Credit Fears Hit Global Markets

Great...just in time for my trip to Europe...

GuardianUK: (h/t Gregory)

Central banks on both sides of the Atlantic pumped billions into the financial system to calm nerves over an impending credit crunch today - but their actions only served to heighten alarm, prompting a fresh plunge in global share prices.

The European Central Bank injected an emergency €95bn (£64.5bn) into the markets in its first intervention since the turmoil triggered by the 9/11 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington DC in 2001.In America, the Federal Reserve added $24bn (£12bn) in temporary reserves to the US banking system to shore up liquidity and bring down short-term interest rates, while the Bank of Canada mounted a similar operation.

The moves, however, seemed to fuel a sense of crisis over defaults in America's mortgage lending industry which are causing a ripple effect through the banking industry as much of the debt is bundled up and sold on.

On Wall Street, blue chip shares suffered their worst day for four months as the Dow Jones Industrial Average plummeted by 387 points to 13,270. Stock prices swung wildly and trading volumes hit an all-time record with 2.8bn shares changing hands. Of the Dow's 30 component stocks, 29 ended the day lower.

Bonddad looks at the problems with hedge funds and recommends this post to wade through the hype of conflicting information on the status of the market.



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Got your passport, Nicole?

I do, Strawberry. And not without daily phone calls to the State Department, Congress critter, and every other bureaucrat I could find. The promised 10-12 week processing time took closer to 20 weeks and probably would not have come through had not I not been a bulldog about getting them.

The Passport Agency is in crisis mode. When I asked one of them if I could blame Bush for it, she said "Yes, you can. We warned the White House that we were not equipped to handle their changes and they completely disregarded our supervisors." Out of the mouths of civil servants...

Passport to where? . . . we are now global persona non gratis. Its time to head to Washington with torches in hand. Dr Frankenstein is really pissing me off.

E Ryno @ 3:

Passport to where? . . . we are now global persona non gratis. Its time to head to Washington with torches in hand. Dr Frankenstein is really pissing me off.

Shit , i need a babysitter, though.

Actually, this is great for you. The current problem is causing the dollar to rise against the Euro. It should make your meals a little cheaper.

Chase the monsters up the mountain and into the windmill!

-GSD

This is really, freakin' scary. It really is. All I can do is to offer a bit of momentary comic relief (in the time that the markets fall another 100 points, Obama will probably have added that many photos to his Flickr site). Should we take up a collection to buy Hillary Clinton her own Flickr pro account? All three of the leading Democratic presidential candidates now have Flickr accounts. Of the three, Hillary is the only one who does not have a pro account as of this writing. In fact, she doesn't seem to have an official campaign Flickr site at all. More at Letter from Here.

What is going on? Is it even possible to stand back far enough to look at the big picture?

I hope I don't hurt myself patting myself on the back, but my friends will tell you I predicted this mess over two years ago. I'm sure as hell I'm not the only one, but you could see it coming with so many people buying so much home for so much money using loans they could not afford and really shouldn't have been able to get. It was just a matter of time until these god awful overpriced homes were going to hit a brick wall. I feel sorry for some of the people who got caught in this mortgage trap. I have no sympathy for the mortgage companies who, knowing the borrowers couldn't afford the loans, gave them to them anyway. There was greed running wild all over the place. Now it's time to pay the piper and it's ugly.

On CNBC they kept saying the housing bubble popping was not going to have a major effect on the market. Finally now they are admitting that it sure will and has.

During the time these crazy mortgages were being approved, bush was crowing about the number of people who owned their own homes. Didn't anyone in DC notice the imbalance in income and the cost of those homes? If they didn't, they should have.

When are people going to realize that, when everyone is seeing the same great investing opportunity, be it stocks, real estate, a bond market, beanie babies -- whatever -- the time is coming soon when the smart investor is already looking ahead to bail out of that market? If everyone is making really good money at an investment, it's about time for that investment to peak and the window is already narrowing. Don't put your family jewels lemming-like into whatever seems to be making the entire herd rich.

And when are we going to require more than a basic half - year course in economics be taught in high school?

I can say without hesitation that y'all should listen closely to bonddad when making financial decisions... he knows his economics shit very well.

Noodles @ 10:

And when are we going to require more than a basic half - year course in economics be taught in high school?

Is that even done? The most I've ever heard of -- as far as high school requirements go -- is stuff on how to balance a checkbook and the like... life skills type of stuff, not anything remotely related to basic economics (i.e. economic definitions, simple cost-benefit analysis, etc)...

Econatheist, who is "bondad"?

I was never taught economics of any sort in school. I took a class in coll.

Site Monitor: He's the blogger that Nicole linked in the post.

Where's your NAFTA now Moses...yea....see???

(Think E.G. Robinson in Moses but acting like public enemy no 1...)

I know, probably too obscure or old for anyone to make the connection... OK, try this.... I ain't no wall streeter but this is beginning to smell like the tip of a worldwide depression, not recession... depression... Juuusstt like the 29 crash, only writ worldwide... And that's where the NAFTA connection comes in...
It was the advent and acceptance of the NAFTA protocols that set up the so-called world wide free market commerce village we all inhabit...

Funny thing is, seems like all the proponents of NAFTA and GATT and all the rest of it inferred if not claimed that this new world would make commerce and business so much easier and therefore life for the masses in general all betta.... Didn't really happen... However the ability of one nations economy to tank in a NAFTA world allows that nation to pull everyone into the abyss along with them....

Yea, where's your NAFTA now Moses...yea see.....Anyway, I don't really know nothing about this shit.. Yet... I jussst suspect it will somehow bit me in the ass anyway... along with the rest of us... at some point... Oh joy and rapture..... Oh wait.. That parts only for the fundies to take advantage of...my bad sorry... I'll just be over here prepping my cardboard box for living accomodations.. Probably be able to rent it at condo prices in six months or so........ To paraphrase the wicked witch of the east...
My portfolio is melting....Oh what a world... what a world....JD

Thanks again, Mr. CEO President!

I sure hope the rich don't suffer.

I wanted to buy some gold. Not to make money but to protect my savings. I figure if the dollar is going down in value, gold will keep its value. But, geeze, who do you trust in this day and age to buy from? They could sell me slugs painted gold and I wouldn't know the difference. Anybody out there know anything about gold?

Nicole Belle @ 2:

I do, Strawberry. And not without daily phone calls to the State Department, Congress critter, and every other bureaucrat I could find. The promised 10-12 week processing time took closer to 20 weeks and probably would not have come through had not I not been a bulldog about getting them.

The Passport Agency is in crisis mode. When I asked one of them if I could blame Bush for it, she said "Yes, you can. We warned the White House that we were not equipped to handle their changes and they completely disregarded our supervisors." Out of the mouths of civil servants...

I don't know why, but the passport situation really solidifies all the fear I have regarding Bushco. It sounds so stupid, but my argument is, if something as simple as PASSPORTS! becomes so effed up...oh God, and we should trust these boneheads with say social security, infrastructure, health care, attacking other countries...IT'S A FRIGGIN' PASSPORT! How hard can it be? Wait don't answer that. I'm watched the stock market tank again today and all Bushco could do was stand back and throw money at it. Ya know, I'm really trying hard to cut back on the Bombay and tonics...

I have never seen so much BS (and billions) thrown about in order to buy some time as I have in the last couple days. What we just witnessed was a plume of smoke on Mt. Saint Helens.

Strawberry, you're a Bombay drinker? Sapphire? High five, so am I. I do martinis but gin and tonic is also delicious.

Nothing that an upper class tax cut won't fix.

pissed off patricia @ 20:

Strawberry, you're a Bombay drinker? Sapphire? High five, so am I. I do martinis but gin and tonic is also delicious.

I knew I liked you.

I'm sure tax cuts for big corps will fix everything.

Noodles @ 10:

When are people going to realize that, when everyone is seeing the same great investing opportunity, be it stocks, real estate, a bond market, beanie babies -- whatever -- the time is coming soon when the smart investor is already looking ahead to bail out of that market? If everyone is making really good money at an investment, it's about time for that investment to peak and the window is already narrowing. Don't put your family jewels lemming-like into whatever seems to be making the entire herd rich.

And when are we going to require more than a basic half - year course in economics be taught in high school?

So if everyone had an MBA and knew how to invest their money, this wouldn't happen? Most people get a few hundred bucks sucked out of their paycheck that goes into pools of stocks. Its all just paper. Nothing was lost in the stock market this week except maybe the illusion that it ever existed at all.

Play with your kids . . . have relationships . . . play some Frisbee with friends. Then you'll have something . . . cause non of us are going to get out of this life thing alive.

:) and it's almost happy hour. Usually the happiest hour of the day

Jo @ 17:

I wanted to buy some gold. Not to make money but to protect my savings. I figure if the dollar is going down in value, gold will keep its value. But, geeze, who do you trust in this day and age to buy from? They could sell me slugs painted gold and I wouldn't know the difference. Anybody out there know anything about gold?

The problem with actually possessing the gold is that if you need gold to buy things, you're also going to need an AK47 to keep your gold. It would be better if we all went to Washington and put things in order. Camping in your SUV with 6 cases of bottled water and a dead cell-phone is no way to live.

Steps to fix the mortgage industry shit before it takes us all down.

1. Identify those who are having trouble paying their mortgages and find a way to get money into their hands. I'm not talking about a handout. If they have lost their jobs, find work for them. If they need more work, help make it happen. Find a way to keep their family together, especially if they might wind up on the streets while their house sitting empty on the market.

2. Get some of these banks to rewrite their crappy mortgages to make them more reasonable. Having people who can barely afford a mortgage paying the highest rates is bizarro world financing. Okay, okay. They made the deal....but we have a vested interest in keeping them off the street and in that home. Otherwise your house value plummets and you might be in the same boat.

So whether your a 'compassionate conservative' like GW or a 'extreme liberal' like Hilary Clinton, you better pitch in to solve this. The greedy people are about to take us all down.

pissed off patricia @ 13:

Econatheist, who is "bondad"?

I was never taught economics of any sort in school. I took a class in coll.

patricia -

He's a former bond trader, now an attorney... I know him (*ahem* perrrrrrrsonally ;) ) from DailyKos and the YK conventions. Very intelligent, thoughtful and - oddly enough - funny guy, although you'd never know it from his writing... since economics is generally a painfully droll subject. I don't think he was even formally trained in economics (as far as undergrad major goes) but he's extremely well-versed in large scale economic issues due to his time in the bond trading industry and can communicate that kind of stuff much better than I ever could... he has a way of making it more accessible to the non-economics type.

Exclusive footage of George W. Bush calming the stock markets and dealing with the real estate bubble.

-GSD

Donald Trump was on tv this morning and he said the banks do not want these homes and will most likely work with the home owners to get a better mortgage rate and setup. Makes sense to me. The last thing a bank wants is to own a bunch of empty houses at a time when houses aren't selling.

To put it in perspective, the $95 bn of liquidity injected by the European Central Bank this week was the largest operation in its nine-year history, exceeding by nearly 40% the amount it injected on September 12, 2001 following the tragic events of 9/11.

Comically, Bush attempted to reassure investors on Wednesday, August 7 that the markets -- and overall economy -- were fine, urging them (with inadvertent chutzpah) to conduct a "rational analysis" of the situation. The following day, the Dow fell another 387 points.

Thanks for the info, I'll check him out.

Capt. Bat Guano @ 16:

I sure hope the rich don't suffer.

Of course not! The Fed dumped billions (our billions) into the money supply so that the market actually pulled a gain out of its ass for the week. Some crisis huh? This buys some time for the million-dollar-bonus crowd to gather in the Hamptons this weekend and figure out a way to unload their now-rotten investments on the unsuspecting.

Strawberry, those passports have access to far more information than you might realize. There was an article in the SF Chronicle a few months ago about a man who was refused admittance to Canada for his Whistler ski vacation because when they scanned his passport, they found a conviction for a DUI. From 20 years ago.

By the way, pour me one of those gin and tonics...it's been a LONG summer. ;)

But how does all that stuff affect Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan, or American Idol?

pissed off patricia @ 30:

Donald Trump was on tv this morning and he said the banks do not want these homes and will most likely work with the home owners to get a better mortgage rate and setup. Makes sense to me. The last thing a bank wants is to own a bunch of empty houses at a time when houses aren't selling.

That's right. Banks are in the lending business not the real estate business. The will work with the homeowner insofar as not to own a house, then kill their credit rating. A win/win for them.

And thus we see the result of "Reaganomics". As George Herbert Walker Bush said so many years ago, it is voodoo economics and now it has come in to crash on us all.

Banks in trouble, print more money, which is then worth even less than it was to begin with.

Well, at least all these folks will have lots of wood for the winter when they start chopping up their 10,000 square foot homes for heat.

Look on the bright side.

-GSD

Is there any news out there about what kind of exposure 401k's have to this meltdown? Are our investments there at risk because of the various dealings of the fund corps?

OMG, Nicole!!! It's going to take my SICK DAUGHTER TWENTY WEEKS to RENEW her USA passport?? She urgently needs to come to france for health care....and she thought it would take about a month to renew her expired passport. Please, tell me that renewals are faster than NEW PASSPORTS!!??? please...

Inca Garcilaso de la Vega @ 31:

To put it in perspective, the $95 bn of liquidity injected by the European Central Bank this week was the largest operation in its nine-year history, exceeding by nearly 40% the amount it injected on September 12, 2001 following the tragic events of 9/11.

Comically, Bush attempted to reassure investors on Wednesday, August 7 that the markets -- and overall economy -- were fine, urging them (with inadvertent chutzpah) to conduct a "rational analysis" of the situation. The following day, the Dow fell another 387 points.

"Comically, Bush attempted to reassure investors on Wednesday, August 7 that the markets — and overall economy — were fine, urging them (with inadvertent chutzpah) to conduct a “rational analysis” of the situation. The following day, the Dow fell another 387 points."

Bush also insured Americans their were WMDs in Iraq along with a long list of other lies that are near impossible to remember. Nobody outside of the Kool Aid drinking 25 percenters that still support him believe anything he says.

Ruthless People @ 41:

Inca Garcilaso de la Vega @ 31:

To put it in perspective, the $95 bn of liquidity injected by the European Central Bank this week was the largest operation in its nine-year history, exceeding by nearly 40% the amount it injected on September 12, 2001 following the tragic events of 9/11.

Comically, Bush attempted to reassure investors on Wednesday, August 7 that the markets -- and overall economy -- were fine, urging them (with inadvertent chutzpah) to conduct a "rational analysis" of the situation. The following day, the Dow fell another 387 points.

"Comically, Bush attempted to reassure investors on Wednesday, August 7 that the markets — and overall economy — were fine, urging them (with inadvertent chutzpah) to conduct a “rational analysis” of the situation. The following day, the Dow fell another 387 points."

Bush also insured Americans their were WMDs in Iraq along with a long list of other lies that are near impossible to remember. Nobody outside of the Kool Aid drinking 25 percenters that still support him believe anything he says.

W= Wrong about everything

canardtahiti @ 40:

OMG, Nicole!!! It's going to take my SICK DAUGHTER TWENTY WEEKS to RENEW her USA passport?? She urgently needs to come to france for health care....and she thought it would take about a month to renew her expired passport. Please, tell me that renewals are faster than NEW PASSPORTS!!??? please...

She can pay for expediting...but there's no guarantee. The Passport Agency appears to operate on an emergency basis only. My recommendation is that your daughter speak to the Constituent Services administrator for her congressperson. That's what we did and the only reason we did get our passports after 20 weeks.

Seems that requiring these passports is a good excuse for them to do a heavy background study on each of us at "our request". That would explain why it's taking so long. Last I heard you could expect to wait a couple of months or more for one.

Bit NOLA @ 39:

Is there any news out there about what kind of exposure 401k's have to this meltdown? Are our investments there at risk because of the various dealings of the fund corps?

It’s going to take some time to weed through this mess, thanks to the lax rules of some ‘derivatives’. But some AAA-securities-only funds are sure to be downgraded because fund management didn’t do their due diligence and weed out the bad apples from the good. Look for a boatload of class action lawsuits over this. Of course, a lot of good that does the average investor; the lawyers make off with most of the pie in those situations.

Ruthless People @ 41: "Bush also insured Americans their were WMDs in Iraq along with a long list of other lies that are near impossible to remember. Nobody outside of the Kool Aid drinking 25 percenters that still support him believe anything he says."

Mmmm, you're onto something here: the 25 percenters must've been on the buy-side of the market while 75% of the market were frantically getting out of their positions...

Ruthless People @ 36:

That's right. Banks are in the lending business not the real estate business. The will work with the homeowner insofar as not to own a house, then kill their credit rating. A win/win for them.

I doubt that the banks can give the potential foreclosures a sweetheart deal. If they do, then they'll have to give that same rate to everyone or get sued. Even if the banks could, people will then divest from those lending institutions because they'll not be offering competitive interest on savings accounts.

There will be plenty of people with enough money to come in and pick up the foreclosures. Get ready to be a renter from now on.

So what happens to the people who get foreclosed and end up owing large sums of money? There's no more bankruptcy to wipe the slate clean.

GSD @ 29:

Exclusive footage of George W. Bush calming the stock markets and dealing with the real estate bubble.

-GSD

That's pretty funny, GSD. Bush didn't do much to calm the markets. When a guy struggles with pronouncing the word 'liquidity', it usually means he hasn't used the word much in a sentence lately, much less would he know what to do about it.

Not to scare anybody, it's scary enough out there, but here's a decent article about how deep this could be and how it will affect everything in the economy, not just housing and the financial markets, and how Bernanke and Paulson may not be telling us all the whole story.

Bernanke Was Wrong: Subprime Contagion Is Spreading

There are all sorts of crazy financial matters going on right now. Check out this one in the New York Times about banks selling their debt to other companies but providing the loans to pay for the debt buyers purchase.

http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/10/the-buyout-loan-merry-go-ro...

There are tons of brand new homes here sitting empty and they have been for about a year or more. Nothing is moving. Realtors are dropping out of the business because they are making no money.

Thanks Gort.

Bound to be a scam on the 401k one day. How could they just ignore all that cash, ready for the taking? They own the board and every piece on it.

Smack_dab @ 47:

Ruthless People @ 36:

That's right. Banks are in the lending business not the real estate business. The will work with the homeowner insofar as not to own a house, then kill their credit rating. A win/win for them.

I doubt that the banks can give the potential foreclosures a sweetheart deal. If they do, then they'll have to give that same rate to everyone or get sued. Even if the banks could, people will then divest from those lending institutions because they'll not be offering competitive interest on savings accounts.

There will be plenty of people with enough money to come in and pick up the foreclosures. Get ready to be a renter from now on.

So what happens to the people who get foreclosed and end up owing large sums of money? There's no more bankruptcy to wipe the slate clean.

Can't get blood from a stone? And the bankruptcy bill can be over-turned with the new congress.

Second City CEO @ 49:

There are all sorts of crazy financial matters going on right now. Check out this one in the New York Times about banks selling their debt to other companies but providing the loans to pay for the debt buyers purchase.

http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/10/the-buyout-loan-merry-go-round/

I saw that earlier, and it is crazy. Talk about the "company store'. Makes Pullman look like a saint.

Is Bernanke a financial Brownie?

I like the economyincrisis.org site that Thom Hatrmann mentions. We're in deep s---

dennis @ 48: "Not to scare anybody, it’s scary enough out there, but here’s a decent article about how deep this could be and how it will affect everything in the economy, not just housing and the financial markets, and how Bernanke and Paulson may not be telling us all the whole story."

Thanks for the link. Also, Paul Krugman of The Times has been consistently warning readers about the strong likelihood of a real estate meltdown.

I'm off to dinner. Good evening everyone and have a good weekend.

pissed off patricia @ 57:

I'm off to dinner. Good evening everyone and have a good weekend.

Ciao Bella!

dennis @ 48: thanks for the link. Also, Paul Krugman of The Times has been consistently warning readers of the strong likelihood of a meltdown in the real estate market.

Big inflation is coming as the Fed and central banks flood the world financial markets with liquidity (i.e., print dollars) to protect the imploding sub-prime credit markets.

Nicole Belle @ 2:

The Passport Agency is in crisis mode. When I asked one of them if I could blame Bush for it, she said "Yes, you can. We warned the White House that we were not equipped to handle their changes and they completely disregarded our supervisors." Out of the mouths of civil servants...

i'm sure lots of the passport people on the ground take a lot of flack for delays but i'm willing to bet that they didn't get extra money to fund the 'new and improved passport program'.

kind of like no child left behind.

Sorry about re-posting

Bush meltdown, the Iraqi meltdown, the housing/global stock market meltdown and the Cub’s meltdown… we have front-row seats to a train wreck.

E Ryno @ 26:

Jo @ 17:

I wanted to buy some gold. Not to make money but to protect my savings. I figure if the dollar is going down in value, gold will keep its value. But, geeze, who do you trust in this day and age to buy from? They could sell me slugs painted gold and I wouldn't know the difference. Anybody out there know anything about gold?

The problem with actually possessing the gold is that if you need gold to buy things, you're also going to need an AK47 to keep your gold. It would be better if we all went to Washington and put things in order. Camping in your SUV with 6 cases of bottled water and a dead cell-phone is no way to live.

I don't own a SUV nor a cell-phone. Nor an AK47 for that matter. I don't want to spend it, just have it for my grandchildren.

Jo @ 17:

I wanted to buy some gold. Not to make money but to protect my savings. I figure if the dollar is going down in value, gold will keep its value. But, geeze, who do you trust in this day and age to buy from? They could sell me slugs painted gold and I wouldn’t know the difference. Anybody out there know anything about gold?
___

Buying gold is a wise idea. In the olden days, during wars people would flee to the neighboring countries and would barter by paying them gold. It helped most of my ancestors. Guess what? Those rascals got rich in the bargain.

Artificially inflating markets as well as people spending borrowed money than investing can hurt the economy.

Well, my meager 401K got hit really hard this week. I tried really hard to save myself by selling out of a couple of funds I knew would get slammed and move my scooties into PG&E, but us little people can't move like the biggies can. (especially inside the boundaries of a 401K) So by the time I got my stuff moved I had lost 15K...When I heard bush mention the market, that was my signal to move.
The Government really doesn't give a shit about us little people though, or Bernacki would have dropped rates a bit to give the market a little CPR, but like I said.

So now I and my wife will probably move back to Thailand, where we lived for the last 5 years (until 8 months ago when i was Bangkok-Bob)
We can get Blue Cross there for $24. a month and a day in the hospital complete with an apendectomy is only $400..
A two bedroom house leases for 425 to 550. I do plan on staying until after the Elections in November though.

Hey, You're all missing the point.

Dick Cheney has been able to "pack enough wealth" in from the run up in his Halliburton stock due to Iraqi-Clusterf*ck-Ola, he's probably immune to a crash in the market?

Dick, Lynn, the daughters, the new "Mutant Grandkid"....

They got enough money to fund the bunker on Martha's vineyard and pay the private Militia from Blackwater to hold off the "Max Max" crowd that is going to be milling around when the financial apocalypse happens?

Laid in a 20 year supply of fresh blood for dick, they're all set!

No worries, mate!

WashStateBlue @ 67:

Hey, You're all missing the point.

Dick Cheney has been able to "pack enough wealth" in from the run up in his Halliburton stock due to Iraqi-Clusterf*ck-Ola, he's probably immune to a crash in the market?

Dick, Lynn, the daughters, the new "Mutant Grandkid"....

They got enough money to fund the bunker on Martha's vineyard and pay the private Militia from Blackwater to hold off the "Max Max" crowd that is going to be milling around when the financial apocalypse happens?

Laid in a 20 year supply of fresh blood for dick, they're all set!

No worries, mate!

yes but will they have enough maggots to feed babs , she loves them on her shit on the shingle for breakfast!

Don't look behind the curtain.

This is called “Trickle Down Sodomy”. Now bend over!

Wakeup @ 69:

Don't look behind the curtain.

is that where the maggot supply for old lady bush is located?

Oh geez. How can the finance industry play dumb on this one? This is cyclical stupidity (or planning, I don't know which).

Got my passport. Both of them. Dual citizenship, priceless!!!

And the Chinese are threatening to dump/call in their 1.3 trillion of US government debt. The house of cards is getting kind of shaky.

Hiya, tyree
"is that where the maggot supply for old lady bush is located?

Baba Yaga Bush: "Let them eat "rice"!"

All of the blather on bubblevision is exactly that with regard to international finance. The Federal Reserve acted as nothing more than a cheap shill in trying to pump up the credit markets by offering loans in the form of mortgages to those who they knew couldn't afford them. We are now confronted with the higest number of bankruptcies and forclosures in American history.
The key element that has not been discussed is why there is no longer any liquidity and the answer is really very simple. The rest of the world and most importantly the Chines said, enough is enough. As a part of various trade agreements over the years, the Chinese agreed to by the majority of our Treasury paper in the form of bundled mortgages and other debt obligations if the US would internally destroy its industrial base by sending our jobs overseas to them. The deal worked out pretty well for both sides, but the Chinese knew that sooner or later this game would have to end because the money being printed by the fed wasn't worth the paper it was printed on. This has been the story that Americans just seem to not understand.
Inflation plain and simple is caused when any soverign country debases its currency by printing more of it with nothing to back it. Look it up for yourselves and educate yourself to what is coming because it won't be pretty.
Now ask yourselves why would the Chinese do something that would hurt themselves in the process? The answer as I have stated here several times in the past can be found at www.worldreports.org.
There was a plan called the Reagan/Mitterand Protocol that should have gone into effect years ago, but the greedy won out and have now brought us to the precipice of insolvency. Again, you can check the figures yourself. The United States has gone from the worlds largest creditor nation to the worlds largest debtor nation in the span of the 6 1/2 years that the Bush administration has been in office. No longer do the Chinese buy our debt, because they were screwed by Bush and Paulson regarding the Wanta matter.
It was the Chinese that put up the 4.5 trillion to be paid Wanta to settle a long standing disagreement over the protocol. In fact that money was paid by them over a year ago. After renegging on the agreement, the Chinese said enough and shut off the money tap.
So do a little math. If the Chinese aren't spending and recycling those dollars they get paid for goods and are not buying our Treasury debt, where are all of these dollars required to keep the system afloat going to come from?
Why do you think they call Ben Bernanke " Helicopter Ben"? It's because he has the power of the printing press. In just the last two days, the Federal reserve just created 35 billion dollars out of thin air. This may offer the impression that they are coming to the worlds rescue, but it is nothing other than window dressing for the financial disaster that is to come.
I can tell you this from several European banking sources. The Federal reserve is on life support and many would be surprised of it lasts through the month of September. If you want to protect yoursleves, get out of anything paper. That means dollars, stocks or anything else that any government can create on a printing press. You should at this time be buying something in the form of an assett that is real, and the only real money that mankind has known for over five thousand years is gold an silver.
When you own these metals they are no one else's liability. You own them outright. Governments can't reproduse it ( at least not yet ). It has to be mined and pulled out of the earth, not created by turning on the power of a printing press. Nixon screwed us back in 1971 when he broke the link between the dollar and gold and its been downhill ever since.
The best thing that could happen to the US is to close down the Federal Reserve, absorbe its debt obligations into the Treasury and go back to a precious metals standard. After all, our Consitution doesn't call for a central bank like the Federal Reserve which is nothing but a cartel of private banks that lends money to our government at interest. The Constitution calls for coin in gold and silver and such was the case up until FDR confiscated all gold held by Americans in 1933.
Go an watch or rewatch From Freedom To Fascism again to learn the finer points, but as things stand now, the Chinese are calling the shots. Everything else is just hype and spin coming out of a bought and paid for manipulated press.

im no financial whiz, but i predicted this 5 years ago

everyone, from the biggest multinational to the lowly wage slave living on credit

really funny looking mortgages keeping the housing market booming

the time to pay the piper had to come

on monday, im moving my retirement into a more stable market fund

the depression is just around the corner

strawberry @ 18:

Nicole Belle @ 2:

I do, Strawberry. And not without daily phone calls to the State Department, Congress critter, and every other bureaucrat I could find. The promised 10-12 week processing time took closer to 20 weeks and probably would not have come through had not I not been a bulldog about getting them.

The Passport Agency is in crisis mode. When I asked one of them if I could blame Bush for it, she said "Yes, you can. We warned the White House that we were not equipped to handle their changes and they completely disregarded our supervisors." Out of the mouths of civil servants...

I don't know why, but the passport situation really solidifies all the fear I have regarding Bushco. It sounds so stupid, but my argument is, if something as simple as PASSPORTS! becomes so effed up...oh God, and we should trust these boneheads with say social security, infrastructure, health care, attacking other countries...IT'S A FRIGGIN' PASSPORT! How hard can it be? Wait don't answer that. I'm watched the stock market tank again today and all Bushco could do was stand back and throw money at it. Ya know, I'm really trying hard to cut back on the Bombay and tonics...

it took me less than 5 weeks to get mine......oh I guess I should mention ...mines a British Passport
....

All the Govt did was print more money...with nothing to back it...Talk about a strawman.

Regarless, the economy is going GREAT!

Hype-Jersey @ 79:

Regarless, the economy is going GREAT!

Tell that to everyone losing their homes and the over 7,000 people who just lost thier jobs in the finacial industry this week alone. This isn't over by a long shot.

listening to the coverage on PBS, you'd think all politicians in this country think all the American people are blithering idiots. First bandks lower the rates, lend money to people who can't afford the loans, raise the rates and then scream that they couldn't foresee they were going to lose money, so the government has to bail them out. Just another Republican Ponzi scheme.

Hype-Jersey @ 79:

Regarless, the economy is going GREAT!

For CEOs and other billionaires.

E Ryno @ 3:

Passport to where? . . . we are now global persona non grata. Its time to head to Washington with torches in hand. Dr Frankenstein is really pissing me off.

Torches hell. A couple of rogue divisions with grenade launchers would do it. Colin Powell, your nation awaits you in its hour of need.

strawberry @ 18:

It sounds so stupid, but my argument is, if something as simple as PASSPORTS! becomes so effed up...oh God, and we should trust these boneheads with say social security, infrastructure, health care, attacking other countries...IT'S A FRIGGIN' PASSPORT! How hard can it be? Wait don't answer that. I'm watched the stock market tank again today and all Bushco could do was stand back and throw money at it. Ya know, I'm really trying hard to cut back on the Bombay and tonics...

The effect is that people will stay home, will disengage further from asserting their rights as citizens, will become less mobile and more easily herded about and sequestered. Kind of like a siege. Haven't you seen already how air travel has become a cavalcade of disruption and dismay? Add to that rising gas prices that will further limit mobility. Hell, some people will even die off as a result (q.v. Katrina), and that works to the benefit of CheneyCo. Fish in a barrel here, folks.

myiq2xu @ 15:

Thanks again, Mr. CEO President!

I remember that. Republicans bragged about how Bush has an MBA and is going to run the government like a well oiled business. I wonder how that turned out? And his previous businesses?

[...] the normally on-the-ball Nicole Belle at CrooksandLiars on the credit crisis. Great…just in time for my trip to [...]

This is why my goal in life is to own my home outright. That way I can tell these politicians who are going to tank this place where they can go.

pissed off patricia @ 30:

Donald Trump was on tv this morning and he said the banks do not want these homes and will most likely work with the home owners to get a better mortgage rate and setup. Makes sense to me. The last thing a bank wants is to own a bunch of empty houses at a time when houses aren't selling.

He is out of the loop - the local media in NYC report that it is IMPOSSIBLE to discuss w/the "banks" for a very simple reason: nobody knows WHO the 'banks' are ! The Donald does not realise most of the mortgages are handled by the brokers, who deal w/ ANY organization that has money, NOT the local bank one could go to/call, and talk to years (eons) ago. The Lender most probably is some behemot without physical address or live pple ever seen by anybody, incorporated on the paper. The mortgage is paid monthly to humanless bank account of the Lender. People who have no money to pay the mortage, have no money to hire an army of lawyers/investigators to track down who/WHAT is the lending wizard - that's the 'deregulation' in our 'business oriented" US. Llike it or not, S&L's and Whitewater were possible due to a lesser level of the same/ similar. The Lender is involved in ALL kinds of schemes, hedging, you name it - why would they care about people they screwed already good ? Taxpayers will give them more. 'They' have us ALL by the balls.

"New Order Ushers in A World of Instability"

The US govt does not GOVERN in this vital area as well, as in many others. The 'little people' have been conned much worse by the US govt (unregulated markets up to the neck in speculation) than any glib brokers. The 'flex rate ' mortgages were created to suck up every single $$$ and fry it in speculative manipulations, to cover up money/stocks 'laundering' sanctioned by the US government. .. Where do you think the $$ came from to provide hundreds of billions of dollars in corporate takeover loans !???
The mortgage problem is a smokescreen.

Most if this 'value' does NOT exist - it ALL is one BIG SCAM, our National Bush-Ponzi Scheme. This is from WaPo today - I hope Sitemonitor will permit this to be available here for all posters.

."".. the new financial order is not all it is cracked up to be.

....it is many of the same firms -- Goldman Sachs, Bear Stearns, Deutsche Bank, Citicorp -- that have also underwritten hundreds of billions of dollars in corporate takeover loans that, suddenly, they cannot sell as they had planned. ..

...has also created opportunities for potentially destabilizing speculation .
.

..often it is the trading on derivatives markets that now drives the trading on "real" markets, rather than the other way around...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/09/AR200708...

New Order Ushers in A World of Instability

By Steven Pearlstein
Friday, August 10, 2007; D01

Hint to White House economic team: You might not want to have had the president repeat that numbskull prediction about a "soft landing" for housing at precisely the moment central banks were pumping $150 billion into the financial system to
prevent a market meltdown over anxieties about mortgage-backed securities. Brings back memories of "Mission Accomplished."

Seriously, folks, we all need to get used to days like yesterday because there are going to be a lot more of them. In a world in which trillions of dollars have been bet on the premise that low interest rates and record-low default rates would continue forever, "repricing of risk," as the administration likes to call it, is not some minor technical event. It's more like a tectonic shift going on beneath the surface of the economy

Think about it. In the space of just several months, we've moved from an environment in which fly-by-night brokers were peddling low-interest mortgages to bad credit risks with no documentation and no money down, to one in which the largest banks are raising rates and tightening terms for their best borrowers.

In the space of several weeks, we've moved from an environment in which 25 percent of corporate takeovers could be financed with the junkiest of C-rate bonds, to a world in which the market for C-bonds has completely evaporated.

In just the past few days, problems in the U.S. housing and mortgage markets have come to pose serious challenges for Australian hedge funds, French insurers and mid-market German banks.

And in the course of several hours, a financial system that was seemingly awash in liquidity suddenly didn't have enough.

As it all unfolds, we are learning several painful truths about the new global financial system, which until recently was widely lauded for its ability to price and spread financial risk to investors willing to accept it.

One lesson is that the sophisticated strategies employed by bank and investment funds to "hedge" risk may not be as reliable as had been thought.

In recent years, for example, banks and hedge funds created elaborate investment strategies built around the presumption that Bond A would always go up when the price of Bond B went down, effectively limiting potential losses. But in recent weeks, many such strategies began to go awry as markets for mortgage securities dried up and fund managers began selling whatever they could to raise cash to pay lenders. As a result, Bond A and Bond B began moving in the same direction, creating losses on both.

Another popular way for sophisticated investors to hedge their bets is to buy insurance against the possibility that a particular company or set of mortgage holders will default on their loans. But in some cases, this insurance policy, known as a credit swap, has been issued by hedge funds that themselves had taken on similar risks. If things go bad, a hedge fund may not have the money to uphold its side of the insurance bargain.

It is in the nature of the new financial order that it's hard to figure out exactly what everyone's role is. All the borrowers are lenders and all the lenders turn out to be borrowers, so nobody -- including regulators -- can quite figure out where the ultimate risks really lie.

Yesterday's turmoil, for example, started when BNP Paribas, France's largest bank, announced that it was halting withdrawals from three of its hedge funds. So is BNP Paribas a bank or a hedge fund? Well, it's both.

The bank part has surely made lots of loans to hedge funds, including its own. And the BNP hedge funds surely used those loans to buy other loans and bonds, perhaps even those originated by BNP's bank or underwritten by BNP's investment bank.

These complex and synergic relationships have created a system that is more stable in the face of a mild economic downturn, a string of bankruptcies, or the failure of a hedge fund or two. But as Tim Geithner, the president of the New York Fed has
warned, when the financial system comes under extreme stress, those same complex relationships could have just the opposite effect, creating a "domino effect" that increases the risk of a system-wide failure. That fear was very
much present in the markets yesterday.

One concern is that rather than spreading risk among millions of investors, the current system has reconcentrated risk on the books of a dozen global broker-dealers who lend most of the money to fund managers so they can buy all those credit instruments. And it is many of the same firms -- Goldman Sachs, Bear Stearns, Deutsche Bank, Citicorp -- that have also underwritten hundreds of billions of dollars in corporate takeover loans that, suddenly, they cannot sell as they had
planned.
It's no coincidence that the shares of such firms have taken a beating in the past few months as rumors swirl around Wall Street that one or another is facing major losses.

We may be discovering, in fact, that the new financial order is not all it is cracked up to be.

Although it has provided ingenious new mechanisms to finance the legitimate needs of businesses and householders and new ways for investors to hedge risks, it has also created opportunities for potentially destabilizing speculation.

It is now common for the aggregate value of "derivative" instruments to be many times the volume of the stocks, bonds or commodities on which they are supposedly based. And often it is the trading on derivatives markets that now drives
the trading on "real" markets, rather than the other way around.

Australian analyst Satyajit Das makes the point that the main achievement of the new financial architecture has not been to spread risk so much as it has been to expand risk by vastly increasing the amount of borrowed money. Making loans to buy bonds secured by packages of other loans makes for big fees and exciting work for bankers. But as Das predicted last year in his book, "Traders, Guns & Money" -- and as we all iscovered yesterday -- if the supply of credit suddenly dries up anywhere in the system, the elaborate new structure they've created can come crashing down on
itself.

Steven Pearlstein can be reached atpearlsteins@washpost.com.

mudshark @ 77:

strawberry @ 18:

Nicole Belle @ 2:

I do, Strawberry. And not without daily phone calls to the State Department, Congress critter, and every other bureaucrat I could find. The promised 10-12 week processing time took closer to 20 weeks and probably would not have come through had not I not been a bulldog about getting them.

The Passport Agency is in crisis mode. When I asked one of them if I could blame Bush for it, she said "Yes, you can. We warned the White House that we were not equipped to handle their changes and they completely disregarded our supervisors." Out of the mouths of civil servants...

I don't know why, but the passport situation really solidifies all the fear I have regarding Bushco. It sounds so stupid, but my argument is, if something as simple as PASSPORTS! becomes so effed up...oh God, and we should trust these boneheads with say social security, infrastructure, health care, attacking other countries...IT'S A FRIGGIN' PASSPORT! How hard can it be? Wait don't answer that. I'm watched the stock market tank again today and all Bushco could do was stand back and throw money at it. Ya know, I'm really trying hard to cut back on the Bombay and tonics...

it took me less than 5 weeks to get mine......oh I guess I should mention ...mines a British Passport
....

I had to renew my British Passport, I mailed the renewal form and my old Passport on a Thursday and on Tuesday my new one arrived.

ERyno@24 you said,
"Nothing was lost in the stock market this week except maybe the illusion that it ever existed at all.

Play with your kids . . . have relationships . . . play some Frisbee with friends. Then you’ll have something . . . cause non of us are going to get out of this life thing alive."

Gorgeous. Giddy. Frightening emptiness.

mudshark @ 78:

All the Govt did was print more money...with nothing to back it...Talk about a strawman.

Uhm. Everybody's taxes, hands across the water. Just nail this one to the trillions we can only hope future generations get to laugh about with it's irrelevance.

An itsy aside re home loans to those who couldn't afford them. Why not mention what it is those loans actually bought in terms of actual value. What home in 1980 was accessible to an average working family is now the equivalent of purchasing a ratty clunker of a 3br ranch 50's style for the price of a 10-br 4bath mansion with land.

So much for our perspective about real time, real money and real value.

Oh and these guys have gone Right wing straight to the public trough to gorge on a bail out.

These guys shouldn't have to endure financial hardships for mistakes. Their Aristocrats damn it.

Only middle class and the poor deserve what they reaped.

Just think if we had just putour Social socurity into thse money making market of pure intentions.

What privatization of a safety net would look like is these sub prime loans.

World-wide credit fears, at last something we can give boosh credit for.

Paul @ 74:

And the Chinese are threatening to dump/call in their 1.3 trillion of US government debt. The house of cards is getting kind of shaky.

Hiya, tyree
"is that where the maggot supply for old lady bush is located?

Baba Yaga Bush: "Let them eat "rice"!"

Shouldn't that be: "Let them eat 'lice'!"

I'm scared. Somebody hold me.

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