Would Giuliani Bomb Iran?
Yglesias gives political reporters a worthwhile assignment:
Norm Podhoretz thinks the United States ought to launch a preventive military strike on Iran. He's also one of Rudy Giuliani's official national security advisers. He also, apparently, thinks Rudy agrees with him about the need to launch a preventing military strike on Iran but "hasn't asked him directly, because he doesn't want to damage Giuliani's candidacy with the inevitable controversy that an affirmative answer might arouse."
As Sam Boyd points out, you'd really think one of the journalists covering the Giuliani campaign would want to dig into this a bit. Does Giuliani agree with Podhoretz? If not, why not? Does he think Podhoretz gives bad advice? And if Podhoretz's advice is bad, what's he doing advising the campaign?
So, any reporters up there ready to pick up on the challenge? Seems like an easy one....
Does he think Podhoretz gives bad advice?
Does he think that Alan Placa gives good advice?
Why doesn't Seán Hannity, who was a student at the high school where (and when) Placa was assigned as "Dean of Students" investigate and report?
Of course Julie would bomb. She used to do it regularly on Saturday Night Live.
tHESE lunatics aren't concerned about learning from history, from Guliani to lou dobbs who just had the criminal neocon james woosley, who along with podhoretz advocated attacking IRAN, which dobbs was all in favor of . Unfortunately Dobbs had no one on, to rebut the utter insanity spewed by woolsey, who also was an Iraq war monger from the beginning .
What dobbs IS good at is attacking emigrants and China's supposed "military threat" or "commie.com threat" on a weekly bases and if you have read PNAC and their defense statement not only is Iran on the NEOCON hit list, unbelievably CHINA is too, so it looks like we know who dobbs is connected to.
Wow. The Republican candidates keep looking weaker and weaker. Maybe McCain still has a chance.
Oh sure: as if the world doesn't hate the U.S.A enough already. Dump the belligerence, pay attention to your own domestic wreckage, and you just might win back your former friends.
And another important question for all the canddidates...
Who would occupy all of their cabinet posts and chiefs of staff?
Which advisors?
Which interconnected profiteering think tanks are they associated to?
Any previous money laundering or arms dealing connections
from the Nixon/Ford/Cheney/Rumsfeld Reagan/Bush, Bush I, Bush II/Cheney eras?
Who will release all of their financial and government service records?
Who Wont?
http://www.whitehouseforsale.org
http://www.opensecrets.org
For a man who doesn't want to find out why they hate us, is going to drop the bomb in Iran. A man who has an answer for everything with simplistic slogan is going to drop a simplistic shock and awe bomb on Iran.
Would Giuliani Bomb Iran?
Anything. To. Get. Elected.
would he bomb iran? of course.
the question is "how soon would he bomb iran?".
It amazes me that nearly all of the R candidates continue to embrace this failure of a president's pathetic middle east policy. It must be a testament to Rove's influence over the Repug party or the belief that they can play this trump card yet another time...or they just want to lock down that 24% that are still with President Fucktard.
In any event, the good news is that there is no way one of these assholes will do anything but go down in flames like the Hindenburg in the general election...oh yeah. Unless the Repukes steal it again.
Kahoneez @ 3:
Dobbs is a mental blowjob who cannot get himself or his producers out of the Tanton network of thinking.
What is fascinating is to hear opinions of Lou Dobbs outside the USA, esp. from ultra-conservative right-wing people. He is universally despised, EVEN AMONG THAT GROUP, as a whack-job. Go figure.
Canadians are now reporting Lou Dobbs to the CITC for racism. !!!
Let's not forget that in the same article Podhoretz is quoted as saying that it's entirely possible Bush will take care of bombing Iran so his successor won't have to. That's the quote I'd like our intrepid manistream media to get cracking on.
Rudy is bush on red bull. Of course he'll say he'd bomb Iran if it'll get him one more vote.
republicans want more 'shock and awe", more torture, more killing. the u.s. has a dark cloud of mental illness over it and cynical, manipulative politicians are exploiting it.
And what precisely are Podhoretz's "qualifications" for giving military advise?
That he worked at the Moonie neocon rag, the "Spectator"?
Yeesh -- nice cred, Norm -- keyboard warrior....
Think Brownie but with nuclear consequences.
Somebody needs to tell these idiots that a resume requires more than just "I loves me some Republicans!" on it.
Of course he would bomb Iran. He's no different than Shrub. All of the Republican candidates are no different. Voting in another Republican would be Shrub 2.0 and a continuation of his policies.
But Watch. Rudy will self-destruct before he gets the nomination. He's a bully and a control freak. One of his temper tantrums will get caught on tape and it will destroy his chances.
A war monger and a serial fabricating opportunist... Yea, that's a hell of a team for the RNC to foist as presidential material.... Just about par for the course for that crowd...... Frankly I'm amazed that either one of these fucks have any gravitis at all this far down the road of this neocon inspired catastrophe...... Even with all the bullshit propaganda clouding the picture........JD
He would 69 with Barbara Bush if it could get him elected.
All Repuke candidates scare the hell out of middle/independent voter America.
They've seen what the fanatical right is capable of and won't let it happen again. BushCo was a complete failure except that it taught everyone a lesson: Voting for the GOP leads to full-scale disaster.
He'd bomb his 7th wife if he thought it would gain him a new mistress.
Why does the most obvious thing we can do to stop terrorism and stop so many other threats to our nation never get mentioned? That thing is for the US to move towards self sufficiency. If we could stop buying foreign oil and stop buying foreign junk, the financing for terrorism would all but stop and the financing for the Chinese to do the bad things they are doing would also stop. I know why some don't want to ever consider this as they are making billions but are all the people's representatives in Washington DC wholly owned by those interests? Apparently so.
The Chinese are slowly destroying us through economic warfare yet all we can see as a solution is dropping bombs. Economic warfare doesn't have the same immediate results as conventional war, but it is far more effective and far more long lasting.
DickCheneyShotMeInTheFace and fred farkel:
:-) correct
Yes. He'd love it. He'd also love another terrorist attack so he can be "America's President"
Tweety is jumping on some fuckin warhawk who's eating his foot on Hardballs. I'm impressed with him today.
Would he bomb Iran? This is laughable. When will the real questions be asked, such as, would he bomb us? The present adminstration attacked this country on 9/11, and they will probably do it again before Bush leaves office in an effort bolster support for the GOP and the supposed war on terror. Rudy is bathing in the wake of the phony 9/11 attack. What makes any of you think he wouldn't perpetuate the neo-con agenda and attack us again, himself?
Who would even want to be President in 2008? And of those people, who would want to be the Republican nominee?
Long before Bush stole two elections, there were predictions about when the Social Security mess was going to hit home and those predictions were roughly in 2008. The pre-Y2K tech boom probably pushed that eventuality back by a few years (yet Bush probably accelerated it by a few years), but the crash will happen during the next President's term.
Julie should keep in mind that Iran could probably easily sink some of those ships we have stationed in the Gulf. They could also cut off our supply lines to Baghdad. Would chickenhawk Julie bother to think of any of these strategic considerations.
The US has not attacked anyone with a muscular military in over 50 yrs. Iran has a formidable army and air force with the latest Soviet fighter jets and bombers. They also have a navy and submarines. They are not Iraq. If he thinks they would not retaliate he is a fool along with Cheney.
This NeoCon administration last attacked Iraq where we completely owned their airspace. No air force and an army weakened by a defeat and yrs of embargo, yet we have failed to even be able to secure one city(Baghdad). We are being led by deluded Leo Strauss groupies that mistakenly think we are omnipotent and have a God given right to tell everyone else on this planet what they can and can't do. They are not fit to even
serve on a school board, let alone lead the country. They really are quite insane and more than a little stupid. A deadly combination.
Sure, Rudy would bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran. Oh no, that's the other one... well, same difference; despite the dirty tricks, and election savvy they have I just can't see any of them winning the presidency.
giuliani would first force iran to be his well heeled mistress, then he would bomb.
forgetting rudifers horniness is where a lot of people miss partial credit on questions like these.
Reporters actually digging into a story and reporting?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! and miss the next invitation to the party?
You've got to be kidding!
Fageddaboudit!
Would Giuliani Bomb Iran?
Of course he would, as well as Ms Clinton and Obama would bomb it, and Pakistan too!
right now you are being programed by the neocons the news whores and all their pundits to believe you only have clinton and obamma as choices for president ,thats because they will win in 08 if you elect one or the other, kucinich 08 hes not bought and paid for!
sorry should have said run!
Saddam was "disarmed" of his fictional WMD's but who is going to disarm the GOP of their real ones before they kill again in the name of Halliburton and Big Oil?
As long as Americans are living in suburbia and exhurbia driving their SUVs too and from work, Wal-Mart, and the kiddies to soccer practice no oil rich country and their civilian population is safe from US bombs. Bottom line. Period. The End.
...and I don't care who is in the White House.
Would Ghouliani bomb Iran?
Of course. He's not called a GOP-Chickenhawk for nothing.
the phrase is 'preemptive strike'.
Any attack against Iran would be launched with tactical nuclear weapons against a nation posing no military threat to us. The consequences of letting that genie out of the bottle would set a precedent for the great powers the results of which can only be surmised. Anyone even remotely serious about committing such a global atrocity is mad as a Hatter and must be stopped.
a guy @ 10:
You sir are ILL INFORMED, do you just pull your facts straight out of your arse??
Ron Paul (r) never voted for the Iraq war.
Voted against the patriot act.
Voted against raising taxes.
Wants to end the war immediately.
Is the only honest member of congress.
SILENCE IS BETRAYAL
Vietnam avoider Rudy has all his Vietnam avoider friends to pimp for wars their own relatives won't have to fight. They pander to the lowest common voting denominator. Their base needs wars to give their meaningless lives meaning
Are you kidding? Rudy would bomb Harlem if given the chance.
Well, there's only 2 Dem candidates that would not bomb Iran too, and the "netroots" "progressives" don't take them seriously. So the personality politics goes on...........
You are all responsible. It is your society at fault.
I really wish people would use words properly. Preventive means to do something now to stop something bad or worse from happening in the future. Since there is absolutely no proof that Iran has intent to harm the US or US interests, the concept of preventing something bad from happening is a misnomer.
The correct phrase in this context would be "aggressive illegal first strike". That is what the neocons want. That is what they need to catapult their plans of world war.
I seem to remember another leader who kept cooking up reasons to invade other countries. First one, then another. As I remember, that didn't work out so well for him, or his country.
Umm, is there really any question? Of course he would! Giuliani is all about tough, macho bluster and disastrous policy.
Rudy is just a side show and a New York joke.
He as about as much a chance as Ron Paul, who incidentally, I admire.
Mormon Mitt is a maybe...maybe NOT!
Fred Thompson doesn't do anything without a plan...wait, that's almost his line from "Red October".
He is a Nixon minion, although Tricky Dick didn't think much of him, he has the best chance.
Go Al Go!!!
Why wait for Rudy? The White House just declared the entire Iranian National Guard a terrorist organizaion. Talk about fanning the flames. President Cheney is on the march.
Rudy and The Clowns are gonna win the Republican leadership.
There is no way that the Jewish folks are gonna back Romney and The Clowns. Mormon's have no "sense of faith" towards Israel. None at all. If anything, the Mormon's believe that Israel is just a hell on earth! The Jewish folks need/want "Israeli sympathy" in the White House and not somebody who has no attachment at all.
Thus .... if we believe that the Jewish folks have a huge influence upon the American electorate, then we must admit that Rudy will beat Romney and with a huge lead.
Calm
Doesn't really matter if he would bomb Iran, because by the time a new prez is sitting in the Oval Office, Iran will have already been bombed by us....
Isn't Norman Podhoretz the guy that gave us the quote regarding america's "sickly inhibitions against the use of military force" during the 80's? What a total idiot.
LOL!
This whole thing is Randy Newman's song, "Political Science" come to life.
No one likes us
I don't know why.
We may not be perfect
But heaven knows we try.
But all around even our old friends put us down.
Let's drop the big one and see what happens.
We give them money
But are they grateful?
No they're spiteful
And they're hateful.
They don't respect us so let's surprise them;
We'll drop the big one and pulverize them.
Now Asia's crowded
And Europe's too old.
Africa's far too hot,
And Canada's too cold.
And South America stole our name.
Let's drop the big one; there'll be no one left to blame us.
Bridge:
We'll save Australia;
Don't wanna hurt no kangaroo.
We'll build an all-American amusement park there;
They've got surfing, too.
Well, boom goes London,
And boom Paris.
More room for you
And more room for me.
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town.
Oh, how peaceful it'll be;
We'll set everybody free;
You'll have Japanese kimonos, baby,
There'll be Italian shoes for me.
They all hate us anyhow,
So let's drop the big one now.
Let's drop the big one now.
Considering the antics and possibilities of Giuliani is like watching a rerun of Ralph Cifaretto's stint at the Bada-Bing.
I´ve posted this link a few months ago already. I think it´s worth being posted again.
Meet the people you will kill next:
http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=9161934809152225169
Rageh Omar gives an insight of life inside Iran (BBC production).
So, any reporters up there ready to pick up on the challenge?
No, that's the wrong tactic to take entirely.
Don't try to push the question, have staffers dodge it for 6 weeks, only to have Giuliani dodge it for another 8, that will burn up too much time and only allow his staff to get out ahead of it.
Just come right out and say it: Giuliani is in favor of an unprovoked preemptive attack against Iran.
Get that meme out into the media and let him fight to deny it.
Hell, you might even get lucky and force him to fire Norm from his staff.
I don't think that starting to attack Iran is a good decision, because how do they want to attack another country if we are losing the war in Iraq? Instead of wasting money in things that are unneeded like the war, they should start caring more of people living in poverty and giving money to schools. The war in Iraq is enough!!!
WE SHOULD END IT AS SOON AS POSIBLE.
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