Maliki lashes back at the US
By John Amato Tuesday Aug 28, 2007 4:30pm
In a 50-minute interview in his office in Baghdad's Green Zone, Maliki strongly defended his tenure and said that he doesn't expect to be forced out. He said his efforts at national reconciliation, not the surge of additional U.S. troops or actions by Iraqi security forces, are responsible for improved security.
He blamed the United States and its early policies in Iraq for the sectarianism that plagues the country, and said he opposed the current U.S. policy of working with former Sunni Muslim insurgent groups who've turned against al Qaida in Iraq because that, too, promotes sectarianism.
Ayad Allawi was on CNN last week stumping to get the job. He already got ousted by the Iraqi people once. What happened to Judy Miller's BFF---Chalabi, the original hand picked puppet?...AJ has a good post about the Broder candidate.
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Frist!
Let's ask Nguyen Van Thieu what he thinks.
Fruk it!
Maliki = Brownie = Bush's Scape Goat.
How's that nation building you promised in 2000 you wouldn't do workin out for ya Chimp?
Ruthless People @ 5:
Hey that was only a talking point to get elected. Don't hold him to it.
LOL.
Apparently, he's not doing enough to please Chimpy.
Funny, I thought Iraq was able to determine their own leadership. Isn't that why they all voted and received those wonderful purple ink stains on their fingers?
Welcome to the US version of democracy. You're allowed to do what you want....unless the US doesn't like it.
What in the hell are we doing there. Sheesh.
I Am A Banana @ 8:
Peak Oil.
Harley @ 6:
In 2000 he also said he also said he was a uniter not a divider. Was that another talking point or just another outright lie? I can't tell which is which anymore.
Live by the sword, die by the sword. You really thought bush would have your back when things went wrong? Ha!
Bush gave him democracy and freedom and damn it, he's not using it right. He was supposed to use it to kiss bush's ass and give him all the free oil he wanted.
Ayad Allawi has a lobby firm that is very friendly with the white house working to try to oust Maliki. Seems wrong in several ways if you ask me.
When Bush makes you out to be the goat you go with it. Didn't Maliki get the memo? Chalabi, ha! I think he's done enough already, don't you?
I will always believe the plan from the beginning was to give Chalabi the seat of top dog in Iraq in exchange for his bullshit info he fed the press to get this war started.
Silly Maliki, he doesn't know puppets aren't supposed to talk on their own.
Bushco & friends lost interest in Maliki's government as soon as the purple ink faded from their fingertips.
Maybe they should put Maliki in a flight suit and fly him into Baghdad under a "Mission Accomplished" banner.
Maliki's problem is he hasn't signed the oil deal yet. That's all we're waiting for. Sign over the oil and you're in, Maliki. For the love of God, how can we prop up a government that doesn't want to govern in the first place? This is just like what we did with the South Vietnamese puppets.
Speaking of the purple ink. Was I the only one that thought that was an awful idea? In a country where you could get killed just for voting, we make everyone dip their finger in waterproof purple ink. It was like painting a bull's eye on those people. Hopefully it didn't result in any deaths.
Andy K @ 16:
Now if they could just get the blood stains off their hands.
I think they, who ever they be, are running out of mixed neighborhoods to kill each other in. With over 2,000,000 relocations and 100,000 dead Iraqis it is calming down because there are less people around to kill.
Ruthless People @ 10:
He meant that he was a divider - not a uniter. We just miunderstood him?
Or maybe that was "bushspeak". :(
I´ve posted this a while ago in the "Little Britain" thread. It fits better in here.
Sitemonitor, will you please delete my earlier post? Thank you.
Slightly OT, I do know that. But it´s breaking news IMHO (and the open thread is pretty old meanwhile):
Sadr ‘freezes’ militia activities
Radical Iraqi Shia cleric Moqtada Sadr says he is freezing the activities of his Mehdi Army militia for up to six months in order to re-organise it.
He has also called on all its offices to co-operate with the security forces and exercise “self-control”.
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At the Karbala news conference, one of Moqtada Sadr’s aides read out a statement announcing that the Mehdi Army had suspended all its activities.
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The order was read out at a news conference in Karbala, where fighting on Tuesday killed more than 50 people.
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“We declare the freezing of the Mehdi Army without exception in order to rehabilitate it in a way that will safeguard its ideological image within a maximum period of six months starting from the day this statement is issued,” Sheikh Hazim al-Araji said.
In Najaf, another spokesman said the order included “suspending the taking up of arms against occupiers, as well as others”.
In April 2007, the US defence department described the Mehdi Army as the greatest threat to Iraq’s security, replacing al-Qaeda in Iraq as the country’s “most dangerous accelerant of potentially self-sustaining sectarian violence”.
article continues:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6968720.stm
Hmmm. Where is Chalupa, er Chalibi, anyhow? Wikipedia says he's no longer in the oil ministry. Having guys like him wandering around unsupervised makes me nervous.
We have learned the hard way that bush says the opposite of what he means, so that would explain all those pre-election statements.
the 4th Reich is rising @ 23:
How much ya wanna bet, Bush has found his "strong man"?
Strawberry, I'm betting he's walking around with a pocket full of a lot of our money. I did a long post on him several years ago after the war began. He is nothing but a crook and a true liar. He has always been out for himself and himself alone.
Oops, I was talking about chalabi. I should have made that clear in my last comment
time to go...period...We are not wanted there...the US troops are everybody's target...and apparently Malaki views them as HIS....(even though his troops don't have any loyalty to him....or his puppet government..)
Harley @ 9:
Oh duh, I forgot! hahah.
It s okay POP - we knew WHO you meant-- Chalabi comes and goes like a a bad flu....
Maliki has already said we could go anytime. Let's throw him some candy and flowers and get the hell out of there.
"...and he said he opposed the current U.S. policy of working with former Sunni Muslim insurgent groups who've turned against al Qiada in Iraq..."
Oh this should be a freaking riot to watch Sean Hannity and the rest of the knot heads at Fox News try and pin this on the Democrats. The best they'll be able to do is whip out that old yarn about someone adopting liberal talking points and you know damn well they will. Sorry guys, the policy of which Mr. Maliki speaks is solely that of "the decider."
But at least the surge is working, isn't it?
eh, eh, eh, eh....
"We'll be greeted as liberators." Yeah, any day now Dick, any day now.
Ruthless People @ 20:
Well, ya see, they don't actually have blood on their hands literally, so they assume they don't have any blood on their hands figuratively. Don't you ugly hippy terrorists get it?
Jesus, the GOP is like the clique of spoiled kids in high school. They think they have every right imagined but they have no responsibilities to which they can be held. And ya just know they're gonna be screamin' when the bill comes and we've gotta raise taxes to pay it.
Andy K @ 34:
They don't think they have blood on our hands but most of the world sees it a little differently http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2007/03/hearty-brazilian-welcome-for-c...
Ruthless People @ 35:
rather blood on their hands
Isn't this the same clown who'd said last spring that he wanted out before his 1st term was up, that he never wanted a 2nd term and never wanted the job at all?
The core issues are once again missed.
The US committed an international crime by invading Iraq and starting this war of opportunity/preemption. All that follows is criminal.
Who is in charge in Iraq? Better question ... what is being done to bring the criminals that started this war to justice in the Hague.
You understand, that includes a list of democrats ... including Hillary Clinton?
If you dont ask that question, you allow the criminals to define the agenda. If the criminals define the agenda ... they win.
Time for my pal Achmed Chalabi to run things, so I can get my mitts on that oil for my friends at Halliburton.
Bush will have to kill this guy, and soon. Say about mid September
FYI:
Richard Jewell, who probably saved some lives at the Atlanta Olympics before bein' falsely accused as the bomber, died today at 44 years of age.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070829/ap_on_re_us/obit_jewell
Thanks fer the service, Mr. Jewell. Apologies fer the smears. Ya deserved much better.
Lashes back all he wants, still, according to me he is extremely ineffective leader! Look like he is more in bed with the Iran than the U.S., and I wonder why we still helping him to stay in power.
This (not) just in!
Nearly everyone is saying that what needs to be done is (the following is a direct quote from a talking head whos name I forget, but the same is being said less directly all over the place by people on both 'sides')
"We need to stabilize Iraq by putting a strong man, LIKE SADAAM HUSSEIN, in place..."
Yay.
In other words, all of the soldiers and Iraqi civilians who have died, supposedly, to remove the brutal dictator Sadaam, have died to achieve the glorious goal of...
setting up Iraq for Sadaam II.
BLOGMYWAY.org @ 42:
Uhm, because he was democratically elected? Assumin' that we actually are helpin' him. I've got my doubts that we are. I mean, read the o.p..
He blamed the United States and its early policies in Iraq for the sectarianism that plagues the country, and said he opposed the current U.S. policy of working with former Sunni Muslim insurgent groups who’ve turned against al Qaida in Iraq because that, too, promotes sectarianism.
Read Juan Cole for good information on Iraq.
Maliki is a puppet caught between Shiite extremists and Bush.
The collapse of the leadership of the Mehdi Army probably means more blood in the short term.
The Sunnis who turned against Al Qaeda did so because they are now getting arms from the US, and they will use them against (us and) the Shiite Mehdi Army and Badr Brigade.
All parallels to Vietnam are appropriate including the complete willful ignorance of our own culpability on the part of our civilian and military leadership.
Cythraul @ 44:
Or simply sowin' the seeds for more anarchy. Hey, someone's makin' a ton of money sellin' arms. Bet those profiteers give a lot of money to the GOP and its causes.
Cythraul @ 43:
Second verse, same as the first...
Strawberry @ #26
I´m not going to bet right now. I wonder if the Mehdi Army´s move and this is somehow related, especially in light what I´ve read a few days ago. Maliki uttered (can´t find the source right now) that something really surprising will happen in the next few days.
President: Iran to give crushing response to any possible hostile actions
Tehran, Aug 28, IRNA
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said here Tuesday that any action against the Iranian nation will be given proper response.
"I consider it unlikely if the US takes any such illogical and illegal action because the measure would turn into a joke worldwide.
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"Today, our volume of commercial transactions with the UAE is more than 11 billion dollars. Our relationship with officials of the country is cordial and friendly. Moreover, we have good relations with Qatar, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Bahrain."
He went on to say that Iraqi occupiers do not favor unity among regional nations and want to pit them against one another so as to continue their presence in Iraq. "Fortunately, the course of events is in favor of unity and fraternity among Iraqi people."
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"Iran will suffer the most in case of insecurity in Iraq because it shares longest borders with the country. Many Iraqis are of Iranian origin and many Iranians are of Iraqi origin. Anybody from any group who gets hurt in Iraq will make the Iranian nation unhappy.
Iran has no need for such interferences. The government, parliament, president and prime minister of Iraq all love Iran. Today formation of government in Iraq is in favor of all and Iran."
He said that occupiers have come to Iraq under the pretext of insecurity while they are the source of insecurity there. "They shipped arms and put them at the disposal of different groups and took provocative acts and hatched plots. Charging Iran is not a solution to their problems. We do not insist on taking them out of the quagmire. We have already said we are ready to help them get out the swamp but now that they emphasize to remain in it, so let it be so."
http://www2.irna.ir/en/news/view/line-17/0708286669191809.htm
Yeah, well Puppet Maliki has just learned that when you lie down with Dogs, you get fleas.
He grabbed for the golden ring, but this Republican merry-go-round is rigged. The only people making out are the Contractors.
Hillary calling for his ouster is just another sign she still doesn't get it. He was elected by the Iraqis, and the US should have no voice whatever in whether he stays or goes. If she wants to call for someone to be kicked out, she should go after Bush.
Andy K @ 41:
Cynthia Tucker owes him an appology.
Old Billy @ 46-
The Sunnis who turned against Al Qaeda did so because they are now getting arms from the US, and they will use them against (us and) the Shiite Mehdi Army and Badr Brigade.
Well, ya got the cause and effect backwards. The tribal Sunnis in al Anbar Province started fightin' AQI sometime in 2005 then we started armin' them within the last year.
Money's been flyin' into Anbar fer both sides (tribal and AQI) from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait & the UAE, fightin' a proxy war between the royal elements of those countries and their dissidents.
But, on the bright side, the winner in Anbar gets to take on the winner of the Shiite in-fightin' between the Badr Brigades and the Mahdi Army, the proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arbia/Kuwait/UAE. And they'll all- with Turkish backin!- fuck with the Kurds.
Andy K @ 53:
I wonder what the Kurds are going to do. You never hear about the Kurdish loyalist militias, but they would be idiots to not have an armed force. Talabani may be the smartest Iraqi politician.
Of course the Kurds have been quiet because they already have oil. The Sunnis and the Baghdad Shiites don't, so they are looking to the south (where there is oil). I guess attacks on the north would be more transparent? Or maybe the US is clearly defending the north more? Maybe the oil is more accessible in the south? Maybe the Kurdish militias are (quiet but) very well organized?
anon @ 52:
Was she working for the FBI?
You mean a puppet has consciousness?
Andy K @ 53:
Apparently the Sunni's in Anbar have been financing their activities on our dime since 2003. According to an AP article in the Seattle Times they have been extorting bribes from contractors who wanted to pass through their territories. That could mean several bribes in just a few miles as they pass from one Sheiks territory to the next.
Of course, those were U.S. tax dollars because the contractors were working for us. The expense was probably buried under security. We just cut out the middle man and started paying the bribes directly to the Sheiks.
Maliki played or should I say punked Bush/Cheney. After getting more then One Trillion dollars of taxpayers money Maliki made new friends in Iran, Syria and Turkey. Yes Bush is now asking for 50 billion dollars knowing it's not going to Iraq because the US will be kicked out. Notice no word from Cheney who is packing up and putting his stolen money in off shore accounts. Daddy Bush is trying to say his baby son, so he fired Rove and Gonzales and Daddy will appoint the next AG not baby George. It's so funny how the US media gives breaking news when it was already been in the foreign news about a week ago.
Bush/Cheney punked Americans twice and still doing it. When Bush/Cheney leave office and Americans see how much debt the United States is in I wonder will we be smart enough to know the Bush Administration has been stealing from day one or will they blame it on Bill Clinton.
Carmikl @ 57:
Is that in addition to the billions we haven't been able to keep track of?
Jackie @ 58:
Oh, come on, you can't blame Clinton... No, you have to blame the gays, the abortionists, and the "secular progressives."
No?
How about illegal drug users? Dirty hippies? Minorities? Ooo! I know! Illegal immigrants! damned brown people always screwing up 'merika.
Old Billy @ 54:
The Kurds have been hit woth some major car bomb attacks since the US redeployment (read: SURGE) to Baghdad. Previously, they hadn't seen many car bombs.
The Kurds were organized before the first Gulf War. They're probably more organized now. They're relatively secular- it's all about Kurdish nationalism, not religion fer them. They're the best friends we could have over there. But...
The Kurds are loathed by the Syrians, Arab Iraqi's, Iranians and- most importantly- the Turks. The Turks are our allies, so...
Add to this that any Kurdish state would be landlocked, and ya gotta figure that if it did emerge a new nation, Kurdistan wouldn't last long. They'd have to ship their most valuable commodity via pipeline through any one or more of four(or more- who knows) hostile nations.
The political math adds up to no Kurdish state.
Carmikl @ 57:
Yes, the Sunni tribal leaders have levied some hard taxes from the get go, and the US authorities was actually payin' them directly in '03, but, until we started backin' 'em again earlier this year, the oil rich nations to the south have been doin' the majority of their fund raisin'. Lemme look fer a link.
All of this divisive sectarianism in Iraq is the fault of Bill Clinton. Had he not had sex with Ishtar and then punked Gilgamesh in the ass, all of this would not be happening. Ur!
The administration will imply that somehow he has been conspiring with Iran against the US. Lay blame on others, lay claim to their property, and lay waste to anyone who disagrees.
nsr @ 55:
She was editor of the newspaper in atlanta that smeared him without cause.
Maliki should shut up, or contract with Iran to get someone can really run his country.
Actually, this is typical Bush strategy. Get Maliki out, get Allawi in, and then Bush can argue that US troops need to stay to support the newer new Iraqi government.
As when he said the Iraqis were ready to stand up and that the Americans can go home any time, Maliki's leash is going to get yanked....hard.
He was either mis-quoted or mis-interpreted or he will just declare he was wrong within the next day or 2.
Old Billy @ 54:
The Kurds have a large well organized security force. The Peshmerga were going to be the cornerstone of last summers "Surge". They were supposed to fill in behind our troops after our troops cleared an area, but the Kurds chose to keep them at home, so they used regular Iraqi troops instead. That didn't work out very well.
Andy K @ 62:
A link: http://globalpolicy.igc.org/security/issues/iraq/withdraw/2007/0809anbar...
And another: http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/12/saudis_planning.html
More: http://216.109.125.130/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=Anbar+%2B+tribal+%2B+%22a...
And, finally: http://www.govexec.com/features/0807-15/0807-15na2.htm
Maliki is proof that booscheney doesn't know how to handle a sockpuppet!
Tim in Japan @ 68:
It has been a week or so since his first rant. looks like he's not that kind of puppet. anymore. maybe. he might be growing the spine everyone wishes the dems could show.
The Truth Hurts @ 7:
We'll, since Iran with the Shah, Chile with Pinochet and countless other countries in the world, it's hardly a new US version of democracy. Slighty more violent, maybe... /snark.
Andy K @ 53:
If you ever read The Anabasis you'll remember Xenophon and his 10,000 (Dorian) Greeks had to fight their way through the Kurds to get back to Greece in about 400 BC. (The Persian Campaign) Xenophon described them as warlike highlanders. They've been defending that same piece of land for a very long time.
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Al-Mailiki needs to call a special session of the Iraqi Parliment, with one item on the agenda: an up or down vote demanding the expulsion of the US from Iraq's sovereign territory, including all diplomatic missions. Give the US and Britain 2 weeks to get out.
It's the only way Iraq can save itself from being colonized. If the Iraqis feel they need third party intervention in their internal affairs to secure peace, stabilitity, freedom and the integrity of their sovereignty over their natural resources, that is a job for the UN and/or for regional states.
Nice misdirection by al Maliki. He of course never had any intention of bringing American style democracy to Iraq. His whole purpose was to deliver Baghdad on a silver platter to the clerics in Iran.
How's that working out?
It's fair to say that the CPA didn't have a clue and were certainly not prepared. But then neither did anyone else. If one wants to lay blame then let's go back to the UN mandated embargoes of the post Gulf War era and what that did to sew the seeds of whatever we are seeing today. Does anyone really expect a country that experienced the equivalent of 10 years worth of Katrina like damage to its infrastructure and institutions to be able to turn itself around in a thrice? The world created this mess and in the final analysis it'll be up to the world to fix it.
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