BREAKING: It's Payback Time: FBI Raids Home of Suspected NSA Leaker
By Nicole Belle Saturday Aug 04, 2007 2:35pmOur recent Round Up contributer Jon Perr caught this potential blockbuster:
This past week, the Bush administration added insult to injury over its illegal program of NSA domestic surveillance. During the very time Congress was debating codifying President Bush's lawbreaking by revising the FISA law many of his allies have been afraid to publicly challenge as unconstitutional, Alberto Gonzales' DOJ was raiding the home of a former Justice official to identify the person who first brought the illicit program to light.
As Michael Isikoff details in Newsweek, a team of FBI agents raided the home of Thomas M. Tamm, a veteran prosecutor and former official of the Office of Intelligence Policy and Review (OIPR) within DOJ:
The agents seized Tamm's desktop computer, two of his children's laptops and a cache of personal files. Tamm and his lawyer, Paul Kemp, declined any comment. So did the FBI. But two legal sources who asked not to be identified talking about an ongoing case told NEWSWEEK the raid was related to a Justice criminal probe into who leaked details of the warrantless eavesdropping program to the news media. The raid appears to be the first significant development in the probe since The New York Times reported in December 2005 that Bush had authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on the international phone calls and e-mails of U.S. residents without court warrants.
Even as Alberto Gonzales' was feebly deflecting perjury charges by apologizing for "creating confusion" wit his comments about "no serious disagreement" in 2004 within the administration over its NSA homeland spying scheme, the Attorney General was dispatching the FBI to investigate one of those purportedly disagreeable officials. Read on...
Crossposted at dKos; More at HuffPo
Let's see how much MSM coverage this gets...I'm betting not a lot.
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Just watched V is fior Vendetta... How ironic.
Keep voting for the Demopussies, they are so much better than those awful Republiholes. We're fucked.
Peace, Steve
im sure bush will pardon him.
They are just getting warmed up. They won't stop until we take their shiney badges away.
Thats Bush's legacy alright: whistleblowers are more dangerous to America than its actual enemies around the world. They hate whistleblowers more than they hate Al Qaeda; they hate Democrats more than they hate Al Qaeda. Those who dare expose his plans: for Bush, they are the real enemy.
surely this will get thrown out of court.
or maybe the furor will pardon him
It's up at Newsweek
Jesus Fucking Christ. These people must be stopped.
What country would you move to? I wonder when the Jews, and others that spoke out against Hitler thought about getting out of Germany. I have my passport, but I am watching very closely of when to get out. I thank our Canadians for offering asylum to us. We have reached the walking stage of Fascism in Amerika. Only 2 Republican voted against this new spying power, and yet I thought it was the Republican that most wanted to defeat Communism over in Russia, and never knew that they wanted to live like that for themselves.
FBI are the Gestopo? The FBI agents that are liberal already been purposely washed out.
It can't get thrown out of court. It's legal. Even if it somehow does get thrown out, the administration's goal is equally intimidation as it is punishment.
AF
Anacher Forester @ 10:
They are having a conversation with all the rats perched at the edge of the ship's deck.
This all sounds so very communist.Castro does this(or did )this..NK does this sort of thing..China does this sort of thing....now the US does it too.........gggrrrreeeaaaatttttt.
carefulwiththatAXEeugene @ 6:
This patriot is going to be crucified. Message - Mess with the Administration and you will be destroyed.
in less than his two terms, bush and cheney have turned the USA
from a democracy to a fascist state. thanks alot you fucking
reichwingnut christian neocon bastards.
Welcome to Club Gitmo.
Bush/Cheney/Gonzo apparently can get away with anything they want to. I don't think if the 3 of them went on live tv and feasted on live kittens and puppies that enough republicans in congress would break away from them to allow the Dems enough votes to do anything at all to reign them in.
This is not my country. I want my country back.
Once again, bluedogs dems, bush has shitted in your face again. Why was this not published before yesterday's vote in the house? Would it have mattered with the bluedogs? The bluedogs are the lowest of the low, how in the hell can you vote with the repugs on anything? You are hurting the party bluedogs, just move over the the repug party, at least you will be honest. Got damn I hate bluedog dems and repugs.
Correction: Al Gonzales didn't order anyone to investigate this leaker, Robert Mueller more than likely did. Gonzo is nothing and has the job (for which he's so underwhelmingly qualified) only because Bush wants to hear affirmatives all the time. And he does. Al doesn't disappoint Bush, whom he adores.
The search warrant was classified. LMAO.
We have a warrant but you are not cleared to read it - move aside.
breakspear @ 19:
Mueller works for Gonzo. No conflict, huh?
freder421 @ 18:
Hurting the party??? Don't you mean hurting the country?
This is the payback Alberto Gonzales promised a year ago when he went on ABC's "This Week" and declared that reporters could be arrested for publishing material like this:
Gonzales went on to propose that there needs to be an accommodation between the right to a free press, and the government’s ability to “go after criminal activity.” How he arrives at that conclusion is unstated, but I think that most Constitutional scholars would agree that the Bill of Rights has precedence over a power-hungry prosecutor.
And now the laws against retaliation against whistleblowing will be forgotten.
And then the conscum journey towards the dark side will be complete.
Read "The Sorrows of Empire" by Chalmers Johnson. We have a choice between empire and the republic. We can't have both and choosing empire means losing our freedoms. Which will it be?
The FBI, CIA and IRS are foreign invaders. The do not work for the American people.
In a very strange way, the American soil is a battleground but it is not one for the war on terror. It is a battleground for the Republic and those who support real freedom are losing. We will all be diminished by the loss.
They better hope I don't serve on the Jury.
FreeDUMB @ 28:
And why is that?
I agree, these people need to go! How many people jumping over the fence at the white house does it take to overwhelm the SS? I'm just wondering aloud..
Any surprise this happens the day after congress votes to legitimize this program. If Tamm serves anytime it will be a travesty not only because he courageously blew the whistle on a program that once upon a time was blatantly illegal in this country, but also because the congress we elected to put a check on (if not derail) King George's reign just rolled over and in effect destroyed any hopes he might have had of mounting a successful defense. Good job Dems ... you just corn holed the man that gave you the Bush administration's head on a platter. Next step, arrange yourselves a little hunting trip with dead-eye Dick.
Is it coincidence or apocrypha that this happens just after Bush's spying powers on innocent Americans is OK'd by Congress? It almost makes me wish that, if the administration is going to abuse those powers, that the first victims are the campaigns of Democratic congresspersons that voted to OK it.
People need to wrap their minds around the fact that Bush/Cheney and the GOP are domestic enemies- in the starkest sense of that term.
They are not members of a "loyal opposition". To consider them as such is tantamount to a collaboration with tyranny.
They are the mortal enemies of our freedoms and liberties.
And people whose sense of fair play recoil from that rude truth should wise up.
The more things change, the more they remain the same.
I recall that during the Nixon administration, a group was formed to plug leaks in the White House. This group is commonly referred to as the "plumbers."
On another note, do you think they'll ever get around to looking for whoever leaked the information about data-mining last weekend?
This is what's called "The Gonzo Goosestep", its a new dance the FBI is doing.
This country is morphing into Deutschland Uber Ugliss !
Everyone who's not a Bush supporters on the "List"
Your either with us or against us.
Suspend habeas corpus, check. Claim extra and non constitutional powers and privilege for the Executive Branch and proceed and enforce them, check. Compromise the First Amendment assembly clause, cloud the division of church and state, check. Neutralize the Fourth Amendment by having Congress approve impeachable grounds as now allowable warrantless search and seizure, check. Claim the ability to suspend the Constitution under national crisis, check. Declare National crisis, suspend 2008 Presidential election. President for the duration of the War on Terror.
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Would you trust this guy?
http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/M...
L.A. Confidential @ 36:
And I am a self declared enemy combatant of this criminal and treasonous administration. I also happen to be a fierce pacifist and firmly believe in the power of ordinary people over fascism and tyranny. We will all need to relearn the lessons of Ghandi.
carefulwiththatAXEeugene @ 2:
Bush will hang him. Gonzales had his jackboots raid the home of the guy that told the media that the NSA was breaking the law. This is revenge by the administration.
L.A. Confidential @ 38:
No.
I'm betting this will get a lot of "MSM" play - this is going to take some of the heat off of Gonzo. Instead of hearing about how Gonzo is a liar, now we'll be hearing about Gonzo going after the "traitors" who leaked the NSA wiretapping program to the "Terrorists".
Isnt it amazing that they would investigate the guy that provided information on an illegal operation and not investigate the illegal operation ...
... not really once you realize just who you are dealing with.
It's over PILA.
living_abomination @ 42:
I may have missed it, is the MSM covering the lying Gonzo or the bridge in Minesotta?
anon @ 43:
You got that right. Gonzos been a cornered animal recently and I bet he's just licking his chops to get revenge and get even.
So, leak the name of a CIA agent, and you're fine. Leak info on this administration's illegal abuse of civil rights, and you're toast.
Hmm.
L.A. Confidential @ 36:
Well that comment works both ways and we can create a "List" too. I would also say, to our advantage, that our "List" has less people on it than theirs.
Gonzo is really making it hard not to break Godwin's principle.
anon @ 44:
Both. I've just watched CNN cover Gonzo and the bridge collapse. I've also found quite a bit of Gonzo crap in the Buffalo News up here, including a nice couple editorials about crucifying the bastard.
**Apologies to the Muppet Gonzo.
Noodles @ 32:
I don't think it's a coincidence at all. Congress rolled and gave them a clear signal that they would not even attempt to slow down their fascism train.
Noodles @ 32:
What makes you think they weren't already?
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Q U E S T I O N:
If it weren't for this leaker, would we know about this super secret, illegal domestic spy agency?
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Q U E S T I O N:
If it weren’t for this leaker, would we know that our Rights were being VIOLATED by this Administration?
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Q U E S T I O N:
If it weren’t for this leaker, would we care?
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"Jesus Fucking Christ. These people must be stopped."
Yep.
I don't mind saying that this stuff if really starting to scare the hell out of me.
dadams @ 14:
Who says they're Christian? I'm a Christian and I'm against the spying and the Constitution-shredding!
And the usA is supposed to be a REPUBLIC, not a DEMOCRACY.
Tamm is a veteran prosecutor. I can't wait to hear the twisted logic as they vilify and swiftboat him.
This country is so screwed every which way from Sunday. We are a Humpty Dumpty nation.
Your "Precious" Democrats are helping to push the USA over the cliff. Give up the BLIND OBEDIENCE to these mutts and start thinking for yourself.
Individuals have international duties which transcend the national obligations of obedience.
Therefore, Individual citizens have the duty to violate domestic laws to prevent crimes against peace and humanity from occurring. Nuremberg War Crime Tribunal, 1950
By their fruits, you shall know them.
Question:
Would the raid on Tamms home have been conducted if the Dems had not approved Bushs wire tapping bill?
And if that were the case, did the Dem leadership know that they were providing the impetus for the raid on Tamm?
I believe there is more here than we know.
Blind lead the Blind @ 58:
Dude, I agree - but you sound like a cartoon supervillian. Those democrats are not exactly "precious" around here either, thats the big difference between left and right here - the republicans will stick by their criminals, think Tom Delay, most dems will chuck a crooked democrat in the garbage as fast as they'll throw a republican under the bus. **note i am referring to real people, not politicians, they aren't even human beings anymore**
FreeDUMB @ 28:
Don't worry you won't. Besides, by the time this comes to court jury trials will probably have been abolished by executive order.
Who is this Tamm anyway? More than likely he is a low ranking fall guy to make it appear that the F.B.I. is conducting a real investigation. It's a little like their non-investigation into the anthrax attacks.
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I don't know man, but lets find out, I'm slow and fat but I could block some of the stingballs for those behind me.
I bet they got those sound guns installed by now. May have to wear earplugs and communicate by saying "What! Serpentine!?"
It just makes me wonder, if this administration is doing nothing wrong, why are they working so very hard to hide EVERYTHING they do?
Let's send them all a pair of diapers with the words
"Terrorist protection panties" and thank them for the increased surveillance.
Send the first hundred pairs to Kit Bond:
Kansas City Office:
911 Main St., Suite 2224
Kansas City, MO 64105
(816)471-7141 St. Louis Office:
7700 Bonhomme, #615
St. Louis, MO 63105
(314)725-4484
Cape Girardeau Office:
Federal Building, Rm. 140
339 Broadway
Cape Girardeau, MO 63701
(573)334-7044 Springfield Office:
300 S. Jefferson, Suite 401
Springfield, MO 65806
(417)864-8258
Columbia Office:
1001 Cherry Street, Suite 204
Columbia, MO 65201
(573) 442-8151
Just so "he can sleep at night."
He is very interesting in who leaked info on his illegal wiretapping program but not in who leaked Valerie Plame to the media. Gotta love these people. They are truly beyond the absurd.
So we prosecute the leaker while the people who broke the FISA law in the first place can hide behind "Executive Privilege"? Tyrrany!
Bush and gang are paying back to the democratic party as to what President Clinton proposed after the aftershock of the Oklahoma City bombing sent Congress scurrying to trade off civil liberties for an illusion of public safety. A good ten weeks before that terrible attack, however with a barely noticed pen stroke President Bill Clinton virtually killed off the Fourth Amendment when he approved a law to expand the already extraordinary powers of the strangest creation in the history of the federal judiciary.
When Clinton signed Executive Order 12949 on February 9, the frightening mandate of the FISA, court was greatly expanded: It now has legal authority to approve black-bag operations to authorize Department of Justice (DoJ) requests to conduct physical as well as electronic searches, without obtaining a warrant in open court, without notifying the subject, without providing an inventory of items seized. The targets need not be under suspicion of committing a crime, but may be investigated when probable cause results solely from their associations or status: for example, belonging to, or aiding and abetting organizations deemed to pose a threat to U.S. national security.
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Now, it is Bushies turn to be on top of the ladder to make us squirm. Both parties are bringing down this nation. Forget about Al-Qaeda. lol.
leak to help bush co. = not a problem, stonewall, lie, pardon. good bushie
leak to defend america and it's liberties = full investigation with all the power of the federal bush co. government, prosecute to the fullest, make an example of bad bushie behavior, intimidate and silence future leakers.
and no true leadership in sight to put a stop to bush co.'s M.O. as the majority of americans are asking and praying will happen.
americans need to start demanding.
i have pasted the enough is enough stage a long time ago.
It is imperative that everyone call Senate Judiciary members (aka Leahy, etc) and "suggest" that they call Tamm before Congress to testify on all that he knows of the illegal and unconstitutional domestic spying by the NSA in return for FULL IMMUNITY! The Congress gave immunity to the criminals involved in Iran/Contra and they were breaking the law and violating the Constitution. Tamm was serving the Constitution and is, de facto, a hero. He must be rewarded with full immunity in return for his testimony. End this injustice before it goes anywhere - and get the goods on Bush.
So they took his children's laptops, eh? Did they pluck the lollipop out of his toddler's mouth on the way back from trashing the sun-porch?
kablooie @ 74:
Nah, they'll alert the RIAA for all of the MP3s they'll find.
Seriously, if BushCo ups the ante in this way (going after "bad" leakers), safety for the intelligence community will depend on all of them outing all of the illegal stuff they know about...or they'll be picked off one by one. I'd grant immunity to all career types just to get things started.
Praedor Atrebates @ 73:
Sad part the guy's in the clutch of goons, his poor family! Really, can't the senate intervene? Probably not. Tamm's in a hole he may never get out of.
Warrantless Spying To Usher In Brain Chips For The Masses
Extracted From: Monitoring People's Thoughts Through Warrantless Searches
The Network That Preys Together
It should be obvious by now, that the CIA and their network were not afraid of the oversight committees (a dog and pony show for the American people) that was set up in the 70's to watch over the intelligence community around the same time this black budget program appears to have first come online.
So you have the CIA with its documented sordid past of being involved in, overthrowing governments, assassinations, drug running, spying on Americans, conducting human experimentation, corroborating with Nazi war criminals, working with mobsters, money laundering, and here recently bring involved in the medieval practice of torture, sneaking around in society for 30 or so years, while having technology to monitor peoples thoughts, building up a network, while hiding behind a cloak of secrecy,
They used their thought monitoring technology to build up their network, by screwing with peoples minds and terrorizing them in order to manipulate them to do their bidding. Blackmailing others they found useful to further their cause, along with a segment of evil like minded defects they chose to let in on their plot,
These people prey on society like a dangerous spreading cancer. Although their network that I and others talk about and warn you about seems to be made up of a wide cross section of the population, some of the most useful individuals that make up their network, that they use to mold society to their liking, are judges, politicians, civil servants, military officers, a segment of the intelligence community, and of course the press.
Later on in order to legitimize their covert operation and bring online their technologies for the surveillance society, they (the secret network within the Government and their comrades) staged and/or let 9/11 happen. Then they passed dangerous, draconian legislation trampling the Bill of Rights, the Constitution and the rule of law and started a Global Never Ending War on Terror, that in truth, in fact, in reality, rests and is based on a foundation of lies and fraud.
These people are best described as double traitors. Not only are they traitors to their own country, they are also traitors to the human race that they seek to control, enslave, and exterminate.
Common sense should tell you that they never would have tried to pull off the made for tv attack on September 11, 2001 on the World Trade Center had they not of had an embedded network in place to make sure the event happened, the personnel in place to suppress and cover up what really happened, and the means to put out prolonged propaganda in the form of spin and disinformation in order to keep the public distracted, misinformed, dumbed down, confused and terrorized by their continual fear mongering.
Considering the fact that the illegal Iran Contra affair, (known as the secret government within the government) was trading guns for drugs and went on for five years before it became known and it involved 1000's of participants, it should not be difficult to fathom what I said above about having a secret network in place to cover for the real criminals that had most to gain from such an event.
http://breakingwire.com/Pages/ciafamilyjewels2.html
Flashback - Super-soldiers may get brain-chip
US military experts are attempting to create an army of super-human soldiers who will be more intelligent and deadly thanks to a microchip implanted in their brains.
Scientists believe the implant will vastly improve the memory of troops so that they can recall every detail of their training and become more effective fighters.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17013218-13762,00.html
Smart Dust
"Smart dust" devices are tiny wireless microelectromechanical sensors (MEMS) that can detect everything from light to vibrations. Thanks to recent breakthroughs in silicon and fabrication techniques, these "motes" could eventually be the size of a grain of sand, though each would contain sensors, computing circuits, bidirectional wireless communications technology and a power supply.
http://www.computerworld.com/mobiletopics/mobile/story/0,10801,79572,00....
Blind lead the Blind @ 58:
who would jasus follow?
The FBI has proven themselves over and over again to be complicit in all things concerned with political repression, political reprisal. they spy on Amrican dissentors they carry the water and do the bidding of any two bit tyrant that comes to power. They are a despicable organization and have been since their inception under Hoover.
Personally I think they are running cover for the real perpetrators of 9/11 and the anthrax attacks. These creeps get no respect from me.
What of Mark Klein, the AT&T technician who broke the story about the NSA secret spying program in which "wiretapping" consisted of a secret room maintained by the NSA in which a splitter enabled copying of ALL domestic and foreign internet traffic. He took the story to the LA Times which killed it after a visit from then-chief of the NSA. He subsequently took the story to the NYT which went forward with it. I believe an election was held meanwhile, before the NYT broke it. Will his assets be seized? Have they been seized? Does the civil rights organization EFF have a basis for their lawsuit against AT&T in which they were charged with illegally spying on US citizens, now that our Democrat-led Congress has given the administration the legislation that it demanded? The government has been trying to stop the lawsuit, the new legislation as I understand releases corporations from liability. Why did the administration wait until the day after the legislation they demanded was passed to search Mr. Tamm with a "classified warrant"? Will Mr. Tamm join Mr. Wilson and Mrs. Plame as the latest victims of a government intent on vengeance against those that would dare bring attention to an entire citizenry being misled and manipulated? Have they likewise "wiretapped" every cave in which the terrorists are lurking, ready to launch their state-of-the-art ICBMs from their stone-age hideaways?
Praedor Atrebates @ 73:
Can this be done?
Harley @ 13:
You know..I did a sculptor once or twice in a place that businesses got sand from. I sculptured a man with his butt in the air....wouldn't you know it..I showed up to look at it again and there is a tree stick shoved up it's, how can I say this nice,....ah..in his butt place.
The artwork was not harmed...only enhanced buy someone other than myself. But hey....
Guys....gov.....all of us are not scared by you) forget showing the enlightened ones anymore Bin Deadin in a cave We all know...we blog...we create...we know....
We create art.....you all create lies, along with your mainstream paid news.
Make no mistake.......we will win in the end.....
Then watchyagonnadowhentheycomeforyou/andyourwickedkind.com
"The neocons and criminals in our government would do well to remember this...
To borrow a phrase from the orient, their "bad karma" is catching up to them as we speak.."
Just wait.
There will be more "Patriots" who will come forward very soon.
Thursday July 5, 2007 was a new beginning.
If we look at the true words of John S. Koppel, longtime attorney at the U.S. Department of Justice, who ended his editorial that ran in the Denver Post on Thursday 05 July 2007....
"I realize that this constitutionally protected statement subjects me to a substantial risk of unlawful reprisal from extremely ruthless people who have repeatedly taken such action in the past. But I am confident that I am speaking on behalf of countless thousands of honorable public servants, at Justice and elsewhere, who take their responsibilities seriously and share these views. ...And some things must be said, whatever the risk."
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America. A Great and Good Nation.
The time has come to draw a line in the sand and hold Cheney, Bush and these traitors ultimately accountable.
The Time is Now.
Fear and intimidation.....
This particular act's flags....
Sad that it has boiled down to this level.....
Wonder if they've been on Tamm's tail only recently? Is he the Deep Throat at Kos?
IT TIME TO CALL THE A-TEAM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4d7PUsFr2M
Are the Dems this fucking stupid, or am I? Did they not just present the GOP with the opportunity to listen in on them for six months of the election season?
World zionism is behind all the sickness! Go to IAMTHEWITNESS.COM and listen to Ben Freedman this is the 100% truth about what we face as a world!
All you neo-liberal are completely delusional!
We are fighting a new kind of war. A war against fanatical extremists who hate everything about us.
We must fight them with every means possible.
We must not allow these so-called whistle-blowers to undermine the task at hand!
Ultimately, we are the source of all that is good and a true patriot will always stand by their government during a state-of-war!
Anyone who opposes the governments war against these fanatics is a traitor to this great land... & should be sent to live in Iran or something!
Patriot4Life @ 89:
COUNT ME IN ASSHOLE!
New Party Name: Cave-o-crats. Greeat. They are going to go out and tout their little SCHIP bill and whatever else they passed. on their Saturday before vacation. It means NOTHING. They think of it as bipartisan--we pass two we like and one they like. But doh! one gets signed by Bush and two get vetoed. These nutless wonders keep caving with promises to do something in half a year. First timetables, now civil liberties. These assmonkeys need to wake up and remember who voted them in and what we want or we should replace their @$$e$ with independents or other Dems of better flavoring. No more BS. We want results!
tyree @ 90:
Sadly, that the best you can come up with??... Its people like you who make me SICK!!
All you liberal types better pick a side, fast!... decide which side you stand for... either you are for the USA OR (unwittingly) aiding the enemy!
[OK 'Patriot' 4 life. You and your hate filled rhetoric are done here. Since we make you SICK, I suggest you post at a wingnut site-Sitemonitor]
told you asshole im with you , where can i get one of them brown shirt you nazi pricks wear?
Patriot4Life @ 92:
say i got an idea maby you and i could join the marines together and ask to go to iraq on the buddy system!
Patriot4Life-
A simple question for you: would you still be so enamored of all the powers amassed by the Executive branch over the last 6 years if a Democrat were residing in the White House rather than a Republican? We have a Constitution, all of our elected officials take a vow to protect and uphold it so help them God. If you're ok with a democrat having the same sweeping powers that Bush currently holds, fine. If not, you're nothing more than a pathetic little hypocrite spouting the latest talking points from the GOP. I for one, am not ok with it, I don't care what party is in power. Our founding fathers set this country up the way they did for a reason. It's worked pretty well for over 200 years. It's only taken 6 to undo all of it.
concernedmom @ 95:
are you calling my little buddy a pathetic piece of amphibian shit ? im appaled!
i think anybody that uses patriot for posting will most assuredly take the call and stand in line at their local recruiters , of course if one has a boil on ones ass and cant go id understand!
oh and by the way patriot im staying right here and you or what armys hauling me off to iran?
Patriot4Life @ 92:
I've picked my side asshole. Now give me your coordinates.
[You'll have to find his mom's basement's coordinates on any popular hate filled Reich wing site. This *cough* 'Patriotic' troll has been banned-Sitemonitor]
Crooks and Liars » BREAKING: It’s Payback Time: FBI Raids Home of Suspected NSA Leaker
This past week, the Bush administration added insult to injury over its illegal program of NSA domestic surveillance. During the very time Congress was debating codifying President Bush’s lawbreaking by revising the FISA law many of his allies have b...
RepublicansAreEvilDemocratsSuck @ 91:
Good name . We can call the House Chambers the Crat-Cave®
This reproter is lucky he's only getting raided.
Remember this guy? What was his name again? The internets have been totally scrubbed of the story. All that remains is the Digg page.
http://digg.com/politics/Activist_anti_Bush_lawyer_falls_to_death_at_hotel
And:
http://www.forgottenvictims.com/David%20Rosenbaum.htm
Then recently there's:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291408,00.html
and
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/08/03/OAKSLAY.TMP
nincompoop @ 102:
i suspect the c.i a is working overtime!
i see
"This reproter is lucky he’s only getting raided.
Remember this guy? What was his name again? The internets have been totally scrubbed of the story. All that remains is the Digg page."
Here's a fuller report thanks to our Canadian friends: http://www.quebec-politique.com/index/post-115694.html
“We must remember that our work is not done,” Bush prodded. “This bill is a temporary, narrowly focused statute to deal with the most immediate shortcomings in the law.”
Why bother, Bush has stated that this warrantless wiretapping is only in it's beginning phases. Knowing about the wiretapping hardly kept the medias attention. Maybe if the leaked information was Blond, Famous or Pretty, and disappeared while walking near a collapsed bridge on a reality TV show. We are the frog in the warming pot of water, they are taking our freedoms one degree at a time and soon enough we'll be cooked.
tyree @ 103:
In light of the stories above, look again at this news conference when Bush says Al-Qaeda is after reporters' (David Gregory,, et al) children and decide if this is a veiled threat for asking embarrassing questions?
So, through the courageous actions of one staffer on the inside, we now know of this one serious breach of our constitution. How many dozens of similar violations are taking place, completely hidden from public view?
If Mr. Tamm had been a sufficiently "loyal soldier", this important story would have never seen the light of day. Is this terrifying, or what?
Mike @ 106:
Ain't that the truth.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
It's Payback Time: FBI Raids Home of Suspected NSA Leaker
[...]This past week, the Bush administration added insult to injury over its illegal program of NSA domestic surveillance. During the very time Congress was debating codifying President Bush?s lawbreaking by revising the FISA law many of his allies hav...
[...] Crooks and Liars » BREAKING: It’s Payback Time: FBI Raids Home of Suspected NSA Leaker whoa, this is scary. They seized his desktop computer, two of his children’s laptops and personal files. lots more info at the llinks in the article. Its unfortunate we’ve truly lost the 4th amendment, while the Dems controlled both houses!?!?!?! (tags: civil+rights NSA) [...]
I'm starting to think that Bush and Mugabe have a lot in common
Dear Mr/s sitemonitor.
We are capable of sifting the gold from the dirt. Every time you wield the editors pen, you weaken this site, and reduce its value to real thinkers. If you edit out opposing views, you weaken our ability to think for ourselves, and slant the conversation in only one direction, making it more polarized and less of a conversation. If we all talked to only those who agreed with us, we would be as closed minded as those who attempt to hijack a thread to "poison" it with junk thoughts or so-called "conspiracy theories". Edit out the hate, but not the ideas that cause dissension and further debate.
This is one of the greatest sites for such threaded conversations, we want it to stay great!
[We make decisions based on the commenting policy. We do not delete comments because we disagree with the poster's ideology. Your claim is bogus. You obviously haven't seen enough of the site to know that what I've said is true. Don't come to this site and tell us how to run it.-Sitemonitor]
I agree with #109.
In an online forum, I posted a letter I wrote to my representatives, in which I compared Cheney's "4th branch" argument with Caesar crossing the Rubicon (i.e. both show similar contempt for the rule of law). I, too, was dismissed by many as a "mother's basement dweller".
I am a 45 year old who has supported myself since I was 18, and I don't take kindly to such slanderous assessments. Regardless of one's political views, one should not be subjected to such baseless insult. Sitemonitor, please don't slander people just because their political views differ from yours. Just because some of them do it to us doesn't mean we should do it to them.
As Keith Olbermann said about the guy who confronted Bill O'Reilly at his home, there are lines that the good guys don't cross. I submit that unsubstantiated insults a la "basement dweller" cross the line.
[Looking at the 24 posts you've made on the site since June 24, I don't see where a sitemonitor ever interacted with you, much less called you a basement dweller. Nor do I see the post about which you speak. Either you use more than one identity here, or you've mistaken us for another site upon which you post-Sitemonitor]>
[...] as unconstitutional, Alberto Gonzales’ DOJ was raiding the home wonder woman teaser posterread more | digg [...]
Congress just legalized the president ... so shut the f*** up.
Good to know the Republicans don't have a monopoly on authoritarianism . . .
In response to No. 76:
You have not seen anything as yet the terror that will befall on mankind.
Evil will be rampant in the last days.
Man and Beast (Beastly implants)
"And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake like a dragon. . . . And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads."
Revelation 13:11, 13:16Card Sharks
"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."
Revelation 13:1
Future Shock
THE PRESIDENT and his cabinet are dead--slain by a revolutionary force. Martial law is declared. People are told to remain calm and go about their business as usual. But things are not at all normal. Men clad in unfamiliar military uniforms are conducting house-by-house searches. The intellectuals are being taken from the university. Women are dismissed from their jobs, by order of the military. Soon after, all Compucounts (digital bank accounts) owned by women are cut off. Thus begins the restructuring of democratic society into a system in which women are entirely powerless, subjugated by the male "commanders."
Like George Orwell's 1984, this vision of the future, dreamed up by Canadian writer Margaret Atwood for her 1985 novel, The Handmaid's Tale, was both a stinging criticism of government intervention in private lives and a warning to readers to be wary, lest such an incredible scenario actually occur.
The future world Orwell created for his readers during the 1940s was one in which people were brainwashed by the government into a state of perfect, blind obedience to a state-created entity known as Big Brother--now a household metaphor for attempts by government to monitor or restrict the citizenry.http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/12.12.96/implants-9650.html
early warning @ 113:
this is their site, if they dont want lame conspiracy theories hijacking the thread, thats their deal. if you want a free-for-all, create your own blog and make your own rules.
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crazylove @ 85:
I was wondering the same thing.
I think this is part of an untold story of the Bush Administration intimidating members of Congress, which has been going on since a mysterious still-not-caught mailer of anthrax sent the poison to disagreeable Democrats in Congress, and liberal media people. We need to grasp the underlying extortion in those messages. I think we've been underestimating the effect on this intimidation for getting laws passed to legalize Bush's crimes retroactively etc.... No member of our government is willing to risk becoming the next Paul Wellstone. It's disgusting that Congress critters are choosing their own hides over our Constitution. It's sad because when they most need some balls is when those balls are most lacking.
You folks are nuckin' futs!
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