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countdown-maddow-craig.jpg On Countdown, Keith Olbermann talked with Air America Radio talk show host, Rachel Maddow about Republican Senator Larry Craig's presser, Mitt Romney throwing him under the bus (along with former President Bill Clinton) the laundry list of Republican sex scandals and the glaring hypocrisy oozing from the Republican Party. As for Craig's assertion that he's not gay:

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Olbermann: "...What is the psychology and what are the political psychologies of pulling a Gary Hart, I double dare you,against the media?"

Maddow: "...This is the exact wrong strategy to take if you really do want to try to weather this as a storm. I mean, if I were the um, gay-scandal-getting-out-of-advice-incorporated, if I were trying to give him some advice on how to get out of this, I would say do anything except flat out deny that you were ever-ever gay and have ever done anything like this because all it takes is one incident among the so many of them that have been alleged against Larry Craig, all it takes is for one of them to be proven and he's absolutely, positively sunk."

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Yellow Elephant Safari's picture

IMPEACH

ysbaddaden's picture

I prefer Assholier than thou.

JudyLou's picture

How can you prove an incident--by the blue dress?

Bit NOLA's picture

Unless there's a blue dress involved, the media will accept nothing as proof.
Larry can lie till his peter falls off, not that it'll do him any good.

How do you prove a bj once the semen's sailed?

Samson-'s picture

it was GOP-code during the larry 'wide stance' craig spin show yesterday when he 'skillfully' placed the blame for all of troubles on the idaho statesmen.

effin pathetic. although, i am loving his slow political death.

dirty, naughty larry, bwahahaahaaha!

Weaseldog's picture

Why doesn't Mitt get behind him and pump him up?

Boring Scott's picture

He's not gay.
He's just a wide squatter.

Frankly after saying that out loud, "gay" sounds better.

myiq2xu's picture

The happiest guy in America has got to Alberto Gonzales. Larry Craig knocked him right out of the news.

NanaT's picture

Boring Scott -

Thanks for the laugh of the day!

Vic's picture

Hypocrisy is a GOP requirement, they can't live without it.

Gay?? It depends on what the meaning of gay is!!

He's gay and who cares?? The GOP goon sqad thats who. The rest of the world only cares about the blatant hypocrisy.

myiq2xu's picture

Bit NOLA @ 4:

Unless there's a blue dress involved, the media will accept nothing as proof.
Larry can lie till his peter falls off, not that it'll do him any good.

How do you prove a bj once the semen's sailed?

Breathylizer?

Old Billy's picture

all it takes is for one of them to be proven and he’s absolutely, positively sunk

Unfortunately, there is "prove" and then there is "proven to the Republican base." These people have remarkable capacities for self-delusion.

By the way, I love Dr. Rachel Maddow

Bit NOLA's picture

Anybody trademarked "Wide Stance" yet? In a fully commercial world, there's money in profilerating perversion.

Ask any republican.

Fascist States of America's picture

Contessa Brewer on MSNBC just coined a new title for a tv show

"To Catch a Senator"

Strawberry's picture

Ya know, if you've got to call a press conference and announce that you're not gay, never have been gay, it's all over, just come out and be fabulous.

wlgriffi's picture

JudyLou @ 3:

How can you prove an incident--by the blue dress?

Where is Linda Tripp when you need her?

Patriot Actor's picture

A wide stance and water closet tap dancer.....

but a very narrow stance on lifestyle choices....

Dr. Acula's picture

Strawberry @ 15:

Ya know, if you've got to call a press conference and announce that you're not gay, never have been gay, it's all over, just come out and be fabulous.

True!

And, doesn't EVERY innocent person plead guilty to a lesser charge to make it "go away"?

Truth IS stranger than fiction!!!!!!!!!

A Richard Head's picture

The best thing I've heard regarding Sen. Craigs mess came form the Chatolic Charities spokesperson on Hardball yesterday. He said when his group heard of another sex scandal in Washington, the first thing one of his co-workers asked was "what Republican was it this time". That my friends is priceless. You know, the party of turd blossoms is just about finished.

It seems that the Religious groups aren't as blind as we thought, or at least not this group. When the neo-cons automatically assume Republicans are involved, it's not far from over.

Samson-'s picture

Fascist States of America @ 14:

Contessa Brewer on MSNBC just coined a new title for a tv show

"To Catch a Senator"

bwahaahaa, awsome...

A Richard Head's picture

Catholic damnit. I'm a shitty speller sorry.

myiq2xu's picture

Jeebus. Fucker Carlson and Joe Scarboring also invoked Clinton while talking about Craig.

Can we have at least one GOP scandal where Slick Willie doesn't come up? He's been gone for 7 years now, so no more "It's Clinton's fault" or "Clinton did it too."

Bit NOLA's picture

Speaking of gay episodes in restrooms...

Oh Tucker!

Tucker Carlson!

Why don't you tell us that you're not gay, but that you have bashed a gay in a stall, after having a friend help you. How went straight for his joint in the course of your assault.

(He said so last night while in deep discussion with Joe Scarborough.)

edgar's picture

It's a terrible thing to witness a man being forcibly dragged, kicking and screaming, from the closet. I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning.

neil's picture

Boring Scott @ 7:

He's not gay.
He's just a wide squatter.

Frankly after saying that out loud, "gay" sounds better.

He's not gay....

Bit NOLA's picture

Tucker in his manly glory:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200708290003?f=h_top

Paw Paw Negro Blowtorch's picture

Where's Larry Flynt in all of this? Wasn't he going to out some large number of republican finks? Where's the list Larry?

ysbaddaden's picture

I always thought a funny Injun name was Squanto.

Is that the gay brother of Tonto?

Dr. Matt's picture

neil @ 25:

Boring Scott @ 7:

He's not gay.
He's just a wide squatter.

Frankly after saying that out loud, "gay" sounds better.

He's not gay....

He's not gay, he's a raging bisexual.

Torbrund Masquith's picture

RepubSpeak

1. Toe Tapping = Happy with lots-o-rhythm.
2. Foot pressing = Wide Stance (lot-o-shit-cumin' outta big ass hole.)
3. Palm up, back and forth motion three times under partition = Trying to pick up toilet paper with knuckles make sticky with pre-ejaculate, but forgot whether floor was up or down, so just decided to feel partition bottom for dried buggers with wrist.

I'm with "Strawberry," just come out and be fab already. So what if you are as ugly as sin and won't have the boys lining up for you, like sexy/dorky McGreevey. You'll have some pieces to pick up, and go forth with your life with honesty.

paranoia's picture

Nah, let em keep bringing up that Clinton had sex with the opposite gender, and that he did not offer to pay her for it. Nor was he arrested for that act.

Its Hillary issue to deal with and all the republican that keep bringing up the issue are inferring a private matter between Hillary and her husband.

Rube Goldberg's picture

The "lawwy" headline isn't what I would have expected from C&L. It's a cheap shot based on a junk-science stereotype. So-called effeminate speech or effeminate traits are not a gay thing. It's a people thing.

Logan Murphy, if that was your headline to the story (and the one behind it), you really ought to be ashamed. I'd have expected that kind of crap from bullyboy wingnuts like Rush.

Dr. Matt's picture

Rube Goldberg @ 33:

The "lawwy" headline isn't what I would have expected from C&L. It's a cheap shot based on a junk-science stereotype. So-called effeminate speech or effeminate traits are not a gay thing. It's a people thing.

Logan Murphy, if that was your headline to the story (and the one behind it), you really ought to be ashamed. I'd have expected that kind of crap from bullyboy wingnuts like Rush.

Take a deep breath and read it again....it reads "Lavvy" not Lawwy". Lavvy = short for lavatory. You owe Logan apology for your rant.

Carmikl's picture

Isn't it about time for him to go into rehab and find Jesus? It seems like the only place these guys can find Jesus is in jail or rehab.

Now I know there's a follow up line that would fit here, but I'm not gonna go there.

Dan's picture

I believe it's LAVVY - as in 'lavatory'...

and echoing a previous poster... I, too, love Rachel Maddow...

Tim's picture

"Let me be perfectly queer" ...

BaScOmBe's picture

he's not gay and neither are the men he chases.

Dr. Matt's picture

Lavvy Larry has quite the past when it comes to his sexuality. In his case, where there is smoke, there is indeed fire:

Craig is married with three adopted children, but as early as 1982 the mainstream media reported claims that he had had sex with men. In 1982, Craig appeared on NBC News to deny rumors about cocaine use and sex with male teenage congressional pages (the next year, the 1983 Congressional page sex scandal broke, but Craig was not implicated).[23]

In October 2006, gay activist blogger Mike Rogers, who has earned a controversial reputation for outing political conservatives, alleged on his blog that Craig was gay. Craig called the claim "completely ridiculous."[24]

On August 28, 2007 the Idaho Statesman published a series of allegations about Craig's sexual activities, and his responses to them, that it had withheld until his conviction came to light:

* A college student who was considering pledging at Craig's fraternity at the University of Idaho in 1967 told the Statesman that Craig led the student to his bedroom and "made what the man said he took to be an invitation to sex." Craig responded: "I don't hit on any men."[25]

* A gay man told the Statesman that in November 1994, Craig cruised him at the REI store in Boise, following him around the store for half an hour. Craig responded: "I'm not gay, and I don't cruise, and I don't hit on men. I have no idea how he drew that conclusion. A smile? Here is one thing I do out in public: I make eye contact, I smile at people, they recognize me, they say, ‘Oh, hi, Senator.' Or, ‘Do I know you?' I've been in this business 27 years in the public eye here. I don't go around anywhere hitting on men, and by God, if I did, I wouldn't do it in Boise, Idaho! Jiminy!"[26]

* A professional 40-year-old man with close ties to Republican officials "reported having oral sex with Craig at Washington's Union Station, probably in 2004." Craig responded: "I am not gay and I have never been in a restroom in Union Station having sex with anybody."[27]

paranoia's picture

Yes, Clinton did the exact same thing, he advocated against different gender sex, and after being caught having sex with the opposite sex, he came out vocally and stated that he was not straight, and have never been straight, and made a mistake for taking a rap that he was once accuse of being straight. He also offer to pay the woman to have sex with him.

I remember all this like a shrewd rightwinger on how this all happen, just as Scarborough recalled.

Mary Ellis's picture

Keeping your child safe. Stress to your child that he or she should feel comfortable telling you anything, especially if it involves a Republican. Teach your children what a Republican stands for. They should know that while Republicans claim to be moral, just the opposite is the case. Never leave children unattended near Republicans hangouts, such as a gay public bathroom. Notice when a Republican shows one or all of your children a great deal of attention or begins giving them gifts. Block out any bad channels late at night on your TV such as Fox News.

Dr. Matt's picture

Mary Ellis @ 41:

Keeping your child safe. Stress to your child that he or she should feel comfortable telling you anything, especially if it involves a Republican. Teach your children what a Republican stands for. They should know that while Republicans claim to be moral, just the opposite is the case. Never leave children unattended near Republicans hangouts, such as a gay public bathroom. Notice when a Republican shows one or all of your children a great deal of attention or begins giving them gifts. Block out any bad channels late at night on your TV such as Fox News.

Mary, your proposal is brilliant, from an earlier thread, for a national pervert database to inform citizens when a reich-winger moves to your neighborhood.

jr's picture

Rachel was great again in this segment.

DC Madman's picture

Do you not know GOP word parsing? He can honestly say he's not gay because he's actually bi-sexual. Until he's questioned about his bi-sexuality he's off the hook.

Dr. Acula's picture

myiq2xu @ 22:

Jeebus. Fucker Carlson and Joe Scarboring also invoked Clinton while talking about Craig.

Can we have at least one GOP scandal where Slick Willie doesn't come up? He's been gone for 7 years now, so no more "It's Clinton's fault" or "Clinton did it too."

These asshats can't grasp the fact that it's only republics who are caught in these gay scandals.

Rube Goldberg's picture

On "lavvy": My apology. I did misread it.

paranoia's picture

Carlson Tucker had a confrontation with a man who solicit for sex with him in the bathroom? and he can't bring his children to the public bathroom? Anyone catch that? Gay people means danger to the children?

and yet Tucker claims to be "the least anti-gay right-winger you'll ever meet".

"I can't bring my son to the men's room at the park where he plays soccer because of all these creepy guys hanging around in there. I actually think it's a problem. I'm sorry."

"I went back with someone I knew and grabbed the guy by the -- you know, and grabbed him, and -- and --Hit him against the stall with his head, actually!

I don't know where to begin dissecting this story.

Paul's picture

Romney trying to outbigot the religious bigots is hilarious. In trying to appeal to those guys he's missing the point that the religious bigots will never vote for him because they consider his faith to be blasphemous and heretical. All he's doing is adding shame upon shame for himself as he compromises his professed principles in order to pursue his ambitions. That ought to comfort him after he's lost his bid. No, belay that. He's also dishonest, so he would never admit such a thing to himself.

paranoia's picture

grabbed the guy by the — you know, and grabbed him, and — and

grab the guy by the balls?
Why the stutter Tucker? Do a man balls make you nervous?

dennis's picture

Dr. Acula @ 45:

myiq2xu @ 22:

Jeebus. Fucker Carlson and Joe Scarboring also invoked Clinton while talking about Craig.

Can we have at least one GOP scandal where Slick Willie doesn't come up? He's been gone for 7 years now, so no more "It's Clinton's fault" or "Clinton did it too."

These asshats can't grasp the fact that it's only republics who are caught in these gay scandals.

Jim McGreevey, Gerry Studds???

Dr. Acula's picture

who's IN and who's OUT (of the closet that is):

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/54252/

Arroyo's picture

Gay People have to be damned happy that Larry is not gay.

I know I'm angry that he's insisting that he's normal.

Dr. Acula's picture

Doctors take the Hypocratic oath.
Republics take the hypocrite oath.

grumpyoldman's picture

As in so many areas of life, The Big Lebowski said it best:

"SEE WHAT HAPPENS, LARRY? SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FUCK A STRANGER IN THE ASS?"

Rhl's picture

It's embarrassing that a person's sexuality is still such an important topic in this country. And, of course, we have the Republican Party to thank for that. Karma is a bitch Senator Craig.

sillyrabbit's picture

Wellll, does the guy who told the Idaho Statesman about sucking Craig's cock in a Union Station bathroom count as proof?

Jon's picture

What should be even a bigger story is that we have a closeted hypocrite homosexual in the whitehouse….

Take a look at these pics
http://mysite.verizon.net/myk1.....nhohor.jpg

Leftwestwing's picture

It's not the deed that gets you. It's the LIE...

And the good Dr. is looking very very good once again. There is nothing sexier than a attractive, confident, Intelligent woman. It's only a matter of time before she gets her own spot on camera.

Leftwestwing's picture

Although in Larry's case, its both.

myiq2xu's picture

dennis @ 50:

Dr. Acula @ 45:

myiq2xu @ 22:

Jeebus. Fucker Carlson and Joe Scarboring also invoked Clinton while talking about Craig.

Can we have at least one GOP scandal where Slick Willie doesn't come up? He's been gone for 7 years now, so no more "It's Clinton's fault" or "Clinton did it too."

These asshats can't grasp the fact that it's only republics who are caught in these gay scandals.

Jim McGreevey, Gerry Studds???

Just two Democrats, in 2004 and 1973 respectively?

How many gay Gopers just this month? THREE!

Chris's picture

Of course Craig will lie. Its impossible for a republican to tell the truth. They can't help it. Its genetic. The Republican gene is also the lie gene.

Groucho's picture

Pathetic as it is, it also borders on the slapstick. "Wide stance," indeed.

And who can resist the old quotation taken out of context? Not me.

"Unfortunately, if we think of the United States as a big airport, we have a very serious problem."

Larry Craig,
March 31, 2005
http://craig.senate.gov/releases/ed033105a.cfm

Groucho's picture

Actually, maybe the Senator could re-enact the "wide stance" the way that Rosemary Woods re-enacted the 18-minute gap in Nixon tapes.

That would be slapstick.

Anonymouse's picture

Personally, I could care less about his sexuality, and the non-hypocritical are exceptionally rare in the general population (self included), much less the major parties. What I do find interesting, is how he's being eaten alive by his own party. Sad.

Mark's picture

Boy, I really like Rachel Maddow. She seems to make perfectly logical sense. Oh, by the way, she is cute too. I had to say that.

bubba's picture

At least Clinton could close a deal. Foley and Craig are like the keystone cops of frustrated homosexual urges. Its ABC, always be closing, not always be clueless.

Daisy Zimmerly's picture

I think the Senator is going to get a lot of blowback out of this.

Eric's picture

Here is a link to the comments section of a newspaper from Joplin, Mo. I think it pretty damn funny.
http://www.joplinglobe.com/local/local_story_240010542.html

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