how come Bruce Willis was there?

was he trying to convince the American people or himself that he is now humble?

He said he mis-understood the term "public service".

I'm SHOCKED! I never saw it coming.

This is plain stupid. I cannot believe how so-called progressives are licking their chops over this. Hypocricy is one thing; but it's not illegal.

Trolling for sex, to the best of my knowledge, is not against the law. Yet progressives have joined the cons in making this a gay sexual issue.

Just this morning, I heard, on progressive radio, "When it comes to trolling for sex, I draw the line when it happens in public places, straight or gay."

Bullcrap.

Go to any public park on a sunny day (or a beach for that matter) and you'll see straight couples engaged in foreplay. AND in front of the eyes of our precious children.

You don't see this happening with gays because even the sight of two men or two women holding hands in public is "repulsive sex".

There are also pubs and bars, although not considered "public" per se, where trolling for sex is permissible and expected.

The shallowness of the arguments here and elsewhere is appalling. This is strictly a gay issue that the 'cons and the corporate media served up to us in heaping piles, and we couldn't consume it fast enough.

Vitter committed a much more serious crime of paying for sex, and he's applauded.

Craig, however, drops his drawers and taps his foot, and he's skewered.

I don't understand the hypocrisy of Americans in general. We've obsessed on this issue all week. I can only imagine how the Europeans and other nations are laughing at us. Rightly so.

Now, repeat after me:

David Vitter, David Vitter, David Vitter...

All GOP "family values" hypocrites need to go.

Sad really ... how the Republicans are 'with you' if you're spouting homophobic hate ... but you get in trouble and they dump you like a dead flashlight battery ...

I don't think the light was ever on in that flashlight.

Just Me @ 10:

This is plain stupid. I cannot believe how so-called progressives are licking their chops over this. Hypocricy is one thing; but it's not illegal.

Trolling for sex, to the best of my knowledge, is not against the law. Yet progressives have joined the cons in making this a gay sexual issue.

Just this morning, I heard, on progressive radio, "When it comes to trolling for sex, I draw the line when it happens in public places, straight or gay."

Bullcrap.

Go to any public park on a sunny day (or a beach for that matter) and you'll see straight couples engaged in foreplay. AND in front of the eyes of our precious children.

You don't see this happening with gays because even the sight of two men or two women holding hands in public is "repulsive sex".

There are also pubs and bars, although not considered "public" per se, where trolling for sex is permissible and expected.

The shallowness of the arguments here and elsewhere is appalling. This is strictly a gay issue that the 'cons and the corporate media served up to us in heaping piles, and we couldn't consume it fast enough.

Vitter committed a much more serious crime of paying for sex, and he's applauded.

Craig, however, drops his drawers and taps his foot, and he's skewered.

I don't understand the hypocrisy of Americans in general. We've obsessed on this issue all week. I can only imagine how the Europeans and other nations are laughing at us. Rightly so.

Dear Airhead, the hypocracy is about how he constantly raised his voice against gay rights, gay people in general and then in the end (no pun intended) he gets caught openly soliciting gay sex in a mensroom.

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d-man @ 17:

For the record, I'd love to see Vitter go down, as he is as much of a hypocrite as Craig is. Unfortunately it seems that in Louisiana one person they trust less than a politician sleeping with hookers is one who's not. I guess that is why Vitter still has his job.

I hope you will forgive those of us who laugh at Craig. It's just so funny to see yet another closeted homosexual emerging from the ranks of the "party of values."

I hate to be the one to interject the base aspect of politics into this but there is a simple reason why the GOP has sought to protect Vitter over Craig. Idaho is a GOP safehold. No Ds in national office. Louisiana, especially in the light of failures of federal support after Katrina, holds no such guarantee for a GOP politician.

10 Just Me

Speak for yourself. I also have found this to be a distraction on almost the same level of Britney refusing to wear panties, however, Britney is not singing songs about ostricizing women who refuse to wear panties. (I have other issues with her, but she is beside the point.)

We have a man here who has helped force people just like himself to seek out companionship in inappropriate places because some gay people feel being open about their sexuality would harm them in some way. Indeed, being openly gay has harmed many people (the Nazis put them in the ovens too.)

Had the gay Republican law makers in our nations history (and the Democratic ones as well) stood up for the rights of themselves and other gays Craig could have openly married another man, had he found his soul mate or if not could have gone in search of a soul mate in public without fear.

He and those who think as he does burried him.

Don't blame progressives for seeing the irony. Ignoring this story does nothing for the promotion of gay rights.

I think it's too bad Craig resigned.

I would have much preferred that he stayed in office and try to fight these bullshit laws in this country. Why the hell are cops running sting operations to catch people in the bathroom? Why shouldn't gay men be allowed to pick up on each other in a public bathroom?

Craig should have stayed on, so he could represent the gay men of Idaho that just wanna have a little bathroom fun.

Just Me @ 21:

[deleted - your right wing talking points have been duly noted. The post isn't anti-gay in any way and you know it. Move along.]

Thank you, Captain Obvious - no, hypocrisy is not illegal. What IS illegal is soliciting sex in a public mens room. The fact that the man doing it is the same guy who has been bashing gays for decades is just icing on the cake.

Just Me @ 10:

This is plain stupid. I cannot believe how so-called progressives are licking their chops over this. Hypocricy is one thing; but it’s not illegal.

Apparently it is illegal in Minnesota, or else the cop wouldn't have busted him for it. I think most progressives aren't "licking their chops" because he's gay, but because he's a Republican. That's why I am anyway.

koko @ 26:

I think it's too bad Craig resigned.

I would have much preferred that he stayed in office and try to fight these bullshit laws in this country. Why the hell are cops running sting operations to catch people in the bathroom? Why shouldn't gay men be allowed to pick up on each other in a public bathroom?

Craig should have stayed on, so he could represent the gay men of Idaho that just wanna have a little bathroom fun.

heh this prick spends his time kicking other homos under the bus!!!!!

Just Me @ 10:

This is plain stupid. I cannot believe how so-called progressives are licking their chops over this. Hypocricy is one thing; but it's not illegal.

Trolling for sex, to the best of my knowledge, is not against the law. Yet progressives have joined the cons in making this a gay sexual issue.

Just this morning, I heard, on progressive radio, "When it comes to trolling for sex, I draw the line when it happens in public places, straight or gay."

Bullcrap.

Go to any public park on a sunny day (or a beach for that matter) and you'll see straight couples engaged in foreplay. AND in front of the eyes of our precious children.

You don't see this happening with gays because even the sight of two men or two women holding hands in public is "repulsive sex".

There are also pubs and bars, although not considered "public" per se, where trolling for sex is permissible and expected.

The shallowness of the arguments here and elsewhere is appalling. This is strictly a gay issue that the 'cons and the corporate media served up to us in heaping piles, and we couldn't consume it fast enough.

Vitter committed a much more serious crime of paying for sex, and he's applauded.

Craig, however, drops his drawers and taps his foot, and he's skewered.

I don't understand the hypocrisy of Americans in general. We've obsessed on this issue all week. I can only imagine how the Europeans and other nations are laughing at us. Rightly so.

JustMe - You're right. There is an unacceptable level of homophobia in American culture. It's repulsive that people go out of their way to limit or remove the right of gay men and women to live their lives unmolested by the tyranny of self-righteous puritans.

The thing is, Craig is one of those self-righteous puritans. I'm not terribly knowledgable about how gay men troll for sex in public bathrooms - undoubtably, this is because I am a straight woman - but the police officer in question knew exactly what Craig was doing and it wasn't some harmless foot-tapping. And the police officer in question was upholding the law that people like Craig helped to pass.

So, by all means, champion the cause of freedom for sexual expression. But don't confuse this issue. I'm glad Craig has resigned. I don't care if he's gay or straight or a bit of both. I care that he's a hypocrite who would punish others for the behaviour he engaged in himself.

Oh, and Vitter should be forced to resign for the same reason. Not because he was unfaithful to his wife, but because (1) he solicited a prostitute, which is illegal and (2) he made a career out of his 'family values' when he obviously had no values to speak of - family or otherwise.

Now Larry will have all the time in the world to seek his legal options. Why would he stop now? He said he was innocent even though he plead guilty. Instead he plans a book titled "If I Did It".

Just Me @ 10-

Go to any public park on a sunny day (or a beach for that matter) and you’ll see straight couples engaged in foreplay. AND in front of the eyes of our precious children.

Ya mean makin' out, as in kissin'? Yeah, I guess ya'd consider that the early stages of foreplay, but if I ever saw two people clutchin' at each others' genitalia or dry humpin' each other in the park, I sure as hell wouldn't call that acceptable. And any couple engagin' in sex in a park, when apprehended, should be charged.

Vitter committed a much more serious crime of paying for sex, and he’s applauded.

Are ya livin' in some parallel universe or somethin'? Republicans certainly weren't applaudin' Vitter. As fer Dems and other libs- that wasn't applause either. Those were laughs of derision.

the gop "leadership" probably gave him some kind of deal to step down.
so they can maintain that seat.

Curtilingus @ 35:

Baby Jesus if you figured out the dynamics of authoritarianism several thousand years ago, why are you still calling yourself a baby?

hes kind of busy calling other folks morons

Just me at nr 10
As a certified Swede - yes we laugh at you. But mostly at the whole situation. A Gay-basher senator caught in a mens restroom looking for gay sex....yes thats funny. It sort of highlights the american obsession with homosexuality in particular and sex in general. One day we hope you will get real sex education in schools, demystify contraceptives, get your teenage pregnancy rates down, accept people whatever they are sexually, stop bombing abortion clinics, and generally mature in this area.

Nicole Belle @ 22:

d-man @ 17:

For the record, I'd love to see Vitter go down, as he is as much of a hypocrite as Craig is. Unfortunately it seems that in Louisiana one person they trust less than a politician sleeping with hookers is one who's not. I guess that is why Vitter still has his job.

I hope you will forgive those of us who laugh at Craig. It's just so funny to see yet another closeted homosexual emerging from the ranks of the "party of values."

I hate to be the one to interject the base aspect of politics into this but there is a simple reason why the GOP has sought to protect Vitter over Craig. Idaho is a GOP safehold. No Ds in national office. Louisiana, especially in the light of failures of federal support after Katrina, holds no such guarantee for a GOP politician.

Even more relevant, imo, is that Idaho's GOP governor will choose Craig's replacement. If Vitter would resign his replacement would be chosen by Louisiana's Democratic governor.

Greup @ 44:

Just me at nr 10
As a certified Swede - yes we laugh at you. But mostly at the whole situation. A Gay-basher senator caught in a mens restroom looking for gay sex....yes thats funny. It sort of highlights the american obsession with homosexuality in particular and sex in general. One day we hope you will get real sex education in schools, demystify contraceptives, get your teenage pregnancy rates down, accept people whatever they are sexually, stop bombing abortion clinics, and generally mature in this area.

Tell me, is sex any fun anymore after all that edumacation. Doesn't it take the nastiness out of it? We like the nastiness.

I wonder if the Democratic Senators have passed a rule keeping all the Rupublicans out of the mens room. Make 'em go outside if they can't learn to behave themselves.

Curtilingus @ 41:

Kevin Good @ 31:

I agree with Larry Craig that he is not gay. That would be an insult to gays.
He is a public restroom pervert.

He was having a public restroom relationship.

Thanks for your grasp of the obvious.

Greup @ 44:

Just me at nr 10
As a certified Swede - yes we laugh at you. But mostly at the whole situation. A Gay-basher senator caught in a mens restroom looking for gay sex....yes thats funny. It sort of highlights the american obsession with homosexuality in particular and sex in general. One day we hope you will get real sex education in schools, demystify contraceptives, get your teenage pregnancy rates down, accept people whatever they are sexually, stop bombing abortion clinics, and generally mature in this area.

If only!

In the future, no one will remember Greek tragedies, only American ones.

Greup @ 44:

Just me at nr 10
As a certified Swede - yes we laugh at you. But mostly at the whole situation. A Gay-basher senator caught in a mens restroom looking for gay sex....yes thats funny. It sort of highlights the american obsession with homosexuality in particular and sex in general. One day we hope you will get real sex education in schools, demystify contraceptives, get your teenage pregnancy rates down, accept people whatever they are sexually, stop bombing abortion clinics, and generally mature in this area.

Thank you. I am an American and I hope for the day that we will mature in this area.

Sadly, I don't see it happening any time soon.

If I was Craig, I'd be more than a little bitter at the savage rejection by the GOP, while they suck face with whoremeister Vitter. No spin can cover their hypocrisy.

I can't wait to see if his rethug Senate colleagues give him a standing "O" when they and he return to Congress next week or will they pretend he no longer exists. And why 30 days notice when the Governor is also a rethug and naturally, will appoint a rethug to replace him.

"That's Senator cocksucker to YOU!"

The Boise Depot is for sure a beautiful spot. Even better at sunset when the mountain backdrop turns a reddish brown.

Just Me @ 10:

This is plain stupid. I cannot believe how so-called progressives are licking their chops over this. Hypocricy is one thing; but it's not illegal.

Trolling for sex, to the best of my knowledge, is not against the law. Yet progressives have joined the cons in making this a gay sexual issue.

Just this morning, I heard, on progressive radio, "When it comes to trolling for sex, I draw the line when it happens in public places, straight or gay."

Bullcrap.

Go to any public park on a sunny day (or a beach for that matter) and you'll see straight couples engaged in foreplay. AND in front of the eyes of our precious children.

You don't see this happening with gays because even the sight of two men or two women holding hands in public is "repulsive sex".

There are also pubs and bars, although not considered "public" per se, where trolling for sex is permissible and expected.

The shallowness of the arguments here and elsewhere is appalling. This is strictly a gay issue that the 'cons and the corporate media served up to us in heaping piles, and we couldn't consume it fast enough.

Vitter committed a much more serious crime of paying for sex, and he's applauded.

Craig, however, drops his drawers and taps his foot, and he's skewered.

I don't understand the hypocrisy of Americans in general. We've obsessed on this issue all week. I can only imagine how the Europeans and other nations are laughing at us. Rightly so.

i agree wholeheartedly... i never want to ever hear that recording again where he's explaining how he spreads his legs... what he did, if he actually did engage in some form trolling for sex is entirely irrelevant outside of the fact that he was a hypocritical repuglican senator whom espoused values in opposition to those he indulged in... that alone is enough for him to lose his role as a public servant... the act itself was nothing more than what happens with heterosexuals everywhere, everyday and every minute of every day...

i found myself embarrassed and sorry for the man when i initially heard the recording and increasingly pissed that it was continually rebroadcast everywhere... i'm certainly no fan of the hypocritical rethuglicans and am happy that another hypocrite has been ousted from his throne, but i'm also disappointed in the childishly titulated gloating over the entrapment of someone who's viewed as an opponent being caught doing something everyone engages in but few seem to accept as normal, human interpersonal dynamics... (although, and admittedly not usually with private and subdued gestures within public restrooms but in public gathering places with even more grotesque advances such as one drunken fool i once saw placing his exposed penis on a woman's shoulder)...

Larry Craig's parting statement featured that classic Republican denial of culpability, the Unpology.

Announcing his September 30th resignation, the Idaho GOP Senator artfully avoided accepting accountability for his men's room escapades. Instead, he offered the appearance of apology only for their aftermath:

"I apologize for what I have caused. For any public official at this moment in time to be standing with Larry Craig is in itself a humbling experience. I have little control over what people choose to believe."

Craig's evasion is just the latest example of the Republican art of the unpology. Facing recriminations for ethical failings, racist behavior, sexist statements or outright criminality, this new generation of Republican wrong-doers delivers the facade of apology by uttering obligatory words of remorse devoid of actual regret, contrition - or even an admission of guilt.

For more details, see:
"The Unpology of Larry Craig."

koko @ 26 -

I would have much preferred that he stayed in office and try to fight these bullshit laws in this country. Why the hell are cops running sting operations to catch people in the bathroom? Why shouldn’t gay men be allowed to pick up on each other in a public bathroom?

First, that would be one helluvan about-face fer a Senator who's voted to legislate against gay rights his whole career.

Second, it's not simply pickin' someone up or makin' a date. It was a solicitation to have sex right there in public. Having sex in public is illegal. Straight sex or gay sex.

If my girlfriend and I decided to engage in this behavior in a public restroom and some walked in and overheard us knockin' about, I'd accept the consequences when detained. The thing is, this type of display is quite uncommon between two women or even heterosexual couples(although there's this thing called "dogging" that's gainin' a bit of momentum- do a search fer it).

Finally, think about the transitory nature of these types of trysts. Was Craig, in this instance, stayin' at the Airport Sheraton? No, he was waitin' fer his connectin' flight. Do ya think he was gonna pick someone up, leave the airport, get a room, schtup, then go through the extended boardin' process and still catch his connectin' flight? Do ya? Really?

Just me: You're missing the point. Rather astonishingly.

Moralizing about homesexuality, setting yourself up as a holier-than-thou preacher, then being shown to be secretly engaging in the most furtive and even illegal form of the same thing-- it's the hypocrisy. That word gets overused but that's the real crime here. The couples you see in public aren't railing against others being heterosexual. Bill Clinton wasn't railing against adultery. This clown was setting himself up as a moralist and his moralizing was shown to be utter nonsense. THAT's what matters, to me.

gempei @ 73:

I hope this debacle does not shame Idaho so much that it would cause the demise and disuse of this vintage wordplay:

If Mississippi gave Missouri her New Jersey, what would Delaware? Idaho, Alaska!
(Can't do that with Canadian provinces)

Hoosier dad? Oklahoma-sexual Craig?

I'll bet these guys are going to refrain from sex as long as they can for fear of getting caught. Senators Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and House members David Dreier (R-CA), Jim McCrery (R-LA), Phil English (R-PA), Denny Hastert (R-IL), Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA). All (possible self-hating) gay Republicans.

homosexuals like larry craig are gay

Is it the end of GOP as we know it? Clearly it is time for The Independent Party of America - too liberal to be on the right conservative side and too liberal to be on the left liberal side. That's more or less what America needs. The only alternative is to let the Dems lose and commit political blunders which they do already and let them do it forever so they can keep the status quo, can have the opossition, can have the mirage of US democracy, can't be abandoned and feel alone on the political scene, because this nation has come to exactly such a point. One party an utter travesty, another the enabler of that very erroneous political entity and its highest ranking products including Bush. Beautiful. Ron Paul, Ralph Nader, Gravel and millions of others, the personas non gratas for the DC schmucks, thoughtless think tanks and the gatekeepers namely the media and establishment are getting through to the collective minds, but if need be, I can bet some Dem will expose himself in the public place to let the US be a two party democracy again, let everything get back to normal and be nice and dandy. The good news is, it won't work so the Dems need not to worry. They need not to go there. Let the gay be gay, hypocrites the hypocrites, winners the winners and losers the losers. They can try to be more like the Reps and play with the lever, but this won't f*****g work. The changes are coming. True little revolutions are here already, playing out nicely, almost with sheer perfection.

He's not gay!

steve-

Ron Paul already has an alternative party. It's the Libertarian Party. It' dominated by folks who are to the right of Barry Goldwater and Ayn Rand. Paul was that Party's presidential candidate in 1988.

The problem with yer argument is that while the candidates ya named are considered peripheral, their positions don't jibe. But that's what political parties are all about. They are collectives of people who share philosophies of governance. Bein' percieved as an outsider isn't a political philosophy, though.

Andy K,

I've got no problems with sex in public, prostitution, casual sex, or any combination of those.

I know Craig's a hypocrite, which is exactly why I would want him to about-face and try to fight such legislation. Once Republicans see a hypocrite trying to legalize sex in public, it will immediately be seen by them as acceptable.

As far as Republicans are concerned, there is no better authority then a hypocrite. (Guys dodge Vietnam that latter become war mongers, etc)

Still waiting for Larry Flynt to publish some more names.

Larry Craig was not charged with soliciting sex. He was charged with peeping into a restroom stall and disorderly conduct. He pled guilty to the second charge.

Soliciting sex (gay or straight) isn't illegal unless you ask for or offer money in exchange. Having sex in a public place is a crime, and soliciting to have sex in a public place is a crime as well.

It's not the type of sex or where it is solicited, it's where it is done or is intended to be done that matters.

Many commenters seem to think that it's okay for gay men to have sex in public restrooms, and that it is discrimination to arrest them for doing so.

There's lots more in the bucket of rotting that Craig came from....we can rest assured the repugs will ladel his replacement from that same bucket.

Having sex in a public place is a dicey issue....
Nobody should have to view somebody else's business in a public bathroom like that...
Especially children....
That's why it's illegal...

The way Craig handled his apparent sexuality doesn't obviously help the gay movement...

There are too many people who are homophobic already images of gay people hooking up like this doesn't help...

"we sincerely hope the Senator used his bathroom at home before leaving to make his announcement…"

now there's compassion and understanding....when faced with the intolerant ignorance that Craig and the like demonstrates, meeting it with more intolerance and ignorance is not a solution...just makes the problem worse..

I, for one, hope he is able to find *himself* in all this...he's been hiding it for a long time..

deniz @ 87:

"If my girlfriend and I decided to engage in this behavior in a public restroom and some walked in and overheard us knockin' about, I'd accept the consequences when detained. The thing is, this type of display is quite uncommon between two women or even heterosexual couples(although there's this thing called "dogging" that's gainin' a bit of momentum- do a search fer it)."

Um, have you been to clubs lately? There's a lot of straight sex going on. And there are no raids that I've ever heard of for that behavior. I agree with "Just Me" and "Klunk", with the exception that this is a man who was against everything that he was engaging in. This is a case of justifiable schadenfreude because of the hypocrisy, not the act itself that he was caught doing.

And if the proprietors of those clubs wish to curb this type of behavior they can invite the cops to pay a visit to their private property and have the offenders arrested.

But in Craig's case, the proprietor of the property in which he was operatin' was a public entity. That public entity has laws on its books that it chooses to enforce on its property. Don't like it? Move to Minneapolis and get the law changed, or get the Mayor, the City Council and the Chief of Police changed.

I don't know where people get the idea that they can flaunt any law just because they feel like it. There are consequences fer cruisin' in a public restroom just as there are fer smokin' weed. Do these laws stink? Many of 'em do. But we choose to live in a land of law. We choose to live in a Republic where we elect our representatives democratically. We know what rights and duties we are granted by our Constitution. And we know that we are given a process to change all of these. But, until we do, we can't bitch about the police we employ to do the job we charge them with, as long as they, too, obey those laws.

nothing to rejoice about people

this does not change the balance of power in the senate, nor will it change idahoe's voting patterns

they will remain a red state, and will blame the whole sordid affair on how clinton destroyed the morals of our society

never mind that the repugs (and maybe some dems) have covered for craig since at least the 80s

never mind that the repug party has been proven to be run by moral midgets and that everything this party says it stands for is bullshit

go and see how the repug party would much rather watch the entire economy collapse rather than bail out the idiots who bought into all the mortgage scams....scams that shouldve been illegal in the first place

we are doomed, and this one resignation wont stop that

and my prediction was wrong...i was sure craig would announce he was checking into rehab

steve @ 99:

Andy K @ 84:

steve-

Ron Paul already has an alternative party. It's the Libertarian Party. It' dominated by folks who are to the right of Barry Goldwater and Ayn Rand. Paul was that Party's presidential candidate in 1988.

The problem with yer argument is that while the candidates ya named are considered peripheral, their positions don't jibe. But that's what political parties are all about. They are collectives of people who share philosophies of governance. Bein' percieved as an outsider isn't a political philosophy, though.

Political philosophy? What is that? Just look at the Democratic Party and all the factions and tell me how political philosophy can play any significant role in this day and age, look at how the "Dems" bond together with the President and fellow Republicans, Look at Dean, Lieberman, Harold Ford and Gravel, the Democrats, and tell me what "political philosophy" unites these very people? You can add hundreds more to the pool if you need more time for a thoughtful response and tell me what is wrong with the picture, why people stopped buying it, why the Congress has 18% approval rating, why political philosophies were for the folks who understood the meanings of them, the Greeks, the Romans. How about adding the lobbyists to the pool? Maybe that will clarify the meaning of the modern "political philosophy" for you? Yep, that will do the trick. Hence the revolutions.

There are as may differin' philosophies inside the Democratic Party as there are members. Same can be said of the Republicans. But the parties are made because of the willingness of the members inside of each to compromise on those differences.

So while Nader and Paul might each similarly share "the periphery", do ya think that the guy who made his bones writin' Unsafe At Any Speed can compromise on the role of government oversight of the industrial sector with a guy who belives that there shopuld be no oversight? Seems to me the compromise would end up somewhere in the middle of the political spectrum. And, if that's so, why bother with a new party like you've described?

Don't get me wrong. There should be more parties in this country. But the party you describe is kinda absurd.

Wouldn't his next 30 days be better spent in some sort of right wing gay treatment center getting cured of teh gay instead of taking up space in Congress?

Larry Craig is living proof that Republicans are a party dominated and comprised of smug,vicious hypocritical bigots.
Next.

Uncle Joe

Idaho's voting patterns ARE changing. In 2002, Craig won by about 133,000 votes, Kempthorne won the governor race by about 60,000. In 2006, Otter became governor by about 39,000, and Sali won his Congress race by only about 12,000. the trend is pointing towards a Democratic breakthrough, and Craig's stall tactics can only help.

I was there , IT WAS GREAT ! I got some good pics ( I'll post some soon on my blog) of protesters and the lying fool . At the point where he said " ...I will resign effective blah blah..." I tried to give the "sexy-Whoo-Hoo" whistle , but my mouth was dry so you almost don't hear it on TV but the crowd did and started cheering . Oh yeah , just before he started speaking , this lady behind me yelled " Don't resign Larry ! " , I immediately yelled " DO ! " , she yelled " DON'T ! " , so I yelled back " DO! ,,, OK ?" " throwing up my hands and shrugging in ' I'll keep going as long as you ' to her and she shut-up . As he was getting in his SUV to leave , I was clicking multi-pics and got one of him pushing a camera-man away ! Just before he got in I yelled : " Larry , this is what a Holier-Than-Thou life gets you , caught living a LIE ! " , I had So Much FUN ! I wore my Awol Bush T-shirt (from LegitGov.org) and for a bit , made eye contact with , then stood with my back to Major Garrit (sp?) of Faux Snooze during his break so he could read my shirt and get a taste of in-your-face Blue-Idaho . BTW, Dana Bash of CNN seemed to be in a foul mood , could it have been the younger CNN news woman who ate up all of the air-time?

Dahgrostab'ph-r-i @ 11:

And how did this guy get elected in the first place? he is one of the most boring speakers I have ever heard, he makes Ben Stein sound like he's going pizazz in his voice. Was anyone running against him? and if so what was that person like? A box of hair? did his opponent give all of his speeching while waving dead puppies around? I mean what kind of person could loose a race to this guy? Or was Diebold involved? that's about the only explanation I would buy!!!

This is Idaho where there is one, and only one, qualification for office - that there's an (R) after your name.

I hope Larry Craig will be able to stop lying to himself and his family. Perhaps he will move to the Castro and become part of the community. He will not be safe in Idaho.

BoiseNick @ 110:

I was there , IT WAS GREAT ! I got some good pics...

Did he cry? I just want to see these guys pissed off and crying!!!11!!

I am not resigning, nor have I ever resigned..........
...let me repeat, I am not resigning!!!!!!!!!!

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na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye....

seevee.

ill believe it when i see it

you make it sound like the vote differential means alot, however, you are not taking idahoe's tiny population into account

the new repug party is populated by fools who vote based on some moral code that doesnt exist and against their own best interests

remember....a significant number of these idiots still believe that sadaam had something to do with 9/11, that wmd's were found in iraq, and that bill clinton is the one great satan

they will now stand up and shout to the rafters how they remove the pervs in their midst, while the dems coddle theirs

and they will turn around and elect another corrupt repug in the next election....

you heard it here first

Uncle Joe,

Hope springs eternal baby! I know the population of Idaho (1.3), but the tide's turning. Lots of new folks moving into the state actually have functional grey matter. I'm not saying it's going to happen right now, but the political landscape of the entire Rocky Mountain region is changing, and it is a welcome trend.

Webster @ 12:

Now, repeat after me:

David Vitter, David Vitter, David Vitter...

All GOP "family values" hypocrites need to go.

Bottom line. Vitter is from a state with a Democratic governor. Craig's from a state with a Re-puke gov. It's as simple as that
Also, Vitter isn't up for re-election next year.

The only reason the RepubliCONs urged Craig to resign because Republicans knew they had no chance keeping that Republican seat in 2008. They have 22 seats up-for-grabs for the 2008 elections, while Democrats have only 11. I predict the Republicans lose over half of those seats to Democrats.

miss_kitty @ 116:

BoiseNick @ 110:

I was there , IT WAS GREAT ! I got some good pics...

Did he cry? I just want to see these guys pissed off and crying!!!11!!

I was hopin' but , no tears (for his fears?) from the soon-to-be former Senator . You can see some of his emotions tho , in the pic I took of him pushing the camera-man WITH HIS OWN MICROPHONE ! check it out , , ,

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Ruthless People @ 121:

miss_kitty @ 8:

I'm SHOCKED! I never saw it coming.

Craig was busted before he saw it cumming too.

reminds me of a joke I heard at work the other day :

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What's to "fight"? His own guilty plea? It's sad enough that some folks are driven to impersonal sex in bathrooms but think of the shame to this man and his family. Oh, he'll get retirement but no kushie jobs as a lobbiest, consultant or pundit; no presence on Fox News; no gentle and respected retirement amid the folks back home. No loner Mr. Important. Punishment enough?

This whole thing disgusts me.

Here is a guy that was, or was not, seeking - what? At worse (or best) a blow-job. An idiot (to be sure) with 23 years of public service to his country that wanted to get off. AND, he did, or did not, signal a guy next to him he was, or was not, hot for a bit of hanky panky. For this his homophobic moron Republican friends bury him and we "progressives" laugh.

This guy did nothing wrong. STUPID yes but WRONG no. Should he resign, yes for stupidity. BUT this is a tragedy. It's time the state got our of our bedrooms and washrooms.

If Clinton keeps his pecker in his pants Gore wins, the world TODAY is an almost unrecognizably safer place. American over-reaction to personal sexual behavour has cost the US big time in the past and the horrific over-reaction to this incident shows the country still acts like a six year old child. Grow up.

It is always controversy when a lawmaker or a law enforcer breaks the law. Personally, I couldn't give a hoot about his sexual preference (or orientation). But when you align yourself with the Christian conservatives--who believes gay sex is immoral and have no place in our culture--then you should be under heavy scrutiny for being gay.

I am a native Idahoan and am happy to see Larry Craig leaving office.....It has little to do with if he is gay or not....I dont like the idea that he has proven himself to be a liar.....I am neither democrat or republican.....I do not align with either party....to me both are conglomerate of good, bad and scumbags....that simply is hard to tell the good from the bad....I just hope whom Governor Otter choses for replacement better represents the people of Idaho.....We have a fellow here by the name of John Peavey that would be a wonderful choice and another in Bruce Newcomb....best wishes Governor Otter......

Mylegacy @ 138:

This whole thing disgusts me.

Here is a guy that was, or was not, seeking - what? At worse (or best) a blow-job. An idiot (to be sure) with 23 years of public service to his country that wanted to get off. AND, he did, or did not, signal a guy next to him he was, or was not, hot for a bit of hanky panky. For this his homophobic moron Republican friends bury him and we "progressives" laugh.

This guy did nothing wrong. STUPID yes but WRONG no. Should he resign, yes for stupidity. BUT this is a tragedy. It's time the state got our of our bedrooms and washrooms.

If Clinton keeps his pecker in his pants Gore wins, the world TODAY is an almost unrecognizably safer place. American over-reaction to personal sexual behavour has cost the US big time in the past and the horrific over-reaction to this incident shows the country still acts like a six year old child. Grow up.

EXACTLY!!!!.. thank you :-)

Ok one down but what about David Vitter the hooker screwing hypocritical adulterer who remains in office. I guess adultery is a forgivable sin in the GOP. Family values my ass!

One of two things, the way I see it...

Either - Larry Craig is guilty. And as a former Senator who advocated so-called "family values" laws intent on suppressing the American homosexual community, he got caught by the incredibly efficient, albeit inhumane, system of police procedures he's personally advocated for...

Or - Larry Craig is not guilty. And is one of possibly hundreds, possibly thousands, possibly more - who have been unjustly arrested and detained by an incredibly efficient, albeit inhumane, system of police procedures he's personally advocated for years...

I agree with many posters, including "just-me", that Mr. Craig's actions should not be illegal. It is currently illegal, and I believe should continue to be illegal, to actually engage in consensual sex in a public restroom. I don't want to walk in on that, and I don't want my kid walking in on that. Heterosexual, Homosexual or whatever else...

I don't believe it should be illegal to merely attempt solicit consensual, non-prostitutional sex in a public restroom. Further, it should not be illegal to coincidentally or accidentally project the perception of body language that is sometimes used to initiate discussions which sometimes lead to consensual, non-prostitutional sex - even if said body language occurs in a public restroom.

Nothing Mr. Craig did... should be illegal. What did he do? He tapped his feet. He spread his legs. He cleared his throat. He flashed a wedding ring. THAT'S IT! THIS SHOULDN'T BE ILLEGAL!

Yet it is... because of laws that men like Mr. Craig passed. He and his GOP extremist buddies (like Mark Foley) made their beds, and as far as I'm concerned they can rot in them.

Dotty Gale @ 39:

Ah, now it makes more sense. Craig is staying in Washington until September 30th so that he can transfer his staff.

Or perhaps he wants one more shot (pun intended) in the men's room at Reagan Airport on the public's expense.

Hey. Who pays for their flights when commuting home? Was he having sex on taxpayer's time and money?

I want to feel sympathy for a phony, two-faced liar but....

I can't.

He built the box he's trapped himself in.

Get out of the closet, Larry. Quit stalling. I hear Chorus Line is looking for new tap dancers. Craig out to audition. With that wide stance of his, he's a shoe-in. Tap tap tap.

I hear gay men actually have places where they can meet one another and go to hotels and cool places like that. Who'da thunk?