Sinking ship to lose more rats
By Steve Benen Wednesday Aug 15, 2007 9:21pmTony Snow told conservative media personality Hugh Hewitt that he’ll be stepping down in the not-too-distant future — and he won’t be alone.
HEWITT: Are there any other resignations upcoming, Tony Snow?
SNOW: I think that probably…as Josh said the other day, he thinks there are probably a couple coming up in the next month or so. […]
HEWITT: Your intention to go the distance, Tony Snow?
SNOW: No, I’m not going to be…I’ve already made it clear I’m not going to be able to go the distance, but that’s primarily for financial reasons. I’ve told people when my money runs out, then I’ve got to go.
It’s worth noting, by the way, that Tony Snow feels compelled to leave his White House job, which pays him $168,000 with a sweet benefits package, because he’s running out of money. If a guy can’t get by on $168,000, the economy can’t be that good.
Looking at the big picture, however, it’s worth noting that it is not at all unusual for a White House to undergo major staffing changes shortly before the end of a second term, but the Bush gang is hemorrhaging staff with about 15 months to go.
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Could be medical expenses are eating up his salary.. ironic
There are so many to choose from. Anyone care to make a guess who else will be leaving the Bush administration?
Bush-n- Cheney all alone....
When he runs out of money? This is what I don't understand. None of them can tell the truth! NONE OF THEM! It's probably for health reasons. All that lying is stressful and it's probably taking a toll on him. Why can't he just say that? Nobody would think less of him.. The guy has cancer!
I'm surprised ANYONE is left there. Bush is a total pariah. The French Presidents wife showed intelligence in not going to the hot-dog lunch.
An irresponsible Republican. Set aside what an appalling statement it is that he's leaving because of money.
He worked for FOX News for how many years? How many millions did he make each year at FOX? Two million a year or so?
More? If he hasn't set money aside and provided for himself and family. I say he go watch SICKO and fight for health care.
Snow has health coverage up the yazzoo. That can't be what eating his finances. Maybe he put all his money into big lenders.
chimpy and darth need to follow suit.
I guess snow has finally wised up, lying is bad for ones health.
OT -- looks like gonzo will be next, they just got the fbi notes, and it said gonzo was talking to Ashcroft about wiretapping. NO shit sherlock.
168,000 is peanuts in the DC metro area
Fox probably made him an offer he can't refuse. Now that their empire is showing the strain, they need a man of his "credentials" to return.
Good riddance.
Now what tool will step up for the lamest of lame duck gigs?
But the supply of rats is neverending...
Snow, I'm sorry you have cancer, but because of your miserable allegiance to that punk in the White House, just shut up and leave now.
maybe snow should have met tim donaghy.
artMonster @ 1:
Actually that was exactly what I was thinking.. I am not sure what to think of Tony Snowjob, I have a great amount of respect for anyone who goes on doing a job while they are suffering from the effects of cancer. He obviously believes in the need to have a mouthpiece lying for the administration... I think Tony is a case of a man being sincere.. but sincerly wrong (headed??) (Mouthed??)
There are much nicer people out there with cancer. There are people who would be thrilled with 168,000 that have cancer.
I heard him say he is getting the best care possible at Georgetown.
The lady in the nursing home with my mom had to make a choice per medicare. She could either have her cancer treated or her broken hips replaced..but not both.
So, fuck that liar Tony Snow.
No pity from this boy.
jack jett
Guys, come on! Would you be able to do this job? Constant and elaborate lies repeated constantly takes a toll on one's vocal cords don't you know? It's easy to type, but imagine having to say these things!
I have to say ..That I expected him to relapse....no one can lie and mislead for this admin w/o getting seriously ill...either physically or mentally....after all...their all nuts.
Indeed! this is great...at this rate (of attrition) ....pretty soon there will be hardly anyone left supporting the chimpster exept, lets see....
Halliburton
Oil&Energy Industrial complex
Pharma Industry
Military Industrial Complex
Federal Reserve Corporation
Homeland Security
yup.....hardly anyone left on Chimpie's team
.....tides a' turnin
.....Look out....... democracy is "a'comin"!!!!
.....I can almost see the light at the end of the tunnel!
the future looks bright! ......wheres my sunglasses?....
Most Americans get by their entire lives without making $168K a year ... these people are clueless. To listen to him, you'd think the Snowjob is a nearly a pauper.
baby jesus can't make it to the end of term either
even baby jesus will resign leaving GW all alone with his empty mind
does he mean when the COUNTRY runs out of money?!
Tony Snow @ 16:
Gosh Andy . . . I don't think I coulds do that and not get plum sick in my stomach
abarts @ 21:
I think you meant when the COUNTRY stops printing money?
SFnomad @ 19:
And in a few years, 168K will be the cutoff for the poverty line . . . . listen to those printing presses humming . . . . wonder why the market went up 300 the last couple minutes of trading today . . . . someone is trying to keep the ship from sinking but they're just making the whole bigger.
Linking this story with the one that follows it, I would feel less sad if the suicides were taking place among the staff at the WH rather than with our personnel in Iraq. How tragic the whole situation must be that these young men and women see suicide as the only way out for them. How horrible for their families. These are the ones all of us should feel sorry for, not for WH staff who chose to work for this administration in the first place.
trixr4kids @ 4:
Indeed. If its for health reasons no one's going to bat an eyelash - you've got to take care of your body.
"Run out of money" my foot though. My family barely gets by on 35k a year - somehow we manage it, its tough, stressful, and our belts are only slightly looser than the tightest notch, but we make it. If you can't make it on 168k a year...
Well I have a hard time believing that quite frankly. I suppose its entirely possible its medical bills, which indeed would be quite ironic - but I'm fairly sure as press secretary he's had excellent insurance. I'd have a hard time believing he wouldn't - plus he has people to pull strings for him all over the place; something the average American doesn't.
Ari Fleisher...Scott McClellen...Dana Perino....Tony Snow...
These are soulless people with no conscience. They only care about protecing the interest of others no matter how lawless or odious their actions may be. I say when war crimes indictments are brought against Bush, Cheney, Rice, Powell, Rumsfield, Perle, Armitage, Wolfowitz, et al that those four mouthpieces for the administration be included.
Sounds like Jenna will be leaving the Bush administration soon -- wondering how Not Jenna will manage on her own?
Lest we forget: Snow's health insurance has been for by the U.S. taxpayer since he signed on with the Boy King.
I hear that Satan himself may be stepping down too. He is sick of getting shown-up as a piker by Deadeye Dick Cheney.
-GSD
E Ryno @ 24:
Dont worry....We will just get new money....
THE AMERO!!!!
kinda like the old dollar(made by the same people) fed reserve(whoever they are)
we will share this common currency with mexico and canada
.....and THE FED is probably printing (a bunch of) those right now.
.....it will be the perfect replacement for our worn out worthless (over printed and circulated) federal reserve corporation dollar
Yeah, well, as I've said many times in the past, the chickens are deserting the sinking ship and the rats are coming home to roost. Maybe Mr. Snow just want to spend more time with his tar babies.
Here's the rumoured short list of Press Sec. replacements for Snow:
1] Rush Limbaugh
2] Michael Savage
3] General Petraeus
4] Bruce Willis
5] Joe Lieberman
Tony Snow is a lying piece of trash. No doubt (And a not very good one at that, considering how many times he's gotten caught and pummelled for it). But he’s a piece of trash who just had cancer, so the financial reason may actually be legit.
Of course, the instant and obvious distrust directed towards him and the Bush/neocon admin shows how much damage they’ve done. They’ve lied so much about so many different things that they are suspect about even the most simple of subjects.
Bush and the neocons have done great damage to the relationship between the Presidency and U.S. citizens. We can only hope that the next President is wise enough to see this and visionary enough to see how to fix it.
I love CREW. Even if it took 3 years for the government to finally slap some Obama smearers on the wrist, it never would have happened without CREW. Fortunately Obama can fend for himself and crushed in that election despite all the Republican dirty tricks. Don't count Obama out of this. He is formidable and good.
http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29934
theWalrus @ 33:
Read up. Petraeus isn't even going to be allowed to speak in public for his upcoming September "Iraq evaluation." The WH is going to write the report, WH flacks are going to present it to Congress, and Petraeus is going to give a close-door update to just a couple members of Congress.
theWalrus@33: Number three should be Ted Nugent
theWalrus @ 33:
I think Bruce Willis has (wised up) a little
rumor has it that he was (heard) saying
"the people who killed Kennedy are still in power"
dont know for sure though.
theWalrus @ 33:
#6 Sean Hannity....oh yeah.....actually I think he would take the #3 spot
Read up. Petraeus isn’t even going to be allowed to speak in public for his upcoming September “Iraq evaluation.” The WH is going to write the report, WH flacks are going to present it to Congress, and Petraeus is going to give a close-door update to just a couple members of Congress.
That makes him PERFECT for the job!
(Yes, I'm fully aware if this latest Bush scam. I hope it gets play from the MSM...and apparently the WH has given in and will allow the General to testify in public..)
artMonster @ 1:
To all the conservative s@#!heads who come on to this site blathering about "free market health care solutions"... ever price out the latest greatest cancer drugs?
Start with Avastatin, the new wonder drug for breast cancer... $100,000 per year and a minimum requirement of two years of therapy.
Between the years 1980 and 2004, the most profitable industry in the US was the Pharmaceutical industry. In 2004 it was surpassed by big oil. Also, between the years 1980 and 2004... medical bankruptcies increased by 2200 %. Do you think its a coincidence?
#6 Sean Hannity….oh yeah…..actually I think he would take the #3 spot
OK. O've revised the list:
1] Rush Limbaugh
2] Joe Lieberman
3] Sean Hannity
4] Laurita Doan
5] Bill O'Reilly (he would just tell all the press to "Shut up!")
replacement? Sean Hannity for the win!
I nominate Bob Murray, the owner of that mine in Utah. He makes Saddam's old communications guy look trustworthy.
By the way, it sounds like more folks may have died in that same mine tonight. Things look bad right now.
I nominate Ted Nugent for Secretary of Wanton Douchebaggery.
-GSD
I'm sure Snow will maintain his med benefits after he's gone...unlike the working class who get their jobs outsourced or are forced into early retirement because of a disability....hell he'll probably get workmans comp.
Tony Snow is so used to telling lies on the job, that telling lies about his job is second nature.
Replacement? I hear Harriet Miers is available. :)
theWalrus @ 42:
Personally, I'd like to see them hire Steven Colbert.
This worthless puke gets $168,000 for spewing the GOP party propaganda? Probably for part-time work, too. I don't want to have to pay him diddly squat to have to listen to his partisan lies about me and my party, let alone $168,000.
The really sad thing about the roaring single digits of this century is that our leaders are not just clueless and lazy like the Republicans in the Roaring 20s before the Great Depression. There is an element of deceit. They are doing so much damage in so many areas that will haunt us for decades or even more.
We know about the disaster in Iraq and our relations with the rest of the world. We now know about Bush's intentions the whole time of establishing a permanent base there and taking their oil.
We know about the health scandals, including how our former Surgeon General said this Administration squelched science in favor of obsequious comments about Bush. More deceit.
We know about global warming. The latest on that is just another example of an attempt to deceive: http://climateprogress.org/2007/08/16/must-read-from-hansen-stop-the-mad...
And boy do we know about the Murdoch and his billion dollar Fox media empire which enables all this deceit. Why just today it was reported they were caught doctoring up Wikipedia.
And let's not forget about outing Plame as political payback, the illegal spying, the torture and all the rest.
These crooked, deceitful Fox-Republicans officials and politicians are the slime of the Earth. Democrats need to put them exactly where they belong. No more free passes. These Republicans will do whatever they can get away with. If the Democrats don't show them there is a real price to pay for this kind of activity, it will happen again within the next few decades and the Nixon Bush cycle will continue. Rove is young yet.
Tony Snow looked up George Bush's family tree...
...and a chimpanzee $#!+ on ol' Tony's face.
I like the LIEberman suggestion to replace Snow.
Dennis Miller is next. Tony Snow is too smooth to adequately represent the feelings of the bunkered in pair in the White House. Dennis Miller will be perfect.
Actually, $168,000 for lying to the American public isn't bad.
There are some people in the US government paid to seek the truth (though it's hard to believe) and they propably make half that.
Huh?
There are complexities in every family in America," Giuliani said calmly and quietly. "The best thing I can say is kind of, 'Leave my family alone, just like I'll leave your family alone.'">
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=3487614
Is this the standard the right-wingers applied to Bill and Hillary's relationship. I don't think so. The funny thing about the Fox-Republican officials and politicians (fops) is that they are so serious about their double standard. As if they really believe it! They are hypocrites. Hypocrites. Hypocrites. And no amount of denial will change it. They need to get up off their high horse and out of Washington. Or we will escort them.
I will take a politician who gets a BJ on the side any day over this incompetent bunch of crooked, hypocritical, cheating, disloyal fops.
xoites defends Constitution @ 54:
I think it will be that woman, can't remember her name, that Tweety got all gaga about.
Tony needs to go home and be with his family. He is a sick man. He needs to heal thyself. He is also finding out that the health care industry is screwing him up the wazoo.
xoites defends Constitution @ 54:
Sorry X I have to disagree w/you......Miller uses words that are too big for the Preznit to understand.
milquetoast @ 18:
You forgot the courts
i won't be awake for the open thread tonight but i thought you should know that your government is trying to ship all the innocent detainees in Gitmo to Canada
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/08/16/detainees-canada.html
JD21 @ 51:
Lets not forget the Pharma ind and the FDA pushing all those drugs not yet tested thoroughly resulting in increased heart attacks and the like....just look at some of the sinus meds....you may experience a slight headache or a minor cerebral hemorrhage but no worries....you've lost your med benefits
What a whore. No other way to say it.
I seriously doubt Tony has any 'copay' with his insurance.
How about that new Playboy photo shootThe Girls of the White House and DOJ.It sounds hot.
Normally one would expect an extensive bullshit detox would be required for any Whitehouse Meat Puppet (as per the Daily Show) but Tony Snow worked for years as a Murdoch Meat Puppet. He is absolutely immune from bullshit although,at all times, a carrier. I suspect the financial crap is merely a better cover than the typical "more time with the family" story. It will allow him to pull the lever and eject at any time despite the supposed september deadline for resignation.
1. I apologize. I thought they said Tony snow was a cancer
2.Tony is a Conservative. He would never except an entitlement like health care. So he could be broke.
3. 50% of the people in DC live on about 10,000 a year.
4. He is a pathological liar. So who knows.
5. These rats abandoning ship smacks of Karl Rove strategy.
I don't want to be too mean to Snow by calling him a "rat". He seemed to actually be willing to take the heat a lot more than Fleischer. And he did his job, while dealing with low polls and cancer. I feel sorry that he had such bad luck, when he appeared to be one of the few "Faux" News "journalists" who didn't resort to race-baiting or liberal-bashing to get his point across. (Of course, I haven't seen or heard any of his comments, but he seemed more civil than his counterparts, anyway.)
"It’s worth noting, by the way, that Tony Snow feels compelled to leave his White House job, which pays him $168,000 with a sweet benefits package, because he’s running out of money. If a guy can’t get by on $168,000, the economy can’t be that good."
Read Strapped. You'd be surprised how little that goes in today's economy. http://www.amazon.com/Strapped-Americas-30-Somethings-Cant-Ahead/dp/1400...
these repubs complain about trying to live on 168k then tell us we need "entitlement reform"
I'm not surprised Snowjob is running out of money. It takes a lot of money to feed the press. Have you checked the price of Elephant dung these days?
milquetoast @ 31:
Watch for the military to interject itself into the "WAR ON DRUGS" as it becomes clear that MARIJUANA is the greatest evil since phosphorus weapons or depleted uranium or anthrax produced at Fort Diedrich
In other news Jenna Bush is engaged. I'll be surprised if Jenna is able to put down the six pack and cocaine straw long enough to get hitched. I hope for her fiance's sake they never get into an argument or it could wind up being like mother http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/e1698.htm like daughter for him.
No sympathy or empathy from me for this lying piece of trash. Just imagine how many other people with cancer would be receiving better health care if it wasn't for the free market worshiping ideology of the GOP that this guy helps promote and retain in power. Most people earn less than 60,000 per year doing HONEST jobs. This spoiled brat can't leave fast enough for me. Good riddance to bad rubbish and don't let the door hit you in the ass. We've had enough of you Republican liars to last a lifetime.
Excuse me, AJFan, but your post is off topic. Site monitor?
My wife died of colon cancer 3 months ago, after battling for 3-1/2 years. He's not leaving for financial reasons, trust me.
> Excuse me, AJFan, but your post is off topic. Site monitor?
"Jane you say it's all over
For you and me babe" - Starship
"Jane you're playin' a game
Of hide and go seek
Jane you're playin' for fun
But I play for keeps, yes I do"
josealman, we should take it over to the LNMC as I just posted Jane over there. She grew up in an Indiana town ... (I think I'm quoting Petty)
So its CUT AND RUN for Tony Snow..............!
The money ran out ? Is that why Haliburton moved its corporate HQ to Dubai from the USA ?
So what was it Tony, Did you lie for the President because you believed in him as you always spoke of (applied for job) on your media shows. Or is it like you say now that the money dried up ?
I don't wish you no harm tony, But spins and lies aren't that different on the recieving end of them. But after all you did get you medical paid for at the Government trough now didn't you Tony.!!!!!...????
I think he stayed for medical BENEFITS only and now he is moving into the HOSPICE system, he doesn't really need them anymore.
Tony is getting ready to die.
I think when he saw how HORRIFYING poor little Tammi Faye looked on Larry King... it changed his mind about allowing himself to deteriorate like that ON CAMERA. HE IS VEIN YOU KNOW.
It is a horrifying way to die. And it couldn't happen to a better candidate.
Snow has metastatic cancer. He is leaving because the chemo is kicking his butt and he has a 10% 5 year survival. He needs to spend time with his kids. Really unlike the other folks who have said this - he really needs to spend time with his kids. Sad.
artMonster @ 1:
Actually as a WH staffer I believe he currently has access to FREE medical care with no or extremely low co-pays. I don't think that's the problem. The problem is that $168,000 a year looks like chump change to a news correspondent. And that's a problem both for the U.S. economy, which undervalues work (currently Tony Snow is worth three or possibly even four regular middle-class Americans), and the news business, which must vastly overpay loudmouth pundits like Snow.
How much was he making as a shill for faux?
> How much was he making as a shill for faux?
I wouldn't call it "much". But just as he's doing for the lousy exuse of a President, he was doing for faux. Creating the "Grand Illusion".
Hi. I'm passing around a collection jar to help raise enough money to keep Tony Snow as Press Secretary. It's very important that he remain at the job he has performed so incredibly well at. Please help us reach our goal. We hope to raise $1M by the end of the year. I'm asking Conservatives and Liberals for help.
Please send money through paypal to mcp_inquiry@yahoo.com.
Wow. If $168,000 isn't enough for someone who probably gets free meals every day and a massive benefits/retirement plan, you'd think maybe he could understand how teachers who make $24,000 a year might be struggling.
I've got a suggestion: Since they're so into privatizing everything in the government, why not eliminate his position, skip a step and just let Fox News anchors handle the president's press conferences? They're already the best shills the president has, anyway.
So Snow Job is leaving.... I wonder if that weather bunny Dana is stepping in
or another FUX Noise hack is going to take his place. I guess lying everyday takes its toll.
> Please send money (to keep Tony Snow as Press Secretary) through paypal to mcp_inquiry@yahoo.com.
I just made a $168,000.00 donation. :-) Thanks for posting that info!!!!
168k is fucking peanuts. Most guys Snow's age and ed. level eat that much by breakfast.
You figure the average DC Power jockey's got two homes + a modest time-share/vacation home, a trophy wife and her upkeep, private school for the kids, (don't forget tutoring, soccer, ballet) plus all the cars, toys, etc...
168,000 will get you a pretty girl in a Kentucky trailer park You can buy a BMW but she'll have to work weekends.
To be fair, Snow's financial hardships may have to do with his recurring cancer.
But then again, working for the White House should have health care, right?
Just my thoughts.
Arch.
His benefits probably include free care from the WH medical team at Walter Reed. If you've got cancer like he does there's probably no better place to work.
Come on guys.....this guy is dying....perhps he neds to be with family....cut him some slack...
Hey whatever happened to the permanent Republican majority? After all, they hold the moral high ground, right?
"Mission accomplished! Fight them over there so you don't have to fight them here! As the Iraqis stand up, we stand down! The insurgency is in its death throes! We will be greeted as liberators! We're talking about a country that can finance it's own reconstruction, and soon! We know where the WMDs are located!"
etc, etc...
Why the hell isn't anyone listening anymore?
" It’s worth noting, by the way, that Tony Snow feels compelled to leave his White House job, which pays him $168,000 with a sweet benefits package, because he’s running out of money. If a guy can’t get by on $168,000, the economy can’t be that good."
Eventhough, I don't particularly like who Mr. Snow is representing (BushCo), I don't think that the above statement is FAIR. We often live relative to how much we make and what kind of lifestyle, living condition we are accustomed to. You have to consider, Mr. Snow probably has mortgage and a lifestyle comparative to an executive. Therefore, I can see and understand how $168,000 may be somewhat lower than what he is accustom to making before going into public service.
However, I suspect that the reason his resignation may not be completely true. Mr. Snow is undergoing health problem. And the kind of stress that is demanded of him to defend a run-away presidency perhaps can be too much for a frailed condition. Stress is not particularly any good for someone battling cancer.
I have watched him lately and his physic has become apparent that he is sick. I would think twice if I was him, whether it is spiritually condusive to defend a presidency that is tainted with so many scandals. I personally would not want to sacrifice my reputation to protect a failing administration that is clearly involved in numerous lies and crimes. I would politely exit; and "save face"?
Sweet FREAKIN Jesus people! The man is not well! Can you imagine anyone in Tony Snow's position ever worrying about money or health care? Get a bloody clue!
And he may be working for Satan himself, but at the very least he's been one of the few competent people in that administration from hell.
> ... he’s (Tony Snow) been one of the few competent people in that administration from hell.
Yes, He's the only one in that administration that is competent at lying. All the rest of them are just pretenders. Tony can at least lie without saying "I don't recall remembering that".
StanNote: When any Bush administration figure says "I don't remember", they're lying about their memory. Of course they remember, for if they didn't they wouldn't know what to not remember about. :-)
Perhaps there is a genuine concern that the permanent employment revolving door program for the GOP hacks and shills is downsizing, if not closing.
If the glory days of the GOP are over, that means that lobbying jobs, White House and Congressional staff jobs, and PAC positions will be harder to find for the foreseeable future.
Faux News can only afford to pay a limited number of kool-aid drinkers to read talking points.
If big business has seen the writing on the wall and is cutting back funding of all these neo-
nazicon think tanks, there will be an overabundance of ass-clowns for the jobs available. You can't blame business, they spent billions funding the GOP/neocon rise to power, and look what they got: freaks, fags and fuck-ups, and a stronger than ever Democratic party rising off the canvas to to kick ass and chew bubble gum.With the GOP moving into the status of a permanent minority or even a fringe 3rd party, it will not be that easy for the clueless and talentless to move back and forth from the private and the public sectors.
Nobody wants to rearrange the deck chairs while the ship sinks, so it's "Fuck the women and children, every man for himself!"
Okay, I am trying to understand this. $168,000.00 and great benefits, (I'm assuming medical?) and he is running out of money???? What could be taking his money that won't take it elsewhere? I doubt he is going to get better medical benefits anywhere else. Will Fox Noise pay him more than the 168,000.00 he is making now? What is causing Tony Snow's financial difficulties? The only thing I can think of that might not be covered by the government package would be legal fees. Has Tony lawyered up?
I've never heard anyone give this as a reason for leaving a very lucrative job before. I've heard better offer, it's just time to move on, want to spend time with the wife and kids, but NEVER "I'm running out of money"!
A little look back on the Bush.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IlE8yAmW3E&mode=related&search=
Snow looks to me to be showing the effects of chemo. I think this is really the problem, sadly.
WTF!?!?!?!? That steaming pile of Herman-Munster-looking piece of shit can't get by on $168,000/yr!? Fuck his cancer! HE NEEDS TO MEET HEAD ON WITH A FUCKING STEAM-ROLLER!!!!!!!!!!!
bbwar @ 92:
For him to put up a smokescreen regarding his reasons for leaving is just another stupid, pointless lie. Snow has chosen his bed. He is now compelled to lie in it. And his legacy will be that of a great big liar, and an enabler of some of the most brazen and insincere political demagoguery of the last 100 years.
And his final act on this earth will be to tell a big fat lie about why he's leaving. An insincere, meritless lie. But whatever. That's his choice.
How do we know he's telling the truth about this?
before you get too excited about snow leaving, there's a bottom line here: is he still in place today and is he still spewing the company lies, line? secondly, has bush or cheney been impeached? finally, is gonzo still in office??? almost forgot, was scooter "pardoned". there is no joy in mudville. we've been duped by those we felt would represent us.
If he can't scrape by on 168,000 + benefits per yr. than he is a piss poor money manager' living above his means. This is the same guy that spewed lies about how raising minimum wage would be harmful
here we go again, the liberal need to look at the positive, even where snow is concerned. he is so proficient at giving the company line and when he gives it the heartland believes. we need to remain focused, because of his support and expertise, the administration has been "allowed" to stay the course. he is the figurehead. even now that he is dying of cancer, he refuses to come clean. he does not turn on the hand that has fed him. i have no sympathy for him and will not "cut him a break." worry about him and his family? what about our future generations that will pay the price of the dishonesty of this administration. don't cry for me. cry for them. and quit being so damned liberal when it comes to justice.
At least Bush is finally delivering his initial promise of a smaller government
http://www.cato.org/dailys/12-12-00.html
but I doubt that he meant his grotesque ruse to play out the way it has.
Count me as one who feels badly whenever I see Tony Snow these days. I never thought he should've resumed his duties as PR man for BushCo in the first place, once his own cancer was diagnosed.
Was kinda wondering about that. He said something about his finances as I recall. Well it seems mighty stupid to quit your job if you are having financial trouble. Especially when that job pays $168k a year.
bernarda @ 99:
wow!
that rocked, bernarda
Hey, $168,000 dollars can't go very far anymore.
Medicinal marijuana is expensive as hell.
Tony Snow is a sick man literally not figuratively. He needs to take care of his health, not this president's image.
So much being a team player. "When the $$$ run out I am gone" How pathetic! If you are not winning your battle Tony that is one thing but to use money as the excuse. You are twisted!
E Ryno @ 22:
Exactly! And that $168,000 is per century, not per year.
For anyone used to earning millions per year, even a good six figure salary is a hardship. You've still got the monster mortgage payments on two or three homes, kids at private schools, etc... So I can see how money would play a factor.
Of course his health should be the bigger concern, the stress of that job must be huge. But still I can see how money would play a role.
Running outta money???? Yeah right! I know cancer is an expensive medical problem but come on now. He makes the big bucks, plus fabulous insurance. Yeah he probably made millions outside of the government but I am sure he has a fabulous retirement from both the news biz and government retirement. My step father had MS, and six or seven different kinds of cancers over a period of about 20 years. He used every medical resource available to him to keep him alive. He maybe was worth 6 million dollars while alive and it was still intack at the time of his death. So running outta money? Sorry Tony
Bit NOLA @ 10:
My bet's on that little cutie-pie, Barbie-doll-in-real-life Dana Perino... stupid as shit and a liar to boot! What a sad state of affairs.
mudshark @ 39:
Oh please. He's ALREADY on the job!
As for Snow, eh, he has health problems, he's not around all that much to begin with. I expect it. Look at it this way, He hasn't pissed us off as much as the last two press secretaries. That's probably why the name "Tony Snowjob" used in post #14 hasn't come up more. As far as these things go, he was probably the smartest decision made by this administration. Get a press secretary that is already a media personality. Perfect! Everything else we already knew about him, and by the time he came on the administration was already a mess, so he didn't even phase me.
sully18 @ 65:
Does that include Karen Hughes?
Tony Snow's colon cancer has returned. He's on high level chemotherapy. He doesn't have a very high survival chance. I'm surprised he can still function. I know this because I survived colon cancer. I keep hoping that some day he will come to the podium and tell the truth about the Bush administration.
Tony Snow is dying. His cancer has spread and is inoperable. Just look at pictures of him at the beginning of his tenure in the White House and now. He's lost a lot of weight, his color is terrible, his hair is thinning. I don't know why he took the job, or why he continued in it after he found out his cancer had returned and spread. Maybe, as someone has already said, he needs the benefits to carry on with his medical care.
What a horrible position to be in.
why beat up on a guy that is dying? maybe he needs to make money now because he won't be around very long.
you know docs have said he has a year or two at most.
makes sense he has to sock away cash for his wife and his children's future.
Snow is leaving because he is dying. He is looking progressively weaker and more frail each passing month. Getting kind of hard to hide it. This is just more of his typical dishonesty.
DickCheneyShotMeInTheFace @ 118:
Jean Schmidt?
DLJ @ 117:
Jon Lovitz
artMonster @ 1:
I'm sure it is medical expenses and the realization that he has to provide long-term for his young children. If he can make bigger bucks, he really should do it.
Ruthless People @ 72:
Jeez, could that drunken skank find a whiter, nerdier guy??? Man, he's quite a catch. Hold on tight Jenna, the other gals will be fighting for a piece of that stud.
Uh he can't survive on $168,000 per year? The white house execs are so in touch with reality for most Americans. This guy thinks $168,000 per year is the poverty level. What a bunch of rich, white elitists.
Tony Snow @ 16:
Many people have an alacrity with B.S. that is professional. There is a state of mind you need to hone in order to get up in front of people and disdainfully lie. You have to own your B.S. and work your mind so that you aren't the slightest bit concerned with the amount of doubt you're faced with. Snow has always been good at stuff like this and this is why he was made the press secretary. However that must be way too exhausting for what he's paid in the condition he's in. But surely he can handle it.
I just heard Keith Olbermann talk about how "likeable this clown Snow is. I wish him well with his treatments, but he's still just a lying, condenscending ass, just as he was at Fox.
Remember Snow's answer when the troop deaths in Iraq reached 2500? "It's just a number."
$168000 per year! Poor bastard should get a tax cut!
Most of you on this site are definitely going to hell.
So.
A couple of rats jump ship with utter impunity re their damage done to all the Rest of Us, and everyone cyber-side's just BlogoBuzzing like the very wish that all Heaven might open up and Holy Light descend upon all who remain in place is all that we need in order to save America besides lower gas prices at the pump.
My fellow Americans, NOTHING of that sort is indeed so. WE the PEOPLE have, as a nation, been so badly MSM media-driven, MSM media-addicted, MSM media-hypnotized, MSM/CIA/NSA/OSP/etc MSM-media-psyop'd (OK, I'll settle for "strongly deluded" with sooo many, many "believable" lies and "plausible" denials that all that abject krue of craven Imperial Corporate Executive traitors to the Constitution of the United States need do is throw a couple of figureheads to the "wolves" (with full severance packages and a heartfelt thankya' for a Bad Job Done Capably Enuf to Suit the Purpose.
Meantime, the on-board dance band (FOX, CNN, CBS, ABC, MSNBC etc) on this-here Titanic Ship of State is playing "Nearer my God to Thee" over and over like we should just let it catapult right over every wall of our common civic sense while we are fed poison and forced ever closer to Death's precipice by this pack of murdering clowns in silk suits.
Meanwhile, FEMA flacks have been training key mainstream telepreachers in how to stuff the twisty "All Government is of Ghawd" meme drawn (strained) from Romans 18 (KJV) down our collective throats for nearly an entire year, now, in the event that any (necessary and profitable, yes) martial law should be declared. BTW, did anyone else mention that US troops are now allowed to conduct military operations up to and including firing on civilians these days? It is indeed so; the old /posse/ /comitatus/ law has been nullified by Executive Order, too.
Um, people, ain't we got a little bit o' civic work left over, not yet even attempted? (Um, yes.)
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/video_popups/pop_vid_impeachment1-1.html
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/video_popups/pop_vid_impeachment1-2.html
Meat: The Honorable Steny Hoyer is the House Majority Leader. His job is to express the will of the People through his position as an elected Representative of We the People. Being House Majority Leader as well, he needs above all spineless others of his ilk to RE-LEARN how to apply the FIRST PRINCIPLE that he taught thirty-odd eighth-grade kids once, back before Nixon, 'way before Reagan/North/Negroponte.
Y'see, Mr. Hoyer taught us all the Constitutional basics of Civics and American Government while he was a $12K/annum "Little Guy" grade-school instructor back in Indiana. But he is a Big Guy now, and maybe has he forgotten all he taught us all? He seems to have forgotten how to place Constitution and the Rule of Law above the will of a manifest TYRANT of MONARCHY.
His office number is (202) 225-4131. Be polite, but do be firm. WE the PEOPLE do hereby DEMAND a BILL of IMPEACHMENT FORTHWITH. And as House Majority Leader, HE is MANDATED to PRODUCE IT FORTHWITH.
The Honorable Mr. James Clyburn is the House Majority Whip. Both John Conyers and Mr. Steny Hoyer should have placed bills of impeachment into Mr. Clyburn's sphere of attention long ago IMHO. But Mr. Clyburn has apparently been badly neglected on this point.
His job is to make certain that the non-trivial bills before the House are given their due prioritization and FULL Pah-tay support. He "Gets the Vote Out" for the item, in other words.
So one day on the phone, perplexed by the Great Kerfluffle (aka "Royal Scam") once more, I asked the Hoyer aide whether Mr. Hoyer had ever conferred with Mr Clyburn the House Majorrity Whip re impeachment. The answer was a guarded negative. I rang off, then keyed up the Conyers aide, who just handed me this most awesomely lame, "But we just don't have the votes to impeach!" - essentially the same thing. So I asked, "So where does the House Majority Whip, Mister Clyburn, fir into all this? Has anyone from your office conferred with Mr. Clyburn and flown a trial Impeachment Bill balloon or anything?"
After all, you and I all know that it is Mr. Clyburn's JOB to GET those votes.
"Sputter/gulp/humminahumminahummina" is how that went. I think I said something about the CONSENT of the GOVERNED before clicking off.
I think they all must think we have all been Made Foolish by too much Cyndi Lauper or sumpin'. Mr. Clyburn's office number is (202) 225-4965. Likewise, courtesy, respect, clear assertion of will and purpose are appropriate.
Nancy Pelosi is the Speaker of the House. Um, we all know what she is *s'pozed* to be doing. But she took it off the table maybe 23 milliseconds after she gave oath on the Bible to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic".
So it seems she might need a few prods to her conscience (has she one of those, yet?) as well, just to help her remember who she really is - an OATHBOUND HUMAN BEING, and not a Praetor nor an Imperial Patrrician. SHe needs to put The Great Medicine that is IMPEACHMENT back ON the table! And no calling it a "crisis! Crisis we got already for five years now, easily - but Pinocchio still wants All Sugar and No Medicine, even though the essential death of the American Republic is at the door..
Her office number is (202) 225-4965.
Bill Moyers and his esteemed distinguished guests cannot do it all alone. So: Ya' like tyranny? DO NOTHING; the cattle cars will be here as soon as suitable excuses and appropriately contrived "Terrorist Attacks" can be comfortably false-flagged into position and right down our throats. If, on the other hand, you like the idea of KEEPING our Constitutional Republic form of on-paper governance ALIVE at ALL, an old Funny-Hatted Injun of the Jeffersonian School of Thought is strongly suggesting DIRECT ACTION.
Start by picking up the phone and calling these people out to serve the Constitution, as is their oath-bound duty. Do NOT wait for the National Memorial Strike (9/11/007 is the date) to do this.
Increase the Peace. Reverse the Curse. Reject ALL Terror. Starting with the memetically transmitted viral terrorstorm that those Massive Kerfluffle Bastids from Moloch's Grave (yes, every assertion made herein is well documented; just Google and learn to THINK for YOURSELF) have media-driven like a stake into YOUR OWN heart and mind. RIGHT NOW.
A deluded mind is a terrible thing to behold. An unleashed mind is a terrible thing to waste in media-driven self-entertainment activities. TAKE ACTION NOW, I say!
You know you want to.
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