More Newspapers Across The Country Call For End To Occupation Of Iraq
Via The Huffington Post:
A growing number of newspapers across the country are calling for the Bush Administration to begin withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq.
Among them are newspapers from red states, including several (such as the Roanoke Times in Virginia and The Olympian in Washington state) that circulate in areas with large concentrations of military families.
Seattle Times (Wash.), July 17, 2007
Philadelphia Inquirer (Penn.), July 15, 2007
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review (Penn.), July 15, 2007
Detroit Free-Press (Mich.), July 13, 2007
Wichita Eagle (Kan.), July 12, 2007
Boston Globe (Mass.), July 10, 2007
Tuscaloosa News (Ala.), July 8, 2007
New York Times (N.Y.), July 8, 2007
The Olympian (Wash.), July 4, 2007
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (Penn.), June 26, 2007
Los Angeles Times (Calif.), May 6, 2007
Roanoke Times (Va.), May 6, 2007
Fort Worth Star-Telegram (Texas), May 1, 2007
Portland Press-Herald (Maine), April 29, 2007
San Jose Mercury News (Calif.), April 12, 2007
Cleveland Plain Dealer (Ohio), March 16, 2007
Baltimore Sun (Md.)
I wonder how many are owned by Rupert Murdoch. Any guesses?
good question I am sure the answer would scare you and I
I wonder how many city actually own their own newspaper?
Portland, Oregon is mostly a liberal state, and yet the Oregonian press is very conservative basis. Rarely report the truth when it comes to politics, or protest thereof.
Perhaps the press is finally reading THE REAL IRAQI REPORT CARD
The shocker is the Pittsburgh Tribune Review. It's owned by Scaife.
"...I am waiting for the American Eagle to straighten up and fly right"
-- Lawrence Ferlinghetti
The Little Emperor ain't pulling the troops out even if Laura and Barney turn on him too.
You can add The Monterey Peninsula Hearld to that list.......I could of sworn there was a Barry Bonds thread here a minute ago......did it get to hot or what?
I wonder how many of them were against the war four and a half years ago? According to Michael Ignatieff in today's article, not too many. And here's my rebuttal toMichael Ignatieff. If you haven't read his mind-blowing article in the NY Times Magazine that rationalizes being a war drum beater four and a half years ago and how he still denigrates those who were right about opposing the war but for the wrong reasons, follow the link at my place.
And if you haven't done your part to take this idiotic Canuck down then you're wasting the opportunity of a lifetime.
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Blah, blah, blah.
These bastards will reach their goals, no matter how many
news outlets pretend to disagree. The fix is in. The shadow
gov't that was started in the 80s is now a permanent fixture nationally and geopolitically. They effectively counteract any movement toward dissent with a massive barrage of disinfo. You know it's true.
But if history is any indicator of the traction of this tyrannical
philosophy, we can be sure that THEY ALWAYS LOSE.
Always.
They think they are very smart. But they are not.
They are just NOT THAT SMART. They are willing to be
murderous, that is for sure.
But SMART wins.
Always.
paranoia @ 4:
You got that right! I don't even bother with The Oregonian anymore. Who owns it?
The Pittsburgh Tribune calling for our troops to return home, what is this world coming to? The Trib is a Scaife paper, Republican mouthpiece and smear merchant against all things Clinton being a major voice in driving impeachment proceeding against Bubba.
Now the Trib holds Murtha as it's shield. How upside down, inside out have the Bush's turned this country when a major Republican rag says, "FUCK YOU DELUSIONAL BUSH. STAY THE COURSE IS NOT A STRATEGY"???
Bush is not going to withdraw, if he did it will signal his Admi. as huge failure.....
He prefers to kill more Americans than admitte defeat
So what?
The only reason they are printing stories is because its safe.
The congress has shown where it stands in regard to the people.
They side with the King
We are fucked- royally.
Stay the course don't flip flop, flip flop, the Rep. party flip flops....
So what?
Bush is going to leave this debacle for the next president.
Well, if Bush listened to anyone outside of his . . . head, this would mean something.
Washington is not a Red State and the city of Olympia is quite liberal
"Among them are newspapers from red states, including several (such as the Roanoke Times in Virginia and The Olympian in Washington state)"
I live just outside Olympia and Washington is NOT a red state. Geesus kryst.
Yakima @ 19:
Thanks Yakima. Pissed me off too, lol.
17 arroyo Says:
"So what?
Bush is going to leave this debacle for the next president."
and why are you so sure that bush/cheney will leave office in 2009? or ever?
im quite sure bush would say to you , tell it to somebody who gives a shit!
There are 6 big wig that own most of the media, and all of them are right wingers and suppress the truth.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/12_11_02/Media_Giants_Crave/media_giant...
The Oregonian is owned by the Newhouse's family.
2 Saturday ago, there was a headline story of Peter Defazio denied to see the new patriot act revision. The story was written that for national security Leaving out Defazio was in the best interest to keep the terrorist from knowing what the president plan was for martial law if it were to take place under economic collapse or civil unrest. If we were to incite a violent protest, then Bush would be able to declare ruler for indefinite time. Of course there would probably no time table for Bush to restore power to Democracy.
Its a sad story, because it tells me the power of misdirection is strong and that many of them don't know what civil liberties is, or what is in the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. I am afraid that many slept thru govt class in high school. In my school back in the 80's I was the only one that protest against being force to listen to the preacher coming in to the school preaching morality. I walk up to the microphone and told the preacher that he was in violation of the constitution, that church and state shall be separate. I got reprimanded by the principle and A+ in my history class, and competed in the academic competition in the history category. There were only a handful that had the zest and earnest interest in how our govt work. I skip the school book textbook and was given as a gift 2 books, one was a really in-depth United States of America history, and the other was a book on Thomas Jefferson. Whatever we were studying with the school books, I look it up in the new book. I used to think History was boring, but the new book and the Thomas Jefferson autobiography were alive and very interesting. It became entertainment like watching a heated battle of emotion flying and people making demands.
If we are to reverse this trend of being ill prepare for civilian duty, it would be to give a young student a comprehensible history book on the USA govt.
They'd better be quiet or we're going to be "distracted" again!
Hey. Huff Po is wrong. States don't come much Bluer than Washington...
That used to mean something in this country... when big city papers declared FOR or AGAINST a candidate or an issue.
It doesn't mean SQUAT any more. News newspapers inform consumers about weekend and holiday SALES... and they bolster good samaritans once in a while... and they provide box scores in the sports pages... and they keep me informed about the real estate prices and trends.
Besides... Bush doesn't READ newspapers so they are not going to change HIS mind... and Cheney... well, who knows what Cheney reads. Probably just the RNC-system e-mails that come out of KKKarl Rove's office... OH, yea... and the National Security Reports that he dictates to the CIA.
30% OF ALL WEAPONS GIVEN TO THE IRAQIS since 2004 are now unaccountable (not to mentions even before that) and we can thank the monumentally incompetent General Petraeus for that since this was all under his watch. Thanks to him these weapons are now in the hands of the insurgents. And he claims that the surge is working?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/05/AR200708...
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Kudos to the papers taking a stand. They need to be strong and not worry about backlash from the local Clear Channel and Salem radio station mouth-breather hosts
IN The Cold @ 14:
Dumbya's administration is a huge failure anyhow.
And you're right. He will just leave it to his successor saying: "Ah did not lose this war fer Amurca. Mah successor did."
A day late and a dollar short. Operation Run Out the Clock is in full swing, and yet not a single one of these rags is gonna call Bush on that - thats the real evidence of the general swing of the MSM to the right. "We, the smart and informed local paper of anytown usa, are reporting that its time to get out" --- well no shit, I've NEVER heard that before, that theres some real sharp editorializing by the boondocks times, what an original fucking thought, there's been like no evidence that this may be the correct course of action but I bet these same papers will once again surprise us all with their wisdom sometime in late 2009!
70% of America calls for withdrawl....who is the minority. I saw that idiot Joe Klein recently has stated the American's have lost their minds and that opinion polls for the war stated that they were behind 'w''s war. Of course we were JOE...You and the Idiots sold US this war...we bought it and now we got a sour taste in our mouths and have decided to search for the Truth...as my mom always told me..."news Soph....the truth hurts...prepare yourself...they all lie...choose the one that lies to you the best.
Saturday Afternoon Cinema: U.S. soldiers ask "Should We Stay or Should we Go.
or
Discover why YALE is BAD for AMERICA
http://newssophisticate.blogspot.com/2007/07/4th-branch-membership-requi...
"Dumbya's administration is a huge failure anyhow.
And you're right. He will just leave it to his successor saying: "Ah did not lose this war fer Amurca. Mah successor did."
I have been inclined to agree with you up to now, but I see now that the entire effort to gain control of Iraq and its oil will never be handed over to anyone who would end that accomplishment. Once the taste of blood and power is there, it will be held onto viciously, making sure that any "successor" will continue the stranglehold. Even if it takes martial law. And it will.
And to Bush, it's not defeat. Destroying Iraq with civil war enables him to hold onto it, so to him that is victory not defeat. And it won't end with Iraq either.
#21-While Wa. state may not be a red state, I, like yourself, also live near Olympia, but in a rural area, which is very conservative, where I have been told, because of my anti-Bush and anti-military bumper stickers, that I do not belong here and that I should go back to Russia. I have sometimes wondered if I have stepped in a time warp, where it is not 2007 but rather 1957.
Ryoko @ 1:
That was my first thought! I heard on Democracy Now that all 175 Mudrock newspapers were for the war. I wonder if any of them have changed.
i must add the St. Louis Post-Dispatch to this list. I can't point to one specific editorial off the top of my head, but the Post definitely believes the war should be ended.
paranoia @ 25:
I cannot believethat The Oregonian covered the DeFazio story in that light. That is truly disgusting.
Kudos to you for stepping up and saying what needed to be said at your school!
Erroll @ 36:
And Snohomish Co and the entire eastside is filled with red cretins. But it's still a blue state.
It's GOOD to learn that SAN JOSE MERCURY NEWS is among this list. HOPEFULLY the SAN JOSE MAYOR AND COUNCIL will do the SAME and Vote for a resolution to press our Congressman for IMPEACHMENT and particularly press Congressman Mike HONDA to support HR 333 to Impeach VP CHENEY.
City of San Jose need to define itself politically. DO they want to be progressives and be among the leading cities that can stand up for what is right for our NATION. Or are they simply going to stay silent and stay in the background in a NATIONAL ISSUES?
Or ARE WE GOING TO BE AMONG OUR SMALLER BUT COURAGEOUS NEIGHBORING CITIES (San Francisco, Santa Cruz, Berkeley) Even West Hollywood has taken a STAND. Our Constitution and our Democracy is in crisis. It's time to for SAN JOSE to claim it's stake in our DEMOCRACY........
#40-Miss Kitty
"But it's still a blue state." But that fact provides little solace for those of us who reside in those parts of Washington where the words liberal and progressive are looked upon with scorn and derision. I am sure that those people who live in other blue states in the country and who live in rural areas where conservative views rule can attest to the validity of what I have said.
Erroll, it's still not correct to label WA state red, no matter how shitty the slack-jawed yokels of Backwoodsistan treat you.
Erroll @ 36:
I know. I also live out in the woods (mason county=logging country big time) and I agree its pretty conservative out here. Doesn't even slow me down though, I speak my mind everywhere I go. But the language in the article was that our state....which is about as blue as you get...is a solid red. Really chaffed my hide. Upside is I get out into the city daily where common sense and reality have a bit more of a foothold, otherwise I would be completely mad by now (assuming I'm not) between this and the confounded rain! (I lived in SanDiego all my life till 5 yrs ago and I may never get used to this weather lol) I don't understand why the Huffpost author of this piece couldn't even glance at a electoral map from, oh say the last few election cycles. Frankly, I wasn't gona let that go. A little fact checking, is all I ask.
Erroll @ 42:
And ya know miss kitty, when I find myself drawing the scorn of said slack-jawed yokels of Backwoodsistan, it just enforces my position in my own mind. There is a scary lack of good judgment in these rural areas and its not like you're going to change many (any) minds. Well, I suppose you can't change what you don't have!
So much for dissing the reality based community. Republicans think they are going to outrun the truth, but their LIES are losing traction.
mishkasattic @ 22:
Being a native Spokanite, I can safely agree that if it wasn't for Western Washington, including Olympia, the state would be a Red State. Fortunately, the majority of the voting population in Western Washington cancels out all of Eastern Washington in Presidential elections. Anybody remember way back when there was discussion about Eastern Washington, the panhandle of Idaho and Western Montana becoming their own state? There's a wiki link mentioning it... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Washington.
Add the Milwaukee Journal -Sentinel (Wisconsin) to the list---had a blistering editorial yesterday.
BFD
You think anyone in DC gives a sheeit what anyone in America thinks?
Why all this babbling about withdrawing? We have a bases and a mega embassy there. Will you kids wake up already. You made the choice to allow this moron administration to take us to war. Either take to the streets or shut the hell up! Enough whining already. The newspapers are complicit in keeping you sheeple's fantasies alive. You'll still be crying "Bring them home..." 5 years from now.
You would think that Calif would be every shade of blue,thru and thru,but no....there are very large part of red all over Calif....which gives me reason for concern in the next election....not winning but by stealing.
Miss Kitty
You seem to have somehow misread and/or misunderstood what I wrote. While lamenting the lack of liberal voices in the area of where I live, nowhere in my comments did I state that Washington, taken as a whole, can be considered to be a red state. I was simply attempting to point out that Washington state, like probably all other states in the country, has enclaves which are more red than the other more populated urban areas of the state. The more rural the area, the less educated and well informed the populace tends to be, along with hordes of super patriots, while in the cities and larger towns there are more people willing to engage in critical thinking and not so willing to accept the party line that is handed down by the establishment.
Western Washington is a very Blue State, eastern Washington is another matter.
#53-Arroyo
"Western Washington is a very Blue State..." That statement is very misleading if not outright false. Seattle and Olympia are, for the most part, very liberal. But south of Olympia and for the next 100 or so miles to Portland, that stretch is as conservative as the reddest states that comprise those of the Deep South.
"You’ll still be crying “Bring them home…” 5 years from now."
Correct, but they need something to cry about when their American Idol favorite wins. Five years? Try 50. The defense contracting companies know a cash cow when they see one.
If Iraqi's get tired of their occupation, doesn't that just mean they'll be leaching off of welfare?
Erroll @ 54:
Excuse me but .... Most of the population of Western Washington is in the corridor from Seattle to Olympia, hence the statement "Western Washington is a very Blue State...". Obviously, NOT ALL OF Western Washington is Liberal, but ..... how else do you end up with 2 Democratic women as Senators? Certainly not from the Longview/Kelso vote.
Arroyo
Nor, I might add, would Murray and Caldwell garner too much support from people living in towns such as Centralia and Chehalis in superpatriotic Lewis County.
I just read Sen. Feingold's column on HuffPost, explaining the recent activities and calling for censure.
In my view, perhaps the journalists have called in to report the news that Bush didn't Perhaps the journalists have called in to report the news that Bush didn't want the public to know were victim's of Bush's newfound surveillance program; only to be killed in iraq mysteriously or friendly bombings.
How many journalists have been killed so far? Can you count them?
Bush is very afraid of getting caught by those journalists and therefore, undermining the natural righrs of the citizens.
Mob rule only get worse!
If I were you, I would be very skeptical about Lieberman running the show from the Independent quarters. His loyal senators have participated in granting the president untold powers. Mr. Feingold will be defeated once again by these loyalists.
I just read Sen. Feingold’s column on HuffPost, explaining the recent activities and calling for censure.
In my view, perhaps the journalists have called in to report the news that Bush didn’t want the public to know were victim’s of Bush’s newfound surveillance program; only to be killed in iraq mysteriously or friendly bombings.
How many journalists have been killed so far? Can you count them?
Bush is very afraid of getting caught by those journalists and therefore, undermining the natural righrs of the citizens.
Mob rule only get worse!
If I were you, I would be very skeptical about Lieberman running the show from the Independent quarters. His loyal senators have participated in granting the president untold powers. Mr. Feingold will be defeated once again by these loyalists.
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This is not suprising to me. Most of the newspapers in America are very liberal. I would guess that when our President Bush decides to start pulling troops out, they will call that a huge mistake also. Isn't it too bad when people with as much influence as the printed media, will let their total hate for our President, jeopardize our troops, diminish their morral, and add fire to the enemy. In past days, this would almost be considered treasonist. I wonder how many of these newspaper owners would have the same position, when the terrorist are here, and it's one of their family member who are either help hostage or destroyed by a car bomber. I give much credit to our President Bush for having the courage to stand up for the right thing, even if it effects his own legacy. I think he is very brave and support his efforts. We have the greatest force in the world. We should start showing them the support they deserve and let them know how proud we are of them and what a great job they are doing. If the whole country was behind the movement, like "Americans" were in WW2, it would send a different message to our enemies.
More Newspapers Across The Country Call For End To Occupation Of Iraq
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This is not suprising to me. Most of the newspapers in America are very liberal. I would guess that when our President Bush decides to start pulling troops out, they will call that a huge mistake also. Isn’t it too bad when people with as much influence as the printed media, will let their total hate for our President, jeopardize our troops, diminish their morral, and add fire to the enemy. In past days, this would almost be considered treasonist. I wonder how many of these newspaper owners would have the same position, when the terrorist are here, and it’s one of their family member who are either help hostage or destroyed by a car bomber. I give much credit to our President Bush for having the courage to stand up for the right thing, even if it effects his own legacy. I think he is very brave and support his efforts. We have the greatest force in the world. We should start showing them the support they deserve and let them know how proud we are of them and what a great job they are doing. If the whole country was behind the movement, like “Americans” were in WW2, it would send a different message to our enemies.....
Lol great job they're doing haha....
getting innocent victim kill !
some fucked up soldier raping little girl and killing innocent family !
FRIENDLY FIRE !!!!!
ECOURAGE PETROL WAR !!!!
and they did not even know what they fight for !
incredible job they are doinggg
they shouldprotect their country ??
not invade for oil !
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