September 12, 2007 03:17 PM
Countdown: Uh Oh - Frederick Of Hollywood Doesn't Like To Go To Church
On Wednesday's Countdown, Keith Olbermann and The Washington Post's Chris Cillizza discuss what could potentially be a major gaffe in Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson's campaign. It seems Thompson told a group of South Carolina Republicans that he's right with God, but doesn't attend church regularly, except when he visits his mother. He also said that he doesn't want to talk about religion in the campaign -- which will undoubtedly go over like a lead balloon with the far right, evangelical base of the Republican party. I can only imagine Rudy and Mitt will thank the Lord for this little gift...
Halleluia
While I still think he sucks, I'm sort of gaining respect for Hollywood Fred.
what a freaking idiot.
lie, you MORON!!
you're a republican, don't act like it's not second nature to you.
“What he MEANT to say was that even though he doesn’t regularly ATTEND church, he does drive his red pick-up truck around the neighborhoods providing transportation to grey-haired little-old-ladies to the First Baptist. KO was misconstruing the message.” - Fred’s next-ex-campaign manager.
Hmmm, don't think that will fly with the focus on fambly crowd there Freddy but what the hay.....Go on Fred, say something else stupid to piss off your potential target audience... Personally, far as I'm concerned... You can't crash and burn soon enough..........JD
Reagan didn't attend church regularly, yet he was the darling of the religious right. The hypocrites on the right don't care if he sits in a pew as long as he'll toe their ideological line.
Headline joke would work better if his given name wasn't actually "Freddie."
I honestly think the Republican candidate is moot, what you need to keep your eye on is the voting fraud that can still happen, and the news media report of polls, and where do they get them? fiction?
damn heathen!!! tar and feather him and put him on a rail!!!
Bush doesn't go to church except on holidays.
I have a hard time picturing Frederick of Hollywood in a frilly red see-through nighty.
Mayhaps it's my mind trying to preserve my sanity.
He doesn't go to church? Isn't he afraid Ba'al will punish him?
Don't worry. For these guys, finding Jesus is easier than locating the TV remote.
The second the tidal wave of fundie backlash hits he'll flip faster than a flap jack at a sunday morning pancake breakfast.
The guy's an idiot but it's nice to hear someone state the obvious. That religion has nothing to do with any of this. And should have no part in it.
It seems He's really got nothing going for him as a Republican.
Has he done any gay bashing?
How does he expect to separate himself from the pack?
The slogan, "As seen on TV!", seems to be his only platform.
Joementum @ 13:
BaZING!
Hilarious and TRUE.
Joementum @ 13:
Finding Waldo was easier.
Why do so many people want to follow a saviour that keeps gettling lost?
Like almost every guy he hates asking for directions too.
I can only imagine Rudy and Mitt will thank the Lord for this little gift…
Hopefully not like Kathy Griffith.
Maybe Sunday morning is Fred's gay sex time.
Rusty Shackleford @ 19:
Fred's the one who made Ted so Haggard.
Rusty Shackleford @ 19:
That would explain the foot tapping in the confessional.
But we've always been at war with Eastasia.
The rightwing lunatics will spin this as if it's never been a problem if one of their candidates never goes to church, that it's the liberals that make it such a big deal. Once you can manage to swallow the big lie without gagging, the little ones seem like nothing.
MargeAggedon @ 14
That's exactly what is going to happen, and the Christian right will buy it.
No church? And he doesn't like No Child Left Behind?
Thought he would last the month, guessed wrong.
Well, almost refreshing that someone wants to leave religion a personal (i.e. not campaign-worthy) matter. Too bad more candidates, media personalities and bloggers can't do the same.
While I'm not really a big fan of Thompson (and will not be voting for him), I do have to respect this move.
Everyone can go back to the gay jokes and other intelligent discussion now...
reagan didnt go to church regularly either
but he is god, so i guess he didnt need to
i think this is a non story, inasmuch as the repugs are scrambling to rekindle the reagan flame, and they see thompson as their saviour
as long as hillary doesnt win the nom, it doesnt matter who the repugs put up....the dems are gonna have a landslide
not that they deserve it
So, Fred doesn't go to Church except when he visits his mother? What does his mother do, make him go with her? I bet that is a riot. I can just hear it now from his mother in Church: "Now Freddie, quit crying and sit in the pew. There is a good little boy and quit picking your nose in public!"
I too have no problem with Fred's church attendance. But then I got tossed out of Church when I was age 13, for asking questions, and told there was no redemption for me ever, and that I'd burn in the fires of hell for all eternity. So I'm only in churches at weddings, funerals and when invited by friends or family. It has been six years since I've been in a church.
But this isn't about me or what I believe. This is about Fred trying to get votes in a political party that thrives on hypocrisy. He should lie dammit! Just say you're too busy helping to deliver bibles to the needy to have time to actually spend in a church!
Never stopped the religious right from making GWB their darling.
Swarzebozo in California got elected as a Republican even though he's anything but a personal morals kind of guy. The Republicans don't give a damn about that crap, they only care about power. If the Republicans could better their chances of getting elected by torturing puppies, they'd torture puppies.
Smack_dab @ 30:
How about the wife of the Republican? http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn04072007.html
Weaseldog @ 28:
I saw an article this morning about Thompson having a rare type of cancer that is in remission -- BUT that it is uncurable and ultimately fatal. According to the article he has just a few years. Here's the article in the Sacramento Bee:
Thompson's illness is slow, serious
By Robert S. Boyd - McClatchy Washington Bureau
Published 12:00 am PDT Thursday, September 13, 2007
Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson has a rare type of cancer that specialists say is incurable but not life-threatening over the short term.
Although the 65-year-old former senator and actor says his disease is in remission, studies of other cases indicate that it's likely to return within the next two to five years.
But cancer experts say his malignancy -- a slow-growing disruption of the immune system known as non-Hodgkin's lymphoma -- can be well managed with drugs and needn't interfere with normal activities.
They say Thompson has an excellent chance of survival for at least five to 10 years, based on the experiences of other patients reported in medical journals.
"My understanding is you can expect to live a normal life expectancy," Thompson said Sunday on his campaign bus. But he acknowledged that "it's something that is always potentially there."
Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma is a type of cancer that begins in the cells of the lymph system, a complex network of specialized cells whose task is to detect and destroy invading microbes.
For unknown reasons, some lymph cells occasionally run amok, traveling through the body and forming cancerous lumps that interfere with the immune system.
Sometimes these unruly cells grow rapidly, causing an "aggressive" non-Hodgkin's lymphoma that's often fatal. Sometimes the growth is slow, leading to a case of "indolent," or painless, lymphoma. This is the kind that Thompson has.
The American Cancer Society estimates that 63,130 Americans will be diagnosed with non-Hodgkin's lymphoma this year, and 18,660 deaths will occur. Of the new cases, 81 percent of the patients will be alive after one year, 63 percent after five years and 49 percent will survive for at least 10 years.
Thanks to improvements in treatment, patients are surviving longer than they used to. The five-year expected survival rate of 63 percent is up from 48 percent 30 years ago.
Scientists have found at least 30 varieties of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, some more lethal than others. Thompson's disease is a relatively rare type -- a marginal zone lymphoma, or MZL -- that's a subclass of the slow-growing indolent lymphomas.
Indolent lymphomas have a much better prognosis than fast-growing aggressive lymphomas, but they're hard to clear completely from a patient's body.
"Indolent lymphomas such as MZL are almost incurable," Dr. David Weissmann, a pathologist and lymphoma expert at Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital in New Brunswick, N.J., said in an e-mail message. "The good (?) news is that they take a long time to kill a patient. The bad news is that there is almost no hope of a permanent cure."
Thompson's cancer was detected in 2004, as a lump in his neck. It later spread to other areas. His doctor prescribed a new drug, Rituxan, which drove the disease into remission.
http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/376419.html
larry @ 33:
Now *that's* interesting, Larry!
not to worry thompson, not to worry at all.
the far christian right no longer cares about the issues that they berated the democrats with for the past several decades. the far "christian" right really made people bow down before their alter of freedom reduction, rampant discrimination and hate breeding.
but now, they seem to have put all those "christian" ethos (as they see it) on the back burner and their sole interest now is to ensure that america transitions from a democratic republic to a neofascist military empire, and they will support anyone willing to continue this trend to its bloody conclusion.
in other words,
you are still in hollywood fred.
(you too, mccain, romney, rudy. they haven't missed out on your totalitarian/authoritarian/militant leanings, and they like it. a lot.)
This will have to go down in history as one of the biggest political "jokes" of all time. This bloodhound mug dufus hasn't said anything of substance..and he is already tied with the other dead beats on the stage. Too funny for words.
Honest to God...he doesn't want to talk about religion, his domineering wife, or anything that he can't explain away to the religious right. This guy is too funny. Put a whole stage of these "drawl good 'ol boys" up on the stage. They'll always get 30% of the repug vote, cause they simply are red necks and don't have the brains of an ant.
Go freddy the lazy bastard sleep-till-noon red neck. They love ya!!
I knew someone who had non-Hodgkins lymphoma which he died from. He was a very inauthentic man with a humongous load of unexpressed rage toward his family of origin.
Just sayin'. Isn't that also what Jackie Onassis died from?
the religious wrong always needs a daddy. Freddie in 08, Betray us in 12
Ahhh...it makes perfect sense now! "Frederick of Hollywood" is where old windbag Freddie found his little plastic wifey-poo. She was modeling their sleazy stuff.
JudyLou @ 37:
I'd say they're keeping Freddie's cancer under wraps at the moment - just like McCain's. McCain may not have the 4 years he's running for with the type of cancer he has.
You know what I hate? I hate how they are always talking about campaign strategies and "how will this effect his chances of winning?" as opposed to talking about issues and the candidates stances on those issues. As opposed to talking about qualifications and whether or not the candidate would make a good president.
So Old Dog Face won't pander to the religiously insane, and pretend he's practically a Deacon in the church he doesn't attend? I approve. It is like a fresh breeze compared to Bush's tired, phony religiousity.
Dubya, before his first run for office was supposedly "saved" by none other than the Rev. Billy Graham himself (big bucks changed hands there), and somehow without joining a congregation and without religious instruction has claimed a special realtionship with God. Dubya has gone as far as to claim God "told" him who to kill, how rich people need tax breaks, while poor people don't get a minimum wage increase, and that America is His chosen nation. And, the Rubes and Hayseeds buy into it.
How desperate are they? Thompson looks like he's gonna croak any minute.
Oops. He's done.
Freddy is a dreamer.
I commend him for not cowing to the religious. It's ok to say you don't go to church, ya know.
I know it's cool to celebrate gaffes on the other side, but I actually applaud him for having a bravery I've not seen anywhere on either side of this election campaign process.
American politics SHOULD be more secular, or at the very least they should respect the beliefs of candidates as a private affair.
His mother is still alive? He looks to be about 85. What is she, 115 years old??
I agree ith the joke going 'round about Frankenberry:
He's not gonna run in '08. He's gonna mosey
Good for him. The only candidate who tells the truth about how many times he goes to church.
The other mooks, D & R, probably go to church as much as he does. Besides who cares I'm not voting for a Pope or Mullah, I'm voting for a president.
Fred's distant acquaintance with Baby Jesus is cancelled out by the religious hypocrisy of his opponents.
Rudy is the world's worst Catholic. Romney's Mormonism is sincere, but he's a pro-choicer from way back. And when the campaign heats up, lots of folks will be taking a hard look at the loony beliefs Mormons hold. Should be lots of fun.
Isn't it ironic that Hillary's a better Christian than any of them?
Although I wouldn't ever vote for him. I respect him for saying this. But he'll likely change his tune.
Annoyed Canuck @ 51:
No shit. My eldest son just married a kinda' ex-Mormon (she now can’t make up her mind after being pressured by friends and family). They are some really strange people with bizarre beliefs.
ONLY MORMONS CAN GO TO HEAVEN … That should go over great with the bible thumping Pat Robertson crowd.
RIGHT AFTER HIS CRUCIFIXION CHRIST FLEW ALL OVER THE EARTH LOOKING FOR THE PERFECT PLACE FOR THE MORMONS TO CALL THEIR HOME. JC found the best place was in the western US in the Utah, Colorado, Wyoming area. Then, he got back just in time for Easter.
If a Mormon is really, really, really good they won’t go to heaven – they will become a God on some planet in a far distant Galaxy.
If you want to see more visit this site. - http://www.exmormon.org/
Please, be respectful. They were raised Mormon and are trying to get out. I respect their courage to flee. Remember … we can pick our friends, but, not our roots.
Yesterday, my son and his wife got invited to a wedding (I believe Mormons call it a SEALING) at the big Cathedral in Salt Lake City. I found out that not only would my son not be allowed into the Cathedral (he’d have to wait in the parking lot till the service was over. But, he can throw rice at them as the come out) But, even his wife would not be allowed into the Cathedral either (even though she’s a life long Mormon) because she hasn’t received a security clearance from the Salt Lake City Chapter.
The more I read about them the more they scare me.
"And on the first day of Viagra, Fred Thompson had a four hour woody, his other bald head turned purple as well, and his trophy wife called 911."
-- Book of Boehner 1:6
Isn't that just special.
I'm too lazy to read all the comments, so I don't know if this has been pointed out, but Bush doesn't attend church often, either.
pol @ 56:
Bush would attend church, if they were serving dead babies.
Remember, being a republican exempts you from proving certain obligations.
Honesty, loyalty, hetrosexuality, christianity and like.
You do not have to prove it. You are part of the master party.
o/c that does not apply to the other party.
We are acting more and more like the Muslims. This country was founded so we can have freedom of religion and choices.
Quagmirist @ 53:
Not to disagree with your assessment, but, I don't find that any loonier than any other religion out there.
Yep. My brother was the best man at one of his Mormon friend's wedding, and he still wasn't allowed in for the ceremony.
I know this thread has passed, but Mormons don't believe only they go to heaven. They believe most people will end up in heaven. However, they three tier it. The lowest level of heaven of non believers, a middle tier of people who believe incorrectly, and a top tier reserved for Mormons. The rub is that only those in the top tier will go palsy-walsy with the Big Kahuna.
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