Again, if you think that the next President is going to be able to disentangle us from the horror that is Iraq, well, you've been stealing Limbaugh's drugs. Bush played this one perfectly, because no matter what the candidates say now, once they enter the West Wing they will have to deal with the real power in this country, those making a mint off the war.

There is no way, absolutely no way we don;t have a sizable combat force in Iraq for a minimum of five more years ... and probably more like 10 to 15 years.

And is Shuster really Jimmy Kimmel's super-smart twin?

Oh Please!

go Kucinich

Well, at least HILLARY VOWED COMPLETE IRAQ WITHDRAWAL BY END OF FIRST TERM … CHELSEA’S!

go Kucinich
go Kucinich
go Kucinich
Please put some sense back into this country.
Thanks.

Here's my favorite work by a Shuster.

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The "BELTWAY DEMOCRAT PARTY" is now as irrelevant as the "REPUBLIC PARTY"---Neither of which can grasp the fact that WE, THE PEOPLE are going to put an end to this BUSHIT, one way or another, with or without either one OR BOTH of them!
DUMMY UP AND PAY ATTENTION, AS#HOLES!---
THERE WILL BE A TIME OF RECCONING AND IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE!

George Bush's war....

How come only the DEMOCRATS are asked how they
will clean up this mess?

Rudy, Mitt, Freddy, McCain, all they get asked about is
HOW MANY nukes they are going to drop on Tehran?

And, every Republic benefits by pushing this mess into 2009,
so screw guys like Warner, et all, who know what a clusterf*ck
this is, but politically are willing to let it slide to the demos to
clean up......blood and treasure be damned!

Men like Bush never look back, even to their deathbeds, they
made the correct decisions in their drum-tight minds, and were
undone by "the media, the opposition, underlings"...

The party of personal responsability my ass......

After Hillory fails to clean up Georges mess, there will be just enough time for Jeb Bush to come in and save the day!

Patthemonkey, that scares me too. I don't see how any person can get this all fixed in just four years. The Repubs will raise hell in four years and Jeb will be waiting for their blessing.

Frustration is such a difficult emotion to deal with and I'm not doing a very good job of dealing with it today.

John, we used to here. I voted with them when I lived in NY.
Everything's about money here, however much is needed just to register a political party.

Edwards's position on Iraq was DISTINCTLY different than Hillary's-Are people not able to listen and understand anymore? He very plainly criticized her vote to authorize war with IRAN earlier in the day and would start withdrawing 50% of forces immediately-a CLEAR difference-It is irritating to read comments from people who don't understand the English language-I guess that is why Bush has fooled everyone for so long-he knows they are unable to listen and reason-sad state when citizens don't understand what they hear.

This report is completely disingenuous. Kucinich is the one who has been most consistently against the war. He voted against it from the beginning and has spoken out continuously since. But nowhere is Kucinich even mentioned in this report.

There is a real media conspiracy here. Why give more air time to Gravel (who, lets face it - while having great policies and ideas - is too wacky to be taken seriously as a candidate) than to a legitimate candidate who is serious, credible and un-wacky.

It's almost as if the report was designed to deflect attention away from Kucinich.

This piece was so f****d up from the start. They covered all the mainstream beltway insider's opinions and threw Gravel in as the "extreme" candidate, but not once did they give a glimpse to the guy who really understands the desires of the "base" -- Kucinich. Schuster presents this as a kind of "well look, even the Democrats have no real choice in November, 2008."

They do -- but the MSM won't give him the time of day!

I am glad to see that at least now the country can see that Obama isn't the "change" candidate he purports himself to be -- he's just as interested in keeping the money masters happy as he accuses Clinton of being. No war = No more cash binges for the military/industrial overlords. Either he just got that memo -- or he was just waiting for the right time to let them know he's in.

Why do all the media biggies forget to talk about D. Kucinich. His plan was to get us out of Iraq with in three months. And he also has the best medical plan.

I THINK WE SHOULD NOT ALLOW THE MEDIA TO DECIDE WHO WE SHOULD VOTE FOR. AND MAYBE SOME OF THE FRONT RUNNERS SHOULD GO TO THE BACK OF THE LINE.

I wonder if they know that the Korean Model won't work in Iraq. There was no insurgency in South Korea. The South Koreans weren't split into factions who were alternately trying to kill Americans and each other. If they were American troops would have been home from Korea long ago. When they talk about long term commitments, they are talking about long term commitments to combat. There was no combat in South Korea after the truce with the North was signed. I don't think they've thought this long term commitment idea through very well.

I really avoid using ALL CAPS but with Schuster's last question I can't hold back:

IT LEAVES THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WITH TWO VIABLE CANDIDATES: Mike and Dennis.

Clinton voting for that stupid amendment and none of the mainliners committing to a pull out (plus NONE of them doing something in the senate NOW) does indeed make an opening for others, particularly Mike and Dennis.

Pit Mike Gravel against ANY republican and he'll leave nothing but the fingerprints.

C&L would do better if they took Mike Gravel a bit more seriously.

So, John Edwards tried to create a distinction between himself and Hillary Rodham, and the media successfully came up with a way to help her blur the distinctions?

John Edwards made it clear that he would have NO COMBAT TROOPS in Iraq. We have soldiers in places all over the world, but they aren't in COMBAT operations.

John Edwards made it clear that he may have some soldiers with humanitarian workers or with the embassy, but he will remove all COMBAT TROOPS.

Why isn't the media asking candidates if we should have all troops out of South Korea by 2013, if they aren't going to highlight the differences between "NO COMBAT TROOPS" and no troops at all?

Clinton would still have COMBAT TROOPS in Iraq.

John Edwards would not. That is a difference.

Kucinich...or Richardson....Hell, Ron Paul!

So it's come to this. Well, other than agreeing with all you Kucinich-heads on the only palatable candidate here - it seems to me like an electability moment. Makes you wonder if an indie like Bloomberg will crop up because all the candidates on both sides are so ridiculous. Or is there one final tiny hope that a true progressive (with establishment cred) might step up who is actually electable (sorry Dennis): Al Gore.

Get on your emails, write letters and make phone calls and do all that you can to stamp the message into the forheads of these people to let them know you mean business.

We should be tired of the games played at our expense. They need to get the hell on the floors of congress and do their jobs like we sent them to do or get the hell off of it and allow people in them that will.

This is my response to the madness they continue to bring to this country so one up me and do what you have to do to make it clear.

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Dear: All Democratic Congress/Senate Members,,

Democrats need to learn how to follow the instructions of their employer who are the American people who put them in office to get a specific job done, not what you want to do but what your employer tells you to do.

Now I know many of you are not used to that and neither are we used to guiding you, but nothing going on in today's political arena is normal and that is all because many of you made a fatal error, by trusting George W Bush, which woke up the entire world.

Now if you want to get back to leading this country without intervention from what you all see as the little people that you make decisions for, then you need to start making decisions that make us feel comfortable about you and know that we don't have to worry about what you are doing. We personally do not have time to supervise you. We have enough to deal with without this crap.

Right now is not the case when we have many of our trusted Democrats voting on issues, that actually disrespect and hurt the party on issues that we depend on them to do the right things. They just will not do it,and this is clearly wrong that you are doing exactly what Bush himself is doing to you buy totally disrespecting the constitution and the laws of this country.Well, so are you to us, and we are here to tell you in record numbers, that we are not going to stand for it. You work for us.

MoveOn, is an organization apprised of average American citizens and we are standing up to do the jobs that our employee's refuse to do. We are not going to allow a President nor his hand picked Generals or anybody else stand up before the entire world and spew false information and Lie's about something as serious as this illegal invasion of Iraq, that have murdered up to four thousand of our kids and over a million Innocent people of that country and you all have to be out of your minds if you think we will.and stop wasting time with trivial litigation that means nothing but is pissing off your employer and turning them against you, which will mean a whole lot of people not voting at all, which is a good thing for republicans and it plays right into their stinking hands.

It is not acceptable for ANY, democrat to vote wrongly on any important issue, especially as this disastrous, illegal invasion into Iraq,and especially knowing now what you ALL know, for the reasons that you are in a so called RED,state.

Like the troops that you so call support, you should be willing to sacrifice your political positions to save the lives of these young people , just as they are expected to do for their country. You are not doing the party any good when you vote against the very issues we all stand for and we just assume you were not in the job, because you are violating your oath of office.The very people that you are posturing for,are not going to vote for you anyhow and if you don't know it, you should.

You know you all need to discontinue funding this illegal disaster in Iraq and you aught to know if you don't, that American people do know that you can do it if you want to,and you do not need the sixty votes, you continue to falsely promote, as you have other avenues and yes it is a very difficult decision and it will take guts and the knowledge that you have the American people, (your employer), supporting your very difficult decision, all the way. It is not possible for you to do any more harm to the troops then you already have and you better believe that we have your backs, when you stand up straight and refuse to allow the right wing to ride it as you have.

In the words of Dr. Martin Luther King, as he once said that a man can't ride your back if it's not bent and these are words of encouragement, that all of you need at this trying time.

You should all know that we are not in favor of any candidates running for the office of President especially , that are not willing to commit, to bringing ALL OF THE TROOPS HOME. We do not give a dame about this illegal EMBASSY, it belongs to the people of Iraq, like everything else we invaded in that country. They don't want us there for obvious reasons and we need to pack up our troops and just get the hell out like they want and yes we need to provide them with the billions of dollars you all should be willing to vote against giving to Bush in this next presidential handout, because you can no longer justify giving him one more dime, other then enough to bring our kids home.

I know I have been really tough on all of you lately and it is because of my frustration and I intend to continue on with my rants, as long as I do not see progress in the party I dedicated my life to supporting and I do that because it can and should be a party that is dedicated to ALL the people, unlike the republicans who are solely for a selected group and they sealed that in the refusal to debate people of color and support issues that have clearly devastated our people in the last six plus years. They simply do not give a dame and neither do we about them and we can show them better then we can tell them.

Peace

StCyrlyMe

Single working person contribute 32% of their income to income taxes, the net income are expendable for daily living and life-style. Of this expendable income, once it is spent for purchases, items purchased are again taxed at anywhere between 5% to 12% sales taxs on retail goods. On top of that if we become a homeowner, we are also subject to property taxes. To make this clear in numbers, let me give you an example of a single person earning $50,000 a year gross. His net income would be $34,000 and $16,000 goes to income tax. If his living expense ($800/mo in rent) that would leave him $24,400 a year in budget for other expenses such as car payments, food, gas, etc.
suppose he spent all the $24,400 through purchases that are subject to 8.5% sales tax that would equate to $2,074 dollars paid to sales taxes.

based on this simple scenerio, this individual would have contributed to $18,074 of his income to taxes alone. That is approximately more than 37% of his gross income contributed to that Federal Tax Reserves to help fund agency that generate generate more revenues by means of services such as fines and forefeitures, business taxes, corporate taxes and permits.

It get worse if the sceneraios are single persons with properties who are subjected to property taxes with no dependents to off-set tax liabilites. And worse for those who are in this country illegally who are paying sales taxes and and being paid under the table for less than our nations minimum net income.

What is my point? My point is that the people of this nation has PAID alot of money....tax money...peoples money....that was suppose to be used for PEOPLE'S agenda. Instead it is being MIS-APPROPRIATED and mis-used to subsidized other interests that IS not PEOPLE BUSINESS. That TAXES are being trasferred irresponsibly to support an ILLEGAL WAR that does NOT bring about PEACE to our nation or to the WORLD at LARGE. The peoples money has been squandered to support the interest in this case of the BIG BUSINESS. The WAR-MONGERS, The NEO-CONS agenda to take control over their interest in another nations OIL RESOURCES, The control on the main-stream media that truly belongs to the people since it was the people that operate the media empire and the people that buy into the media to self educate themselves by trying to keep up with current events relying on the integrity of the reporting.

It is an OUTRAGE that the government who was suppose to be the referree of public dispute if you will or the gatekeeper to our social democracy are the ONES that seem to destroy the whole premise of why they where elected to be where they are at today and elected to do their duty to maintain civility by means of executing laws that should work to benefit our society and to enforce those laws that are already set and standards. It is clear to me that the "candidate" currently are not representative of the people. Their main objective is to win the publics vote to gain power in the White House so that they can help advance the Corporate's and special interest AGENDA....After election is won.....the VAST MAJORITY of the VOTERS are kept behind the back burner in this case out and AWAY from the confine of the WHITE HOUSE and Congressional BUILDING, in secret meetings and only in a phony public hearing to appear to the public that they portray an IMAGE of OPEN GOVERNMENT.

keeping Public participation in the governing process and the deciding factors OUT of the public reach seems to becoming the NORM in Washington DC.

People are not even free to display decent or have a right to peaceful protest without INTIMIDATION from the goons that WE call POLICE. Police are suppose to arrest law breakers first and second protect any crime from spreading. Futher more WE ARE THE TAX PAYERS who employ them and pay their wages. We gave them permission to protect our neighbors and ourselves if we go beyond the relm of reasons. In this many case with respect to anti-war protestor, they are there to do the peoples business and supervise an insubordinated public survants. SOMETHING IS definitely wrong with this PICTURE.

We the people paid approximately 50% of our income to protect us from goons and criminals and yet the police are protecting the criminals in the White House? Some people may argue that you aint guilty of a crime until you are convicted of ONE. Then why are WE not pressing the POLICE to make an arrest of those who we filed and suspected as committing a CRIME? The Police need to know that this is their nation too and should protect our nation from those who are destroying our nation. It is clear that to some degree (this is generously giving the BUSH administration the benefit of the doubt) we the people have REASONS to believe that they have broken the basic fundamental laws of this nation.

Our government and it people are sick. The are becoming like the German Nazi who followed the Hitler regime to destruction. They have utterly given up their sense of logic and confused their action of loyalty to Adolf Hitler destructive leadership as PATRIOTISM.

AMERICA is NOT like that! I thought I knew AMERICA then but today I am heartbroken that the AMERICA I knew and proud-off is following the slippery slope of another distructive leadership.....and sadly that leadership is here in AMERICA.

My only hope is that my belief of the AMERICAN people that see the difference between right and wrong would rise to this brutal lost souls in the WHITE HOUSE for the sake of our country and the WORLD and do something before it is too late and the DAMAGE becomes IRREVERSIBLE.

Good luck and GOD BLESS our nation. We need GOD direction more than ever. PEACE

The top tier do not know what they will inherit? That a bunch of baloney. WHAT DO THEY KNOW? Acting dumb when you have already been found out....especially in your position as a genuine insider in the highest offices of the political area, only make politicians look SO DISHONEST. WE weren't born just yesterday......YOUR ANSWERS ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

The all have been repeatedly WRONG at almost everything since IRAQ WAR.

It's hard to believe that Hillary did not know about the plan to attack IRAQ when she was a White House insider. She is not as slick as she think she is. There are alot of us that remember the White water scandals and how she lied to cover Bill's affair. How do we know for sure that she is not lying just to win the election? She has lied before to the public, why wouldn't she lie NOW? Hillary WAS a republican. This means if she wins the nominee, WE will have a clear choice between an EX-REPUBLICAN Hillary Clinton against another Republican. Either way a Republican will win if people buy in to this SCAM.

I believe Hillary knew that there was going to be a war in IRAQ. The BUSH and the Clintons are as close as a-B-C. I believe that the war was planned long ago and she knew that this will be executed during BUSH regime. So I don't believe a word she is saying. Her voting record will prove that. Her campaign backers does not help her reputation at all either, it just means that she will owe alot of pay-backs through advancing corporate favors.

Her main goal for now is WINNING the presidency at any cost.....and the MEDIA will bilk her for every millions shes gets from her corporate backer. It is a money game. Pharma, OIL, HEalth care, alot of big money corporation has a stake at getting her elected. She is the BIG CORPORATION's insurance that will insure them a continued influence at the WHITE HOUSE.

The BIG CORPORATION is covering all bases so that If Guilliani or Romney DO NOTwin they still have HILLARY. Hillary is a paid-for candidate for the BIG corporate. And the corporation want to make sure that they have an influence in the WHITE HOUSE.

The TOP TEIR candidate are all in the same boat. They are all supported at both end of the political spectrum by big corporation. and they will attack every other candidate through the use of their MONEY.

BUT AS LONG as the AMERICAN PEOPLE remain firm that they will ONLY SUPPORT those that have the clear voting record to prove that they are working for the INTEREST of the public at LARGE, WE WILL NOT BE defeated.

We will find out who was sleeping on the job. Some one is because according to the top tier they did not know what was happening in the white house, when in fact their primary duty was suppose to watch OVER our national interest. But as we learn many are more involved at their personal INTEREST while everything from the war in IRAQ, to War on Terror to the sunken city of New Orleans. Some one was NOT doing their job at overseeing the office of the United States.

ITS time to CLEAN UP WASHINGTON from TOP to BOTTOM. Nancy Pelosi is not going to do it, the collective action of the People of United State will have to take over. WE HAVE genuine patriots......WE have LAWYERS, AUDITORS, ANALYST, POLITICAL SCHOLARS, SCIENTIST, CIVIL ACTIVIST, INVESTIGATORS, all willing to take action to CLEAN UP WASHINGTON. But People must stand firm as AMERICAN people. Without the AMERICAN people there are NO AMERICA and there are NO CORPORATE AMERICA

This is the season for MEDIA MONEY. and I gaurantee that they WILL BILK the candidate's of their millions of dollars of campaign money. And the RICH will flood them with all the money to help them win the EECTION.

What WE THE PEOPLE HAVE that they don't have IS the VOTE........that is why YOU VOTE is more precious than the rate of dollars. Don't give it away easily. THE BIGGEST CON is about to unfold. Its going to be nasty when the corporate empire's robe is undone and every truth is exposed. WE will brings them to their knees and put them at their place.