Cheney Criticizer Arrested for "Assault"

Ah...another day, another story of how Cheney is dragging this country closer to 1930s Germany...

dick-cheney-angry.jpg  Cliff Schecter:

A man walked up to Dick Cheney, calmly told him he thought his Iraq policy was reprehensible, and walked away. A few minutes later he was arrested by the Secret Service, in front of his 8-year-old son, for "assault".

When he asked what would happen to his child, the Secret Service said, "He can be sent to Child Services." Luckily, the boy found his mother and was safe.

But the citizen who practiced his free speech spent a few hours in jail before he was released.

This is a story that was just told by Matthew Rothschild on Thom Hartmann's radio show.

You can purchase Matthew Rothschild's new book, You Have No Rights: Stories of America in an Age of Repression here.



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I trust his papers were in order...

The SS just arested him because they failed to protect the Vice President.

Can this be done more often fellas?

If nothing else, THIS should be the IMPEACHABLE offense.

The belief that this country is an oasis of freedom is a steaming pile of bullshit.

This is just more proof of that.

A Rothschild? Reminds me of this nice little quote:

Mayer Amschel Rothschild
[Mayer Amschel Bauer] (1744 -1812), Godfather of the Rothschild Banking Cartel of Europe

""Give me control of a nation's money
and I care not who makes the laws."

I don't recognize my country any longer. Reich-wingers, are you proud of this?

"who practiced his free speech" -- what a quaint notion

Technically an assault is merely detaining someone. Battery is a beating.

However, to detain someone merely to speak their view would hardly qualify.

I smell a civil suit here.

ysbaddaden @ 8:

Technically an assault is merely detaining someone. Battery is a beating.

However, to detain someone merely to speak their view would hardly qualify.

I smell a civil suit here.

which will be thrown out by some darned liberal/activist judge.

Was the man charged with anything? I can't imagine how. I don't see any court upholding an assault charge because some egomaniac didn't like what was said. While this is clearly wrong and about as un-American as it gets, I would imagine that this is just intimidation with no teeth.

My worst fear is that we'll have some big terrorist attack next year and our elections will have to be postponed "for public safety." Congress, of course will be moved to a secret location (for their safety) and anyone who objects will disappear and their property will be seized.

President Bush will give a speech where he refers to us as "all one big family." He'll tell us to think of him as a "big brother."

Well well well it's all starting for real now.

Selling Impeach Bush Buttons
Sheehan
Arrested for expressing ones self.

Secret Service Authorization and Technical Modification Act of 2005
Sponsor:
Sen. Arlen Specter [R-PA]

ysbaddaden @ 8:

Technically an assault is merely detaining someone. Battery is a beating.

However, to detain someone merely to speak their view would hardly qualify.

I smell a civil suit here.

Uh....verbal assault is assault without batteries.

Luckily the boy found his mother...or Darth would have eaten him.

Paging the ACLU, please come to the red white and blue courtesy phone.....

That 8 year old is lucky that Cheney didn't shoot him.

Could someone be arrested for assaulting and buttering their movie date?

L.A. Confidential @ 12:

Well well well it's all starting for real now.

Selling Impeach Bush Buttons
Sheehan
Arrested for expressing ones self.

Secret Service Authorization and Technical Modification Act of 2005
Sponsor:
Sen. Arlen Specter [R-PA]

It was only a matter of time.

And to all the real conservatives out there...but sold out their ideology to the wingnuts of their party...do you like what you see....do you like what you have enabled?

Predictably, mainstream media discussion of Stephen Hayes' new biography of Vice President Dick Cheney has focused on his "unprecedented access" and salacious details. Unfortunately, little attention has been paid to Hayes himself.

For the details about Cheney's preferred Iraq-Al Qaeda storyteller turned official biographer, see:
"Stephen Hayes: Cheney's Favorite Iraq-9/11 Fabulist Now Biographer."

Look at the bright side... nobody got shot in the face.

And yes, as I understand it you can verbally assault somebody. But I don't think it's up to the person to decide what's assault. The SS should have known better. They could have just punched the dude in the teeth and sent his son to Guantanamo and let it go at that.

At the risk of mangling a line from one of my favorite television characters, I believe the great journalist Carl Kolchak once said, " The story may be apocryphal, but I believe it. "

Evidently the man violated Cheney's right to freedom from free speech.

Ya know I hate Dick Cheney too, but you folks need to realize some of these stories are just fabrications. How many people can just walk right up to Dick and talk to him? Not many.......

Liberal AND Proud @ 18:

L.A. Confidential @ 12:

Well well well it's all starting for real now.

It was only a matter of time.

And to all the real conservatives out there...but sold out their ideology to the wingnuts of their party...do you like what you see....do you like what you have enabled?

Yes they do probably. But you'll never hear them admit it. A conservative is a conservative no matter what category they are placed in. Just keep that money rolling in our direction. Thats what matters.

Dave @ 23:

Ya know I hate Dick Cheney too, but you folks need to realize some of these stories are just fabrications. How many people can just walk right up to Dick and talk to him? Not many.......

Maybe the real problem is that the story is believable.

Dave @ 23:

Ya know I hate Dick Cheney too, but you folks need to realize some of these stories are just fabrications. How many people can just walk right up to Dick and talk to him? Not many.......

I would think that would be a record of this and be pretty hard to fabricate. On what are you basing your assertion that it never happened?

By all means, let's move on. Reid calling Bush a liar gets BANNER HEADLINES, but Conyers turning invertebrate and having Sheehan arrested because he won't impeach Bush gets shoved aside for O'Reilly and a Cheney civil liberties story....

Where are them "banner headlines" proclamating when a worthy story comes along...eh?

Was it confirmed? Is this a real incident? Was the man charged with anything? Are there anymore details than that he was arrested? Anybody can make any ol' crap up on a radio show. If it's substantiated, then the guy has legs for a suit, if not then lets wait to hear the real story no matter how easy it is to believe Cheney would do this to a civilian.

Arroyo @ 16:

That 8 year old is lucky that Cheney didn't shoot him.

or tell him to go [eff] himself.

Dave @ 23:

Ya know I hate Dick Cheney too, but you folks need to realize some of these stories are just fabrications. How many people can just walk right up to Dick and talk to him? Not many.......

All of us can. It's called democracy. The Vice President serves at OUR pleasure.

I'd hate to be the waiter who screws up Cheney's breakfast order.

Dave @ 23:

Ya know I hate Dick Cheney too, but you folks need to realize some of these stories are just fabrications. How many people can just walk right up to Dick and talk to him? Not many.......

I read this story in the newspapers when it first occurred. IIRC, it was in the Denver area during the '04 election but I may be mistaken. There have been so many different acts against the Constitution, that I lose track of them all. But most assuredly, this DID occur.

eddiberto @ 28:

Was it confirmed? Is this a real incident? Was the man charged with anything? Are there anymore details than that he was arrested? Anybody can make any ol' crap up on a radio show. If it's substantiated, then the guy has legs for a suit, if not then lets wait to hear the real story no matter how easy it is to believe Cheney would do this to a civilian.

I would have thought the same thing about Dick Cheney shooting a lawyer in the face.

Face it, with this bunch, anything is possible.

I'm stilll waiting for Dick Cheney is diapers humping a fence post.

Maybe it is just an echo of the "go fuck yourself mr cheney, go fuck yourself" comment by the doctor after Katrina.

ashton @ 26:

Dave @ 23:

Ya know I hate Dick Cheney too, but you folks need to realize some of these stories are just fabrications. How many people can just walk right up to Dick and talk to him? Not many.......

I would think that would be a record of this and be pretty hard to fabricate. On what are you basing your assertion that it never happened?

I think the first thing to look at would be the record you speak of. It's reasonable to want to see some documentation of this event -- which should exist -- outside of a thirdhand anecdote. That's a fair request, I think.

I guess its a good thing that Dick Cheney didn't have the man charged with being an "enemy combatant" or else he would be in the cell next to another U.S. citizen Jose Padilla. Dick Cheney must be taking lessons from North Korea's Kim Jong Il.

Didn't this happen a while ago? Not that it's not a big deal but it would be more relevant if it happened recently.
Also, does anybody rembember the guy who told Cheney to "get fucked" during an interview on the streets after Katrina? You could hear a tussle in the background but never found out what happened to that brave soul.

More now than ever we should ALL be members of the ACLU.

goatsage @ 37:

Didn't this happen a while ago? Not that it's not a big deal but it would be more relevant if it happened recently.
Also, does anybody rembember the guy who told Cheney to "get fucked" during an interview on the streets after Katrina? You could hear a tussle in the background but never found out what happened to that brave soul.

He was handcuffed and detained by Cheney's 3rd-reich.

ysbaddaden @ 8:

Technically an assault is merely detaining someone. Battery is a beating.

The usual "black-letter law" is that "assault" is threatening someone in such a way as to cause a reasonable apprehension of an imminent battery. Hardly seems like the case here. Did the SS think the guy was going to try to make physical contact with Dick?

goatsage @ 37:

Didn't this happen a while ago? Not that it's not a big deal but it would be more relevant if it happened recently.
Also, does anybody rembember the guy who told Cheney to "get fucked" during an interview on the streets after Katrina? You could hear a tussle in the background but never found out what happened to that brave soul.

Yes, I think it is now part of a lawsuit and that is why the story has gained attention. I seem to recall that it happened around the time of the 2004 elections. It is just now heading to court.

This is OLD news. It did happen around the '04 election. It was in Colorado, as another poster said, just not in the Denver area. It happend in Vail.

Dave @ 23:

Ya know I hate Dick Cheney too, but you folks need to realize some of these stories are just fabrications. How many people can just walk right up to Dick and talk to him? Not many.......

Do your homework before uttering another word.

Dave @ 23:

Ya know I hate Dick Cheney too, but you folks need to realize some of these stories are just fabrications. How many people can just walk right up to Dick and talk to him? Not many.......

Remember the story of Dr. Ben Marble, walking through his devastated Gulfport, MS neighborhood after Katrina. He saw Cheney at a photo op, walked up, and told him to "go fuck himself." Caught on film. He was later detained and handcuffed.

We have to end this sh!t now.

Sadly, it is believable.

Even more sadly, it wouldn't surprise me to find this actually happened and the US media just ignored it - wouldn't want to embarrass Uncle Dickhead.

I wonder if Dick Cheney reads this blog?

HEY DICK CHENEY, GO FUCK YOURSELF.

Come get me.

Since Cheney seems to be going through his gay phase, the guy probably said you suck and Cheney said ..Yes...

Everytime I read another story on this man, I think what a waste of a good pacemaker, there are so many people that need one, can't afford them, and yet satan himself has one.

Jack Jett
www.jackejett.com

SUE the bastards!!!

There should be a "Timeline" kept of all the people who have been detained by SS. I read the post, about the old guy in the Farmers Market in Maryland, I was shocked when I read what this man was arrested for sell buttons and cause civil unrest.

All the mechanism for total absolute control is already falling into places. All we need now is just an event to trigger this..

Oops, its already happening. TSA just announced a higher security alert.

Democrats are doomed to repeat the same mistakes of the liberals in pre-Nazi rise. They just stood there silently, and trust in the due process.
It's time to stop believing that due process and respecting other opinions will work, and start hammering away.

Due process does not exist in totalitarian government. By the time you realize this, you will already be in jail.

It most certainly did happen.

Here's another article about the incident from the Rocky Mountain News.

Okay - the NYT has a story on a Colorado man arrested in June for harrassment for telling the Veep he was not doing a good job. The man was arrested on the spot - did not walk away. I saw nothing in the early paragraphs about a child. He is suing.

We really need to be VERY careful when writing about this sort of thing. The slightest inaccuracies give RNC spokespeople like O'Really and Coultergeist all sorts of ammunition.

Dave @ 23:

Ya know I hate Dick Cheney too, but you folks need to realize some of these stories are just fabrications. How many people can just walk right up to Dick and talk to him? Not many.......

True, they very well could be fabrications. The problem is, Dick Cheney nor his staff make no effort to prove those fabrications false to the American people. Its almost as if, Cheney wants to be feared or compared to Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein, or even a Kim Jong Il.

Read the papers bud...

It happened... The only thing that saved his kid from family services is that his wife was nearby.

We live in a police state... Well, you do... I am living in self-imposed exile.
Dave @ 23:

Ya know I hate Dick Cheney too, but you folks need to realize some of these stories are just fabrications. How many people can just walk right up to Dick and talk to him? Not many.......

It's not like the guy was trying to kiss him.

This happen in a mall a year or so ago
Thursday, October 5th, 2006
Denver Man Sues Secret Service for Arrest After He Criticized Cheney on Iraq War

---snip---
AMY GOODMAN: Just one sec. He, by himself, walked by you in a mall? Vice President Dick Cheney?

STEVEN HOWARDS: Well, you know, yes. There was apparently -- Gerald Ford has an annual kind of get-together of political VIPs, if you will, that -- I don't know -- discuss world issues. And I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to cross Mr. Cheney. Mr. Cheney was actually going across an outdoor mall, kind of a pedestrian mall, in Beaver Creek, Colorado. And there were lots of Secret Service agents, but he was walking through, taking some time, shaking hands. There were probably more Secret Service agents there than there were members of Joe Public. But I, you know, I waited my turn, and I walked up to Mr. Cheney, and I told him what I thought. And then I quickly exited, because I didn't want to create a scene or give anyone opportunity to cause me any problems.

AMY GOODMAN: And so, what happened next?

STEVEN HOWARDS: Well, I then continued on, took my child to piano camp, came back about ten minutes later, because if you know this area, you've got to pass through the same area. And I was approached by a Secret Service agent, who accused me of assaulting the Vice President. My eight-year-old son was standing next to me at that point in time. His exact words were, “Did you assault the Vice President?” And I said, “No, I didn't. But I did tell him the way I felt about the war in Iraq, and if Mr. Cheney wanted to be shielded from public criticism, he should avoid public places.”

And I closed by telling the agent that if freedom of speech was against the law, he should arrest me, at which point he grabbed me, cuffed my hands behind my back and started carting me across the mall. I stopped and told him I could not abandon my eight-year-old son in the middle of a public mall, at which point he responded, “We'll call Social Services.” Fortunately, on the way out, we passed my wife, who -- my son was with my wife. He had run off in terror. He wouldn't even talk, he was so scared.

They took me to jail, with my hands cuffed behind my back for three hours. The Secret Service agent told my wife, myself and anyone else that would listen that I was being charged with assaulting the Vice President. Those charges were later reduced to harassment. And two weeks later or three weeks later, the charges were dismissed altogether.

Maybe he tried to kiss Cheney...

Bogie @ 45:

Dave @ 23:

Ya know I hate Dick Cheney too, but you folks need to realize some of these stories are just fabrications. How many people can just walk right up to Dick and talk to him? Not many.......

Remember the story of Dr. Ben Marble, walking through his devastated Gulfport, MS neighborhood after Katrina. He saw Cheney at a photo op, walked up, and told him to "go fuck himself." Caught on film. He was later detained and handcuffed.

Yeah, I used to hang out at a forum frequented by Ben Marble (kind of a weird character, actually), and he posted about this after it happened. He said they cuffed him and threw him in the back of an SUV for a few hours, then released him. Fortunately, they didn't bother charging him with anything.

Nothing is so unworthy of a civilized nation as allowing itself to be governed without opposition by an irresponsible clique that has yielded to base instinct.

Cheney: Coward, Trash. That sums it up.

ysbaddaden @ 8:

Technically an assault is merely detaining someone. Battery is a beating.

However, to detain someone merely to speak their view would hardly qualify.

I smell a civil suit here.

Actually, an assault is causing a person (or simulacrum, in that Dick Cheney's case) apprehension of physical harm. He not only fears the truth, but ol' five-deferments is a big fat wussy even with the Secret Service.

What a toolshed.

Just goes to show you that business men do not make good political leaders. They are simply unqualified.

Joe O. @ 55:

Dave @ 23:

Ya know I hate Dick Cheney too, but you folks need to realize some of these stories are just fabrications. How many people can just walk right up to Dick and talk to him? Not many.......

True, they very well could be fabrications. The problem is, Dick Cheney nor his staff make no effort to prove those fabrications false to the American people. Its almost as if, Cheney wants to be feared or compared to Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein, or even a Kim Jong Il.

Again, do more than read little sound-bites here.

Somebody provided you with a link to the story: Have you read it?

It is AMAZING to us in the rest of the world that 240 Million people in the US have not stormed the white house and that Bush, Cheney, Gonzales and Rice are still going to work every day.

WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE WAITING FOR?

How dare that man criticize the greatest VP in history. This man deserves Gitmo. Good for you Lord Cheney...umm I mean Richard.

Truth of the story is, the man was arrested for cutting in line. Yes, the line to insult Dick Cheney is pretty fucking long.

Rusty Shackleford @ 41:

ysbaddaden @ 8:

Technically an assault is merely detaining someone. Battery is a beating.

The usual "black-letter law" is that "assault" is threatening someone in such a way as to cause a reasonable apprehension of an imminent battery. Hardly seems like the case here. Did the SS think the guy was going to try to make physical contact with Dick?

My definition included illegal detention, as if the guy illegally detained chainey. The trip point is how does one define "reasonable apprehension?"

Was 'Dave' the one that was apologizing for Faux yesterday?

Yeah Finrod, but the guy did not linger. And Cheney was milling, shaking hands with various folks. I'll bet the US atty in that district shat himself when he saw the 'evidence.'

Mr Howard was lucky The Dick wasn't showing off his $20,000 hunting gun-'The Face Bagger.'

Dave @ 23:

Ya know I hate Dick Cheney too, but you folks need to realize some of these stories are just fabrications. How many people can just walk right up to Dick and talk to him? Not many.......

please see an example of 'democracy in action', video footage of someone confronting cheney.

it does happen. i imagine this story too would have been discounted as a "fabrication" but luckily there is video proof. and the 'heckler'? yup, he was questioned by the SS too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd_cB48QdxI

This thug has turned the secret service into a bunch of brown shirts. Assault is a credible threat of battery. The secret service should have refused the order to arrest somebody who made no threat to the Dark Lord. They have disgraced themselves by their act.

So, now it is illegal to talk to the hired help.

I have nothing but contempt for that Grade Z Franco playing Veep.

I wish the guy placed chainey under citizens arrest.

WriterWriter @ 66:

It is AMAZING to us in the rest of the world that 240 Million people in the US have not stormed the white house and that Bush, Cheney, Gonzales and Rice are still going to work every day.

WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE WAITING FOR?

Why, Opening Day of the National Football League, silly. If you lived here, you would know that.

SO - Mr. Free Speech approached the VP for the purpose of speaking his mind - an exercise in his First Amendment rights. Beyond the exercise he got (speaking, being detained, and etc.) what was the purpose? Was Cheney's mind going to change? "Oh all this time I was so sure of myself and everything but now that this complete stranger mentioned how wrong he thinks my actions are I see things so differently. I'm going to everything possible to end the war now." It would seem that Darth Cheney has a fetish for this sort of encounter. The best thing to do, if you feel the absolute need to act, is to exercise your First Amendment rights with all the elected congress member for your state AND both senators for your state.

WriterWriter @ 66:

It is AMAZING to us in the rest of the world that 240 Million people in the US have not stormed the white house and that Bush, Cheney, Gonzales and Rice are still going to work every day.

WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE WAITING FOR?

WriterWriter,

To even comptemplate such an act, much less discuss it with another, constitutes conspiracy. I'm sure you've heard about our gulag system, at this point?

Has anyone compiled a list of possible indictable offenses by Chainsaw? I know that the Administration has a very expansive conception of executive privilege, but for the sake of justice I have to hope that it could be possible that an indictment could come down some day in early 2009 . . . .. Noone in U.S. Govt has ever deserved it more.

Yeah, it's absolutely believeable, but that doesn't make it true. Does this guy have a name?

Is there a way of stripping power, but not the office, from someone?

boosh and chainey should be so stripped

and not bend over for the soap.

Cant wait to hear Hannity, Limbaugh, and O’rielly SMEAR the Kid

Has anyone else noticed, that as the poll numbers have dropped...the clamps keep being applied tighter. Let's see...denying elected representatives access to classified information, obstruction of justice, ignoring legal subpoenas...etc etc.

Elections are over...and democracy is on its knees.

Joementum @ 80:

Yeah, it's absolutely believeable, but that doesn't make it true. Does this guy have a name?

Oh, I see. Never mind.

Joementum @ 80:

Yeah, it's absolutely believeable, but that doesn't make it true. Does this guy have a name?

Yeah. But it's a secret. We can't tell you...otherwise THE TERRORISTS WIN!

I have written to the Editor of the Rocky Mountain Times(wherein the story involving
Mr. Howard and his son was covered on Oct. 3, 2006) and have requested that either
Mr. Charlie Brenner(author of the article) or someone else working for the newspaper
furnish me with the status of the suite brought by Mr. Howard. Hope I receive a reply
and an update..

Assault arrest followed word to Cheney

Howards said he may have touched Cheney on the elbow or shoulder, like others in the crowd.

Small detail left out of this year-old non-story. Wonder what the Secret Service would've done to someone walking up to Bill Clinton and putting his hands on him while calling him a scumbag.

Give Me Convenience @ 77:

SO - Mr. Free Speech approached the VP for the purpose of speaking his mind - an exercise in his First Amendment rights. Beyond the exercise he got (speaking, being detained, and etc.) what was the purpose? Was Cheney's mind going to change? "Oh all this time I was so sure of myself and everything but now that this complete stranger mentioned how wrong he thinks my actions are I see things so differently. I'm going to everything possible to end the war now." It would seem that Darth Cheney has a fetish for this sort of encounter. The best thing to do, if you feel the absolute need to act, is to exercise your First Amendment rights with all the elected congress member for your state AND both senators for your state.

So you advocate not speaking your mind to a son of bitch, masquerading as an elected official? So the fuck what-I don't expect to change anyone's mind typing away here on teh internets, but I still do it.

I'd tell that guy a thing or two if I had a chance...Mr Howards was correct when he told the SS (Convenient initials, in this case) right before he was arrested "...I did tell him the way I felt about the war in Iraq, and if Mr. Cheney wanted to be shielded from public criticism, he should avoid public places.

Cheney is the offender, not the guy exercising his first amendment rights.

Blame the victim anyway. It's so popular to do so.

dick cheney is becoming more and more like 'happy fun ball'. stand back if cheney starts to smoke...

do not taunt happy fun ball

(if you substitute 'dicky vice president' for 'happy fun ball' it makes, which is disturbing, a lot of sense)

Warning: Pregnant women, the elderly and children under 10 should avoid prolonged exposure to Happy Fun Ball.
Caution: Happy Fun Ball may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds.
Happy Fun Ball Contains a liquid core, which, if exposed due to rupture, should not be touched, inhaled, or looked at.
Do not use Happy Fun Ball on concrete.

Discontinue use of Happy Fun Ball if any of the following occurs:
Itching
Vertigo
Dizziness
Tingling in extremities
Loss of balance or coordination
Slurred speech
Temporary blindness
Profuse sweating
Heart palpitations

If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, get away immediately. Seek shelter and cover head.
Happy Fun Ball may stick to certain types of skin.

When not in use, Happy Fun Ball should be returned to its special container and kept under refrigeration...

Failure to do so relieves the makers of Happy Fun Ball, Wacky Products Incorporated, and its parent company Global Chemical Unlimited, of any and all liability.

Ingredients of Happy Fun Ball include an unknown glowing substance which fell to Earth, presumably from outer space.

Happy Fun Ball has been shipped to our troops in Saudi Arabia and is also being dropped by our warplanes on Iraq.

Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.

Do Not taunt Dicky Vice President

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXoKm39vROo

(i'm all youtubed-up today... beware)

Motherfucker!!! obviously Dick Cheney needs an practical lesson in what 'REAL' assault is... Punk motherfucker... Why don't you take your bum ticker and up and die you fat PIG!!!!
ARRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!! I can't talk about this anymore....
To HELL with this whole putrid administration...........JD

This may be a bit off topic, but can anyone find a picture of that man that doesn't look like he crushed a kitten with his bare hands? I'm not by any means photogenic, I know people can have a bad hair day, or a pimple in some photographs... But, Hey! Dick! Whats with all the evil man?

miss_kitty @ 87:

Give Me Convenience @ 77:

SO - Mr. Free Speech approached the VP for the purpose of speaking his mind - an exercise in his First Amendment rights. Beyond the exercise he got (speaking, being detained, and etc.) what was the purpose? Was Cheney's mind going to change? "Oh all this time I was so sure of myself and everything but now that this complete stranger mentioned how wrong he thinks my actions are I see things so differently. I'm going to everything possible to end the war now." It would seem that Darth Cheney has a fetish for this sort of encounter. The best thing to do, if you feel the absolute need to act, is to exercise your First Amendment rights with all the elected congress member for your state AND both senators for your state.

So you advocate not speaking your mind to a son of bitch, masquerading as an elected official? So the fuck what-I don't expect to change anyone's mind typing away here on teh internets, but I still do it.

I'd tell that guy a thing or two if I had a chance...Mr Howards was correct when he told the SS (Convenient initials, in this case) right before he was arrested "...I did tell him the way I felt about the war in Iraq, and if Mr. Cheney wanted to be shielded from public criticism, he should avoid public places.

Cheney is the offender, not the guy exercising his first amendment rights.

Blame the victim anyway. It's so popular to do so.

Bravo.

Honestly, if I had been in the same scenario, I would more than likely have gone up to him and said, "Cheney: Go fuck yourself."

And you know how that would have ended (Cuba, here I come...).

The amount of suffering Cheney has caused he will pay for in equal kind. It is called karma. In his case ignorance is bliss for the time being. His heart problems will be nothing compared to the agony he will feel in future lives.

dennis @ 86:

Assault arrest followed word to Cheney

Howards said he may have touched Cheney on the elbow or shoulder, like others in the crowd.

Small detail left out of this year-old non-story. Wonder what the Secret Service would've done to someone walking up to Bill Clinton and putting his hands on him while calling him a scumbag.

Your link does not work...

dennis @ 86:

Assault arrest followed word to Cheney

Howards said he may have touched Cheney on the elbow or shoulder, like others in the crowd.

Small detail left out of this year-old non-story. Wonder what the Secret Service would've done to someone walking up to Bill Clinton and putting his hands on him while calling him a scumbag.

Not only a small detail, but an irrelevant one. If touching Cheney's garment was Howards' crime, it would be battery, not assault. The "crime" was later reduced to "harassment" as well, which does not necessitate any touching at all.

Also, Howards did not call Dick a "scumbag." He engaged in what is clearly legitimate political speech.

But by all means, keep apologizing for your fascist idol.

Give Me Convenience @ 77:

SO - Mr. Free Speech approached the VP for the purpose of speaking his mind - an exercise in his First Amendment rights. Beyond the exercise he got (speaking, being detained, and etc.) what was the purpose? Was Cheney's mind going to change? "Oh all this time I was so sure of myself and everything but now that this complete stranger mentioned how wrong he thinks my actions are I see things so differently. I'm going to everything possible to end the war now." It would seem that Darth Cheney has a fetish for this sort of encounter. The best thing to do, if you feel the absolute need to act, is to exercise your First Amendment rights with all the elected congress member for your state AND both senators for your state.

So, you would just prefer that everyone keep their mouths shut? Is that the America you desire?

Jack Damage @ 89:

Motherfucker!!! obviously Dick Cheney needs an practical lesson in what 'REAL' assault is... Punk motherfucker... Why don't you take your bum ticker and up and die you fat PIG!!!!
ARRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!! I can't talk about this anymore....
To HELL with this whole putrid administration...........JD

Easy, Jack. Don't go all "Dick Cheney" on us.

Joementum @ 80:

Yeah, it's absolutely believeable, but that doesn't make it true. Does this guy have a name?


STEVEN HOWARDS

I posted it in #58, along with his account of the incident, and others have posted links to the story as well.

It pays to glance at the posts-once in awhile, they're packed with auxiliary facts and stuff.

Princess @ 86:

Assault arrest followed word to Cheney

Howards said he may have touched Cheney on the elbow or shoulder, like others in the crowd.

Small detail left out of this year-old non-story. Wonder what the Secret Service would've done to someone walking up to Bill Clinton and putting his hands on him while calling him a scumbag.

Princess claims EVERY story is a non-story...and of course, she cannot pass up the opportunity to bring up Mr. Clinton. Typical out of touch reich-winger.

Dr. Matt @ 95:

Give Me Convenience @ 77:

SO - Mr. Free Speech approached the VP for the purpose of speaking his mind - an exercise in his First Amendment rights. Beyond the exercise he got (speaking, being detained, and etc.) what was the purpose? Was Cheney's mind going to change? "Oh all this time I was so sure of myself and everything but now that this complete stranger mentioned how wrong he thinks my actions are I see things so differently. I'm going to everything possible to end the war now." It would seem that Darth Cheney has a fetish for this sort of encounter. The best thing to do, if you feel the absolute need to act, is to exercise your First Amendment rights with all the elected congress member for your state AND both senators for your state.

So, you would just prefer that everyone keep their mouths shut? Is that the America you desire?

Gosh...the answer is so obvious.

Dr. Matt @ 98:

Princess @ 86:

Assault arrest followed word to Cheney

Howards said he may have touched Cheney on the elbow or shoulder, like others in the crowd.

Small detail left out of this year-old non-story. Wonder what the Secret Service would've done to someone walking up to Bill Clinton and putting his hands on him while calling him a scumbag.

Princess claims EVERY story is a non-story...and of course, she cannot pass up the opportunity to bring up Mr. Clinton. Typical out of touch reich-winger.

She just wishes she was Monica...just like all the other GOP hags.

Some posters have been succesful agent provocateurs in this thread, a fine example of how the Bush administration gets away with it.

Don't forget that the police can detain someone up to 72 hours without charging them without any crime whatsoever. This is often how they detain protesters until an event is over, or throw someone in the "drunk tank" for being a reckless drunk.

Liberal AND Proud @ 100:

Dr. Matt @ 98:

Princess @ 86:

Assault arrest followed word to Cheney

Howards said he may have touched Cheney on the elbow or shoulder, like others in the crowd.

Small detail left out of this year-old non-story. Wonder what the Secret Service would've done to someone walking up to Bill Clinton and putting his hands on him while calling him a scumbag.

Princess claims EVERY story is a non-story...and of course, she cannot pass up the opportunity to bring up Mr. Clinton. Typical out of touch reich-winger.

She just wishes she was Monica...just like all the other GOP hags.

True - all they can think about is putting their hands on Clinton. Sad, really. The guy's been out of office for nearly seven years but they can't let it go.

oh yeah, when i read a story about the totalitarian, rightwing movement stifling free speech, civil rights and the such my first thought is..... CLINTON!!!!

/sarcasm

dennis @ 86:

Assault arrest followed word to Cheney

Howards said he may have touched Cheney on the elbow or shoulder, like others in the crowd.

Small detail left out of this year-old non-story. Wonder what the Secret Service would've done to someone walking up to Bill Clinton and putting his hands on him while calling him a scumbag.

Fixed Link

It will only be a matter of time before Princess or one of the other reich-wingers mention Faux's ratings and makes a Ted Kennedy crack.

[...] WTF!!!! Cheney Criticizer Arrested for “Assault” [...]

Sorry L&P... After reading a story like this... I need a shot of Jack... Daniels that is.... Arrrrgh I think I'll make it a double...
These Bushco people and their neverending crap just makes my blood boil...JD

Does anyone know who this man is? We should send him money so that he can file a lawsuit and seek damages.

What sad, little people we have for leaders that they cannot even face their own citizens.

Blue Buddha @ 102:

Don't forget that the police can detain someone up to 72 hours without charging them without any crime whatsoever. This is often how they detain protesters until an event is over, or throw someone in the "drunk tank" for being a reckless drunk.

Or, as in the case of bush-lite, corridor off a LARGE area and not let anyone near him.
Except, that is, when he give his trite, canned speaches before those "selected and
screened" cronies permitted to view that asswipe.

dennis @ 86:

Assault arrest followed word to Cheney

Howards said he may have touched Cheney on the elbow or shoulder, like others in the crowd.

Small detail left out of this year-old non-story. Wonder what the Secret Service would've done to someone walking up to Bill Clinton and putting his hands on him while calling him a scumbag.

A he didn't touch the guy on purpose, and he didn't call him a scumbag. Read the story, Clenis-blamer...

Dr. Matt @ 95:

Give Me Convenience @ 77:

SO - Mr. Free Speech approached the VP for the purpose of speaking his mind - an exercise in his First Amendment rights. Beyond the exercise he got (speaking, being detained, and etc.) what was the purpose? Was Cheney's mind going to change? "Oh all this time I was so sure of myself and everything but now that this complete stranger mentioned how wrong he thinks my actions are I see things so differently. I'm going to everything possible to end the war now." It would seem that Darth Cheney has a fetish for this sort of encounter. The best thing to do, if you feel the absolute need to act, is to exercise your First Amendment rights with all the elected congress member for your state AND both senators for your state.

So, you would just prefer that everyone keep their mouths shut? Is that the America you desire?

So after experiencing the satisfaction of "lettin' the VP know how you feel" what then? Does he lose any sleep or feel any remorse at knowing how many people are upset with him? Is the exercise of your rights in this way effective, or does it merely provide a mild, emotional narcotic effect - you DID something even though it had as much impact as spitting into the wind. By all means avoid taking any sort of action that might require an on-going commitment. Something like letting your elected congressional representatives and senators know how you feel - daily if you like - since they are constitutionally empowered to do something about this situation.

Dave @ 23:

Ya know I hate Dick Cheney too, but you folks need to realize some of these stories are just fabrications. How many people can just walk right up to Dick and talk to him? Not many.......

How about that ER doctor that told Cheney to f*** himself. Another fabrication?

More honor and dignity from the Family Values party.

miss_kitty @ 98:

Joementum @ 80:

Yeah, it's absolutely believeable, but that doesn't make it true. Does this guy have a name?


STEVEN HOWARDS

I posted it in #58, along with his account of the incident, and others have posted links to the story as well.

It pays to glance at the posts-once in awhile, they're packed with auxiliary facts and stuff.

Yep. My bad. If you'd glanced at post #83, you'd have known I'd acknowledged as much. Anywho ... In all seriousness, thanks for setting the record straight.

Had enough, Nancy? When the hell is Pelosi going to wake up and start impeachment procedures? The more this goes on, I say, "Go, Sheehan, Go."

This guy seemed to get his point across to Cheney:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3SemYQH-8o
:D

Give Me Convenience @ 113:

Dr. Matt @ 95:

Give Me Convenience @ 77:

SO - Mr. Free Speech approached the VP for the purpose of speaking his mind - an exercise in his First Amendment rights. Beyond the exercise he got (speaking, being detained, and etc.) what was the purpose? Was Cheney's mind going to change? "Oh all this time I was so sure of myself and everything but now that this complete stranger mentioned how wrong he thinks my actions are I see things so differently. I'm going to everything possible to end the war now." It would seem that Darth Cheney has a fetish for this sort of encounter. The best thing to do, if you feel the absolute need to act, is to exercise your First Amendment rights with all the elected congress member for your state AND both senators for your state.

So, you would just prefer that everyone keep their mouths shut? Is that the America you desire?

So after experiencing the satisfaction of "lettin' the VP know how you feel" what then? Does he lose any sleep or feel any remorse at knowing how many people are upset with him? Is the exercise of your rights in this way effective, or does it merely provide a mild, emotional narcotic effect - you DID something even though it had as much impact as spitting into the wind. By all means avoid taking any sort of action that might require an on-going commitment. Something like letting your elected congressional representatives and senators know how you feel - daily if you like - since they are constitutionally empowered to do something about this situation.

What are you exactly whining about?

This guy managed to make his point with Mr. Cheney:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3SemYQH-8o
:D

Are we seeing the real crime(s) yet?

Connect the dots...

--> The "Media" has been directly participating in obstruction of Justice and the coverup of crimes, past and present.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Nations_top_three_news_anchors_made_0725.html

--> Facism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facism

--> Tyranny
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrant

--> The Patriot Act
It was written before Sept 11

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." -- Thomas Jefferson

Reich-wing "logic":

"Touching" Cheney's shoulder + telling him you disagree with his war = criminal activity

"Touching" Cheney's shoulder + keeping your mouth shut = good American.

Ok. We all know Cheney is evil. It is even more disheartening that he has so many co-conspirators in so many different areas. (California power companies, other politicians and corporate honchosand even environmental chiefs.)
Why is everyone falling in line with the pide piper and his Bush puppet?

Hey Dick -

Fuck you.

Come and get me, SS.

Jack Damage @ 109:

Sorry L&P... After reading a story like this... I need a shot of Jack... Daniels that is.... Arrrrgh I think I'll make it a double...
These Bushco people and their neverending crap just makes my blood boil...JD

Make mine an IV.

And this is why I served in the military?

This is a must read for anyone who wants a first-hand account of, Satan's spawn, Dick and Lynne Cheney eating babies

From Tinfoil Viking Science

OriginalCynic @ 124:

Hey Dick -

Fuck you.

Come and get me, SS.

There you go, OriginalCynic, that's the way you vent your frustrations. Post it on a blog. All you have to do is keep your hands off the guy and you'll be fine. That way you don't force the Secret Servicemen do what is afterall only their jobs to do.

Someone will be fired for allowing in a Anti War person in the carefully screened Rethug. crowd.

[...] Clark Link to Article dick cheney Cheney Criticizer Arrested for “Assault” » Posted at Crooks [...]

dennis @ 127:

OriginalCynic @ 124:

Hey Dick -

Fuck you.

Come and get me, SS.

There you go, OriginalCynic, that's the way you vent your frustrations. Post it on a blog. All you have to do is keep your hands off the guy and you'll be fine. That way you don't force the Secret Servicemen do what is afterall only their jobs to do.

It's their job to protect the VP from somebody who had walked away?

Cheney can be drunk and shoot someone in the face - and have NO CONSEQUENCES, but someone can walk up to him and express an opinion and walk away - and be arrested in front of his 8 year old child..
What has this country come to..?

YS;

Kinda makes a mockery of all that time we put in... 'In the service of our country'.... Just so an asshole like this could punk out the whole nation.....FUCK!!! I'll prepare the IV's bro....JD

Looks like Republicans just cannot suck
enough Police State cock to suit them.

That is, until it bites them in their own ass.

Then they are the 1st ones to run and
hide behind the Constitution.

Thanks to their 6 years of rule in Washington,
these types of Gestapo tactics have become
common. They really believe only the
"Non-Republicans" will be effected by this
kind of crap. But intelligent people know
better.

skyreader7 @ 93:

The amount of suffering Cheney has caused he will pay for in equal kind. It is called karma. In his case ignorance is bliss for the time being. His heart problems will be nothing compared to the agony he will feel in future lives.

The problem with that concept of karma is that it does absolutely nothing for the people who's lives this one man has completely destroyed let alone the damage to the earth and it's wildlife in this life. He will die with absolutely no justice done to him for all the lives he has adversely affected. If there was real justice in this insane world he and his kind have created he would spend the rest of his life strapped to a bed in an insane asylum while each and every family member of someone his policies have killed could visit him and say their piece and spit on his face as he is forced to watch documentaries with interviews and pictures of the devastation to human and the earth his policies caused. that would much better then just letting him get away with the death penalty.

Dear Cheney,

Please continue eating heavily salted red meat.

Regards,
America

Dr. Matt @ 134:

Dear Cheney,

Please continue eating heavily salted red meat.

Regards,
America

Don't forget batter and deep fried.

I never knew what the expression, "Batter Up," meant until I tried to eat a Hungry Man's Chicken Fried Steak dinner.

Is it now Illigal to protest the war. Who defines a violetn protest?

Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070717-3.html

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, as amended (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.)(IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.)(NEA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that, due to the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by acts of violence threatening the peace and stability of Iraq and undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq and to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people, it is in the interests of the United States to take additional steps with respect to the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 of May 22, 2003, and expanded in Executive Order 13315 of August 28, 2003, and relied upon for additional steps taken in Executive Order 13350 of July 29, 2004, and Executive Order 13364 of November 29, 2004. I hereby order:

Section 1. (a) Except to the extent provided in section 203(b)(1), (3), and (4) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(1), (3), and (4)), or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted prior to the date of this order, all property and interests in property of the following persons, that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of United States persons, are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense,

(i) to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of:

(A) threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq; or

(B) undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people;

(ii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, logistical, or technical support for, or goods or services in support of, such an act or acts of violence or any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or

(iii) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order.

(b) The prohibitions in subsection (a) of this section include, but are not limited to, (i) the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order, and (ii) the receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person.

Sec. 2. (a) Any transaction by a United States person or within the United States that evades or avoids, has the purpose of evading or avoiding, or attempts to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

(b) Any conspiracy formed to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

Sec. 3. For purposes of this order:

(a) the term "person" means an individual or entity;

(b) the term "entity" means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization; and

(c) the term "United States person" means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States.

Sec. 4. I hereby determine that the making of donations of the type specified in section 203(b)(2) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(2)) by, to, or for the benefit of, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order would seriously impair my ability to deal with the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 and expanded in Executive Order 13315, and I hereby prohibit such donations as provided by section 1 of this order.

Sec. 5. For those persons whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order who might have a constitutional presence in the United States, I find that, because of the ability to transfer funds or other assets instantaneously, prior notice to such persons of measures to be taken pursuant to this order would render these measures ineffectual. I therefore determine that for these measures to be effective in addressing the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 and expanded in Executive Order 13315, there need be no prior notice of a listing or determination made pursuant to section 1(a) of this order.

Sec. 6. The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense, is hereby authorized to take such actions, including the promulgation of rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to the President by IEEPA as may be necessary to carry out the purposes of this order. The Secretary of the Treasury may redelegate any of these functions to other officers and agencies of the United States Government, consistent with applicable law. All agencies of the United States Government are hereby directed to take all appropriate measures within their authority to carry out the provisions of this order and, where appropriate, to advise the Secretary of the Treasury in a timely manner of the measures taken.

Sec. 7. Nothing in this order is intended to affect the continued effectiveness of any rules, regulations, orders, licenses, or other forms of administrative action issued, taken, or continued in effect heretofore or hereafter under 31 C.F.R. chapter V, except as expressly terminated, modified, or suspended by or pursuant to this order.

Sec. 8. This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right, benefit, or privilege, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, instrumentalities, or entities, its officers or employees, or any other person.

GEORGE W. BUSH

THE WHITE HOUSE,

July 17, 2007.

miss_kitty @ 58:

This happen in a mall a year or so ago
Thursday, October 5th, 2006
Denver Man Sues Secret Service for Arrest After He Criticized Cheney on Iraq War

---snip---
AMY GOODMAN: Just one sec. He, by himself, walked by you in a mall? Vice President Dick Cheney?

STEVEN HOWARDS: Well, you know, yes. There was apparently -- Gerald Ford has an annual kind of get-together of political VIPs, if you will, that -- I don't know -- discuss world issues. And I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to cross Mr. Cheney. Mr. Cheney was actually going across an outdoor mall, kind of a pedestrian mall, in Beaver Creek, Colorado. And there were lots of Secret Service agents, but he was walking through, taking some time, shaking hands. There were probably more Secret Service agents there than there were members of Joe Public. But I, you know, I waited my turn, and I walked up to Mr. Cheney, and I told him what I thought. And then I quickly exited, because I didn't want to create a scene or give anyone opportunity to cause me any problems.

AMY GOODMAN: And so, what happened next?

STEVEN HOWARDS: Well, I then continued on, took my child to piano camp, came back about ten minutes later, because if you know this area, you've got to pass through the same area. And I was approached by a Secret Service agent, who accused me of assaulting the Vice President. My eight-year-old son was standing next to me at that point in time. His exact words were, “Did you assault the Vice President?” And I said, “No, I didn't. But I did tell him the way I felt about the war in Iraq, and if Mr. Cheney wanted to be shielded from public criticism, he should avoid public places.”

And I closed by telling the agent that if freedom of speech was against the law, he should arrest me, at which point he grabbed me, cuffed my hands behind my back and started carting me across the mall. I stopped and told him I could not abandon my eight-year-old son in the middle of a public mall, at which point he responded, “We'll call Social Services.” Fortunately, on the way out, we passed my wife, who -- my son was with my wife. He had run off in terror. He wouldn't even talk, he was so scared.

They took me to jail, with my hands cuffed behind my back for three hours. The Secret Service agent told my wife, myself and anyone else that would listen that I was being charged with assaulting the Vice President. Those charges were later reduced to harassment. And two weeks later or three weeks later, the charges were dismissed altogether.

This did not happen "a year or so ago". This incident took place in October of 2006 and it is now July 2007. You do the math.

ysbaddaden @ 135:

Dr. Matt @ 134:

Dear Cheney,

Please continue eating heavily salted red meat.

Regards,
America

Don't forget batter and deep fried.

How about some wine?

You can't even talk to the junta without getting arrested or kicked out of a town hall meeting. They're everything the founding fathers risked their fortunes and freedom to flee from

rain @ 139:

ysbaddaden @ 135:

Dr. Matt @ 134:

Dear Cheney,

Please continue eating heavily salted red meat.

Regards,
America

Don't forget batter and deep fried.

How about some wine?

Oh please, please, please, you're so mean!

The man should be thankful Cheney wasn't on one of those 'hunting trips'.

IMPEACH THE RAT BASTARDS!!!

The thing is... if you get an assault charge for simply speaking out against the VP, shouldn't this send a message to all protestors that they *might as well* just walk up to Cheney and knock his lights out instead of passively expressing their opinions? I mean, if Free Speach is now "assault" why not just bring the real assault?

ysbaddaden @ 136:

Dr. Matt @ 134:

Dear Cheney,

Please continue eating heavily salted red meat.

Regards,
America

Don't forget batter and deep fried.

Deep Fried in LARD!

ysbaddaden @ 8:

Technically an assault is merely detaining someone. Battery is a beating.

However, to detain someone merely to speak their view would hardly qualify.

I smell a civil suit here.

From a year ago...

Arrest over Cheney barb triggers lawsuit

By Charlie Brennan, Rocky Mountain News
October 3, 2006
A Denver-area man filed a lawsuit today against a member of the Secret Service for causing him to be arrested after he approached Vice President Dick Cheney in Beaver Creek this summer and criticized him for his policies concerning Iraq.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_50392...

hanshiro @ 27:

By all means, let's move on. Reid calling Bush a liar gets BANNER HEADLINES, but Conyers turning invertebrate and having Sheehan arrested because he won't impeach Bush gets shoved aside for O'Reilly and a Cheney civil liberties story....

Where are them "banner headlines" proclamating when a worthy story comes along...eh?

conyers need three congressmen to recommend impeachment. why didn't cindy and code pink find three other congressmen to picket? conyers has been on the impeachment tip since the downing street memos were made public, certainly longer than anyone else, so get off his case! Find a fence-sitter to piss on until they support impeachment. Cindy was preaching to the choir. Tell cindy and code pink to stop the symbolism and embark on mor5e intelligent activism. What cindy and company did was throw a tantrum, plain and simple.

ysbaddaden @ 17:

Could someone be arrested for assaulting and buttering their movie date?

Butter? or ParKay?

Was the man holding a cross and wearing a garlic necklace?

BaScOmBe @ 145:

ysbaddaden @ 136:

Dr. Matt @ 134:

Dear Cheney,

Please continue eating heavily salted red meat.

Regards,
America

Don't forget batter and deep fried.

Deep Fried in LARD!

Butt who's?

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