified with the war, and for good reason. The Fox News commentator, Time columnist and onetime Dan Quayle aide had long been agitating for an invasion of Iraq. "SADDAM MUST GO," says the cover of a 1997 issue on the Standard's wall. Kristol helped launch a hawkish think tank and pressed his views on the likes of Condoleezza Rice. He insisted, in the run-up to the 2003 invasion, that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, and months later hailed Bush as a "visionary."
What has driven his detractors crazy is that he has never acknowledged error in a serious way, instead brushing aside his botched predictions to lecture the country on the right course of action. Even as other conservative columnists have broken with the president, Kristol has stood his ground.
"If you're a Republican or conservative, you're so annoyed by the Bush administration over the years, you have so many grievances, and I do, too," he says. But while Kristol privately makes Titanic jokes about his support for the war, he continues to strafe his targets, writing that "the Defeatist Democrats have lots of support from the mainstream media" and that most reporters are "committed to discrediting the war."
During a White House session with conservative writers on July 13, Kristol suggested to Bush that the administration offer more detailed war briefings.
"Obviously I wish the war had gone better," he allows, but "I'm not going to say something I don't believe to make my critics happier."
Maybe he's seeking new ammunition: Kristol left yesterday on his first trip to Iraq
A true fool just like the rest of his neoconmen bullshit artists.
Maybe the Republicans can have an ex-wives debate. They sure have plenty of them...
William the Bloody sounds like the name of one butch dude.
Willy the Whiner is more like it,
Or Slap Your Willy.
Once again...why is William Kristol, never elected to anything, constantly on TV for his "opinion"???????????
The Rethug. party never has anything positive to run on, therefore look down on the Democratic Women, they hate most, because the Dem. women positively threaten these knuckle Dragging, Heathen Neocons, with their absolute intelligence over them. Especially when you compared them to the uneducated, ignorant and blind Rethug. Bimbo's that only spew hatred and stupidity.
MeMyselfAndI @ 108,
Bravo! You summed it up well.
Kristol has a stupid face. That's the best thing I can think to say of him. God i'm sick of these morons.
Is he a poster boy for gop Greedy Old Perverts or what . . .
We can easily ignore the warmongering nut Billy Kristol, a moniker that sounds more like a low wrung brand of meth given away as a premium when you buy a pound of good weed from the back window of a double wide somewhere along tornado alley. That Billy Kristol is setting Mrs. Ugly Freddy aside for beatification in the church of political scrutiny only makes that woman a target for a Larry Flynt investigation into her possible call girl past.
Why Kristol is on Ugly Freddy's jock is mystifying. Even Nixon noted that the guy was stupid as the day is long. The guy was noted as being the laziest Senator in office while representing Tennessee. Ugly Freddy needed this much political success to prepare him for his next job as a greedy lobbyist. Ugly Freddy's political success also served his two worthless sons as a stepping stone from blue collar obscurity to unjustifiable seven figure annual incomes. Ugly Freddy has milked this run to venture into the movies and television and to acquire this new, younger, better-looking-than-the-boys'-mom bride. Nothing on his resume screams Presidential credibility or Oval Office erudition. And, he has no political platform of which to speak. On the contrary, Ugly Freddy stands politically with firm commitment ON ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! This guy's Presidential aspiration is a mind-screw that shamefully takes political theatrics to a horrific new depressing low.
With that in mind, Ugly Freddy Thompson has a snowball's chance in hell of getting his Party's nomination, let alone the Presidency. Furthermore, Ugly Freddy's wife is not that hot. She's just better looking than anyone would imagine the likes of Ugly Freddy to be capable of tricking into marriage. Only goes to show what a thunderous heap of lobby-loot affords even the ugliest of balding twits. I live with the consolation that Ugly Freddy will be thwarted from ever pitching his hat into the Presidential arena, scared to death of having his shady lobbying activities brought to light. Ugly Freddy really doesn't want America to know that a socially presentable bride is the least objectionable purchase he's made with that ill-gotten lobby loot.
I don't like Kristol but c'mon...that comment was a compliment to the wives/spouses. It was just a joke - and kind of a fun idea - but I think he's right that the Elizabeth Edwards is more interesting than John and Bill is more interesting than Hillary. He certainly wasn't insulting the wives which is what Juan Williams was doing with his comment about "a trophy wife". Imagine if a right-winger said that about the wife of any Democrat - you'd all be up in arms.
There are many things for which Kristol deserves criticism. This clip isn't one of them.
Awww, Juan, "unfair."
Why?
Surely Kristol knows he is hated by the tens of thousands, if not more. I think he gets off on it. I truly do.
Big Dan @ 127:
Not to mention the fact that he has been consistently wrong about everything!
It's because he is an effing neocon and one of the architects of the war. He needs a platform upon which he can continue to lie about how things are going. Fox, naturally, are happy to oblige. I really get disgusted when I see him on CSPAN, however.
Thompson's wife is a trophy wife. I don't think that can be disputed.
I don't believe any of the Dem candidates have trophy wives. Some are very attractive, but they're not, I dunno, 30 years younger than their husbands and they don't flaunt their bodies either.
Nothing wrong with having a nice body, more power to her, but, come on, take a look at that homely old geezer she's married to. She is a trophy wife.
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I'm surprised Alfred E Neumann doesn't sue Willy the Whiner for imitating him.
136 Big Jer:
So what does that makes those who come out from under those who come out from under a rock?
Bacterium?
Jackjumper @ 125:
Heh
ARRRGHHH!!!! Will someone paa-leeeze smack that shit-eating grin off that fuckers face?? Please.....Uuuggghh!!! Not asking for anyone to shoot that lousy fucks brains out... Just smack enough sense into him, for him to just go away from the debate and stop muddying the waters... I'm sick of looking at him....And I definitely can't stand anything coming out of his cakehole...JD
When all the chips fall.... And if they are to our (humanity) advantage...
I am in the first 5 slots in line to Tea-bag this rotten piece of shits body...
rduke @ 143:
Wait a minute...
That wont be punishment to a Sado/Masochist douche bag like Kristol...
Ok, perhaps force him to watch Chomsky, Moore, Pilger, Greenwald, etc, etc, etc, Documentarys ... Clockwork Orange Style...
These people turn my stomach is this suppose to be comedy? The real jokes are the people who watch such crap!
rduke @ 143:
When all the chips fall…. And if they are to our (humanity) advantage…
I am in the first 5 slots in line to Tea-bag this rotten piece of shits body…
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Buffalo chips?
Now with BBQ flavoring.
Just when will America just turn this station OFF?
By sharing the smarmy *hit eating creeps, we keep them alive.
Ignore them and they will disappear.
It is the law of demons.
Refuse to acknowledge them and they die off.
The only commentator worth listening to:
http://home.austin.rr.com/dulaneyhome/brockman/index.html
"Project for the Republican Future
Kristol first made his mark as leader of the Project for the Republican Future, a conservative think tank, and rose to fame as a conservative opinionmaker during the battle over the Clinton health care plan. In his first of what would become legendary strategy memos circulated among Republican policymakers, Kristol said the party should "kill", not amend or compromise on, the Clinton health care plan. The success of the Clinton proposal, he warned, would “re-legitimize middle-class dependence for ‘security’ on government spending and regulation,” and “revive ... the Democrats, as the generous protector of middle-class interests.” Kristol's memo immediately became important in uniting Republicans behind total opposition to Clinton's reform plan. A later memo advocated the phrase There is no health care crisis, which Senate Minority Leader Bob Dole used in his response to Clinton's 1994 State of the Union address."
William Kristol HATES YOU, because you are not FILTHY RICH! He WISHES YOU WOULD DIE!!! He is AGAINST HEALTH CARE FOR ALL, and is inexplicably (actually it makes sense, the corporate msm) on TV ALL THE TIME!!!
The CMSM loves to have on a GUY WHO HATES YOU!!! All the time...
And the REPUBLICANS HATE YOU, TOO!!!
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