October 02, 2007 12:27 PM
Glenn Beck: "Context is everything"
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Put away your sharp objects. And then go to your happy place. I promise you, it is the only way to get through this piece of unadulterated excrement from someone whose entire brain pan is filled with terms he thinks are insults but that he doesn't actually know the definition of. Watch how his defense of Rush jumps from smears against Media Matters, to MoveOn to George Soros to "fringe left elements" to socialism. Socialism? So a socio-economic philosophy is now persecuting Rush Limbaugh? Stop. It hurts.
Please, for the love of everything holy, why does this man have a show?
Why does he have a show? He gives a great reach around?
1st
Why does he have a show? Maybe because he is "good looking" (?) and willing to read the cue cards that GW gives him.
Does any talking head on the right actually WRITE their own drivel? At least our "voices" read the news, give their sources, and write their own scripts. Yesterday all I heard on the right radio was "persecuting Rush" Moveon...." "but Clinton did it first..."
2nd
CNN went way overboard with this idiot. Again, he spews nothing but lies.
he is jumping up and down to take the limpball's spot when he croaks. he is just as absurd and full of total bullshit.
he really is a clown...just like limpballs.
I think in the same show he reiterated his warning that Muslims want to outbreed us white folks and take-over the US and A. Glenn Greenwald has been the best at debunking that fear (albeit the wingnuts won't stop spreading it).
Here's, once again, another copy of the transcript. Just in case any sane person had any doubts:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709270010
The "Taken out of context" defense in this case is not only unfounded, but is pathetic. Glenn Beck is a tool.
BTW why do we care about Micheal Moore and George Soros? Isn't this line of crap getting tiresome yet?
"spade a spade"? Is Soros a spade? Or more likely is Beck a few cards shy of a full deck!
It's unbelievable how these nitwits constantly and consistently demonize Media Matters, MoveOn.org and George Soros. I guess it's a lot easier to do that when there are so few targets, whereas the right wing has all its media outlets and "objective" news shows.
The absurd quoting the absurd ... ? ... These guys sound like grade-school kids arguing in the playground.
As someone said (was it an AAR host?... I fergit) about O'Rielly a couple of weeks ago: if he was caught robbing a bank, he'd say that it "was taken out of context".
Honest, I tried to listen to the whole thing and couldn't. How do you spell buffoon? We really should just ignore him, Limbaugh and Bill Orally. Too many words are just wasted in these guys. I'll bet each of our collective life spans would increase by months or possibly years if we never mentioned them again. Here's to your health!
...and CNN Headline News replaced Erica Hill with this piece of dreck.
I haven't watched Headline News since. Actually, except for Keith Olbermann, I rarely watch cable news. Its all fair and balanced if your political opinions are somewhere to the right of Louis Quatorze.
is there any campaign to get Glenn Beck off the air?
please tell me that there is and send me the website.
Sorry, couldn't get through the WHOLE thing. Just assumed that if he is an idiot during the first part, what could make him watchable during the second.
This is so depressing. On the bright side, cable news has as much journalistic integrity and credibility as TMZ or Extra. On the dark side, people watch both. And those people vote.
I really wish our democratic leaders would take the high ground. Just because the GOP decided to try and make something out of the MoveOn ad, doesn't mean the Democratic party should do the same. It's stooping to their level. Get some GD work done, and figure out this mess in Iraq! Stop making Rush Limbaugh appear credible by giving him the time of day.
Appreciate the thread, but I just ate and watching "anything" Beck has to
say would make me up-chuck, so unable to view...now or ever...
The CNN board of Directors should rent "Network" and rethink their programming. If you think this is going to make things better you're doomed.
If you're a neocon propagandist, stop reading now. It would be unAmerican to read any further AND it would expose your secret homosexual urges.
Okay, now that they're gone...
How long is it going to be until the neocon propaganda machine gives up on reality altogether, and just starts making up EVERYTHING? I suspect they're getting close to realizing that the Big Lie Theory doesn't need to apply to any real underlying incident.
Anyone who can listen to the Rush Limbaugh clip knows what he said. For the Usual Apologists to try to spin it requires almost complete detachment from reality. So why not detach completely? At some point they're going to say "Hey, you know, I imagine that Hilary Clinton might have said 'I eat babies every day,' so that's pretty much exactly as if she did say it..." and then they'll procede to bash her from there.
"Clinton Eats Babies" would be the Fox News headline. Rush would of course roundly chastise Ms. Clinton, even as the sound of chewing drowned out the cries of babies in his radio studio. Sean Hannity would ask, "Last week on the campaign trail Hilary Clinton stated clearly that she eats babies every day. The Liberal Media refuse to air the video or audio recording of this event, refusing even to respond to this journalist's request for a copy. Instead they denied the video exists, clear evidence that they are hiding it. So my question is, why have four liberal Senators voted against the latest resolution condemning Hilary Clinton for stating that she eats babies every day?"
I think we're on the cusp of this total separation from reality... but it's not a totally bad thing. What if we could persuade the neocons to simply pretend that the United States has already invaded Iran, and actually "won?" Maybe they could just skip right to the self-righteous, puffed out self-congratulation stage, without the need for an actual invasion? I mean, who's to know, right? In Tehran, American-educated professionals sitting in a cafe could watch CNN in total bemusement...
"Wolf, there's no evidence that the U.S. does control Tehran, or that we have any troops in the country."
"Sorry Jack, but it's clear from reports in the Washington Post and on Fox News that Tehran is a smoking nuclear hole, and the Iranians are suing for unconditional surrender."
"Wolf, you've lost your mind. Provide me with ONE shred of evidence that this has happened."
"Well, Jack, America has not suffered another terrorist attack since 9/11, so I think that proves my point. It seems that you have succumbed to the liberal media's propaganda that refuses to recognize our victory over Iran..."
Maybe the growing neoconservative delusion-state can be turned to our advantage!
Yeah... I got your context right here Glenn Beck. Didn't Rush in his short lived tv show accuse Bill Clinton of laughing at Michael Brown's death at his funeral and once he realized that the camera was trained on him then faked wiping away a tear? If I can find footage of this I will post a link. This was at the height of the right wing peddling the theory that Clinton was responsible for numerous deaths to cover up his involvement in the Mena cocaine pipeline which Falwell and Ollie North hawked tapes allegedly "proving" this. And it was North who was the one ACTUALLY involved in the Mena pipeline as that was the strip where the planes arrived and departed from during the whole Contra affair. These little shits have NO shame.
What makes me mad is, flipping from CNN to MSNBC today (I left out FOX because, why waste my time), they both said "Limbaugh says he was taken out of context". Now I'm not a journalist or a news channel owner, but at that moment, wouldn't playing the quote in question, in context, be the right thing to do? They don't because putting the quote in context ends the discussion of what Rush was saying and who he was saying it about and shows him for the tool that he is.
[How hilarious. Calling us loons, yet not aware enough yourself to realize you've been banned for, oh, six to eight MONTHS now-Sitemonitor]
Beck's show is the Special of Olympics of punditry.
Okay fellow liberals, listen up. Let's take a cue from Glenn Retch. What we need to do is say the most vile/hateful/hurtful things about conservatives (or really anyone we don't agree with cause we can), destroy our logic process, and tell outright lies... but we do it using a fun and chip and quirky voice! The same voice that Doug Feith would have if we kicked him in the balls. That way we too can get national air time on BOTH CABLE AND NETWORK news programs. Then we will finally be heard and rolling in the dough!
That's all these guys know how to do. They play a semantics game is basically one misleading statement piled atop another.
It's very tired.
I'm sorry... it was Ron Brown.. not Michael Brown
Cunning-Linguist @ 10:
I keep wondering when the adults will be in charge again. All the people in DC, congresscritters, pundits, et al are acting like children. Where are the adults?
CNN must seriously be after Bill O'Reilly's audience. Why else would they allow this gas bag on air at prime time?
DHavok @ 21:
That would be because you're not getting pressure from the ultra-conservative bosses at corporate to protect their own by following the Fox talking points. Remember, the media is only as Liberal as the Conservative businessmen who own them.
I refuse to give up any part of my life watching this buffoon.
Never heard him, and don't want to. Is he really on CNN?
Geeez/
I think he got everything in except 9/11 and Clinton/Monica... but, he'll probably get that in his next show.
Only very dumb people must think he is smart.
TimV @ 23:
Why would we want to use their methods? Sorry but whenever I have had this thought (and I've had it PLENTY of times), I remind myself of what Martin Luther King Jr. said:
The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges. But there is something that I must say to my people who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice. In the process of gaining our rightful place we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred.
Media is entertainment folks...
Carmelo Lisciotto
Nicole - I can't do it...I can't bring myself to click on the video link. Do I have to? Can't I just read the transcript somewhere, please? Beck makes my skin crawl.
*shiver*
He's just part of CNN's freak show in the circus of life. I try to ignore him and pretend the noise is just the wind blowing.
After Democrats sweep the elections next year, do you think the MSM will keep this crap on the air? Are the corporate kleptocrats going to keep running this garbage to keep the kool-aid drinkers happy? I couldn't take more than about 90 seconds of this clown, how can they have any ratings? Or have all the TV sets in every health club in America been welded to spew filth?
DHavok @ 31:
Sorry... I couldn't find the sarcasm switch on my keyboard. Definitely joking. Nice quote!
He has a show in part because of YOU Nicole.
Yes, Nicole - you are a reason he still has a show. Not THE reason, but certainly A reason. When people post clips and talk about their outrage... that's publicity. And in show-biz, no publicity is bad publicity.
Why post this for us? What's the point? Who cares? Yes there are things we need to talk about which are hard to think about (see: Bush Administration) but this guy is a nothing with barely any ratings. The ratings he can maintain are because of people like YOU Nicole, who keep giving him more viewers.
So stop it. Please. Nothing good comes from watching, taping, and then showing up what was on.
Nobody that has listened to the Limbaugh tape...the entire clip in unedited form will come to any conclusion other than Limbaugh calling soldiers fighting Iraq "Phoney". Context is everything and the context here is "the media going up to soldiers" the media in Iraq that is and looking only for ones that disprove of the war. That was the context and Limbaugh did not set it, the caller did.
What we saw was a glimpse of the big truth of this war. The GOP'ers see it as their war and not America's. If you are against the war, but fighting it, you are entirely in line with your rights as an American (you are fighting for America after all) but you are out of GOP line as you are not voicing an opinion that advantages them. Certainly a GOP Chickenhawk like Limbaugh would see soldiers like that as "Phoney" as he perceives their mission and their performance as talking point substrate for the GOP and never gave a crap of what America gets.
Listen to the tape. Its not about the "Mission" as these guys are fighting for that. Its not about "Honor" or "Courage"as they are voicing their position in an environment hostile to it and that takes guts and character. It's about the needs of the GOP. They need this war to be popular with the Troops or be left in the indefensible position of letting them die in war only popular with the GOP. And, they need that to be what reporters report. If this is handled not as a off the cuff remark but as opening Pandora's box..some good will come of it for the troops.
DHavok @ 21:
Exactly. The he-said, she-said BS is standard fare for TV news. But in this case even journalistic laziness is no excuse. The context is available to anyone with internet access and 5 free minutes. Instead, it seems they'd rather rely on the spin from from a bloated partisan drug-addict.
I understand that Charles Manson, if given a show and on the same time as Beck. Beck would lose his audience.
Beck feels the need to defend Rushbo ? Beck did not once speak to the responsible use of free speech by Rushbo and cohorts. Yet they constently make a living by preaching hate of others and attacking the free speech of others................................ Its just so unfair to hold neo con talkers to any standard at all. Poor Rushbo, Those evil doing liberals went after him and exposed his drug use, and questioned his chance in life to serve the military, or Rushbos hateful attack at Mike J. Fox. Oh, thats ok because they have this full rien of the media to swift boat people and go unattested or force someone to spend alot of money on countering these lies.
To many people confuse Rushbo with Rambo.............................................
Thanks for watching this Nicole, so I don't have to. I'll take your word for it. I can't stomach this...even from my happy place. :)
Site monitor, why don't you allow me to advocate violence against these peoples.....
John Yarmuth, Member of Congress
319 Cannon House Office Building
U.S. House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515
Dear Congressman Yarmuth,
I tried to get through to you when you were on WFPL's "State Of Affairs" radio show a few weeks ago. I wanted to challenge your lack of support for fairness on the public airwaves. I know you're busy, and you may be somewhat insulated from the true picture of what unregulated broadcasting has become.
Right wing radio dominates practically the entire AM radio spectrum in Louisville. We are unable to hear ANY progressive opinions on the AM talk stations because the corporate ownership of most of those stations have issued directives that ONLY conservative talkers will be allowed.
Are you aware that Rush Limbaugh and others have a direct pipeline to the White House? Are you OK with the regular meeting that Bush holds in the oval office with the conservative radio hosts, usually just before a big policy push, such as the surge in Iraq? Did you know that if Dick Cheney doesn't like what he hears from one of his talkers he calls them, personally, as he did when he heard Sean Hannity dissing the Dubai ports deal?
Liberal talkers have been successful in many, many markets across the US. It seems, however, that you have bought into the right-wing talking point that no one wants to listen to the liberals. This is simply not true. The truth is that we have had our choice to be exposed to varied viewpoints on talk radio taken away from us. Someone needs to speak up to oppose the lock-out on liberal talkers by the station owners.
Another right-wing falsehood is that the left has other outlets for their ideas. I invite you to add up all the "other outlets" and see if they can possibly tip the scales when weighed against the conservative talk juggernaut.
I implore you to recognize that this is NOT just a free speech issue. This is a coordinated, political and economic domination of the publicly owned radio airwaves by a neo-con propaganda machine.
I know you oppose the Fairness Doctrine. If I understood you correctly, you traded your support to a Republican in return for his support on another issue. I submit that there are few other issues as important as getting under control a talk radio monster that has come to see itself as more powerful than our elected officials.
"I don't want the FCC to tell me what's fair" you say. Congressman, would you rather have Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter tell you what's fair? I hope not.
Please reconsider your position. Stop being the only Democrat in Congress opposing fairness in broadcasting. If you can't support the Fairness Doctrine, then, please, support something that will give us some relief from the 24 hour a day, 7 day a week hammering from the hateful, Bush/Cheney sycophants on Louisville radio.
I recently saw several flattering postings on some progressive blogs regarding your work in Congress. I'll also be posting this letter on those blogs, as it's an important issue to many Democrats. Best wishes and good luck.
NewNameAcquired @ 37:
Why do you even come to a site that is dedicated primarily to 'crooks and liars' in the media? Pointing out the idiocy of the bobbleheads on TV is what this video blog is all about.
Great post Nicole. :lol:
Oh, GET REAL...Wolfie, Spittle-Boy, Timmeh, et al knows who signs their checks...someone's made some phone calls to be sure they protect RUSHIE no matter how hard they have to scramble...this nasty/lying/bastard presented his bona fides back when he attacked an 11 year old daughter of a president and first lady that he despised! He's called Hillary a lesbian, a murder, a feminazi, etc...and THEY think "lefties" are mean-spirited...it's the PROJECTION THING, folks!!! And, yes get Limpballs off the military radio stations...because he is a fount of misinformation.
so beck is allowed to blather on about "context" and then spew the same lies about george soros, without even giving one shred of evidence??
what the fuck is wrong with cnn?
Seriously, stop giving Glenn Dickhead more viewers. You double his viewership by putting clips on this site. It's really disgusting. Please, spare us.
NewNameAcquired @ 37:
Are you new here, NNA? This is what we do. This is why this site is named "Crooks and Liars." You want to play ostrich and put your head in the sand and hope the bad people go away, be my guest.
I won't. I will keep holding them up to the light and show them for the hacks that they are. I will continue to ask why some are given national platforms when nothing they say has any bearing to reality (or in Beck's case, intelligence). This site's whole raison d'etre is to show how the media frames the national debate.
Captain America @ 47:
If that were true, he wouldn't be scraping the bottom of the barrel in ratings already. The sad fact is, Beck is CNN's loss leader attempt at giving them some street cred with the reichwingers to deflect some of their claims that every network except faux news has a "liberal bias." It doesn't matter to them that only a handful of people actually watch his show.
Even Faux News wouldn’t take this guy. It looks like he will say or act like anything to try to get a FOX News gig. I pity the poor person who has to watch this crap to stay on top of what this asshole is up to. They should get hazard pay that’s for sure.
I couldn't watch it all but thank you for posting these examples of mental drool. The "logic" used by these liars would comical if it weren't so important to our nation.
The thing here is, note that the entire right backs up and defends Rush, but when Moveon is under attack, Democrats fall over themselves to join in condemning them. Nice going, guys.
On a related note, our friends at The Today Show were at it again. When the Moveon.org "controversy" was raging, they led the charge to bury those commie pinko lefties who dared to challenge the mighty general.
Now, with Rush Limpballs inserting his big foot into his bigger mouth, they were asking if Americans really want to see the Senate spending time on this "nonsense."
Once again....tell me about the liberal media.
Funny how none of the limpballs supporters (supporters, get it) will play the actual tape of what he said. They lie to their audience about it, why won't they play the tape? C'mon Hannity, Levin, Prager, play the tape for your listeners, let them decide if it's out of context.
hate2haggle @ 12:
I totally agree with your posting. I can no longer listen to the likes of these IDIOTS- Rushie/Bushie;Coltergeist in slinky black party dress; toothy grin Beck'O; and nasty/buffoono Bill'O. I try to keep up with them indirectly through others, whose opinion I respect. But, even that is painful when a video clip is shown of these losers spewing their venom. While everything around the NeoCons has deteriorated in front of our eyes, they still sing the same useless/out-dated tunes based on lies and trickery.
My real frustration is how the minority Repugs in the Senate continue to block any moves by the slim majority of dems to pass anything that the American public want passed. Liebermann needs to be taken out and electrically programed with a cattle-prod until he returns to at least a basic normal state of mind if at all possible!!
This Glenn Beck guy is an asshole. This is the most ridiculous smear I have heard in a while.
If you care to send CNN a comment you have to go to this website. It's fairly painless. I would let them know that you caught this information on C+L so they realize that you were not actually watching this needle dick. And I would guess not many DO watch this needle dick.
While the news covers the he said/she said/context/edited for your enjoyment, circle jerk of the news network stars, Herr Bush vetos childrens healthcare, as he said he would.
Pay no attention to the freak shows.
Wow he really talks alot, but he didn't say much. He used to have a radio show that he would have this guy call him and talk about nothing like he does with his TV show. and thats what it is a show, entertainment of the worst kind. Where is J. Springer he has a better show and it makes about as much sense.
Glenn Beck is an index card cultists. He can't think outside of his mouth-breather flash cards
yeah, funny how they never, ever play the tape...
Yes, I'm a douchebag, I can't help it. I was a liberal until I found out I could make money with this gimmick. Plus my cousin is in the HR dept. at CNN and got me this great gig when the other conservative, Limbaugh-type pundit got canned. I don't care if people hate me. I have no friends anyway.
Ok, I'm going to actually watch this clip (I haven't yet). Wish me luck. I will try not to throw anything at the screen.
I see day time ads for the content of Glenn Beck's show later that evening that often reflect an event that happened that same day. Regardless of a commenter's politics, how in-depth and insightful can their opinion be when they have to fill several minutes of airtime on a topic that might not gave existed a few hours earlier? You need time to put together something that adds to the discourse.
Plus, the way he constantly glances to the camera's upper right like he's speaking extemporaneously is so phoney, no pun intended.
Gosh, where was all the discussion of "context" with the Move-On ad (which I gladly donated to).
The reich-wingers are finding out that controversy can be a two-way street and they don't like it one bit.
Beck thinks he's as smart as Steven Colbert. NOT by a long shot!! Colbert is effective because he knows the truth and tells it in his sarcastic way.
Beck knows untruths and tells them.
I REALLY REALLY want to punch this guy in the face.
I hate it when cousins marry.....
Go to my happy place. Hummmmmmmmmmmm. Is that the g spot?
Glenn Beck has a show because he keeps people mad and stoopid.
tough times are ahead. every mad and stoopid person counts!
It's funny even though he is probably less "dangerous", watching Beck is harder than any other rightie for me. I think it is because he is so smug and has so much UNEARNED pseudo-confidence.
Glenn and Rush and ALL them guys and gals...
they think "context" is like Silly Putty and why shouldn't they?
how often have they been allowed to play with it like silly putty?
@ 49
'Beck is CNN’s loss leader attempt at giving them some street cred with the reichwingers to deflect some of their claims that every network except faux news has a “liberal bias.” '
I agree completely. The liberal media tactic is one of the most effective and destructive strategies the right has ever come up with. News agencies now feel that they have to be 50/50 even if reality is not. There's just no debating that the neocons got us into the messes we're in, but for every subversion of the fourth amendment (or what-have-you), there has to be equal time for John Edwards' haircut. That's fair and balanced now. It's gutted a truly adversarial press when it was (and is) needed most . Going to the mat for facts or giving context to facts is not the MSM's job anymore. Mindlessly repeating gov't sources is becasue, hey - that's reporting. No bias there.
GLEN BECK = " FLY SPECK "
Ok, I watched it. This guy is lame. Dreadfully lame. He couldn’t even read the cue cards. I’m sure most of you did not watch to the end because it was so painful but at the end he says “The only thing worse than being a socialist is denying you’re a socialist”. Well Beck, what is it. Are you a socialist?
god bless the sob who has to sift through all this crap to give us 5 minutes of hell.
Hi, Becko. Becko the clowno.
It's because Beck and all the other scumbag, hate monguering and Reslug gnats can't explain away Limp-Dick Blimpaugh's serious trashing of our brave troops, so they must lie, deny and blame everybody else for his rabid, hate spewing shit.
I refuse to watch. I like my brain cells too much.
I bet if he was given the kind of beating he deserves, that whiny voice pleading & begging for you to stop would sound so gratifying.
...god, I can't listen to this assbag. He is pulling stuff out of THIN AIR, making it up and then acting as if that is the argument...there is no argument. Kill Your TV. Now...
There are so many deserving candidates, but I nominate Glenn Beck for the Stupidest Man in America Award.
You know what really bugs me about Beck? It's not the fact that he is factless and is willing to spew anything they hand to him no matter how ridiculous it is. It's that he thinks he's so darn funny. He laughs at his own stupid jokes. In fact, if he didnt laugh at them I probably wouldnt even realize he was trying to be funny. I remember sitting in a hotel room last year and I turned on the tv. CNN was on. Becks show was on. I left the channel on for a few minutes. The date was 6/6/06. I remember the date for two reasons. My deceased brothers first grandchild was born on that morning (yes we all had a good laugh about that) and Beck was listing his candidates for the Anti-Christ. I watched for a few minutes and my daughter, who was 7 at the time, looks at me and says "he's not funny". I told I know but he thinks he is. Now, I ask you. If my 7 year old can figure by just watching for about 2 minutes why can't grown adults figure out he's an idiot!?
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You know, I went to my happy place, but it didn't work. And I only watched part of the clip. It's getting to the point where I can't take it anymore.
My fallacy counter exploded halfway through the clip.
flyng_fool @ 83:
So if all you riech-wingers have these fancy jobs that keep you too busy to see what the "other" side (aka- most Americans) has to say, what are you doing on this post right now? Shouldn't you be pumping gas somewhere?
Site Monitor: You should know better than respond to flame bait. We're only going to delete it.
When did sociallism as seen in many scandinavian countries become the red menace? The only thing worse than being a socialist is denying you’re a socialist. I would contend there are worse things, like being an cog in a corparate machine with no insurance for you or your children. I'm sure he would contend that you should just get a better job, and since CNN seems to be hiring idiots at big salaries, maybe he is right.
Sad thing is I agree with him to some extent in that I believe Rush was actually trying to say that it is easy to call a radio show and say, "hey Bob Shmegegy here, just back from 15 months in Iraq....", although since Rush has since lied about it, maybe he was saying that any soldier that dissagrees with him is a phony.
I'm sorry Nicole. I can't make myself watch this.
unwatchable
Captain Kangaroo @ 91:
I'm curious. Why does an idiot like Glenn Beck get all these fancy promotions and air time even though his ratings are in the tank, while Stephanie Miller has a show taking off all over the place, and she's still relegated to radio? Seems like that "Liberal Media" likes to reinforce bad behavior, no?
Is it just me, or is this whole show an act? The guy always has a smile on his face. I also don't believe O'Reilly believes half the thing he says. On the other hand, Hannity is a truly evil man. But Beck, whenever I watch him, I always get the feeling that the guy's full of shit. This segment, again, is full of exaggerated hand movements and little smirks. Nobody should take him seriously.
Hmm.......Glen Beck shows how content is everything then show an example of moveon.org ad by omitting the content of that ad in NY Times, then ask to follow the money, then show media matter and moveon.org, that get most of its funding from the people and not corporation. However instead of defend Rush Comments, he doesn't get anywhere near there to explain his finding, and jump to "murtha murder story" of news punditry magic act. I think you have to listen to the whole Rush Limbaugh content to even get that he was referring to all the phony soldiers that speak out against the war.
Have I miss anything?
I can't understand why Rush doesn't say it is a misunderstanding like when John Kerry goofed up on his joke and he apologized. The difference is Rush knew what he said is what he meant. The piece of shit never served in the military so that puts just above whale shit when he discusses anything to do with the military.
This is news?!
this is why cnn, msnbc, the nyt and the network news shows are more dangerous than foxnews could ever be...
Foxnews is dangerous. At one of the YMCA I used to work at would require to turn all the channels to Foxnews when opening the place.
flyng_fool @ 100:
Oh I get it... you were making an ironic/sarcastic indirect attack on people like Beck and Limbaugh then! Nice one! You had me fooled. For a minute there I thought you might be making a hideously ironic comment given the topic of the post.
yeah foxnews is on all the tv's at the well's fargo i use. but only the 30% idiots believe that junk...
Nicolle, this isnt a meritocracy. People have what they have either due to focused pursuit of that which they covet or dumb luck. Most of us dont pursue the extremes. Its not about merit, its about satisfying a covetous nature.
The real talent here is in winning the 'ladder of success' battles. Meaningless to most (rational) people.
There is a larger issue.
In situations like this, the market is normally used as the excuse. The market only delivers what is desired etc. Of course this assumes that 1) marketing doesnt work (psychology) and 2) people are actually socially organized, which is a requirement for organized collective statements - social or economic and 3) business elements are themselves not philosophically driven.
This is a fascist society. Three is false.
People are forced to live in isolation (my opinion). Two is false.
Marketing works - they start in childhood. One is false.
Unless and until these issues are addressed, you (collective) wont be a primary decider in whether people like Beck have shows. (My opinion) Further, once the influence of these activist business philosophies are applied to government, you face at least a force that is either given public financial support (externalizing costs to the public), subject to preferential bias in government, protection via bodies of law - or all three.
Why does he have a show? Relentless, inexorable pursuit of wealth at any cost.
Get rid of Beck, you still have the problem.
Note - as an old guy, I remember the first marketing to children in the mid '60s. The public was outraged and demanded laws that forbade marketing to children. Business promised they would stop and self police so it would never happen again. Have you seen TV on saturday mornings? Not surprisingly, the zero sum social darwinists (ZSSD's) lied. They lied for money and the win. They burned the children of america to the ground for money. From their perspective, a good deal.
Beck is a symptom.
Please, for the love of everything holy, why does this man have a show?
Because CNN wants to be sure to get the 'smirking-conservative-warhawks-that-hate-everyone-else' Demographic
George Soros, one of the world's most successful capitalists, has taken over the Democratic Party in order to push a Socialist agenda. Is this what Glenn Beck is saying?
I posted this yesterday:(from MM)
"Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media."
MM exists to monitor conservative misinformation.Period.
Glenn Beck is a regular unwilling contributor to the site,so he isn't coming into this "debate" without a bias of his own,which naturally,he left undisclosed.
He also failed to prove how Rush was "taken out of context" so doubtless,he will be making yet another "appearance" at MM.
CNN and their librul bias strikes again!
mrogi @ 102:
Yup... he did it quietly in the night with secret Commie ninjas and using anti-Democracy gas. The poor Democratic Party never knew what hit it. He just used Capitalism to fund his secret campaign. He secretly sleeps on a pillow with Karl Marx embroidered on it.
I'm obviously sacrastic, but I bet you this is what the Beck-ites actually believe.
Never mind why he has a TV show. Why does he have a pulse?
cnn is simply trying to apear as dumb and racist and sadistic and indifferent and assinine ans immature and ignorant and rabid and destructive as fuxNoise. with brickhead, here, they have a winner!
I stopped watching CNN when they gave this doushebag a show! Thank God I live in a part of the country where when you mention the name Glenn Beck, people either have no clue who the fuck he is, or simply look at you like you just took a shit on the sidewalk! That's how of little consequence this doushebag is in Chicago!
Glenn Beck has cute fat chipmunk cheeks. How much wood would Glenn Beck chuck if Glenn Beck could chuck wood?
anon @ 100:
I believe you pretty-much nailed it! (My opinion)
Don't these fuckers realize how stupid they sound when they ALL repeat the EXACT SAME talking points?
Beck's spiel is the SAME one given by Hannity, Rush, Coulter, O'Reilly, etc. etc.
By the way, Glennie, the majority of Americans STILL don't know who George Soros is, and still don't care who or what he funds. That talking point has long since lost its luster.
Wait...Rush was not taken out of context on Media Matters, but that is what Republicans are saying. And many Democrats did vote to censure MoveOn.org, which I think was a mistake. It was mistake because it is a waste of time and there is an issue of free speech in America. Now the Democrats try to play the same game as the Republicans and are surprised the Republicans will not waiver in their support for their own propagandists. When are the Democrats going to learn and grow a backbone?
OH, MY GOD!
Context may be everything, but not everything equates to context.
Besides the "Magic Underwear", this particular Mormon is just an asshole.
DEMOCRATS ARE NOT SOCIALISTS!
REPUBLICANS ARE FASCISTS!
Proves what everyone knew all along that the Reslugs are proud of these, low rated, blathering idiots, that habitually lie for the Big Ass Boil, Limp-Dick and Dumbya.
112 Brian
Here ya go Brian...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JVBQYwuTbo
mrogi @ 102:
Just, just... don't try to make sense of what this moron says. The cognitive dissonance of what passes for a right winger these days is truly a sight to behold. In their race to the bottom, the conservatives have managed to pull the rest of us into their cesspool.
I think the problem can be solved rather speedily if we can get our less apt conservative pinheads to agree on what certain words mean. Rush, just like the word sissy, should be a pejorative for a boy or man to indicate or imply that he is like a sister, that is, effeminate and fails to behave according to, even by ultra-conformist “standards”, the traditional male gender role. Generally, it implies a lack of the valor and stoicism. It should also imply interests seen as strikingly un-masculine. This negative connotation may be given to anyone as an insult, or a badge of honor if you happen to host a “talk” show where the alternate uses of bathroom condiments are considered, or you speak like tweety bird, etc... Several variations, such as "sissy boy" or "Cheney" or “Rove” or George W. Bush”, exist and any term can become pejorative or insulting if preceded by "sissy", “Dik” or “Turd Blossom” or “that stupid moron in the white house” and applied to a boy or a man. Sissy is the male converse of tomboy, which, like Anndrogynous Coulter, has no positive connotations or demonstrable firing synapses. Even amongst gay men, behavior thought of as sissy or camp produces mixed reactions, especially amongst GOPpers when Rush returns from one of his notorious “vacations”.
Stoicism's prime directives are virtue, reason, and natural law. Stoics believe that, by mastering passions and emotions, it is possible to overcome the discord of the outside world and find peace within oneself, even if your I.Q. bogs down in the low twenties, like so many of our conservative butt heads. Stoicism holds that passions are the result of lacking understanding of truth, and that the pursuit of truth is virtuous. which are thought important to the male role, as well as most well-adjusted adults.
bizona @ 106:
LOL -- True. Even Bill Frist would have a hard time seeing evidence of brain activity.
I once saw the most enlightening bumper sticker I have ever seen. It read:
"USA:
SOCIALISM FOR THE RICH
CAPITALISM FOR THE POOR"
When you consider the overwhelming amount of truth in this statement, it just makes Glen Beck's remarks all the more ironic.
Layne @ 111:
Read Orwell's 1984. George Soros serves as the GOP's Goldstein...the imaginary boogeyman (though Soros is a real person) who is trying to destroy their society. Actually, the quotes attributed to Goldstein--anti Big Brother and Oceania--are actually the truth, but the people have been so dumbed downby fear, ignorance and propaganda, that they don't recognize that Big Brother is a lie and their rulers are actually the enemy. Sound familiar?
Darth_Romney @ 123:
It seems like the GOP is trying to paint Soros with the same brush that we paint Cheney..the uber-rich and powerful, Darth Vader-esque, Howard Hughes type; often heard and seldom seen.
But the Soros complaints sound like a lot of sour grapes. How many uber-billionaires in this world are Republicans? If you gather a list of all the GOP talking points on Soros, couldn't you easily substitute "Soros" with "Murdoch"?
Besides that, how much political influence does Soros really have?
Regardless, the key line from Glennie came when he asked the audience do they want their party run by Michael Moore. Considering Moore favors immediate withdrawal (along with 70% of the American people), umm...not a bad idea!
But your 1984 comparison makes perfect sense, and sounds very familiar. The last 60 years there have been nothing BUT boogeymen ingrained in the American subconscious, some real and some exaggerated. And the ones speaking against the Big Brother are the ones shouted down--when in fact the ones dissenting are in the right.
Yes, sounds too familiar...
Let's parse words like Beck and the Repugs: The MoveOn.org add didn't actually CALL Petraeus 'General Betray-us', it asked the question - see the question mark at the end.
Doesn't Soros live in France? How will Democrats tax him to death?
"The only thing worse than Being a socialist is denying it." Really? So it doesn't actually matter IF you ARE a socialist, if you deny being one it is worse?!?!? Wow, that is quite the leap of logic, Glenn.
Who is the idiot speaking to?, more idiots!
Mass Psychosis
- JJ
Repeating the lie that Soros funds Media Matters. One day the congress will enact the fact police and smack this bastard upside the head.
I'm sorry, I couldn't hear part of this when I was barfing. Did he say something about well-funded people with an agenda who lie, distort, and take things out of context? Was he talking about the right-wing machine and Richard Mellon Scaife?
Does anyone else appear to have the gene that causes you to want to projectile vomit whenever he speaks?
How is Soros a socialist when he made all his own money? Unlike Chimp who inherited his money then steals our money for his oil wars then want sto turn our democracy into a fascist state.
Someone must have switched Karl Roves political play book in that telepromter because evertthing Beck accused left wing (read: centrist) groups of is what Karl Rove and the reich wing noise machine are guilty of.
MoveOn, Soros, Kos, blogs, etc...must really be taking a toll on the fascists reich's America hating agenda because they are definately on the reich wing noise machine's radar screen. I donated to MoveOn after the Betrayus faux rage and I'm not George Soros.
Murtha is anti troop? Murtha served in war, what war did you serve in Beck you chickenhawk piece of shit? GOP Swiftboating 101-take the opponent's strength and turn it against them.
Cancel your cable subscription folks, send the message. No more corporatist propaganda. You will find as I have since I cancelled mine less TV = more happy anyway, and you can get your unfiltered truth online free from the shout down America hating reich wing blowhards like Beck and his ilk.
Glenn Beck is such a f***ing lightweight, he doesn't even know
what a "context" is.
Honestly, Glenn and Sean Hannity are (or must be) sleeping with
Roger Ailes or Rupert Murdoch, or both, because that's the only
explanation for how either of those 2 guys got their own television shows.
Not sure if anyone caught this - He said that the Repugs were taken over by fringe elements - but they figured it out and have fixed that. First off HAHAHAHAHAHA. Second I will bet you can expect to hear more of that as Nov08 rolls up.
"The dems have been taken over by fringe elements and we know what we are talking about cause it happened to us but we fixed it so vote for us."
What he missed is that the dems have been taken over by the fringe - that 70% fringe called most sane people.
This guy Beck is a just the latest rightwing mouthpiece on the airways who's trying to make a name for himself (and make more money for himself) by trying to be outrageous and being a hypocrite at the same time. I really don't think he'll be around very long. He's not very interesting or smart (even for a rightwinger).
This too will pass.
Okay, I'm done puking.
Nicolle, it was even worse than you said. He's all that, plus....he is a complete moron with delusions of adequacy ; he presumes to talk down upon his betters, people who - even if they were in a coma - are smarter than he will ever be on the best day he is ever going to have. He is spewing his pollution with the obviously righteous conviction that what he says is profound.
He's a very sick puppy. If he were my puppy, compassion would require that I take him to the vet and have him put down. For one who is beyond all hope of help, it would be the merciful thing to do.
Put a gun in his hands and send him to the front lines. But put David Vitter's diaper on him first for when he craps himself.
Paul @ 133:
I think he got that style from his mental equal, that towering intellect, Chimpy McFlightsuit. I wish they were both your sick puppies...
He continues to be on TV because 30% of the people think like he does, and within that 30% is a lot of money and powerful people who control our corporate institutions.
As Mark Twain said, " I'm not sure if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who believe it".
Why does this man have a show? Because most of Middle America are xenophobic, jingoistic scumbags that eat up this crap like it's Mom's apple pie.
TimV @ 36:
Heh, sorry. Sarcasm is hard to tell online sometimes.
124 Layne
Don't forget Richard Mellon Scaife.
You know on every media matters article I've ever seen the entire context is provided, usually to the tune of at least 3 paragraphs before and after the exact statement made, and any bias is usually called out explicitly. This guy accuses liberals for taking Rush out of context but never shows one example of this happening?
I think that is the difference between liberals and conservatives. Liberals know what context is... we look for it when we don't see it. And just like this guy does in his clip, he takes something the conservatices are terrible at (context in this case) and the liberals are good at, and then he accuses the liberals of being terrible at it. Thus he establishes into the minds of the dittoheads that liberals make things up. Oh and note the "this is something both parties do" line where he guards himself against rebuttal because he can always state "Oh well that is just one isolated incident" when confronted with examples.
Some Democrats do take liberties with context... but this guy specifically takes on Media Matters, and that is wholeheartedly un-true.
Why wasn't Glenn Beck arguing that Don Imus was referring to gardening implements when he made the statements that got him fired?
miss_kitty @ 135:
Miss_kitty,
I wish that, too.
Life's too short to listen to this asswipe.
Sorry.
Context? OK.
I got yer context right here!
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Glenn Beck is an adorable fat guy. Look at his fat face. Little old ladies would give anything to pinch those chubby cheeks.
Tom (not Tom) @ 68:
:lol:
why does this man have a show? To keep people stupid.
I don't watch CNN any longer. And for that there is only one reason.
- One little fatheaded, racist, torture loving, bile spewing reason.
As much as I believe that Glenn Beck is a despicable and rather pedestrian political hack, I'm all for his right to spew whatever he wants...that's what free speech is all about. If people actually tune in despite all the evidence he's thus far provided that his show is not worth watching (except for puerile entertainment), then they have the talk-show they deserve.
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