In Oregon they had to take bestiality off the list of perversions on their anti-gay referendum, because some of the rural homophobes felt threatened. Lopez is obviously a city girl.

Hmmm...was he kidding????

When he brought the dead fetus home to play show & tell with his children....was he kidding???

He's a psychopath of the highest order....and a bigot

What a winning combination for the GOP...oops...he was...

Oh where is that story about the Arab being forced to marry his goat.....

I just don't see the link between this and gay marriage. Couldn't one just as easily pick any other issue in MA and state that one caused the other?

It was that damned universal healthcare, I tell you. If this boy had to deal with an HMO, this never would have happened. It is a slippery slope.

"what kind of worldview leads someone to draw such a conclusion in the first place?"

It's a function of their upbringing. It's what happens when you live in the state of Homophobia.

When she says she apologizes, she really means she apologizes that someone had a problem with her "ironclad" arguments and that she's sorry she can't say crap like that unchecked.

Excerpt-[A woman at Boggastow Farm yesterday shouted, "no comment" to reporters before later threatening to call police]

So which is it, before or later?

I hate these doctored up stories.

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Rick Santorum and Kathyrn Lopez are infected with the difficult to treat GOP virus which causes devolution, slow wittedness and a penchant for fearing others who are different than you. The treatment is long and painful involving education, enlightenment and the will power to turn away from FOX News and talk radio. Let' pray for Santorum and Lopez that they may be able to shake off this dreaded disease that has infected so many in this country and than threatens our nation and our very way of life.

bill w @ 11:

Salmineo @ 9:

Don't let Bush see this. He'll probably call for the sterilization of gays to prevent proliferation.

Should sterilize the sheep instead. ;)

You can't do anything about thoses sassy whores. You KNOW she was asking for it.

WTH?

Are Roger Henderson's parents gay?

So how does that connect to the fact this kid wanted to have sex with barnyard animals?

Kinda reminds me of that ReThug member of Congress who said his first girlfriend was a horse...anyone knows the name of that S-O-B (or as it would be said in the South - that "sumbitch"?)

I wonder if he was planning for a trip up to Bah Hahbah. :D

I doun't know man, gay marraige issue has been around awhile. I've heard many different arguments about right, wrong, allow, don't allow, yada yada....

But I never got the desire to run out and fuck sheep because of it.

See. Normal people don't think about stuff like this. They don't equate bestiality with anybody. These types of things don't enter a normal person 's mind. It is just the sexual perverts call republicans who dream this up.

"No, she was equating gay marriage with bestiality. Lopez has since apologized, but what kind of worldview leads someone to draw such a conclusion in the first place?"

Exactly...what kind of sick place is the mind of anyone who would make a link such as this?

As someone raised in the country, I knew guys who would fuck farm animals, and they were without exception straight young guys who couldn't get laid any other way. Occasionally you might hear of an older guy getting busted for it, but maybe they had developed a taste for it, or maybe there wives had cut them off,(or died) and they were reverting to the habits of there youth.

Patriot Scholar @ 30:

"No, she was equating gay marriage with bestiality. Lopez has since apologized, but what kind of worldview leads someone to draw such a conclusion in the first place?"

Exactly...what kind of sick place is the mind of anyone who would make a link such as this?

Well when republicans start talking about sex things just get out of hand.

goatboyslim @ 32:

As someone raised in the country, I knew guys who would fuck farm animals, and they were without exception straight young guys who couldn't get laid any other way. Occasionally you might hear of an older guy getting busted for it, but maybe they had developed a taste for it, or maybe there wives had cut them off,(or died) and they were reverting to the habits of there youth.

My grandpa used to tell stories about stuff like this. Evidently it was common.

One where he help a friend up on a fence to reach a mule, and the fence got kicked out from under him... My grandpa thought it was funny enough to repeat for decades.

Have you seen a photo of Kathryn Jean Lopez?

My goodness, if it wasn't for bestiality, she'd never get laid by a human.

Hey, maybe she's just jealous?

Perhaps someone should send Ms. Lopez that wonderful, heart stopping poem by James Dickey "The Sheepchild."

Rick Santorum really needs to take his head out of his ass at least once in a while.

He's killed enough innocent brain cells from the lack of oxygen.

I think the first judicial execution in Massachusetts was of an 18-year-old farmhand wayyyyyy back in the late 1600s. It was for bestiality (he allegedly screwed a horse, chickens, and a duck, if I recall).

Of course, Massachusetts was a very rigid theocratic state at the time, so it's not surprising he couldn't get laid any other way, so he grabbed what was handy.

Once you have sheep you never go baaack.

There's a long tradition of bestiality...

Peter Kagan - Gordon Bok

Peter Kagan was a lonely man in the summer of his years. One day he got tired of being lonely, and he went away, off to the east. And when he came again he had a wife. She was strange, but she was kind and people liked her. She was good for Kagan. She kept him company and winter come to summer they were happy.

Kagan had a dory then, with a lugsail on her mast. He used to go offshore three, maybe four, days at a time setting out for the fish. Oh his wife was sad then. She didn't like to see him go. She'd go down to the sea sometimes and call to him:

Kagan, Kagan, Kagan,
Bring the dory home.
Wind and sea do follow thee,
And all the ledges calling thee.

He said he could hear her calling twenty miles to sea, and when he heard he, he would come home, whether he had fish or none.

She was a seal, of course, everybody knew it. Even Kagan. He knew that, but no one said anything to him.

Then, one day, in that year's autumn , Kagan said ``I've got to go now. Go offshore and get some fish.'' But his wife said ``No! Please don't go!'' She started crying. ``The winds are coming and the snows are coming.''

Kagan, Kagan, Kagan,
Don't go out to sea,
Stormy winds and snows do come,
And, oh, but I do fear for thee.

But Kagan wasn't afraid of snow, and it was early in the year. So Kagan put in his oars and went out to sea. Kagan sailed in the middle ground. The Wind was west all day and the fish were coming to him. Kagan read the writing on the water and in the sky. He saw haze very high up above the clouds and said ``That's all right for autumn -- only a change of wind. I'm not afraid of wind.''

But Kagan read it wrong, this time. The Wind went away, and then it came back, Southeast. And the fog came round.

Kagan said, ``I've got to go now. I'll find that gong buoy off the sunken ledges and then I'll know the best way home.'' So Kagan put up a sail and bore away to the Nor'ard for the gong.

But, oh, the Wind was watching.

The Wind backed around to the East'ard and came breezing on, against him. He sailed for a long time. The sail was pulling very hard. Finally the Wind was so strong that the sail tore out, so Kagan took it down and the dory went drifting.

He thought he could hear that gong buoy. It wasn't very far away.

Kagan, Kagan, Kagan,
Bring the dory home.
Wind and sea do follow thee,
And all the ledges calling thee.

But the dory went drifting, and by and by the gong buoy went away. Kagan said, ``All right then.'' He put in his oars and started to row back up for the gong.

But, oh, the Wind was watching. The Wind back around Northeast, making the seas confused. The Wind said, ``Listen! I have something to tell you.''

Kagan, rowing, ``I don't want to hear it.''

The Wind humps up then, making the sea short, making it hard for Kagan to row. Finally the seas are so steep that Kagan knows he isn't getting anywhere. So Kagan takes in the oars and again the dory goes drifting...

Kagan said, ``All right then. Now I've got something to show you.'' He took a slip of wood for a needle and waxed up a hand line for a thread and he sewed the sail up smaller -- sewed a reef in it.

The Wind said, ``What're you doing?''

Kagan said, ``You keeping watching.''

So Kagan put up a sail and again he bore away to to the Nor'ard for the gong.

But, oh, the Wind was watching.

The Wind backed around North-Nor'east. Kagan can't hold his course now. Kagan said, ``All right then.'' He brought the boat about. Now he's steering East'ard.

``You're heading out to sea.''

``I'm not afraid of water. I'll bring this boat about when I can fetch that gong buoy.''

``I'll veer on you; I'll go East.''

``You do that and I can hold my course.''

``I'll back on you.''

``You back too far and you've got a clear. You know that. I can keep ahead of you.''

``You may be smarter but I'm stronger.'' The Wind grew bigger then and the Wind blew harder. Finally the wind was so strong that the Sail said, ``I can't make it, Kagan!'' And Kagan said, ``I know that. Thank you.''

So Kagan took down the sail, and the dory went drifting.

Kagan took the sail off the yard and put it about him. ``Sail, keep me warm!''

``The sail can't keep you warm.''

The Wind snatched off North by East. ``I'll freeze you.''

``I'm not afraid of cold!''

But Kagan was afraid. He didn't know what to do. And oh, the Wind is working now. The Wind brings ice and snow. The Wind blows long and long and black.

Kagan says, "I'm dying. Sail, keep me warm!" and the sail said, "I can't do it Kagan."

Kagan dying, and the wind blowing.

Kagan, Kagan, Kagan,
Turn ye now to me.
Turn your back unto the Wind
And all the weary windy sea.

Kagan, Kagan, Kagan,
Lay ye down to sleep.
For I do come to comfort thee
All and thy dear body keep.

So Kagan lay on the bottom of the boat, and he tried not to be afraid of the dying, and he dreamed of her then, his wife. He dreamed she was coming to him, and he heard a long calling down the wind and he raised himself up, and he saw her. Down the smoking, storming sea she came. Over the rail of the dory she came, laughing to his arms.

And all in the night and in the storm they did lay, and the Wind went away, and the storm went away, and in the morning they found him...

...asleep, with a sail wrapped around him. And there was a seal, lying there with him, curled over him like a blanket, and the snow was upon the seal's back.

Kagan, Kagan, Kagan,
Bring the dory home.
Wind and sea do follow thee,
And all the ledges calling thee.

the slippery slope arguments by the Cyrus Scofield cult are sickening

(R) . . . now that a young republican !

You know some say that being a Republican in itself leads to being a sexual deviant. Their poster boys Foley and Vitter for example. Heh!

Dean, I'm a Republican, and a degenerate. But - and this is very important - I'm liberal and open enough to admit it to people.

It's part of a bigger push to move the Republican party from true Conservative values to an Authoritarian mindset posing as conservatism.... and it's really Soviet-style Communism. Hence, the American Gulags cropping up in various parts of the country.

peter @ 1:

the repugs shout gay and they turn out to be gay - is this going to be the case with santorum and his dog

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fCutvXccFlA

I'll bet Lopez has a Great Dane and a big jar of peanut butter waiting at home!

What kind of a worldview draws this concluion?

One that has an agenda and requires the parroting of talking points invented by irrational people.

That's what.

Kathryn Jean Lopez's obsession with bestiality is based on her imaginary experiences with heterosexual intercourse, which cause her to think of all men as beasts (as she is thought of by all men who know her). Thus male gay marriage is a sodomic orgy between two beasts, in her mind.

She seems to be silent on the bestiality aspects of gay marriage between women, and perhaps she is not considering 'legalizing' any of her lesbian affairs, which may be a good thing, since insiders report that many of her sexual partners consider her a 'butch beast'.

As far as Santorum goes, well, his reputation is such that not even the lowliest sheep in the fields will lie down with him.

I heard the kid was a Republican.

Ok if two werewolves got it on, would it be homosexuality or beastiality?

Marge @ 28:

See. Normal people don't think about stuff like this. They don't equate bestiality with anybody. These types of things don't enter a normal person 's mind. It is just the sexual perverts call republicans who dream this up.

Maybe they're just mad a Republican Senator didn't do it first or something.

YS;

I'd say beastial homosexuality.. IF they were under the full moon at the time.. Otherwise... Just garden variety homosexuality type sex... Unless it was a boy werewolf and a girl werewolf... In which case probably just garden variety outdoor animal sex unless it wasn't under a full moon, in which case it was just garden variety hex vanilla sex... unless they were going oral in which case it was a morals crime in many red states.. Which means it probably also falls under the garden variety infidelity type sex since we all know het folks are about as faithful on average to one another as priests are to that whole celibacy thing... Unless they were going all anal which means you need to refer back to that morals crime thing in many red states... Unless...unless....

Ya know YS? We really need a flow chart to track all this conservative peeping Tom shit and the various snoopy permutations they probalby sit up and lose sleep over all the time.... I guess, really, this is the kind of nuts and bolts results that we should expect when Uncle Scam decides for the sake of a few religiopha-reeks, to climb into bed with us at night... Be we people, animals or supernatural creatures of folklore...sheesh.. You still got that IV drip from yesterday buddie??? I think I need another shot...

And then there's the continueing Pat Tillman story... Military hero, football star, unfortunate recipiant of terminal friendly fire or just a murder victim... I guess one has to decide for themselves... Sure as shit noone from the gub-mint is going to give us the real story on it...They haven't to date.. I don't expect that to change.. They're too busy trying to figure out whose sleeping with who and why...And who we all pray to while we're screwing and whether or not we're all paying proper homage to a picture of Chimpy on the mantel while we're doing all this copulating and praying.. You know, the real important shit............... JD

Ah yes,

-'godless' Massachusetts; where those godless puritans landed,

-'godless' Massachusetts; home of the Salem Witch Trials,

-'godless' Massachusetts; home of the last holdouts against legalized gambling, when all the surrounding god-fearing states had long ago taken the money and run,

-'godless' Massachusetts; home of the Blue Laws, where you absolutely could not buy alcohol anywhere on the Sabbath, PERIOD. If you wanted beer, you had to drive to the state-run liquor store in Republican/Libertarian-held NH,
(where if I recall, nobody &%$#*&!! tells them what to ^&%$$#*@!! do. 'Live Free or Die,' beeeee-haaatch!)

-'godless' Massachusetts; where before Deval Patrick, there was
GOP "double Guantanamo" Romney,
GOP "gotta get some groceries with the state helicopter" Swift,
GOP "what the hell am I doing here?" Cellucci,
GOP "I'm bored, I wanna be Ambassador to Mexico, NOW!" Weld,
....in fact, there hadn't been a Democratic governor there since Dukakis, when by the way business was quite good.

I remember a trip to Lopez' immaculate island of Manhattan as a teenager, seeing BEER on sale right next to milk & cheese in a CONVENIENCE STORE on a SUNDAY! Gracious! I blushed! It blew my fragile little godless mind.

Did the sheep consent?

Sheeplover to Lopez: fuck ewe!

There may be a trend here for Mittwitt. First, his beastly treatment of the family dog, now one of his former subjects is friendly with the farm animals (Simpsons quote:"I now pronounce you man and cow"). Maybe some connection to Michael Vick will come up.

Excellent thread here. I agree with Marge. And dead on Eternal. You STILL can't get beer or wine in supermarkets. And a referendum to make it legal DIDN"T PASS! In fact a local police chief did many ads against, IN UNIFORM! Fortunately he was able to do the filming for them during the many hours he spent collecting doubletime guarding a hole in the gound at a road work site. Yes, what a state!

How much you want to bet Santorum has a copy of
that surveillance tape and has already watched it a 1000 times?

Beastiality is far older than christianlity, so if they really want to return to traditional values...

and, here I thought it was the Church said it was okay

Salmineo @ 6:

Oh where is that story about the Arab being forced to marry his goat.....

Or the French Foreign Legion one about the guys chasing a herd of camels: one asks, 'Why are we running?" And his
friend replies, "You don't want to get an ugly one, do you?"

In Scotland there are tons of jokes about 'shagging sheep' - in Wyoming too...maybe that's why Cheney looks so testy all the
time...