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The Iraqi government said Monday that it was pulling the license of an American security firm allegedly involved in the fatal shooting of civilians during an attack on a U.S. State Department motorcade in Baghdad.

The Interior Ministry said it would prosecute any foreign contractors found to have used excessive force in the Sunday shooting. It was latest accusation against the U.S.-contracted firms that operate with little or no supervision and are widely disliked by Iraqis who resent their speeding motorcades and forceful behavior.

Interior Ministry spokesman Abdul-Karim Khalaf said eight civilians were killed and 13 were wounded when security contractors believed to be working for Blackwater USA opened fire in a predominantly Sunni neighborhood of western Baghdad.

"We have canceled the license of Blackwater and prevented them from working all over Iraqi territory. We will also refer those involved to Iraqi judicial authorities," Khalaf said. Read more...

Larry Johnson:

First problem. Blackwater does not have a license to operate in Iraq and does not need one. They have a U.S. State Department contract through Diplomatic Security. Instead of using Diplomatic Security officers or hiring new Security officers or relying on U.S. military personnel, the Bush Administration has contracted with firms like Blackwater, Triple Canopy, and others for people capable of conducting personnel security details. State Department is not about to curtail the contract with Blackwater, who is tightly wired into Washington. Plus, State Department simply does not have the bodies available to carry out the security mission.

Second problem. The Iraqi government has zero power to enforce a decision to oust a firm like Blackwater. [..]This incident will enrage Iraqis and their subsequent realization that they are impotent to do anything about it will do little to support the fantasy that the surge is working. There are some Iraqis who genuinely want to run their own country. But we are not about to give them the keys to the car. Blackwater is staying.

USA Today looks at what happened that day in Fallujah.  Meanwhile, a Blackwater exec is jumping ship to find his way to the Romney campaign. And author Jeremy Scahill talks with NPR about his book, Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army.

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SHUT THESE EVIL BASTARDS DOWN!!

My guess is that the Shia militias and Sunni revolutionaries will be actively looking for Blackwater contractors. Gunfight, prisoners, torture, beheadings.

Looks like the first "troops" Bush and Cheney will be bringing home.

Blackwater USA is a private military company and security firm. Founded in 1997 by Erik Prince and Al Clark, it is based in the U.S. state of North Carolina where it operates a tactical training facility which it claims is the world's largest. The company trains more than 40,000 people a year, from all the military services and a variety of other agencies. The company markets itself as being "The most comprehensive professional military, law enforcement, security, peacekeeping, and stability operations company in the world". At least 90% of its revenue comes from government contracts, two-thirds of which are no-bid contracts.[

A murdering exec working for the mighty varmint killer....perfect.

It's cute how the Iraqis think they're running their own country.

I think our puppets in Iraq would be more accurately described as the Iraqi "government".

Good thing we turned over sovereignty to this democratic country!! Remember the purple fingers? yeah, thought that was a nice photo op.

Now here is something ALL THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ can really agree on....and the hunt is now VERY "UP" INDEED...
(WHO WOULDA THUNK IT?)
The BUSHIST SELL-SWORDS deserve anything the NATIVE OWNERS OF IRAQ DECIDE TO DEAL THEM...After all, this is the BUSH/CHENEY/LIEBERMAN WAR OF BLOOD FOR OIL, IS IT NOT?

HAHA. This is a joke right? If the contractors weren't allowed in Iraq there wouldn't be a war. Unfortunatly, Blackwater will stay and thrive, the owner is a "Christian" and a friend of GWB.

Why do the Iraqis hate America and Freedom™? What's good for Blackwater is good for America. What's good for America is good for Freedom™.

Crap. I thought we were fighting Blackwater there so we didn't have to fight them here. No?

L.A. Confidential @ 5:

Blackwater USA is a private military company and security firm. Founded in 1997 by Erik Prince and Al Clark, it is based in the U.S. state of North Carolina where it operates a tactical training facility which it claims is the world's largest. The company trains more than 40,000 people a year, from all the military services and a variety of other agencies. The company markets itself as being "The most comprehensive professional military, law enforcement, security, peacekeeping, and stability operations company in the world". At least 90% of its revenue comes from government contracts, two-thirds of which are no-bid contracts.[

Blackwater = Al Quaeda/Islamic Jihad/Hamas/Hezbollah, etc...

Plus there was a woman on tv today who is writing a book about blackwater and she said Bremmer, when he turned over the keys to the Iraqi govt, put in a provision that Iraqis cannot criminally charge any American contractor with anything.

I wouldn't want to be one of those guys over there now, I don't give a damn how many fortunes they are making.

A private military company (PMC) is a for-profit enterprise, sometimes a corporation or a limited liability partnership, which provides specialized services and expertise related to military and similar activities.[1] Such companies are equally known as Private Military Corporations, Private Military Firms, Military Service Providers, and generally as the Private Military Industry.

U.S. companies

* 3D Global Solutions (Website)[24]
* Aedion
* Alpha Point Security (Website) Armed Security, UAV-Intelligence (ISR) and Consulting... defense against piracy, terrorists and rebels.
* AirScan
* AQMI Strategy Corp
* Blackwater USA (Website)
* Braddock Dunn & McDonald (BDM) long-established defense contractor purchased in mid-1990s by TRW and onsold to Northrop Grumman in December 2002
* C3 Defense, Inc. (Website)
* CACI - California Analysis Center, Incorporated
* Critical Intervention Services paramilitary Security Agency based out of Clearwater, Fl.
* Custer Battles
* Berodt Dynamics, Defence contractor from Iowa
* Defensecurity (Website) Defense Security Training Service Corporation
* Defion Internacional, (Website)
* DynCorp, (Website)
* Eastern Cross
* Elite Security Corps
* ITT Corporation
* ISCS International
* International Security Instructors, (Website)
* Kellogg Brown and Root - Division of Halliburton
* Landmine Sourcing - Global PMC Recruiters (Website)
* Military Professional Resources Inc. (MPRI) (Website)
* ManTech International Corporation
* Northbridge Services Group
* Northrop Grumman
* Overwatch Protection Solutions International, (Website)
* Paratus World Wide Protection, (Website)
* Ronin Worldwide Executive Protection, LLC, (Website)
* Raytheon
* SCG International Risk (Website)
* Sharp End International (Website) - who use mainly Australian and New Zealand ex-special forces instructors
* SkyLink USA, affiliated with SkyLink Aviation [25]
* SOS Temps, Inc founded by former Navy Seal Richard Marcinko.
* Spartan Consulting Group (Website)3
* Tactical Response Services paramilitary Security Agency based out of Tampa, Fl.
* Titan Corporation
* Top Cat Marine Security (Website)
* Triple Canopy, Inc. (Website)
* Vinnell Corporation
* VIP Investigations & Protective Services Inc. (Website)
* EUBSA BV Inc. STOP units - Special Tactics and OPerations (Website)
* Pathfinder Security Services

"Armed Madhouse"

Yousta be the only ones to really face charges we're those who sat on Ol' Sparky's lap.

I never understood why when the people in Iraq were risking their lives to vote, why we would want to mark their hands with purple ink. Didn't that make their lives more in danger by wearing basically a sign that said they voted?

L.A. Confidential @ 5:

Blackwater USA is a private military company and security firm. Founded in 1997 by Erik Prince and Al Clark, it is based in the U.S. state of North Carolina where it operates a tactical training facility which it claims is the world's largest. The company trains more than 40,000 people a year, from all the military services and a variety of other agencies. The company markets itself as being "The most comprehensive professional military, law enforcement, security, peacekeeping, and stability operations company in the world". At least 90% of its revenue comes from government contracts, two-thirds of which are no-bid contracts.[

Before the war started our "leaders" were quick to pass laws to protect themselves and their corporate criminals. It was going to be a free for all (warprofiteering, etc.) literally, and they knew it.

From the AP:
"The question of whether they could face prosecution is legally murky. Unlike soldiers, the contractors are not bound by the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Under a special provision secured by American-occupying forces, they are exempt from prosecution by Iraqis for crimes committed there."
'exempt' , like in; allowing those murdering thugs to act in our behalf.

I think this is reason #114 why they hate us...

Well, the Iraqis are learning..."With friends like Bushco, who needs enemies."

Leave it to Republicans to Privatize the Military.

No wonder they are trying so hard to drown our Military in the bathtub known as Iraq.

Meanwhile, a Blackwater exec is jumping ship to find his way to the Romney campaign.

AHA! So Romney *is* going to be the Repub nominee. They must not think too highly of Fred and McCain has gone down in flames for the second time in his life.

BushCo must be scrambling to get into Mitt's camp. Looks like they've bet on all the wrong horses this time around. No doubt more tears from Poppy will be forthcoming as he realizes he's got no horse in the race. (Romney doesn't strike me as the type to bend over for Skull & Bones WASPs...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Prince

He now runs Prince Group, Blackwater's parent company, from an office in McLean, Virginia and also serves as a board member of Christian Freedom International, a nonprofit group with a mission of helping "Christians who are persecuted for their faith in Jesus Christ".

If you read more about this guy and others you will find that they are very much like that Knight's templars. They look Christian on the outside but they are devil's on the inside.

I'm a believer in the christian faith but people like this highjack the faith and are nothing more that Jeusuit "soldiers of Christ" scum.

enor @ 20:

Before the war started our "leaders" were quick to pass laws to protect themselves and their corporate criminals. It was going to be a free for all (warprofiteering, etc.) literally, and they knew it.

From the AP:
"The question of whether they could face prosecution is legally murky. Unlike soldiers, the contractors are not bound by the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Under a special provision secured by American-occupying forces, they are exempt from prosecution by Iraqis for crimes committed there."
'exempt' , like in; allowing those murdering thugs to act in our behalf.

I think this is reason #114 why they hate us...

Maybe this is why 1994 Cheney wasn't so eager to take over Iraq.

Oh look, it's Varth Dader!

If Blackwater is smart, they will get the hell out of there....otherwise it will be a bloodbath for them.

pissed off patricia @ 19:

I never understood why when the people in Iraq were risking their lives to vote, why we would want to mark their hands with purple ink. Didn't that make their lives more in danger by wearing basically a sign that said they voted?

It's simple, really -- all for a photo op!

I hope the Iraqis can pull this off and are not stomped down by the Bush administration. Blackwater, what a sinister name.

Can we stop spinning their job titles, please?
They are mercernaries.
Let's refer to them as such.

Perhaps a solution to this whole mess has been revealed. IF the Iraqi gov't is truly a democratic sovereign nation, they can change the law that does not allow the Iraqi gov't to prosecute firms like Blackwater. Once this happens those companies will want to get out of Iraq ASAP otherwise they will find themselves in jail (Iraqi jails...). Once the contractors start pulling out in force the US military will not be far behind (especially if the Iraqi gov't also makes the US military legally responsible for any illegal activities that they perpetrate).

Now that would be a show of democracy in the Middle East. Get the US out of Iraq through democratic means...how could we complain, we'ren't we there promoting "democracy"?

ellen @ 27:

If Blackwater is smart, they will get the hell out of there....otherwise it will be a bloodbath for them.

http://www.spawn.com/toys/horror/monsters3/elizabeth/images/monsters3_el...

Dr. Acula @ 28:

pissed off patricia @ 19:

I never understood why when the people in Iraq were risking their lives to vote, why we would want to mark their hands with purple ink. Didn't that make their lives more in danger by wearing basically a sign that said they voted?

It's simple, really -- all for a photo op!

That wasn't purple ink, they signed our contract in blood.

Blue Buddha @ 25:

enor @ 20:

Before the war started our "leaders" were quick to pass laws to protect themselves and their corporate criminals. It was going to be a free for all (warprofiteering, etc.) literally, and they knew it.

From the AP:
"The question of whether they could face prosecution is legally murky. Unlike soldiers, the contractors are not bound by the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Under a special provision secured by American-occupying forces, they are exempt from prosecution by Iraqis for crimes committed there."
'exempt' , like in; allowing those murdering thugs to act in our behalf.

I think this is reason #114 why they hate us...

Maybe this is why 1994 Cheney wasn't so eager to take over Iraq.

"Enemy combatants" are not protected by the Geneva Conventions...that statement cuts BOTH ways.

The Iraqis should send their forces to arrest these Blackwater people.

If they find violent resistance, they should shoot them.

After all, Iraq is a 'sovereign' nation, is it not? Shouldn't they have the right to enforce the law?

Give me a break...

Besides what Larry Johnson said.

All they have to do is change their name...

How many mercenary firms are working in IRAQ?...

Black water is not the only one .. by a long shot.

pissed off patricia @ 15:

Plus there was a woman on tv today who is writing a book about blackwater and she said Bremmer, when he turned over the keys to the Iraqi govt, put in a provision that Iraqis cannot criminally charge any American contractor with anything.

Exactly, Paul Bremer, who bush sent to Iraq to be in charge of the CPA(Coialition
Provsional Authority) screwed up things from day one; the two major screw-ups
being disbanding the Iraqis military/police force and encouraging the "no-bid"
contracts for Blackwater "security forces"...and as a side note, telling the people
of Iraq how to establish a democratic government...NOT giving assistance in the
proper way to set up a government for the people, but dictating/telling them how
to do so...which is precisely the reason there are soooooo many problems within
the Iraq government today. And don't forget, bush hung a Presidental Medal of
Freedom around Bremer's neck when he returned to States. Sickening...

Any taxpayer who hasn't seen Robert Greenwald's excellent documentary, Iraq For Sale: The War Profiteers, should see it immediately.

It's got lots of explosive info, not only on Blackwater, but also on KBR and the translation firm CACI.

ysbaddaden @ 32:

ellen @ 27:

If Blackwater is smart, they will get the hell out of there....otherwise it will be a bloodbath for them.

http://www.spawn.com/toys/horror/monsters3/elizabeth/images/monsters3_elizabeth_photo_04_dp.jpg

WARNING -- extremely graphic photo!

http://judicial-inc.biz/Blackw20.jpg

Once the military privatized government sponsored MURDER organizations, they introduced a whole new level of uncontrolled chaos into the picture. It was bad enough that we sent our military in for what amounted to be nothing more than an academic strategy to secure oil deals for corporations with close ties to the bush administration, but now we have nothing less than an SS hit squad that has been reprimanded NOT by our own government, but by the newly installed Iraqi government. WE ARE FASCISTS.... WELCOME TO BUSHLAND!

ysbaddaden @ 26:

Oh look, it's Varth Dader!

Use the farce, Luke.

Mikey @ 13:

Crap. I thought we were fighting Blackwater there so we didn't have to fight them here. No?

That's funny right there.

Blackwater... Deeper Into Shadow

Having them essentially indicted for murder and declared persona non grata is going to be a major political and diplomatic embarrassment in its own right, but keeping them there thumbing their nose at a murder investigation as Johnson suggests would be infamous worldwide. Sure, the administration can trust the US media to keep a lid on any story that might embarrass them, but the BBC and other international media won't be so compliant.

Then again, that would be reality. Which is demonstrated to have little influence on the actions of loyal Bushies.

If we can't impeach, can we send Bush and Cheney to the Hague for war crimes? This has to be a violation of international law, and that would mean that being tried in the Hague would superceede waiting for Bush to finish his term, wouldn't it?

CALLIN' ALL LEGAL EAGLES to answer these questions!!!!!

If anything this Blackwater incident will prove that Iraq's government is not the sovereign entity that the administration wants us to believe it is. So they've banned Blackwater, how are they going to enforce that? They can't prosecute them. They don't even have command and control over their own army.

This Iraqi government exists for the sole purpose of legitimizing the American agenda. We want them to sign the oil bill so we have what appears to be legal access to their oil for the next 30 year. Now we want them to sign an agreement that would allow us a military presence for the foreseeable future. It's not exactly a puppet government, but it's a convenient government, given just enough sovereignty to make everything we do appear to be legal.

Wow.. I thought the question up ... and walked away before posting.. LA Confidential answered it.

Friggen awesome.. Thank you LA Confidential.

Ridleyculous @ 30:

Can we stop spinning their job titles, please?
They are mercernaries.
Let's refer to them as such.

mercenary adjective derogatory; (of a person or their behavior) primarily concerned with making money at the expense of ethics.

'No ethics?'

hit man, noun, informal; a person who is paid to kill someone, esp. for a criminal or political organization.

Hmm?

There's an old truism in the military that goes a little like this, "if you can't make it in civilian life, you can probably make it in the military."

I would like to add to that, "and if you can't make it in the military, you can probably make it as a madman mercenary."

Invaded countries rarely have much sway over what the occupying force does.

three words for blackwater:

ha fucking ha

serves these war profiteering, mercenaries right. you privatize war and you get companies like blackwater. you put a profit motive into deadly combat and you get a society headed for collapse.

of course, i think it would be naive to assume that the iraqi govt can order blackwater to do anything. either the bush admin will blow off the iraq declaration, or, choosing to play it safe, they will ask blackwater to conduct their war profiteering and kill-for-money business in another part of the world.

of all the reprehensible businesses out there i put blackwater, and the other mercenary/merchants of death contractors, at the top of the shit heap. disgusting and dangerous.

privatizing war leads only to more war and a 'business interest' to settle problems with deadly force (like we already do).

also to consider:
blackwater is buying combat fighters and will soon have air power.

feel safer yet?

it is only a matter of time 'til the rightwing tries to privatize the entire armed forces and domestic law enforcement, it is the inevitable next step.

Carmikl @ 45:

... it's a convenient government, given just enough sovereignty to make everything we do appear to be legal.

A sovereign government would be a great thing here, too. But we also have a fascist military occupation.

The Iraqi gov't, like ours, seems to exist only for the purpose of scaring their citizens out of their money and providing scant, if any, services in return.

Rusty Shackleford @ 7:

It's cute how the Iraqis think they're running their own country.

Just like it's cute we think we're running ours.....

It's a fact that pit vipers, such as cottonmouths, lurk in blackwater swamps.

I'm predicting more charred bodies hanging from bridges.

They dont need no steenkin' license ... Bremmer guranteed that on the day he ran out of Baghdad.

Colin Powell, despite his awareness of domestic negligence the people at home....has this surprising simplistic view of Blackwater. He thinks they're like a temporary army hired by AppleOne. As if he truly doesn't realize this monster in the closet.

Considering Blackwater's frenzied land buys in multiple townships in many states, wouldn't be a bad idea to consider some old-fashioned self-protection, capice`?

casper46 @ 55:

I'm predicting more charred bodies hanging from bridges.

In Iraq?

testing 1,2,3...

Badges? We Don’t Have No Stinking Badges

The Iraqi government said today that it would revoke the license of the private security firm BlackwaterUSA, due to the reckless actions of its employees. Blackwater is is been know for supplying the contractors who were killed in Fallujah — an e...

Liberal AND Proud @ 58:

casper46 @ 55:

I'm predicting more charred bodies hanging from bridges.

In Iraq?

Well, when i wrote it I was thinking about Iraq. But now you have me re-thinking my thinking.lol

The Iraqis resent American cowboys? Even in Western Baghdad?? Wow! Maybe they are finally going to 'step up' and take their country back. It is time. Everyone is ready for Iraqis to start owning their own country....except for G.W. and the oil companies. They don't legally control the oil yet you see, for some reason the Iraqis are dragging their feet over giving Big Oil ownership of Iraqi oil.

Coming real soon to a corner by you: a guy in camouflaged fatigues, helmet and M-16 rifle. Got papers?

Amazing. The Iraqi "government" can't agree on much of anything, is prone to in-fighting and takes extended vacations, but the one thing they can come together on is attempting (however futile) to ban a mercenary army from operating in their country. For that they'll put down sectarian differences.

steve @ 62:

The Iraqis resent American cowboys? Even in Western Baghdad?? Wow! Maybe they are finally going to 'step up' and take their country back. It is time. Everyone is ready for Iraqis to start owning their own country....except for G.W. and the oil companies. They don't legally control the oil yet you see, for some reason the Iraqis are dragging their feet over giving Big Oil ownership of Iraqi oil.

Never use the name George Bush in the same paragraph as "cowboys" or "cowboy". GW Bush is a drugstore cowboy.

Liberal AND Proud @ 65:

steve @ 62:

The Iraqis resent American cowboys? Even in Western Baghdad?? Wow! Maybe they are finally going to 'step up' and take their country back. It is time. Everyone is ready for Iraqis to start owning their own country....except for G.W. and the oil companies. They don't legally control the oil yet you see, for some reason the Iraqis are dragging their feet over giving Big Oil ownership of Iraqi oil.

Never use the name George Bush in the same paragraph as "cowboys" or "cowboy". GW Bush is a drugstore cowboy.

Are you sure about that?..thought it was "drugstore soda JERK"..and that's being polite.

I believe Rice and the state department just requested BW leave Iraq.

Blackwater exists only because they have funding and lots of it. Congress could fix this shit in a heartbeat. Cut off their funding and the mecenaries will go back to their sink hole.

William Wallace @ 53:

Rusty Shackleford @ 7:

It's cute how the Iraqis think they're running their own country.

Just like it's cute we think we're running ours.....

Best. Response. Ever.

I believe what Larry Johnson says, but if the Iraqis cannot kick Blackwater out, what happened to the sovereignty of their country? What a frgn' mess that country is in. Way to go, bush.

Mikey @ 13:

Crap. I thought we were fighting Blackwater there so we didn't have to fight them here. No?

They were already used in NOLA. http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/091005A.shtml

anon @ 67:

I believe Rice and the state department just requested BW leave Iraq.

Are you kidding? Or did you actually see/read this somewhere? According to that
lady representative from Illinois(Jan. S......), she said there were somewhere between
20K and 22K Blackwater mercenaries in Iraq..

Just a thought. I wonder if there has been any tampering with the Blackwater entry over at wikipedia. Hmmm...

Blackwater -- are they the REAL "jackbooted thugs" the reichwingers loved to excoriate during the Clinton years????

Doggiebobo @ 72:

anon @ 67:

I believe Rice and the state department just requested BW leave Iraq.

Are you kidding? Or did you actually see/read this somewhere? According to that
lady representative from Illinois(Jan. S......), she said there were somewhere between
20K and 22K Blackwater mercenaries in Iraq..

I was listening to novam (kphx stream) - which feeds airamerica programming and heard a news piece during a break. I believe I heard them say Rice and state made the request.

We'll see when it either does or doesnt hit print in a day or so.

anon @ 75:

Doggiebobo @ 72:

anon @ 67:

I believe Rice and the state department just requested BW leave Iraq.

Are you kidding? Or did you actually see/read this somewhere? According to that
lady representative from Illinois(Jan. S......), she said there were somewhere between
20K and 22K Blackwater mercenaries in Iraq..

I was listening to novam (kphx stream) - which feeds airamerica programming and heard a news piece during a break. I believe I heard them say Rice and state made the request.

We'll see when it either does or doesnt hit print in a day or so.

Well, if C. Rice is allegedly one of the sources, she probably was confused and was
talking about Blackberry jam not being permitted in Iraq...or maybe Blueberry punch.

or maybe they're banning blackberries in iraq.

These are the crazed murderous bastards that will be shooting at us here in the USA when the Iraqis unite to drive them out.
I shit you not.

Dr. Acula @ 77:

or maybe they're banning blackberries in iraq.

Well we know for a fact/certainty, it's not poppies in Afghan..

General Jack D. Ripper @ 70:

I believe what Larry Johnson says, but if the Iraqis cannot kick Blackwater out, what happened to the sovereignty of their country? What a frgn' mess that country is in. Way to go, bush.

the sovereignty of iraq is another white house spin job. they are not a sovereign nation.

Doggiebobo @ 76:

anon @ 75:

Doggiebobo @ 72:

anon @ 67:
Are you kidding? Or did you actually see/read this somewhere? According to that
lady representative from Illinois(Jan. S......), she said there were somewhere between
20K and 22K Blackwater mercenaries in Iraq..

I was listening to novam (kphx stream) - which feeds airamerica programming and heard a news piece during a break. I believe I heard them say Rice and state made the request.

We'll see when it either does or doesnt hit print in a day or so.

Well, if C. Rice is allegedly one of the sources, she probably was confused and was
talking about Blackberry jam not being permitted in Iraq...or maybe Blueberry punch.

There is more here than meets the eye. Iraq is shia (kurdistan is not Iraq), as was the government. With the withdrawal of Al Sadr, Malachi is left abandoned and illegitimate as a shia leader. Blackwater killed sunni (as I understand it) in a gun battle. What are the consequences of an ostensible leader who is shia not prosecuting killers of sunnis? .. or prosecuting? This means something beyond the deaths of 8 sunnis. Rice would be involved right away as the attack was against her team in Iraq. I'm sure she takes that personally.

Doggiebobo @ 79:

Dr. Acula @ 77:

or maybe they're banning blackberries in iraq.

Well we know for a fact/certainty, it's not poppies in Afghan..

Well of course they banned blackwater. Don't our troops deserve clean drinking water?

anon @ 75:

Doggiebobo @ 72:

anon @ 67:

I believe Rice and the state department just requested BW leave Iraq.

Are you kidding? Or did you actually see/read this somewhere? According to that
lady representative from Illinois(Jan. S......), she said there were somewhere between
20K and 22K Blackwater mercenaries in Iraq..

I was listening to novam (kphx stream) - which feeds airamerica programming and heard a news piece during a break. I believe I heard them say Rice and state made the request.

We'll see when it either does or doesnt hit print in a day or so.

It doesn't surprise me that Rice would say this. Even she has been getting wary of the war in the past several months... for example, she said on a few occasions that attacking Iran would be a disaster. Unfortunately, it's Bush & Cheney who pulls all the strings in the WH... even the entire cabinet no longer has any power.

@doggie - I wouldnt be surprised if Rice heard of the events from her team in Iraq and pulled the puppet strings on the Iraqi government to have blackwater removed. Either the Iraqi government grew a pair or the idea came from Rice. Hard to say.

Speculation.

Considering Blackwater's frenzied land buys in multiple townships in many states, wouldn't be a bad idea to consider some old-fashioned self-protection, capice ?

I hear you. I always thought it would come to this. That's why they are purposely destroying the National Guard.

Guardsman and women still feel a connection with US civilians and will not attack us. Blackwater and Mexican marines along with IDF trained local police will.

Fanon @ 82:

Doggiebobo @ 79:

Dr. Acula @ 77:

or maybe they're banning blackberries in iraq.

Well we know for a fact/certainty, it's not poppies in Afghan..

Well of course they banned blackwater. Don't our troops deserve clean drinking water?

Happiness is a warm poppie.

Different Anonymous @ 23:

Meanwhile, a Blackwater exec is jumping ship to find his way to the Romney campaign.

AHA! So Romney *is* going to be the Repub nominee. They must not think too highly of Fred and McCain has gone down in flames for the second time in his life.

McCain has gone down in flames at leas 2 times before that: he crashed a training jet, his jet malfunctioned and pretty much set the USS Forrestall in flames.

He is the definition of dead meat...

William Wallace @ 53:

Rusty Shackleford @ 7:

It's cute how the Iraqis think they're running their own country.

Just like it's cute we think we're running ours.....

A' toiseachadh Gaidhlig!

L.A. Confidential Says:

Looks like the first “troops” Bush and Cheney will be bringing home.

And just think of the uses the radical right-wing extremists would like to put these stormtroop...mercenaries to.

tim osman @ 85:

Considering Blackwater's frenzied land buys in multiple townships in many states, wouldn't be a bad idea to consider some old-fashioned self-protection, capice ?

I hear you. I always thought it would come to this. That's why they are purposely destroying the National Guard.

Guardsman and women still feel a connection with US civilians and will not attack us. Blackwater and Mexican marines along with IDF trained local police will.

"mexican marines"? hee hee, whaaaa?

L.A. Confidential @ 3:

Looks like the first "troops" Bush and Cheney will be bringing home.

Yeh, this is Cheney's legacy.

"They're famous for being very aggressive. They use their machine guns like car horns. But it's not the goal to kill people."

At least THEY tried to outlaw these fascists.
I had to deal with these cold hearted monsters in New Orleans, after Katrina.
Everyone wearing a Blackwater 'uniform' should be charged as war criminals.

Foo @ 92:

"They're famous for being very aggressive. They use their machine guns like car horns. But it's not the goal to kill people."

It's a perfect analogy because the effect of bullets and car horns is so similar.

Thing Fish @ 71:

Mikey @ 13:

Crap. I thought we were fighting Blackwater there so we didn't have to fight them here. No?

They were already used in NOLA. http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/091005A.shtml

Yes, and about a month or two ago they opened a huge facility in Illinois to train "civilian" police with nothing said that they were intended for Iraq or other foreign spots.

BennyP @ 93:

At least THEY tried to outlaw these fascists.
I had to deal with these cold hearted monsters in New Orleans, after Katrina.
Everyone wearing a Blackwater 'uniform' should be charged as war criminals.

I, for one, would be most interested in learning from you exactly what kind of things
you witnessed first-hand in NO that had to do w/Blackwater personnel; IF you feel
comfortable sharing that is.

Bu bu but... Wait a minute.. I thought Chimpy gave em a get outa jail free card.. I thought ol George was gonna pertectem with his big bad A-muri-kin laws and state department pat on the head..... You mean to tell me, Iraqies don't like our mercenaries anymore....They might actually try to arrest some of em??? ...Wow, what ingrates... And after all the time we've spent ruining their infrastructure and culture.... After all the time and effort spent indiscriminately killing and maiming their citizens... You'd think they'd want to hand us flowers and little candies or something....You'd think... Huh, learn something new everyday I guess....JD

Iraq has sovereignty. They decline to let Blackwater operate. Blackwater and the US government refuse to cooperate. This suggests the Americans and contractors have put themselves above local law.

This could be a war crime. Foreign nationals, states, and leaders are not allowed to meddle in the internal affairs of sovereign states. Is the Iraqi government prepared to render the Blackwater contractors to The Hague for war crimes; and continued interference in their domestic affairs?

Amazing the Iraqi government dares to do what the US government refuses: Disciplining reckless contractors for alleged illegal conduct. Why isn't the US conducting oversight of US Contractors? State Governors have the power to prevent state resources from being used by US contractors to support war crimes in Iraq.

What is the plan of the State AG and governors to enforce the charges against their states' citizens for violating Geneva, Iraqi law, and the laws of war?

So... how long till selected Iraqi interior ministry officials will be targetted by a convenient "suicide bomber"? Anyone taking bets?

Bremer's edicts were only for the INTERIM Iraqi government and Coalition Provisional Authority. Prime Minister Allawi was ASKED to extend the immunity for contractors and I have seen no where they did. Even IF he did, after the 2005 Iraqi election establishing their permanent government those edicts were null and void anyway.

Blackwater is toast if Maliki tosses them... and look... the BBC reports the Iraqi Interior Ministry says Blackwater is GONE.

Doggiebobo @ 97:

I, for one, would be most interested in learning from you exactly what kind of thingsyou witnessed first-hand in NO that had to do w/Blackwater personnel;

Scahill has discussed that deployment, but the main point is not what happened, it's THAT it happened. And that BW is trying to set up private/foreign military bases on US soil.

Deploying mercs to a natural disaster in the US is a violation of posse comitatus, and Bushco knows it. That's why they did it.

anon @ 85:

@doggie - I wouldnt be surprised if Rice heard of the events from her team in Iraq and pulled the puppet strings on the Iraqi government to have blackwater removed.

You have been drinking the Rice "horchata" in the media, haven't you?

SecState Rice is a MAJOR WAR CRIMINAL, and a conspirator against the United States. She is NOT an honorable person; she is NOT someone who has a conscience; she is NOT someone who gives a bloody goddamn over the people she has helped destroy.

She's a member of the Shitehouse Iraq Group, and she should hang with the rest of them.

Article III: The following acts shall be punishable:
(a) Genocide;
(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;
(c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;
(d) Attempt to commit genocide;
(e) Complicity in genocide.

Article IV: Persons committing genocide or any of the other acts enumerated in article III shall be punished, whether they are constitutionally responsible rulers, public officials or private individuals.

damn .... so much for privatization.

Faster Georgey Boy, Kill , Kill , Kill!!!

Mikey @ 13:

Crap. I thought we were fighting Blackwater there so we didn't have to fight them here. No?

No, you'll still have to fight them here. The people of New Orleans already know about this firsthand.

Hey, mercenaries do what they want to do. Your tax dollars are hard at work.

WE ARE A NATION OF WAR CRIMINALS

At least someone has the authority to use whatever means neccesary.
Our soldiers are essentially fighting with one arm tied behind their collective back.
Our bullshit rules of engagement only allows our guys to get their asses shot off.
This old soldier says; If Blackwater can operate over there without having
to be shot at first, why in the hell can't we???

State Department = Diplomacy = Blackwater = MURDER.

Our foreign policy = BLOOD, BLOOD, and MO' BLOOD.

Come on! They are not really leaving. There will be no accountability. More smoke and mirrors. When times get worse over there, as they will, they will have a greater presence.

somewhere out there an idiot is defending black water as hero and patriotic while labeling anti war as evil cowards. somewhere out there an idiot is talking about how black water is patriotic because they are willing to scarifies their soldiers for America. somewhere out there, an idiot is defending black water recent action, suggesting Iraqi reaction to the pulling black water license is an over reaction and that the good prince who owns the company, bursting with patriotic and American loving spirit would do the American loving thing would examine the action and excuse the heroic, patriotism, and American loving action committed by it employee at the Iraqis.

since they love America so much, their bloodstream fill with the adrenaline of American loving and patriotic spirit, that the good christian, patriotic, America loving, heroic prince who owns the company would punish they minimally for what they did was a small incident in a time of war, and because they were blindsided by love of their country that the employee who committed the crime didn't understood the difference between the enemy and innocent, but since we are in war, it is a small price to pay.

as American loving, good christian, heroic, patriotic black water employee, they shall and will be forgiven. the Iraqi government is overreaction is example of their misunderstanding of how democracy work and because they didn't understood that the incident involving the black water employee action was for the purpose of per versing their government but also a form of American loving, patriotic, heroic action implicated to save America.

if black water ever leaves, it will be a great lost to the Iraqi government because many of them protected by the black-water employee. but what is greater at lost is the patriotic, American loving, heroic black-water, run by the christian prince who loves his country second to his love of his god, (after all, he is born again) who will no longer be able to tell and prove to the whole entire world how much they love America. the recent incident involving the employee is evidence of their love for their country. anyone who want to punish black-water for that hates America.

somewhere out there, an idiot actually will said this on the internet and to your face in person, believing in that blackwater run by a born again christian can do no harm for they love america. the one who don't is the evil protestors.

When the war crimes trials are held, they should be held in Falluja.

Now we'll see just how sovereign a nation Iraq truly is. If Petraeus and Crocker are smart they'll side with the Maliki government. If they don't the message they're sending is "The lives of Iraqis don't mean shit."

If Iraq truly is a sovereign nation, they can expel Blackwater and prosecute any one of them for defying the government's orders. Or is it, as well as suspect, the Chimp who is in charge in Iraq?

I wanted to update something I posted earlier. I heard one piece on a break AAR news which I thought said Rice requested blackwater leave Iraq. I have since heard others - Maddow - state that Rice insisted blackwater stay. One of us is wrong. I may have miss heard the piece. I'm just not sure.

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