Jon Stewart Battles It Out with Bill Kristol Over Iraq
By SilentPatriot Monday Aug 13, 2007 12:20pm
Finally someone calls out Bill Kristol on his neocon Iraq bull$hit. MSM, take note:This is how it's done.
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Although not as combative as William the Bloody's last sit down with Jon, it was a great interview nonetheless. You'll never see Chris Wallace, Brit Hume or Juan Williams call Kristol out like this.
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I wouldn't call that a battle. More like a tea party where, as Stewart says, "Two Jews agree to disagree."
Stewart was too nice to him....but it was funny....the look on Crystals face...lol
Is Kristol's smirk a result of inbreeding, an early study on Botox, or the scars left over by his soul leaving his body a couple decades ago?
Also this is the "brain" behind Dan Kayle, how come no one points that out to this creep when he comes to spew his bullshit, and tell him to just shut the fuck up?
I'm sure Jon finds that one can't have a battle of the wits if the opponent shows up unarmed.
Actually, it's not "how it's done" at all. Jon was practically chummy with Kristol by the end, laughing at his "jokes" like a hyena. I know that The Daily Show is ostensibly a comedy program, but Stewart really missed an opportunity to take Kristol to the mat here. Jon's usually smarter than to be taken in by a guest's "charm," so why did he let Billy K. to get away with some really scary comments at the end of the interview? Was it just because he finished his statements with a joke? Nope, wasn't impressed.
'Battles It Out?!' This was softball. Jon let Kristol spout the same 'wait a little longer, it'll all work out just fine, you'll see' bullshit. I know he's a television host and must be cordial and polite, but christ - when will anyone get angry? Fight vitriol with vitriol and play the game the neocons play, since that seems to be what most Americans respond to.
I'm sorry, I just don't think Kristol deserves any respect at all. Jon is too kind to the bastard. I can't stand that smirk and he shows no remorse what so ever. People are dead because of this prick. A lot of innocent people.
Oh, and another thing: did you hear Kristol state that invading Iran was "a good idea?" That should've stopped Stewart in his tracks, instead of causing him to chuckle like a drinking buddy and move on. Seriously, these guys think they can smile and delay until it's too late - just like they did with Iraq.
It was a good interview. The thing is that Krystol, equivocating liar that he is, never said anything of real substance. Everything he said was merely his opinion. Even the supposed good results emerging from "the surge" (I can live a million years and never hear that word from a neo-con warpusher ever again. Fucking bumper sticker republicans...grrr...) that he, if you believe him at all, saw with his own eyes wasn't backed up by anything substantive. John, very politely, took him apart.
That IS how it is done.
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Very classy interview by JS. I saw it last night and what sticks out is BK's tendency to slip zombie like into the talking points of the day. I wish JS would have contradicted the reliance on that O'Hanlon/Pollack article, as though it is worth anything. But it is very telling that when confronted with the opportunity to really debate the merits of specific issues and subissues, all BK could do was repeat the well rehearsed, progress/Petraus/September/etc.
Bonkers @ 9:
I have to amend what I said and agree with strawberry a bit:
being polite with these people is mostly pointless. Bastards, all of 'em.
"This is the way MSM should handle people like Kristol???" I saw nothing and heard
nothing that put Kristol under the mat...so was very, very disappointed.
Has anyone noticed that Kristol has already given us Gen. Petraeus' report a month early.
Let it play out for another six months or more!!!
And sadly, the wimps in congress will never defy our Ulysess. S. Grant.
*Ulysses* S. Grant
I always thought "William the Bloody," made him sound too butch, unless you mean that as a Anglicism.
Will someone knock that smirk of Kristol's face?
NationalKato @ 8:
Yeah, I thought I was the only person that caught this. It was said with such non-chalance; it's a little disturbing.
ysbaddaden @ 16:
Any Joss Whedon fan will tell you that "William the Bloody" is actually Spike, the lovable platinum haired vampire. It p!sses me off to hear Smirking Bill referred to this way.
I'm convinced that Kristol only made it through his school years because the family had to provide him with bodyguards. The smirk is the look he gave his would-be tormenters as he hid behind the thugs.
Ever see the movie "Mommie Dearest" where she smacks the kid with a coat hanger? I think Kristol's mommie shoved a coat hanger in his mouth, and that's where the smirk comes from.
NationalKato @ 8:
I'm copying and pasting the above comment because it bears repeating.
Blactor @ 18:
I've seen it referenced on several blogs, so no, you weren't the only one who noticed, even if it got past Jon Stewart.
Where to start with this one? What's up with the hype, Silent Patriot? Very disappointing. Stewart was okay, but the chummy laughter really angers me. Yeah, yeah, I know...comedy...
After Kristol, said it's "not a bad idea" to invade Iran? WTF? This tool's only job is to get the talking points out slowly but surely until everyone's convinced it's always been this way. You know the boiling frog thing...Sickening!
What the hell... your take, or should I say "spin" on this is just as bad as the right-wing site you criticize for such bias inflated posturing. This was really disappointing... in your baiting, and Stewart for his "pussy"ing. Augh - so frustrating. Say it like it is, not like you want it!!
Sorry. Can't watch. I'm sure that Stewart was very nice to bloody Kristol. If I wanted to see something like that I'll watch Punkinhead Russert interview him.
gummitch @ 23:
That's the one quote of Kristol's that I wrote down while watching JS play nice with Billy.
Stewart is such a funny guy, but doing his usual Kermit the Frog / Muppet Show routine for a war criminal? Not great.
It's shameful that Kristol gets ANY exposure at all. He got it ALL WRONG... he wouldn't even acknowledge Stewart's references to Afghanistan... he mis-represented his other "experts..." and at the end Stewart smiles and shakes his hand like he's one of the good ole boys.
I just cnacelled my subscription with TIME because I can't stand seeing Kristol's Commentary being supported by MY MONEY... and that's the reason I gave the magazine.
Stewart should cancel further appearances by this dufus.
and invading Iran? "Not a bad idea" ...?
Thats true --- its a horrible idea. But these dummies are too punch drunk to even notice.
I agree with the comments from above. Right out of the box Stewart allowed Kristol to slide when Kristo claimed that morale is high among the troops. The last thing that the vast majority of those troops want to do is to remain in that quagmire, remaining in that incredible heat where they end up killing and terrorizing innocent Iraqis for absolutely no justifiable reason whatsoever. I would venture to guess that most of those in the military are not there because of patriotic reasons; they are in the military because economic conditions have forced them to sign up so that they and their families could receive benefits that they would not have received in civilian life. All Stewart had to say to Kristol was that since the war/occupation was illegal to begin with, then there is simply no credible reason why American troops should be in Iraq, where they are causing mayhem and chaos and terror and inflaming the insurgency in Iraq for again, no justifiable reason at all. But perhaps Stewart feared that to proclaim such an obvious truth would not have produced many laughs, as if the topic of war and its aftermath of broken bodies and minds and families could actually be considered to be a topic fit for merriment and hilarity.
MeMyselfAndI @ 3:
No, that smirk is the result of knowing he has his $ millions....and he'll always keep those $ millions.
I noticed the "invade Iran" gloss too. WTF? Jon coulda done a lot better than this interview. I'm sure he's probably watched it back and was thinking..."What was I thinking!?"
Lots of glosses in there.
The one line that stuck out for me was "don't trust me (Bill Kristol), don't trust Bush".
WTF? Who's left? Cheney?
I think that people unfairly ask too much of Jon Stewart. A sign of our WEAK MSM.
I don't know why Kristol goes on TDS. He always ends up looking like an idiot, even if some people think Stewart is too nice to him. I personally think that Jon Stewart really wants to know what makes these neo-cons tick. Are they liars? Do they believe what they say? Would they put the party above EVERYTHING? I think just by putting them on his show and forcing them to answer some tough questions and back their position is about all we can ask from a "fake news" host. We don't need him to lecture his guests - that won't help.
Colbert is better suited to deal with people like Kristol...
I noted that Kristol said he was recently "in Iraq for 8 days". Was he in Bagdah itself and
if so, was he ONLY in the Embassy behind the walls of the Green Zone? Was he
in restricted areas as designated by the Pentagon as other visitors have been limited to?
According to him, the surge is "going well"; but I am wondering to what extent he was
physically and literally "in the streets of Bagdah"?
I watched it last night and I thought Jon was giving Bill too much leeway. He tried to zing him a few times, but Kristol just side-stepped them, raised his voice over Jon's to make his point and then Jon ADD'd his way into another question.
I was expecting more of Jon, as he has never let me down before, but this time I wasn't impressed... so much so that I changed the channel. A first. It was truly cringe-worthy television.
Stewart, uncharacteristically, missed the boat as it left the dock.
Kristol should have been reminded that he also said that things were "going well" in Iraq at every point in this misbegotten adventure. Things are going well now? Isn't that a repudiation of every statement you've made since the war began?
Kristol, and the other war-mongering neocon pussies need to be exiled to an internment camp in the desert, and provided with just enough spoiled food and warm water to keep them on the verge of dying. I wonder if he'd be smiling then.
That was awful.
F Jon Stewart. He legitimizes this fraud with his deference, and his questioning was weak.
Not only did he let Cristol get away with saying we should invade Iran (!!), but also that "nobody argues the surge isn't working" (wtf?) AND the ridiculous notion that the surge was the president listening to the voters of 2006.
WTF Jon?
Awful performance. Absolutely awful.
Hey, did you hear that? Everything is going to work out in Iraq. Just let the general play it out.
Wow, feel better now.
Bic @ 25:
Faux...bought.
Limbaugh...payed for.
You...played like a gay hooker in a reich-winger's bedroom.
I'll take what Stewart give us. If he gets to aggresive they will not come on. Kristol hopes if he comes enough he will get some of his bullsh*t across. It never does. He must enjoy leaving with his spear tipped tail between his legs.
Jon... get your water skis on
Stewart is great, but in one respect Kristol is correct. US soldiers in Iraq are feeling more optimistic about their chances too succeed. They want our political leaders to turn the tide back to supporting the war. Whether or not we believe that, or how we act on that is a separate issue.
telecom @ 46:
I really wish reich-wingers would stop speaking for the troops as some collective mind. Many, many troops know this joke of a "war" is an utter failure, but continue to support the fight because it's their brothers they are supporting, not adolf dubyah and his perverse ideology.
Stewart probably feels that he can't be too hard on Kristol or else the guy won't come on his show anymore.
When Kristol admits to Jon that he has made mistakes, he left unsaid what he was thinking as the rest of the sentence: " and I don't care ".
The prediction that the neocons would switch sides in the partisan divide, having drained the GOP of its vital juices and left it a dry husk, and are readying themselves for the era of "Bush lite" is the latest shape shift.
The situation will be worse for Hillary, who will have to establish her macho credentials by bombing somebody, anybody, anytime and anywhere.
he was too nice to him. But I can't believe the tough crowd here. lets take a step back. Apparently the bar has been set so high for the caliber of interview that colbert/stewart bring forth .
I cant stand BK either and Im sure John was hitting himself afterwards. Its a fine line and hard to balance to really stickj it to these guys without making it a pissing contest.
As always, on top Mr. Stewart!
Uh, wait. So Viacom employee Jon Stewart isn't part of the "mainstream media"?
I can't watch that kind of stuff anymore. The Daily Show used to be an escape for me....somewhere I could go to feel better. Not anymore. I mean, they bring in Bill Kristol to shoot the sh!t and John basically disagrees with him on the Iraqi surge....so what. This Kristol guy is someone who probably deserves to die for his crimes that has resulted in the death of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians yet the DS brings him in to have a chat and a laugh. It validates his existence and he shouldn't exist.
ChrisM70,
You make a great point. I think a lot of people, in their desperation for having a news media that speaks truth to power, expect the Daily Show to be "Frontline" or something. Jon Stewart is a comedian and The Daily Show is a comedy show. Stewart is a beacon for everyone who wants to see someone say the things that they wish they, or some MSM interviewer, would say to these morons like Kristol. But, let's face it, Stewart's goal is to keep people interested in his show by being the ultimate smart ass, though I think that title more rightly goes to Colbert, and not the scathing dissector that a prick like Kristol deserves.
editorkid @ 52:
O'Reilly and Insanity both claim faux isn't part of the MSM.
Kristol, AGAIN?
Can John McCain be far behind?
Thanks, for the heads up; I won't be watching.
This Prick Kristol talks about war like its a f-ing Board Game. Its about real people and blood. Sociopath.
Well as Palast writes so eloquently, the neocons are on the outs, with Perle, Wolfie, Feith and Rummy getting their walking papers in the last couple years. Big oil is temporarily in the driver's seat and OPEC will continue to set quotas. Crude prices have appeared to stablize in the wake of this purge (for now), and the profits are in the stratosphere. But the IOC's are still waiting to divvy up the Iraqi reserves, more to LIMIT production than to enhance it, much to the pleasure of the House of Saud.
And for the Iraqi people - nothing.
I thought this interview was pro-war propaganda-jon stewart has really backed off the progressive stance-what happened-I don't watch hima smuch anymore, because he seems to never have progressives on-mccain has been on over and over-where are the democratic guests? I feel like he reeled paople in, but now really supports the republican viewpoint very kindly-this started about a year ago-what's up?
I sympathize with people who think Jon should have done more but remember this folks: people like this Neo-Con come on the Daily Show only because it's a comedy program and that the worst that will happen is that they will be caused some embarrassment with an absolute guarantee from Jon Stewert that it would not go beyond that.
The very fact that we expected more from the Daily Show highlights the state of "our" liberal MSM and demonstrates what happens when all the major media outlets in the country are owned by five corporations that also own other corporations that profit from war.
Jon Stewert did the best he could do within the constraints of his program.
telecom @ 46:
Give me a break. The troops are not allowed to talk to the press anymore without permission and then they have to stick to a deliberate script. Shut up neocons, just shut up.
The surge is working, the infusion of cash into the market is working, the levees are working, healthcare is working, states budgets are balanced, the deficit is shrinking, that toy is safe, that fish is tilapia; as labeled, no child has been left behind, everybody has a great job, your house will appreciate, the shuttles ok, the middle-class is flourishing, al Qaeda has been contained… blah blah blah... what a crock of shit! Time to take our lumps.
If they say something that makes it true?
Anyway, that's a tautology. It has nothing to do with the question.
Arguably, Stewart's deference (even subservience) to Kristol show how thoroughly he is part of the MSM.
strawberry @ 61:
Do you have sources to back that up? I don't know whether it's true or not but it sounds like something you just heard from someone or may have been exaggerated.
Overall, I think it was a great interview. This is what we need - 2 obvious opposing views from people who are able to come together and have intelligent discussion. Sure, we all are on JS's side in this but I still love to see a good intelligent discussion between both sides.
Dan @ 64:
Yeah, my husband.
Where or where were the Boooo's from that frickin' audience!!!!!?????? when k. start his BS. I'd have been screeming "Bloody" murder. The quy is an evil fuckin' pig and does not deserve to be treated with any respect what-so-f,,,,,,n-ever!!!!
Oh and Dan, remember that Stryker Soldier a few months back that said that all he wanted to do was to get back to his wife and play his Playstation? Well, his wife is a friend of mine. That soldier got smoked for that innocent comment. He was told NO MORE INTERVIEWS. PERIOD.
strawberry @ 65:
Ahh.. well the 3 guys I know over in Iraq are not censored so it must have to do with what areas they are in.
Not bashing Stewart, because as some here have already pointed out, this is show bidness, but I really don't want to see Kristol's pasty, pansified (s)mug on ANY show ANY more, period. The man and his whacked-out imperialistic fantasies have been completely discredited and he has no business being interviewed by anyone on anything remotely connected with foreign policy.
If he were a Dem, he would have already been banished to the hinterlands with arrows in his back.
Kristol's smirk is a result of having swallowed Stewart's balls.
What gives? Please Jon, spend an entire show explaining why you were doing an O'ral-ly impression on your very own show.
That truly ranked with Richardson's minimalist blunder and I gotta say "pretty pussy".
You always do better than that and couldn't do worse.
You’ll never see Chris Wallace, Brit Hume or Juan Williams call Kristol out like this.
Actually I've seen Juan Williams call out Kristol on a consistent basis. A few of them were posted on this blog.
You just want war, war, war, and you want us in more war. You wanted us in Iraq. Now you want us in Iran. Now you want us to get into the Middle East. … You’re saying, why doesn’t the United States take this hard, unforgiving line? Well, the hard and unforgiving line has been, we don’t talk to anybody. We don’t talk to Hamas. We don’t talk to Hezbollah. We’re not going to talk to Iran. Where has it gotten us, Bill?
At that point Kristol threw up his hands and said nothing. I don't always agree with Williams but on most Sundays around the Fox table, it's him vs the others.
strawberry @ 67:
I do remember that.... I can't believe they are censoring some of the soldiers. If you think about it all too much, I sometimes think it could kill someone with how angry all this stuff can make you.
Yeah, this is how it's done, but a psycho like Kristol should not be treated like a serious pundit. He is totally wrong about everything and he is insane. He should denied a place where he can spout such psychotic falsehoods. Soon he's seriously going to start saying that LA is on the east coast and NY on the West and that Alex Rodriguez can't hit. That's how out of touch he is. Really, this guy needs to be boycotted until he takes some more reasonable positions. And if that's never, well, don't let the door hit ya on the way out you psycho.
Jon Stewart was not prepared for this interview. It was akin to sitting down with Larry King.
It's too bad Kristol couldn't have sat down with Juan Cole. Stewart never called him on the propaganda surge that's going on nor did he challenge him on 'talks with the soldiers'. o think that Kristol spoke candidly one on one with the grunts beggars the imagination.
"Surge is going well", according to Kristol. Check out Yahoo News within last 30
minutes. 17 "official" military trucks, containing "uniformed"insurgents, stormed the Oil Ministery Compound in Bagdah and kidnapped the Oil Ministery and 3 of this officials
and two more truck bombers struck the out skirts of that city..
One of the most reviled human beings on the planet. He should be put away. Thank you John Stewart for laughing right in the face of this moron. What kind of schmucks actually pay this asshole--like TIME. He is disgusting.
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pine nut @ 69:
And it's not good show business.
Think Viacom can find any Hollywood people to put on? I'd rather see the worst bimbo than the same tired old neocon over & over.
So much more in-depth than most of the MSM. I was most struck by 1) Kristol's eagerness to blame war opponents, who've gotten it correctly, and 2) his BS propaganda that Pollack et al. weren't war hawks and Bush cheerleaders.
Having people I know and love getting blown to bits does have a tendency to piss me off. Silly me. And Dan, every soldier knows where the line is in dealing with the press now. They even get a little booklet/pamphlet on what to say. They must put on a happy face. And the soldiers by nature don't bitch about anything, especially to someone like you, a civie. My husband never tells anyone beside me what's really going on. Hell, my friend gets all her info from me because her husband won't tell her what's going on because he doesn't want to worry her. She's freaking out because she feels she's being shut out and can't help him. YOU as a civie are not going to get the true story. You are an outsider.
That was a great interview? Kristol calls him a pussy.
Kristol deserves to thrown onto a Baghdad street (oustide the greenzone) in the middle of the night, with no body armour and fend for himself.
wow, if only Stewart would re-grow the pair that he lost somewhere along the way to mainstreaming his show.
Remember his 9/11 monologue? Brilliant.
The Daily Shows get more and more toothless by the episode. Convergence - The Daily Show looks more like network news every day.
Oh, invading Iran is a good idea according to Kristol but Stewart said nothing! WTF?!?!?!?!
I followed up watching Jon Stewart with an e-mail to kristol today telling him that he fooled no one. Try that instead of castigating Stewart.
However, I do wish that Stewart had pursued the O'Hanlon/Pollock remark. Jon just quickly responded that they weren't real critics of the war when Kristol tried to use that meme as cheney did on Meet the Press and the moment passed without a spark.
I think we are so desperate to hear the truth that we have placed that onus on Jon's shoulders. Kristol's lying was transparent and the audience got it.
Even though I'm a peace time vet, I would say most soldiers only fight to stay alive, and maybe save a buddy. They probably don't think about policy issues since WWII when their drill sergeant would shout in a call-and-response, "Who are we fighting for?" "Our women and children sir!"
We already have the women in the troops, but if we are stuck in Iraq for the next 28 years the soldiers's children can join them in the ranks too.
Bill Kristol should be institutionalized. If he believes his own tripe, what a profoundly dishonest mind. If he doesn't believe it and is spewing it in order to manipulate, what a evil man.
I like Stewart a lot but I thought he let Kristol get away with the same ol' B.S.
Maggie @ 84:
Bravo. As far as I'm concerned, the fact that Jon laughed in Kristol's face, more than once, was as stinking a rebuke as anybody could have given someone so self-important and so ludicrously deluded. Jon needed to do nothing further in my eyes.
You know, the interviews on TDS are five minute interviews, at best. I appreciate that 95% of people on progressive blogs want them to re-invent the wheel, but if you're going to be that stiff-necked, disappointment is inevitable. If you want Stewart to be Bill O'Reilly with the people you can't stand, disappointment is also inevitable. Because that's never, ever been his style. I mean never.
How could he sit there and giggle with a murderous cheerleader with blood-soaked pom-pons? As much as i try, and as much as i respect Stewart whole-heartedly, i simply don't get it.
You call this "calling him out"??! I'd say Stewart was a pussy.
Assumption Complete
It took some doing and time, but the president managed to get the public and critics to buy the notion that everything is better in Iraq. Al Qaeda, after inserting them into Iraq's complex dynamic, is on the run; we have made much process. Now they can just be left alone to their "smart" bombs, their endless cycle of creating insurgents and their daily theft of Iraqi oil.
It is hard to watch a lie being told. While watching the president and his generals transform one of Iraq civil combatants into Al Qaeda, it has been like watching a slow motion scene that is premiering, for the first time, a lie unfolding from conception to the cold calculating claims they are making about progress in Iraq.
Al Qaeda in Iraq came at the same time as the surge. The above quote was written in May, but the claims Al Qaeda was behind most bombings and killing started in January. Yes, since the surge, the president's propaganda department has been very busy with making the case for the continuing this war. Anybody would have to stoop and wonder why is Bush so bent on fighting this war.
Now that all of Bush's pieces are in place, the Golden Boy, General David Patreaus is ready to deliver the next box of rocks. It really angers me, as I watched the campaign to stay in Iraq develop to its end, to see the Democratic powers not doing anything to counter this latest propaganda campaign. They seem to let it all play out. I am going under the assumption, if I saw what Bush was putting down, others saw the same thing. I hope I am wrong. Maybe some congressperson or senator will come forward a yell foul.
Joseph
I wanna snort some of the stuff Bill Kristol is having, must be good sh*t since it can take out of reality in no time.
I still would like to see Bill Kristol’s portfolio. How big a war profiteer is he?
I think Jon Stewart let us down. Period. You don't laugh with a guy like Kristol. You don't kibbitz when there's this much blood on the table, and though i think that's how Jon sees it, it's not how countless of families who've lost their loved ones see it.
I was appalled. I'll continue to watch the show, but my opinion of the show is diminished.
Kristol is certifiably insane. No connection to reality whatsoever. He should be committed to an asylum for the criminally insane and they should throw away the key. That clip was frightening. Don't blame Stewart. He was merely allowing us to see with our own eyes how psychotic he is.
I actually saw a conversation between two pussies. Jon admitted being a pussy and didn't confront Kristol who is trying to still make up for the lack of a small penis and probably getting his ass kicked as a kid for being a pussy. Either way you look at it the whole skit smelt of pussy...no offense to pussies.
Jon Stewart is Jon Stewart. Period. He does comedy and he treats even the most serious events with kit gloves. Kristol wouldn't go up against Randi Rhodes or any other Liberal who would give the cathartic response we all deep down desire.
As crazy as he is, Kristol thinks he's doing the right thing. It's not personal and Stewart understands this.
Stewart controlled the interview like a master and got all of his points in. I think it was terrific.
Do you hear the shake in Kristol's voice as he says things he knows are false or half-truths? Very noticeable. The sound of a man who has to be careful of what he says in order to have it fit together.
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Can't stand watching any of these interviews with Kristol. There's nothing funny about it. Kristol's ideological crew is in disgrace all over the world except for the US. Stewart only offers further normalization of a world class monster. Ha, ha, ha... the jokes on us.
ahh the certainty of vagueness - things are getting better - what things - well certain things
Bill Kristol is such a smirking doucebage (sp?) that watching his arrogance on disply makes you wish that Jon would just get up out of his chair, walk over to Kristol and slap the smirk off his face.
It is too much sometimes to watch this arcitect of hate/war/blood and ignorance sit there and lie to defend his obvoulsly miguided plan.
And to say, wait, trust us... we'll eventually get it right while other peoples (certainly not rich Republican) young die fighting in the neo cons WAR of CHOICE is... well, bullshit!
Bill humbled Jon last time and I wish that Jon had done the same this time.
Jon did a good job but not a HUMBLING job.
Bill Kristol=lying fricking liar!!!
After all those years of we're doing the right thing, all of a sudden we did it wrong in 2005 and 2006... bullshit!!!!!
I did like that he said don't trust Bush though...
Kri$tol, you've been wrong about almost EVERYTHING, you asshat
when that lady said turd blossom coffee came out of my nose.
strange that. i wasn't drinking coffee.
Well, there he goes again.
oops wrong thread....blushes.
Blactor @ 18:
More than a little disturbing considering this prick has Bush and Real-President Cheney's ear...
General David Petraues (angelic chorus) is the most partisan four star since LeMay. I think General David Petraeus (angelic chorus) will say what ever he is told to say. General David Patraeus (angelic chorus) may go to sleep at night dreaming of what it would be like to sit in the Oval Office - as the occupant, not a supplicant.
I will never understand individuals who believe that it's Jon Stewart's job to stand up for all American people everywhere. As he says time and again, he is a comedian first and foremost.
Yes, he cares, and sometimes he shows his teeth. But most of the time, he's far too modest and, in my opinion, insecure. The dude is the king of self-deprecation.
And I say that as a huge fan. I think his lack of confidence can be endearing, actually. He strikes me as the type of man who is a pretty sweet (I mean that in the literal sense, not the colloquial sense) guy in real life.
Anyhow.
In defence of Kristol, at least he takes Jon's comments--in both interviews--with relatively good humour. He's polite for the most part, which is more than I'd expect from rabid and stupid Republican mouthpieces.
Why let John Stewart "off the hook" for providing a platform for blood soaked war mongerers?
Stewart is an adult - being a comedian does not absolve a person of moral responsibility.
If Goebbels were alive today would Stewart avoid all those difficult questions about the camps? Concentration camps are so unfunny and it's supposed to be a funny show, ...
Stewart and the Daily Show have been heading down the slippery slope of trying not to offend for some time. Stewart seems like a really nice guy but so what?
Remember when Chris Rock covered the New Hampshire primaries on the Daily Show? That was funny, biting and relevant.
He wants ANOTHER SIX MONTHS!
Another Friedman unit! These guys are so amazingly lame.
Tie goes to the runner. Kristol won. Are there any other comedians out there so that we can get our news?
sieg hail nazi son of a bitch kristol, this man has been consistantly wrong on pretty well EVERYTHING regarding this war, yet he sits there like he's sun tzu with that demonic smirk on his face, and you just know that everytime he debates the war from here on in he will utter the words "have you been to Iraq ?", arrogent horrible little man, how he has the gall to sit there talking about invading Iran is beyond me, this guy has utter contempt for soldiers iraqis and human life in general, ...twat.
Every time I see this guy I want to get violent.
BassGuyGG @ 117:
Same here.
This just isn't funny.
America is in the toilet.
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hooptycritter @ 113:
Well, giving the other side a chance to speak their minds is a little classier than only interviewing pre-approved, liberal guests. Even O'Reilly brings onto his show those he disagrees with (even if he inevitably has their mics cut).
Ah, "moral responsibility." I hate to break this to you, but there is no such thing as objective Moral Responsibility. There is only your opinion, and even that is suspect at best. What would you have Stewart do? Yell at him? Physically restrain him? You could use your 'moral imperative' comment to justify murdering Kristol, for Christ's sake. Would it not be worth the lives of those who would not be forced to endure his insidious justifications?
You aren't thinking with morals so much as indignation. And emotional thinkers is something liberals should try to avoid being typecast as.
Inevitably, the Nazi comparisons come out! You've officially become the liberal equivalent of Bill O'Reilly. Think about it.
And Jon Stewart doesn't have to do dick-all to appease you. Sorry!
Cat Atomic @ 114:
Yup! Good observation.
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must have missed something. it was entertaining, but hardly what i would term sticking it to him. hardly probing journalism. i'll read the comments now and see if if missed anything.
dixie blood @ 120:
AGAIN I ASK, IS ALL UPPERCASE ALSO OFF LIMITS TOO???
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nO pROBLEM,
BIll kriStTOL SUcks!!!
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Raise the eligibility age to EXACTLY that of Kristol's and send this bloodthirsty, cowardly, motherfucker over to clear mines with a fucking tweezer.
In other Fixed Noise news, the Half Hour News Hour has been shelved, but I think it's cancelled. What's a "comedy" show doing on a supposed news channel anyway.
Tad @ 94:
Sure call him out with maximum intensity. That will do just fine. Jon Stewart has to give his guest respect, while balancing the need for disclosure, so they will not tell other would be conservative guest to never go onto his show. Nobody wants to be somebody's "whipping" boy. When I look at from my provided perspective, you can see the skillful tact involved in doing such a interview. Respect the skill.
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bill kristol should be charged along with the bush administration with war crimes. He deserves nothing less than to face a trial for the murder of almost a million innocent Iraqis. His sentence should be carried out at the end of a rope, and should be televised on Faux News. F*ck him.
Jon Stewart did a masterful job of showing just what disgusting excuses for human beings kristol and all the other repukes who support the murderous cheney/bush administration, are. Great job, Jon.
Cat Atomic @ 114:
How many more years of "six months" do we need to finish this thing. Wow the balls they have and how the MSM doesn't call them on this EVERY TIME they say is beyond me!!
I love most all of what Stewart does, but this interview was far too congenial.
William "the Bloody" Kristol is a conniving, psychopathic war monger for his narrow interests.
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The meme I'd like to stress is that The Daily Show is now simply legitimizing Kristol's seriously dangerous lies and delusions. It's pointless to have somebody like Kristol on the program time after time... he will continue to spew the exact same neo-con claptrap in the same cluelessly smirking and condescending manner, and he is clearly constitutionally incapable of understanding reality or speaking anything remotely close to the truth on this topic. He has been tragically, stubbornly (and literally) dead wrong with virtually every single asinine opinion he has offered on Iraq since well before before 9/11, and nothing about that is going to change. Ever.
Stop enabling the crazy bastard. To ontinuing to give him airtime and pretend to take him seriously, or even to vaguely and good-naturedly challenge him, as in this clip, is frankly disgusting. William Kristol's hands are covered in the blood of countless dead and maimed Americans and Iraqis. Shake that hand and it's going to rub off on you.
The only reason to ever have William Kristol on network television at this point would be live coverage of the families of American soldiers dressing him up like a circus clown and having him dropped off by helicoptor onto the streets of Baghdad. I'm sure he won't be worried since things are "much improved" there.
a guy @ 122:
It keeps working. That's why they do it.
strawberry @ 80:
It's one of my biggest frustration, and any quips you do hear from ex-CIA or ex-FBI that speak out in other country or with family members doesn't get back to the mainland with any ounce of foresight of what is going on.
I seriously don't know if our country can be fix. You have six years of DOJ being wash out and replace with loyal Bushies, and from what I hear the same goes for the FBI and CIA. It takes years just to get into the intelligence agency. These kind of people are cream of the crops from elite colleges, and they have to be the kind of people that love their country. Background checks are applied to family members as well, and not just to the person going in, going all the way back to uncles and aunts. People don't understand my fervor to getting the impeachment process going. Or understand the significant of people quitting in the DOJ, after they have devoted their lives to get where they were. These people who quit, do so because they truly love their country, while BK loves money and power.
I think maybe they need 6 more month to sell those 190,000 guns that they lost in the Army clerk office.
That's about 1,055 gun per day in 6 month.
Jon Stewart is a complete ass-kisser; the idea that this was a tough interview, as many have noted, is nonsense. Just the fact that he's giving a platform to Kristol, like the nearly never-ending parade of other right-wing war hawks that appear on his show, is bad enough. Why doesn't Stewart ever have Norman Solomon on? Or any other actual opponents of the war? How about a representative of the ANSWER Coalition? Or United for Peace & Justice?
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miss_kitty @ 137:
They're running out the clock
"Things are going well...they're getting better." Kristol
Translation="We're still making a shit load of money off of the death
and misery of other human beings."
Eli Stephens @ 140:
This statement is also very telling, isn't it.
Billy Boy is gonna run to Fox Comedy Channel for a hug.
lewisnclark @ 136:
Very well said.
@Shawnmeat - maybe if you read and listened more then your words would not be so inane.
I do not have to fawn over Stewart's words any more than I have to give your comments more than a passing smirk.
Kristol is repugnant. If you haven't checked out the "Ship of Fools" article by Johann Hari yet, I strongly recommend it:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2766040.ece
While I would love to see Stewart deliver an undeniable KO to this creep, I always get the feeling Kristol is intimidated by Jon. The last time I saw him appear on The Daily Show his face was beet red the whole interview because he knows he comes across as a fool when he doesn't have the MSM shills there to back him up by acting as if his words are sent from the heavens. For someone who thinks his intelligence outshines all others, he only can spout talking points when confronted with someone he knows sees right through him. Jon Stewart shines a light on unreasonable arguments. To expect him to perform at his best every time or always conduct things exactly the way we'd like isn't realistic.
I liked a lot of that, but it didn't go far enough. The fact that Kristol said before the
war that Sunni and Shia weren't really enemies wasn't rubbed in enough and emphasized
enough by John. I've been hoping someone would call him on that for many months and
then it came and went without notice. And Stewart should have pooh-poohed that
Hanlon-Pollack trip to Iraq more. Those guys just saw what the army LET them see
for propoganda purposes. Stewart was a lot more polite and funny than I would be with this
creepy little turd.
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Sorry, the link provided @ 142 relates to some scary neocons but not Kristol in particular. Was thinking of another article detailing Kristol's philosophy that the intelligent "haves" should be keepers of the information and make decisions for the masses who do not have the brains to handle it.
The way to "handle" Bill Kristol is to reach over the desk and brutally spank the little shit for getting 3,500+ American soldiers, and perhaps as high as 650,000 Iraqis killed for his lame neocon ego.
Kristol: "I've gotten a few things wrong..." Bullshit! You've gotten EVERYTHING wrong!!!!!
I know it's a comedy show, and I fully support Jon humiliating/mocking these people, but don't end on that dweeb getting the last word.
Crush him like the bug he is.
All I'm saying is, it's not funny anymore (if it ever really was). I just want these neocons GONE. They've committed what amounts to negligent homicide on a MASSIVE scale. Let them run off to Bush's other "ranch" in Paraguay. That is where Nazis go to die after all.....
Just get the hell out of my country.
Eli:
I think your arguments are over the top. We're talking about a *comedy* show here, not a forum for what you apparently seem to think is a rabid reich-wing Israel sympathizer.
All your claims about Stewart's sabre-rattling prove to me is that the "left" is every bit as intolerant and paranoid as the "right."
I agree completely. The reason, of course, is that Jon Stewart has corporate masters too.
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