The Religious Right's "Supreme Vision"
I am back from my vacation, reluctantly plugging myself back into the news. The only English-language channel I saw during my travels was CNN Global, which was more or less news-free with repeated airings of "God's Warriors" over and over. People For The American Way also watched the program and found some chilling aspects to the Christian Warriors segment:
In her series "God's Warriors," CNN's Christiane Amanpour visited Liberty University where she learned that, though greatly pleased with the confirmations of Justices Roberts and Alito, they are training the "next generation of pit bulls" to "keep fighting at the Supreme Court until we have a new day. We never ever, ever give up."
UPDATE: You can watch other portions of the entire Christian Warrior program on YouTube here.
The video has been yanked from YouTube already Nicole.
too bad it was pulled... i saw that series and i clearly remember that segment... and so my response is to simply say that we must never stop fighting back or we risk social devolution beyond that of what we've seen in recent years... i doubt any of "god's warriors" actually want to return to the dark ages, but they are certainly adamant on learning this lesson the hard way...
Their "New Day" is Armageddon. Is there any way we can get religious belief defined as a mental disease?
I saw the segment in the first airing. What makes this group of fanatics any different in mind control than the "foreigners" we are supposed to convert? This is a dangerous trend and should not even be called a religion.
Funny how we experience numerous terrorist attacks by Christian fundamentalists in this country but this terrorism is acceptable because it's part of the Republican base. Why should I be concerned with Iran when members of Operation Rescue are putting my friends lives in danger every day in my own town?
Religious shitheads.
Welcome home Nicole. Hope your vacation left you rested and ready to rock and roll. :)
I remember several years ago reading how the religious right had a plan to gain control of the government. They were going to infiltrate the govt to the highest level. I remember how much reading that scared me. It sounded like a nightmare. People with their beliefs ruling on the Supreme Court. Well, here we are.
"liberty university"
who can name the two inaccuracies in that 'insyitutions' name?
That's why they have a lot of wives who want them on Viagra or out of the saddle already.
Samson- @ 8:
whoa, sorry, crazy fingahs: institutions
"keep fighting at the Supreme Court until we have a new day. We never ever, ever give up.”
And neither do we you SHITBAG, neither do we!
This really puts pit bulls in a bad light. Haven't we done enough damage with regards to these animals?
I think what he meant to say was the next generation of
assholes.
jack jett
i know that there is a sucker born every minute, but you would think that after the past 6 years, the religious right would wake up and understand that they are being conned.
The nutty theocrats never give up, their stance just gets wider and wider in every bathroom stall they enter.
I'm surprised these puritans don't use another word than insTITution.
People who go to the bathroom with kidney stones and/or the clap also don't give up.
Bush is speaking in Mississippi right now and from the sound of the applause, there must be about a dozen people there and it appears from the many introductions they are mostly state gov people.
I keep thinking sanity will gain control of America again and keep these "pit bulls" on a short leash
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Religion. Because every wound could use a little salt.
I hope that these scandals don't destroy the GOP.
We need to have them around for comic relief.
I just heard a spokesman for the pentagon at a press briefer. From what he was saying I doubt there is going to be in draw-down in Iraq any time soon. He was talking about equipment they will be sending over after the first of the year. They wouldn't be planning that if they didn't intend to use it for a long time. How about all these warriors for god sign their damned names on the dotted line and take off for Iraq.
Fail.
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How are these Christian fascists any different than their Islamic counterparts?
They ALL hate Democracy, science, reason, thinking.
To expect the Religious Right to give up is fallacious. However, they can be made irrelevant. While it is hard to foresee their demise in this era, their hypocrisy is increasingly evident. Trends are contradictory at times. There has been a religious revival and their numbers are increasing but there is also a backlash even among the religious to use of nefarious politics to achieve their social aims. Gay marriage will be a reality in my lifetime. They may chip away in a few states but over time health will prevail. And if we can restore education then issues like evolution should be won. Granted Scopes was in 1925 and we are still fighting that battle.
"they are training the 'next generation of pit bulls'"
Awesome. Let's throw all the "Liberty" "University" grads into a pit and let them fight to the death. That would be less of a loss to society than the dogs Michael Vick murdered.
pissed off patricia @ 17:
How many times does that make for him today, P.O.P.? Bush, I mean, speaking, press conferences...sheesh, every time I watch him, I swear, I can feel my IQ drop exponentially.
The Religious Right’s “Supreme Vision”
A representative of their movement that's not gay.
Probably just as well I couldn't see and hear the video. Hearing it seems worse than reading it.
Does it matter what a group calls themselves or which god they believe in if they are willing to harm human beings in order to accomplish their cause? I don't think so.
Actually "God's Warriors" intimate view of their "pit bulls" and the type of the legal strategy they are currently utilizing to promote their cause was frigging scary....
That segment probably just scratched the surface....
I wonder what else could be on their agenda?....
Strawberry this is the third locale I've seen him at today. He's pathetic to watch. He still grins and giggles at all the wrong times. He still talks about progress and entrepreneurs even as he stands just yards from total disaster.
Joe Scarborough (who cares if I fu*king spelled his name wrong) got all bent out of shape last week because he felt Christians shouldn't have been considered a part of her series. He said he couldn't see any resemblance between the other religions she covered and Christians.
they won't stop until they win. they brainwash millions of children in their own private schools. and they are highly motivated. :(
The cons have violent fantasies about judges which they teach to their kids
Its obvious... why "these types of stories" are accelerating nationwide..
the have to air this to rally the last group of nutcases supporting Bush
and to show this as "a two hour news program" to fill time to distract from the REAL story..
--> George W. Bush, Richard B. Cheney and other civil officers who have committed Treason, Bribery, High Crimes and Fraud against the United States of America, our public institutions and our people.
and with the new bathroom story... Just like many stories...
"Either government officials prosecute pedophile offenders or they do not. If they do not, it is clear that they are either pedophiles themselves or aid and abet in pedophile activities."
http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=130&a=1501
pissed off patricia @ 31:
i fucking hate his squinty-eyed being. i, unfortunately, caught part of his 'morning joe' show (see, morning vomit) this morning and he was calling the corporate-shill from cnbc a 'commie' for pseudo-defending the estate tax.
anyhoo, sorry for the O/T
topic-centered:
the crazy-religious right (see, american taliban) are much, much, much, much more dangerous that al qaeda could ever hope and pray to be. the american taliban scare the bejesus out of me, and i can barely suffer their foolish ignorance in conjunction with the ignorant foolishness. their goal is to create a bastardized version of america, help spread the seeds of destruction in the ME, spurn environmental stewardship and prepare for armageddon--all the while playing the israelis for fools.
(looks up for lightning w/samson's name on it)
pissed off patricia @ 31:
I also heard Dan Abrams go off for the same reason. He seemed very upset or at least played the role of being very offended by the parallel to the nut jobs that blow themselves up to these Christians that only mean to follow God's path. You know what path they're referring to, to divide themselves from all others and step up on their high pedestal of hypocrisy. I'm so sick of this argument. Those nut jobs that they refer to, the ones that would put their lives on the line for something they believe in, represent a very small number of Muslims, I'm sure not as many as the Christians who praise our brave American soldiers for putting the lives on the line for something they believe in. After watching this series, I guess for the Christian Right not to fight back would have been expecting a miracle.
This right wing 'noise machine' that exists to hate and spread that hate far and wide, from Sea To Shining Sea, that you speak of didn't just emerge out of a vacuum, it was engineered.
Now, I know that sounds like a bold, tin-foil hat worthy, paranoid statement, but sadly I can back it up.
What do you think is, and has been, the Number One College Debate Team in the USA?
Harvard?
Nope.
Yale?
Nope?
Princeton?
Nope.
Cornell?
Nope.
It's Jerry's Kids, at Jerry Falwell's Liberty College, alma mater of Monica Goodling.
This 'wall of noise' attack style that you see on Fox, and elsewhere, has been perfected and honed on his campus:
The above article ran in the Washington Post in 2004, and they've gotten a lot more practice under their belts since then.
And, follow these below links for more background, that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Also, it's not just the Jerry Falwell's Debate Team that you need to worry about, it's the future Libby Scooters, Karl Roves and Dick Cheneys that are being actively groomed, right now, by this White House.
Think the Sarah Taylors, Monica Goodlings and J. Scott Jennings are bad?
In the words of Ronald Reagan, "you ain't seen nuthin' yet."
Here's some background for you and your listeners on Patrick Henry College, an Evangelical College, comprised of home-schooled kids, that has been a feeder system of White House Interns since Herr Busch took office.
Start with this New Yorker piece:
Annals of Education: God and Country: The New Yorker
and go here for more background.
The Bible College That Leads to the White House
Patrick Henry College - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You may not, but I find this extremely chilling.
For one primary reason, it speaks of a level of organization that we Progressives just don't have.
We can rail against this deplorable machine of hate all we want but the grim fact is if we do not get our stuff together like they have, we will be doomed to failure.
(see: Franklin, Ben, 'hang together, or hang separately.')
Time to get organized, or live with the consequences.
~Nyc
They can keep plotting all thery want to gain ultimate power. they have screwed things up so badly that it will be generations before these fucks ever have another realistic shot at controlling things.
and, speaking of insane, crooked, fuckwads: jerry falwell...
i saw the documentary Maxed Out last night (I super duper recommend it) and they showed some footage of one of his "sermons" (see, satan speak)
he ventured into the subject of debt. oh boy, it was truly a head-slapper. summed up: falwell said that people who are in financial trouble need to give more money to his church, and--somehow--that got them out of financial trouble. he called it spiritual mathematics. he shamed his sheep into giving him upwards of 30% of their money to his satanic church...
wow. falwell, why do you hate baby jesus so? oh wait, falwell is dead... wow, i should respect the dead.... who am i kidding we all know falwell still walks among us, and i don't remember anything about respecting the undead.
Samson- @ 35:
I loved when Amanpour called the one guy who runs the Jesus Warriors boot camp on this. The kids aren't allowed to listen to 'secular music' and girls have to wear long skirts. "Isn't that what the Taliban does?" she asked. He managed to spit out some lame answer but you can tell he was caught off guard by having his own shit flung back at him.
I missed the Muslim one, caught the Christian and Jewish one, I am actually rather impressed with the series. It is well done, puts forth the facts of the situations, again of just the two I have seen, and doesn't exactly pull punches, at least as far as CNN goes.
I even had a bit of hope watching the Christian one, during the segments with the two "liberal" pastors. One who has taken a strong environmental stance, and the slander he has had to face because of that from other Christian leaders, and then the pastor who did the 'cross and sword' sermon, chastising Neo-Christians for embracing the war, aggression and intolerance, that has seem to take over the religion. He made a call for Christians to go back to following in the path of Jesus, and embrace peace, love, forgiveness, and tolerance...and staying out of politics. Apparently he lost a 1000 members of his congregation for his "liberal" views, but he gained at least one person willing to listen from this show. If you go to their website, you can watch his sermon for free, or order them and even pay when you get them, after you view them. I'm mostly agnostic, with Taoist leanings, but these two segments renewed my faith in the followers of Christ, unfortunately all the other segments managed to keep that hope in check.
Here is the good guy's church in case any one is interested...
http://www.whchurch.org/content/page_3.htm
Oh God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son"
Abe says, "Man, you must be puttin' me on"
God say, "No." Abe say, "What?"
God say, "You can do what you want Abe, but
The next time you see me comin' you better run"
Well Abe says, "Where do you want this killin' done?"
God says, "Out on Highway 61." - Bob Dylan
Weaseldog @ 41:
It's not just the christians though who get sucked into this hellish vortex. Did anyone see the other "God's Warriors" segments as well? The judasim and islamic ones? They're all crazy.
I'm not too worried. If Goodling is their par, they'll go nowhere.
moondancer @ 43:
liberty, regent, and bob jones all seem to be jokes...
but check out this article about patrick henry college:
http://www.alternet.org/story/60487/
42 hello Says: Weaseldog @ 41:
Oh God said to Abraham, “Kill me a son”
Abe says, “Man, you must be puttin’ me on”
God say, “No.” Abe say, “What?”
God say, “You can do what you want Abe, but
The next time you see me comin’ you better run”
Well Abe says, “Where do you want this killin’ done?”
God says, “Out on Highway 61.” - Bob Dylan
It’s not just the christians though who get sucked into this hellish vortex. Did anyone see the other “God’s Warriors” segments as well? The judasim and islamic ones? They’re all crazy.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfU92tDr8rg
MargeAggedon @ 19:
Thanks for that laugh Marge!
Please Ebus, save me from your followers!
The only way to fight religious people is to use their religion against them. For instance, when the Christian proselytizers come to your front door, ask them "Do you think Jesus would bomb Iran?" and they run, crying, from your house.
They start young -- very young. I believe it was Saint Francis Xavier who said "Give me a child for for his first seven years and I'll give you the man" ...by which the religious wackos operate.
bilhelm-X @ 46:
Jebus was a joke on the Simpsons which the writer, Mark Pinsky, pointed out was an ancient name for Jerusalem.
Funny thing was Esus was the name the Romans gave an earlier continental Celtic healing god, but in his case he wasn't hung from anything, but demanded human sacrifice--in a life for a life scenario--by hanging from a tree.
"it does not say anywhere in the constitution that abortion is legal"..........he says in the video........
Does he not see the FLOCKING FIRST AMENDMENT!??!?
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;............"
How does he justify what he is trying to do with the FIRST AMENDMENT specifically saying what it says..???
And he calls himself a lawyer (shaking a bottle of yoo-hoo)
These people are bat shit crazy. I had to stop watching. They scaret me.
SouthTxMan @ 49:
The Supreme Court in Griswold v Connecticut (1965), set the precedent of recoginizing the IX amendment as the "penumbra" amendment, that the original 10 rights aren't our only rights. They also said the IV, V, and VI amendment in particular could be summarized as privacy rights. This was the precedent Roe v Wade (1973) drew from. Since the late 30's the XIV amendment set the standard of the incorporationist doctrine, that along with the Executive Supremacy clause of the US Constitution meant no state could deny federal rights to it's citizenry.
There's also no right in the constitution for a tax free exemption for churches.
Rusty Shackleford @ 25:
oh what you said ,
45, ysbad:
"You got two males down there and you need to bring in a female..."
Man, thank you muchly for posting this link. Thanks to Joe Weaks as well, bless his heart :D
Yep, fire with fire. Everybody got their Unitarian Jihad names picked out yet? ("Sister Molotov Cocktail of Fair-mindedness" is already spoken for.)
Welcome back Nicole. I live overseas and get CNN global news. Recently, my cable provider added the BBC global news, which is great. I must come to the blogs/internet to get good news though. I've written CNN many times, but... Still, I probably fare as well as anyone here. There is no news on TV.
Samson- @ 10:
lol... i thought that was an intentional slur reflecting their "general level of intelligence"... if you were a member of that wingnut group, you would not have corrected yourself, instead preferring to adamantly assert that it was the correct spelling while calling anyone whom disagreed a heathen... however... by your own honesty, you set yourself apart...
ysbaddaden @ 45:
Yes. I watched all three parts. I'm not sure who is craziest. They all are. So much for modernity. We're going back to the days of the Crusaders. The biggest cheerleaders here are the neocons. It's because, back then, popes ruled with an iron fist (and fantasy: today it's "spin") and kept everyone in (general) fear, and in fear of hell, and all with stories they cooked up in the church. Here we go again.
hello @ 42:
i saw all three and, you bet... they are ALL crazy, hate-mongering nutjobs who seem to be hell-bent on bringing armageddon down on all of us... i've said this elsewhere and every day it seems to be more true than each day prior; humanity's greatest curse is institutionalized religion... no institution has the right to represent what is essentially a subjective and personal journey of discovery... "if you meet the buddha on the road, kill him"
Roberts may have passed the anti-abortion test, but did he pass the anti-gay test? I doubt he did.
cubiclegrrl @ 54:
Unitarian? There's Unitarians out there?
Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense - i mean the part about making a graven image of a book that explicitly states thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image.... and put it up for all to see...
It's not just the christians though who get sucked into this hellish vortex. Did anyone see the other "God's Warriors" segments as well? The judasim and islamic ones? They're all crazy.
Yes, they are. Here is someone else who agrees.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xqNbZKIQUs
Not only have I lost my religion, I am losing my patience.
Isn't a "Christocrat" a theocrat
These idiots don't get that the secularism and materialism is part of the economic systems they hold do dear.
How many children has Pastor Joseph Feiten and Dinnelle adopted?
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This is an anti-American *political* group given sanction to infiltrate and destabilized our legal system. Jerk their accreditation and turn off the money spigots NOW.
I would like to take this moment to thank Harry Reid, Holy Joe Lieberman and the Gang of 14 who made possible our present Supreme Court makeup of religious-right wingnuts.
"Christian Warriors"
An Oxymoron if ever there was one.
Have these people never read the Bible?
Do they not realize that the individual they claim to follow declared “be ye therefore wise as serpents and harmless as doves”?
As Mark Maron put it...'The Christofasicst Zombie Brigade'
ysbaddaden @ 15:
Nah... to subtle, they'd never get it. Besides, I think it's only right to call them institutions, since their attendees are all certifiable...
so many white people at the graduation ceremony.....
bU$h's "ramped-up Republicans" and Pumped-UP" priests
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