*yawn* Pelosi is a bore.

I'm sure this has been pointed out, but

CHRIS WALLACE IS A SUPREME HACK AND A DISGRACE TO HIS REAL JOURNALIST FATHER MIKE WALLACE.
It's a sign of the degeneration of Mainstream journalism in America in general, Democracy Now, C&L and many others excepted.

I would have said "Do you?" and then "Doesn't work, does it?"

Nothing fails like prayer.

Do you pray for the ability to stop your compulsive masturbation, Chris?

Disillusioned youth @ 2:

*yawn* Pelosi is a bore.

And you kid are stupid, but of course you've been told
this fact many times so no doubt you're bored hearing
this fact over and over again.

what a douchebag.

from the excellent documentary by Norman Solomon, War Made Easy (transcript here )

NORMAN SOLOMON: The rhetoric about shifting the burden of fighting the insurgency onto the shoulders of Iraqi people themselves is very enticing for a president because it’sa way of saying to people in the United States, “Hey, we’re going to be out of there, it’s just a matter of time.”

DONALD RUMSFELD: There isn’t a person at this table who agrees with you that we’rein a quagmire and that there’s no end in sight.

NORMAN SOLOMON: The media and political focus on the word quagmire is a good example of how an issue can be framed very narrowly.

JAMIE MCINTYRE, CNN: The criticism would be that you’re in a situation from whichthere’s no good way to extricate yourself.

DONALD RUMSFELD: Then the word clearly would not be a good one.

NORMAN SOLOMON: Talking about a quagmire seems to be a positive way of
fomenting debate because then we can argue about whether the war is actually working
out well.

SENATOR EDWARD KENNEDY: We are now in a seemingly intractable quagmire.

SENATOR CHUCK HAGEL: That terrible word quagmire.

ROBERT DALLEK, PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN: This could be or seems to be a
kind of quagmire.

NORMAN SOLOMON: Quagmire is really a false sort of a critique because it says really the problem here is what the war is doing to the United States. Are we able to win.

ANDERSON COOPER: Are we winning in Iraq?

BILL O’REILLY: Do you want the United States to win in Iraq?

DAVID GERGEN, CNN: I can’t tell who’s winning and who’s losing.

SENATOR CARL LEVIN: Do you believe that we are currently winning in Iraq?

DEFENSE SECRETARY ROBERT GATES: We are not winning but we are not losing.

SECRETARY COLIN POWELL: We are losing.

GENERAL GEORGE CASEY: We’re winning it.

NEWS REPORTER TO SOLDIER: You’re winning this war?

SOLDIER: I couldn’t tell you.

NORMAN SOLOMON: And a big problem with the media focus is that it sees the war through the eyes of the Americans, through the eyes of the occupiers, rather than those who are bearing the brunt of the war in human terms.

Better answer:

Yes, I pray that god, in his infinite wisdom, will come down and clean up the mess that Bush created with the help of smug little pricks like yourself.

CruzBustamove @ 11:

Why do dems even justify Faux News' existence by appearing on their stupid fucking shows and subjecting themselves to stupid fucking questions from stupid fucking "interviewers". Does Mike Wallace pray for his stupid fucking son?

My sentiments exactly!!!!!! Nicely Done!!!

Can you imagine a host on a real news show asking such a f*cked up question to a Republican?

Next up: Glenn Beck will ask Nancy if there's a difference between her and the "suiciders".

I pray that Pelosi has better sense than to appear on Fox again. I also pray that America will one day outgrow its superstitious beliefs. I hope Lord Ganesh is listening to my prayers.

Chris
No fair asking Bush this question, He would hit it out of the park. How about asking Limbaugh And Coulter? Do they pray for sick Children? For more money? A new book tour?

That's what she gets for going on FAUX "News". Why these people continue to give FAUX legitimacy is beyond me. It isn't like everybody who watches FAUX isn't a Bush zombie nor is it remotely possible that any of that audience will ever be voting Democratic.

"praying" or rather "wishing really, really hard" is about all the repukes can do anymore at this time in order to get a win out of Iraq.

The Democrats have already won the war. They've shown without a shadow of a doubt that conservative can't run a country.

rehctaw @ 29:

He didn't get to it, but my copy of his notes says he planned to ask the speaker whether aborted fetuses taste like chicken.

You'd have to direct that question to Darth Cheney.....

As Norman Solomon points out, the problem is with the question itself. "Quagmire is really a false sort of a critique because it says really the problem here is what the war is doing to the United States. Are we able to win.... And a big problem with the media focus is that it sees the war through the eyes of the Americans, through the eyes of the occupiers, rather than those who are bearing the brunt of the war in human terms."

Kuparuk @ 25:

Of course it's a trick question.

Nobody has defined "win" yet.

Exactly the point. Rather than taking the bait, say I pray for their survival and to end the suffering of their friends and family back home.

Prey.

What he wanted from Pelosi. "What are you thinking Chris, Democrats don't pray."

Solomon on how embedding 'reporters' enables the propagandists, Vietnam, and cutting and running.

NORMAN SOLOMON: And the embedding process was actually a new wrinkle in an old game – which was, and is, propaganda for war.

SEAN PENN: Praise for the embedding process as a step forward in balanced war
reporting has often invoked comparisons to media coverage of the Vietnam War.

NORMAN SOLOMON: A myth has kind of grown up after the Vietnam that the
reporting was very tough, that Americans saw on their television sets the brutality of the
war as it unfolded. And people often hark back to that as a standard that should now be
rediscovered or emulated.

MORLEY SAFER: This is what the war in Vietnam is all about.

NORMAN SOLOMON: Yes, there was exceptional reporting, but it was the exception.
And so you had the Zippo lighters being used by the GI’s burning down the huts of a
village that Morley Safer on CBS reported. Well, people mention that actually because it
was unusual. And in point of fact very little about the tremendous violence in that war was conveyed through the television set, especially when the US government was
responsible for the human suffering. That is in a way the most taboo – to show in detail,
graphic human detail, what’s involved when bombs, missiles, mortars paid for by US
taxpayers do what their designed to do … which is to kill and to maim.

PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN: I know that this is a great concern, I think it’s part of
the Vietnam syndrome.

WALTER CRONKITE: The Vietnam Syndrome that President Reagan mentioned was a
reference to America’s attempt to forget its most unpopular war.

PRESIDENT GEORGE H.W. BUSH: This will not be another Vietnam. Our troops will
have the best possible support in the entire world and they will not be asked to fight with
one hand tied behind their back.

SEAN PENN: Like President Reagan before him, President George H.W. Bush explicitly
set out during the first Gulf War to rid the national psyche of the so-called Vietnam
Syndrome, the common belief after the bloody and protracted conflict in Vietnam that the
American public no longer had the stomach for war unless guaranteed swift, easy and
decisive victory.

DOCUMENTARY NARRATOR FROM TV SPECIAL “INSIDE THE PENTAGON”:
Precision weapons and the strategic use of air power helped make the Gulf War an
enormous operational victory for the Pentagon, helping it move past the legacy of
Vietnam.

PRESIDENT GEORGE H.W. BUSH: It’s a proud day for America, and by God we’ve
kicked Vietnam Syndrome once and for all. Thank you very, very much.

NORMAN SOLOMON: The idea is that supposedly the public is not willing to back
strong military action because people have become too skittish about US casualties. In
fact, if you look at the actual course of public opinion there’s been a real willingness to
support wars without exception at the beginning.
Public support for the Second World War never fell below 77%, according to opinion
polls. But during the Vietnam War, public support fell to about 30%, and within a couple
of years of the US occupation of Iraq public support was down to almost 30% among the
US population.
So what’s the difference? In one case, WWII, the US public never felt that the war was
fundamentally based on deception. But if it emerges that the war can’t be won quickly,
and that the war was based on deceptions, then people have turned against the war.
So, first, the public has to be sold on the need to attack. Then, after the war's under way,
withdrawal needs to be put forward as an unacceptable option.

PRESIDENT RICHARD NIXON: Withdrawal of all American forces from Vietnam
would be a disaster.

PRESIDENT LYNDON JOHNSON: Let no one think for a moment that retreat from
Vietnam would bring an end to conflict.

PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH: We're not leaving, so long as I’m the President. That
would be a huge mistake.

PRESIDENT RICHARD NIXON: Our allies would lose confidence in America.

PRESIDENT LYNDON JOHNSON: To yield to force in Vietnam would weaken that
confidence.

PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH: Any sign that says we're going to leave before the
job is done simply emboldens terrorists.

PRESIDENT RICHARD NIXON: A retreat of the United States from Vietnam would be
a communist victory, a victory of massive proportions and would lead to World War III.

PRESIDENT LYNDON JOHNSON: If this little nation goes down the drain and can't
maintain their independence, ask yourself what's going to happen to all the other little
nations.

PRESIDENT RICHARD NIXON: It would not bring peace. It would bring more war.

NORMAN SOLOMON: And many propaganda lines become stock and trade of those
who started the war in the first place.

PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH: The party of FDR and the party of Harry Truman has
become the party of “cut and run.”

REP. J.D. HAYWORTH: The American people will not stand for surrender.

REP. JEAN SCHMIDT: Cowards cut and run.

REP. PATRICK MCHENRY: They're advocating a policy called “cut and run.”

KARL ROVE: That party's old pattern of cutting and running.

REP. CHARLIE NORWOOD: If we high-tailed it and cut and run --

PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH (MONTAGE): We won’t cut and run.
Cut and run.

Cut and run.
We will not cut and run.
Cut and run.

ANDERSON COOPER: Cut and run. Cut and run. How do you respond?

PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH (MONTAGE): We will stay the course.
We must stay the course.
We stay the course.
We will stay the course.
And we're not going to cut and run, if I’m in the Oval Office.

NORMAN SOLOMON: All a president has to do is start a war, and these arguments kick
in that you can't stop it. So it's a real incentive for a president to lie, to deceive, to
manipulate sufficiently to get the war started. And then they've got a long way to go
without any sort of substantive challenge that says, hey, this war has to end.

What is this Mr. Wallace -- a religious test? The assumption is that Chicken-hawks FOR the war are obviously praying and caring harder?

Jerk. I'm so sick of this phony religiosity. I'm absolutely sure there is a memo on "question the religiousness of the guest" this week. They had a similar lame-ass question at the Democratic debates.

Every week you can detect a theme with these f-ing shills. Right now, the chicken-hawk-shill-army is hyping up the "security issue" for our troops by fighters coming from Iran (1% Iranian vs. 60% Saudi -- sure, we detect BS here). They all squawk to the same tune. I'm wondering if we get to enjoy a whole week of these; "Do you really, really pray?" questions.

m @ 35:

I pray that someone would take a big stick and liberally apply it to Wallace's forehead. Repeat as required, Christ willing...

>> Blessed be the whack-a-shill, amen.

You know, I think we need a wack-a-mole game with the heads of all these pundits popping up as pimples on the Chimperor's rear-end. It would provide me with good exercise and a release of stress.

Margaret @ 26:

That's what she gets for going on FAUX "News". Why these people continue to give FAUX legitimacy is beyond me. It isn't like everybody who watches FAUX isn't a Bush zombie nor is it remotely possible that any of that audience will ever be voting Democratic.

Exactly. It's high time every rational person starts treating FUX News like the sham that it is. No more pretending that it's a real news outlet.

The questions Chris Wallace would really like to ask? Lol. What a concept!

1. Do you think most Democrats are happy that they are causing the US to fail in Iraq?
2. Why do you think surrender is so attractive to most Democrat?
3. Isn't the socialization of health care the start of a Democrat plot to destroy capitalism?
4. Why do Democrats want to punish the rich by making them pay the same percentage of all their pay to social security as everyone making 75,000 per year or less is paying? Is saving Social Security really that important.

Crap, I'm not very good at this. Chris does better job of making a fool of himself on his own.

This is why mixing religion and politics is quite evil as witnessed by that very juvenile-like question. It is another reason why we need more Atheists and Agnostics to run for public office as well.

Religion is a bunch of b.s. anyway and people would do better by not admitting in public how "Catholic or Christian" they are, as in Pelosi's case. On another note, it was an insulting question, for its none of Chris Wallace's business who Pelosi prays to or about unless she wants to speak of it on her own. Yes, it was meant to be an offensive question and spark more controversy for the very narcissists over at FOX Noise. Chris Wallace is despicable just like his father Mike Wallace. Mike Wallace is a liar regarding Iran but that is a whole different thread.

Vivek @ 40:

Solomon on how embedding 'reporters' enables the propagandists, Vietnam, and cutting and running.

NORMAN SOLOMON: And the embedding process was actually a new wrinkle in an old game – which was, and is, propaganda for war.

SEAN PENN: Praise for the embedding process as a step forward in balanced war
reporting has often invoked comparisons to media coverage of the Vietnam War.

*SNIP*
NORMAN SOLOMON: Yes, there was exceptional reporting, but it was the exception.
And so you had the Zippo lighters being used by the GI’s burning down the huts of a
village that Morley Safer on CBS reported. Well, people mention that actually because it
was unusual. And in point of fact very little about the tremendous violence in that war was conveyed through the television set, especially when the US government was
responsible for the human suffering. That is in a way the most taboo – to show in detail,
graphic human detail, what’s involved when bombs, missiles, mortars paid for by US
taxpayers do what their designed to do … which is to kill and to maim.
*SNIP*

>> GREAT points you made. The propaganda that the reich-wing chicken-hawks like to bring up is that "media made the war fail." Yeah, and there were all those years and millions of lives lost in Cambodia with nobody in the media reporting a thing -- I'm sure the atrocities would have ended with victory if they would have been allowed to kill EVERYONE.

Did everyone read about the 40-year secret war by France in the heart of Africa this week? Apparently, all that media coverage has prolonged the event -- oh wait, nobody heard of the atrocities for 40 years? However could THAT happen. Everybody knows that atrocities only happen when the press lets us know about it.

Nancy, you need to go back on that show, walk up to Chrissy Boy, and kick him SQUARE IN THE NUTS.

That's right, a square kick in the nuts is "off the table." So push the fucker down onto the floor before you do it. But for Fuck's Sake, do it.

She should have said
"I don't have to pray for victory. We won the war four years ago."

Next week on FNS: special guest commentator God asks the questions. Only on FOX!

"Actually, Chris, I'm praying my job approval ratings can rise to the level of George Bush's.

I'm praying no one will hold me accountable for keeping impeachment off the table.

I'm praying no one will notice I haven't done much so far.

And I'm praying my husband stays the F away from Whoopi Goldberg."

She deserved that for going on FOX.
What a stupid Democrat.

slippytoad @ 54:

Nancy, you need to go back on that show, walk up to Chrissy Boy, and kick him SQUARE IN THE NUTS.

That's right, a square kick in the nuts is "off the table." So push the fucker down onto the floor before you do it. But for Fuck's Sake, do it.

Actually now that I've thought on it for a moment, I'm wondering what the FUCK Pelosi was doing on Faux Propaganda in the first place. Jesus, what a fucking stupid bitch!

give us a list of questions Chris Wallace would really like to ask….

"Mrs. Pelosi, can you tell me where my upper lip went?"

What a smarmy little ass Chris Wallace is.
AND what a stupid question.

lookslike a couple of shitheads to me.

Joementum @ 16:

Better answer:

Yes, I pray that god, in his infinite wisdom, will come down and clean up the mess that Bush created with the help of smug little pricks like yourself.

I would love to hear somebody say this!

How could one ever work for Fox and have any self respect? Especially someone who considers themselves a 'journalist'? Can you imagine applying for a job at another network with Fox News on your resume?

When you see a story like this all you have to do is read the first few words 'Nancy Pelosi went on FOX News Sunday....', and you KNOW it's not going to be positive!

Why Democrats go on this network I will never know. The only people who watch it are the 25% who still support GW and think he's doing a wonderful job. There's nothing you could say that would change their minds, so what's the point!

Here's a response she should have used. "Win what?"

Vivek-Norman Solomon's War Made Easy is one of the best documentaries out there which explains why and how the U.S. is so hell bent upon going to war and how and why the American mainstream media are so quick to accept what the government tells them while very seldom challenging the propaganda that is handed to them.

I am rather stunned that some people believe that Pelosi gave the right response to Wallace. If Pelosi had an ounce of honesty in her, she would have said that the U.S. has about as much chance of "winning" in Iraq as it did in Vietnam. Who is the United States intent upon defeating, the 2 per cent of foreign fighters who are aligned against the U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq? It is the United States military that is the cause of the violence in Iraq. The best thing the United States can do is to heed the declaration from the Vietnam War: "Let us declare victory and bring the troops home."

this guy is a major asshole. he baits pelosi to state that she's prayiing for the troops to "win" in iraq. a reply of yes is that she recognizes that there is a war and that being so there is a need to "win." a reply of no would be no support for the troops, a major faux pas. this guy is too much. when it's all over and done, he needs to be tarred and feathered at the very least. or perhaps a major detention center where he can be subjected to the tortures that he has promoted with his tacit approval of the bush admin.

You guys, this is an idiot interviewing an idiot. Intelligent persons don't go near these shows anymore.

Nancy Pelosi is the proof that she was in the wrong party. I used to believed that democrats are a party of brainers. But in one of this digs there should be a loser. Why in Buddha's name should she ever guested in fox nut network show. In Cris i-suck-repugnant-cock program no less. Did she get any message from Bill's experience at all somebody in the democratic party should step in for her.
As for that nut job. Yes Cris she's praying to God and not not to repugnant s conservatism God which is Satan

What I have been finding increasingly frustrating is all of the outrage people display about these idiots. Everytime Beck or Wallace or Hannity or Scarborough or O'Reilly or Coulter....ad nauseum...say something ridiculous or venomous people get excited and really upset about it. I understand that it's very frustrating that fully thirty percent of the population of the United States are certifiable kool aide drinkers but the one thing to keep in mind is this: Did they say something outrageous? The answer is: Are their mouths open?

A.Citizen @ 83:

Scarabus @ 3:

I wish he had asked her what it could possibly mean at this point to "win" in Iraq.

She would never do that. She's part of the problem not the solution. I guess the reason that Impeachment is 'off the table...' is so when she goes on FAUX Noise her 'good friend and fellow citizen...' Mr. Wallace won't sandbag here with biased, fascist framing.

How's that workin' for ya Madame Speaker?

Ya arrogant useless 'Bush Bitch'.

Note: The use of 'Bitch' here is not pejorative merely the proper terminology for a female dog.

Clearly she needs a primary challenge and by someone more credible that Ms. Sheehan whom I do admire but.....

Nancy 'Off the Table' Pelosi really needs to get chucked out of office for utterly failing in her oath of office.

Agreed. She has painted herself and the American people into a corner with her "impeachment is off the table" remark. The right wing would crucify her now if she "flip flopped" and decided to put impeachment on the table. She really stepped in it big time with that comment.

Wallace: Are we both self-serving shitheads?

Pelosi: Oh, what a question!

Chris Wallace is a Jackass to say the least.

I would have answered Wallace's question with . . .

"Would you shut your (expletive) mouth? God's not going to help you; you need to do something for yourself, you sniveling ..."

Win what?

What's the new goal? The complete elimination of all Shiites? What will be the goal after that? Getting the water and power to work all the time, instead of just a few hours a day? Maybe they should shoot(no pun intended) for keeping Blackwater from killing everything that moves within a hundred feet of them? Maybe the Warpigs should work on building a free and stable Iraq? Oh wait a minute, that's what they have been doing the whole time, right? The kind freedom and democracy the WarPigs are selling.....I don't think they want it. Maybe the true goal is to turn Iraq into the biggest, bloodiest shithole in the world? If so, I think the WarPigs have achieved a glorious victory.

I went back to watch the clip again and counted 17 times the words "pray" or "praying" was used by Wallace and Pelosi.

I pray the day will come when America moves away from superstitious ChristianOfascist fundamentalism and pandering.

i sometimes wonder if pelosi knows wether her pantiehose are put on backwards or the right way, this gals as dim as a 30 watt light bulb!

Chris Wallace has the Speaker of the House of Representatives, (1st woman to ever hold the position in history).

And he asks her if she ever prays for the President, or the US troops.?

It surprises me Chris didn't ask if Pelosi prays for Merc's as Blackwater to be cost effective.

Chris Wallace should have set up the questions by prefacing that he (Wallace) prays for a brain but Murdoch has never responded to him...................!

slippytoad @ 62:

slippytoad @ 54:

I'm wondering what the FUCK Pelosi was doing on Faux Propaganda in the first place. Jesus, what a fucking stupid bitch!

Breaking the Democratic boycott of Faux thats what.
Typical DLC dem , 'stupid is as stupid does'

just the question "do you pray? . . ." she should have slapped the shit out of him-- this better then you christian shit has got to stop--

sorry for the screwed up editing above

slippytoad

quote
I’m wondering what the FUCK Pelosi was doing on Faux Propaganda in the first place. Jesus, what a fucking stupid bitch!
endquote

"Breaking the Democratic boycott of Faux thats what.
Typical DLC dem , ’stupid is as stupid does’"

is mine

Do you think I'm even close to as a good a journalist as my father, Mike Wallace? Every answer could only be: 'No, what a question.'

What the hell is Pelosi doing by appearing on Faux Noise?

Mr Mike Wallace, you did just a bang up job in bringing up your kid, almost as good a job as George Bush Sr did with George Jr.

Margaret @ 53:

Pelosi in this case was Wallace's temporary answer to Alan Colmes....defined as a Liberal, (but about as liberal as Charleton Heston), and used as a weak foil to emphasize his talking points. For example, one needs a foil to make the insinuation that Democrats may be praying for the United States to lose. This device puts Nancy Pelosi on the defense and makes her "responsible" for her behavior. And it worked like a charm. By failing to question the absurdity of what Wallace asked, she legitimized that level of discourse. By answering as she did, she gave credence to such an abominable question.
Again, the Democrats go on FAUX "News" and leave themselves open to their personal attacks and they themselves remove any ethical obstacles that might exist for that line of questioning by answering them time after time. I have no idea why. At least some of the presidential candidates were forced to acknowledge that when the blogs pressured them over attending a FAUX "Debate" on the subject.

Agreed. What are the motivations for people like Pelosi to appear with Chris Matthews? Is she seeking a spirit of bipartisan cooperation by appearing on the oppositions propoganda outlet? It aint gonna happen.

Do conservatives pray that we win? If so, how does the prayer go? "Lord, please use your hand to guide our smartbombs to their targets. Amen"

I would have asked Wallace if he prays for another 9-11 .

why did she even dignify that with an answer???

Wallace: Speaker Pelosi, How often do you think secular liberals, such as yourself, prey of Al Qaeda's Victory?

Wallace: As the first woman speaker of the house, do you feel as though you have enough testosterone to lead our congress in a time of war?

Wallace: Madam Speaker, If I were to drop you and Michael Moore off of the top of yhe New York Times building, which one of you would hit the ground first?

The earlier comment by hubcap says it best and he deserves kudos for pointing this out....Chris Wallace is a disgrace to his profession and his father, Mike Wallace. Wouldn't you think having a father with such strong ethics and professionalism, that something would rub off on the offspring? No Chris, everyone against this illegal war is praying for us to lose. That's what you really think, isn't it? Admit it.

the better question would have been, "Chris, do you have evidence that prayer helps in any way?"

The STEP trial showed "Intercessory prayer itself had no effect on complication-free recovery from CABG [bypass surgery], but certainty of receiving intercessory prayer was associated with a higher incidence of complications."

Interesting. So if you thought that someone was praying for you and you went through a heart bypass operation, you were at a higher risk of complications than if you weren't sure of someone being on their knees praying to Jeebus

Holy cow, what a dick.

the question about praying for the troops to win implies that "god" is on "our side."

Classic tactic by warmongers:

Vilify the enemy by lumping "them" with a singular label ("Iraqis," "Muslims," "islamofascists", etc)

Dehumanize them by pointing to their stadiums of dead bodies, their treatment of minorities and women

Pretend to promote peace

Claim that God Wills It

Mark Kurlansky talks about this MO in his book, Nonviolence: 25 Lessons In The History Of A Dangerous Idea:

Most warmakers try to claim that theirs is a holy war, a just war, that God is on their side, because their cause is just. In the United States the often-repeated inanity, "God bless America," though technically a request, is generally used as a declaration, God blesses America. And war is seldom far behind such assertions -- a holy war at that.

It is not surprising that the counter-Crusade and its war cries continue to echo in the Muslim world. Islamic militants from Palestinian Hamas to Libya's Muammar Qaddafi use Crusade and counter-Crusade imagery in speeches to rally the faithful. What is more surprising is that in the West, where the Crusades represent a humanitarian atrocity, an unconscionable act of aggression, a military failure, and one of the worst mistakes in the history of international relations, they also remain a model. Images of the Middle Ages and the Crusades in the movies, video games, and toys by corporations such as Disney steep children at an early age in the culture of warfare and killing. Urban's rallying cry has been copied over and over again. Contemporary right-wing American evangelists such as Billy Graham call their campaigns "crusades." In 2001, when U.S. president George W. Bush announced his "war on terror," his words echoed the messages of Pope Urban II. He even used the word crusade. Though George W. Bush may not even have known who Urban II was, Urban's famous speech had become the standard way to sell a war.

Actually I thought the more interesting and relevant question that Chris asked Nancy Pelosi was about the secret torture memos. She answered that she wasn't briefed. Senator John Rockefeller said he wasn't briefed. That directly contradicts Dana Perino who said Congress was briefed.

Scarabus @ 3:

I wish he had asked her what it could possibly mean at this point to "win" in Iraq.

Maybe SHE should have asked HIM that question. "Could you please define what you mean by 'win'?"

And are we surpised that Dana Perino LIED? What a shock. I love that word wanknificient.

There is no "winning" an occupation.

RobertPaul @ 119:

Why did you take Impeachment off the table?

I would imagine that Mike Wallace wishes for a retroactive abortion every time his jackass kid opens his mouth.

You said that so well. I was thinking when I saw this, "Good God, what does Mike Wallace think of his son?"
The guy is an asshole par excellance!

Oh vengeful and wrathful God, use our fervently patriotic sons and daughters to smite the heathen heretics and potential terorists. I pray to the all powerful, knowing Lord, that he lay waste to the betrayers of the true faith and to send them with speed into the bowels of hell to suffer unbearible agony for all eternity. God Bless America and the Republican Party! Amen!

Mike Wallace must have been a largely absentee father because his son clearly hates him. He has said his father has "lost it". He has said he "hammered" his father about the Dan Rather nat'l Guard memo. He has called his father a member of the "mainstream media" but does not consider himself "mainsteam media" even though Rupert Murdoch, Wallace's employer at Fox News, owns more large news outlets than anyone on the planet, let alone just in this country. How much more mainsteam can you get than to work for the guy who owns it all?

Jim @ 105:

Chris Wallace is not wearing an American Flag pin.

Why does Chris Wallace hate America?

Major gufffaw!

from Chapter 2: The Problem With States (Kurlansky, Nonviolence)

Active practitioners of nonviolence are always seen as a threat, a direct menace to the State. The State maintains its right to kill as its exclusive and jealously guarded privilege. Nothing makes this more clear than capital punishment, which argues that killing is wrong, and so the state must kill killers.

Mozi understood that this state's desire to kill had to do with power. He wrote, "Likened to these two are state officers and princes who make war on other countries, because they love their own country but not other countries and so seek to profit their own country at the expense of others."

To those who govern, the citizen who questions the right of the state to kill is attempting to impinge on the government's ability to further the nation's interests at the expense of other, hopefully weaker states. Thus the nonviolent activist is seen as a threat to the state.

curtilingus @ 56:

She should have said
"I don't have to pray for victory. We won the war four years ago."

Now that is an excellent comeback. Couple it with something like "And now I pray that we have the good sense to go home", and she would have hit a homerun.

Ruthless People @ 71:

Pelosi should have fired back: "What about you Chris what do you prav for? Do you pray that yet another family values hypocrite won't literally be caught with his pants down? Do you pray another Bush regime scandal won't take The Decider's approval ratings into the teens? Did you think Dick Cheney prayed that Halliburton would never get caught getting no bid government contracts at taxpayer expense? Do you think the American people pray we can get through one more year of the worst and most corrupt presidential administration in US history without further damage to this nation? Do you pray that Bush, Cheney, Lieberman and the neocons would send their own kids to fight on the front lines in a war they started and are cheerleading? What I pay for Chris is that you can sleep at night knowing you are selling your soul to the devil for a fat paycheck, no wonder your father wants nothing to do with you."

Another excellent comeback. I would take out the part about approval ratings, however. Pelosi and her congressional approval ratings make the Shrub's appear to be sky-high.

Wouldn't have it been funny if she answered "Yes. And Chris: do you pray that you have at least a fraction of the legacy of your father?"

Alex Higgins @ 143:

Does Chris Wallace believe that God helps to secure the outcomes of military conflicts? Really?

Does he think God is going to help secure the US occupation of Iraq? Why?

What is wrong with these people?

Two words: Manifest Destiny.