CNBC/MSNBC/The Wall Street Journal announced today that they are jointly sponsoring the first Republican Presidential debate of the 2008 campaign focusing on economic issues. The two-hour debate is scheduled to be held on October 9 in Dearborn, Mich. and will be broadcast live on CNBC, First in Business Worldwide, at 4 PM ET and re-broadcast on MSNBC at 9 PM ET that evening.
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The lyingest 2 housr you ever saw!
Is it me or are they all stumbling around already?
10 rich, old, white men (rolling eyes)
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Halliburton. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Bechtel. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
what's the use?
BaScOmBe @ 5:
There is none...it's what Republicans do best!
Nice photo...but where is Freddie Boy Thompson? Oh, probably photo was at another
of the Repig's "debates?"...
Does Frederick of Hollywood think he looks "youthful" by wearing a suit thats 2 sizes too small?
You boys all have you lapel flag pins?
pigs lined up ready for the slop drop!
Debate funnies:
Richard Nixon on Fred Thompson:
"Senator Brownback... Name one Federal program you'd cut to avoid raising taxes?"
Brownback: "The Advanced Technology Program."
500 Billion to the oil companies.
I wonder how come the Freepers aren't screaming bloody murder over this debate... after all, they believe that Dearborn is the Center of All Evil because of its high Muslim population.
Thmpson: "Every country that has restricted free trade has come to regret it."
Mugsy @ 15:
Huh... restricted free trade... isn't that an oxymoron? It's either restricted or free... not both.
These are some of the most loathsome people on the face of the earth. Also, could Rudy lisp a little bit more?
Following up the absolute worst president ever with the absolute worst group of presidential candidates ever!
These clowns will be a little upset when President Hillary Clinton has a line-item veto.
Looks like a convention of undertakers.
Either that or they're going for that March of the Penguins charm.
Yeah like Japan. They've never had Free Trade, and look how they suffer...
Giuliani: "The line item veto is illegal, and I took Bill Clinton to court over it."
Later (after back/forth with Romney): "I believe in the line item veto too!"
U.S. Stocks Rise; S&P 500, Dow Climb to Records
Oh no, not AGAIN?!? If these guys have to talk about the economy, what on earth will they be able to say?
If you get bored, you can go to the tongue twister version of the so-called debate.
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dennis @ 22:
We're seasick?
Doggiebobo @ 7:
my bet is: taking a nap! :lol:
ysbaddaden @ 24:
Sounds like a good explanation.
Just do what my ex and I used to do. Play the campaign debate drinking game! Every time somebody lies, you drink. We got wrecked during the "Presidential" debates in '04. I think this bunch of assholes could put somebody in the hospital.
dennis @ 22:
Well, naturally, they can lie once more and tell the viewing auidence that the middle and
low income families are benefiting from the rise in the Dow/S&P/Nasdaq..which is just
more BS.
Bill @ 18:
I think it's called PROGESS.
E @ 28:
Special rule this year: whenever Rudy mentions 9/11, take a drink...
...but something tells me everyone would succumb to alcohol poisoning within 30 minutes.
*Sigh*... Too bad that, despite how he's portrayed as some sort of hard-ass, tough-talking, no-nonsense interviewer who doesn't let politicians get by on platitudes and false logic, I'm expecting Chris Matthews to lob plenty of softballs to the candidates.
Doggiebobo @ 29:
Hey, I have a BS degree ya know!
I think this is like nascar. If you watch it long enough someone dies.
Blue Buddha @ 31:
It might be best to stick with beer or wine for this one :)
dennis @ 22:
How about pointing out which specific stocks are soaring highest, (Big Pharma perhaps? Oil-related maybe?) and then take off your sarcasm chip from your shoulder and explain what the Dow really has to do with the everyday life of typical Americans who don't play the market. Unless it really takes a drastic tumble, I would say not much effect at all on the rest of us.
How's that job market going? Invested in CD's lately? LOL!
Jesse @ 35:
Mogen David, I don't think anyone has gotten drunk on that one.
zugzug @ 34:
Plus you watch a bunch of morons zip around in circles as fast as possible.
Straight Shooter @ 36:
I just got the new Siouxsie Sioux album.
since I am not watching, has anyone asked them about the right wingers attacking a sick child and his family?
Except in nascar the data streaming at the bottom of the screen refers to the price for beer and pork rinds at walmart
Good thing there were no schedule conflicts, they can all show up. Oh I forgot, this is a white news debate. Latinos and African Americans are the ones who get the over scheduled line.
Why are is this being called the first republican debate? Have I lost it? I could have sworn they have been debating for quite awhile? The Dems too.
Dearborn, Mich?
Don't they know Dearborn has the the largest concentration of Arabs in North America?
Q to All: "Should a Dubai country be allowed to buy 20% of NASDAQ?"
Rudy: "Sure, if they..."
Paul: "I see no problem with it, if..."
Huckabee: "Not sure."
McCain: "Sure."
Romney: "Of course! Of course you let a country invest in the U.S."
Thompson: "The answer is yes. ... It all depends on National Security issues.", talks of "free trade.
Hunter: "No, because I don't trust them."
Brownback: "Yes.", talks of "free trade.
Tancredo: "No." unless it wants to buy Wal*Mart.
(oops: Dubai "company".)
tyree @ 10:
:)
Ya gotta admit, it's fun to watch in dark sort of way :-P
Like I told a friend this morning... The only way I'd go see this phony dog and pony show in person, is if they gave me a bucket of rotton tomatoes for the occasion... I'll probably tune in for a few minutes if I get home in time... under that 'know your enemy' concept... I doubt I'll be able to stomach much more than a few minutes of this liars fest...JD
Bonkers @ 47:
Than shouldn't the debate be held at a Krispy Kreme?
Q: "Has the Bush policy toward Iraq been the right one?"
Thompson: "I think it is." Goes on to talk about "Islamic fascism" and "a front on a much broader war."
And..just why the fuck should we watch these people who, to a man, are are so not qualified to be president spout inanities as answers to inane questions that have no bearing whatsoever to the very difficult circumstances we find ourselves in. All I can say is what the fuck.
Here is my question:
how can a group of you, with your vaunted educations. great wealth, and power be so goddamn ignorant that you would even deign to answer such frivolous bullshit.
Answer:
because I am a whore for wealth and power, and I will do whatever it takes to keep possession of that wealth and power for myself and a few selected individuals, I have no interest whatsoever in the well being or greater good of America or the world, I see no problem with bombing a nation helpless to defend itself, if it is done to protect the security of our corporate wealth and the continuing welfare of our stockholders..and on and on.
Jesse @ 32:
Is that before or after he compliments them on their cologne?
Still holding out hope that we'll find those pesky WMD! :D
Q: "Would we of gone to war in Iraq it it weren't for oil?"
Paul: "I don't think so."
Brownback: "Of course!" Then goes on to mention that "we haven't foundthe WMD's YET."
Jesse @ 35:
if you drink near-beer you'll still wind up intoxified.
My guess... After the waxing poetic on the cologne they wear.. Then comes the official lobbing of the softball questions... Tweety has his priorities ya know.................JD
soothsayer @ 54:
fred kniows where they are.
Thompson is going on about what a threat Saddam was and how dangerous "he would of become" had he of "been left to his own devices".
Romney wants to bomb Iran.
"take the action necessary..."
so who is winning?
Hunter: Iran is "on the path" to a nuclear device.
Mugsy
Romney also wants to build Guantanamo's like they were McDonald's restaraunts.
Even Bush isn't pushing the "nucular weapon" theory about Iran anymore. They are still trying to scare everyone into compliance I see.
Furthermore, I am embarrassed for myself and my country that these are the best we have to offer as leaders of this nation, and all of you will flame me, but I don't see anything on the left that gives me any hope for anything other than evil mediocrity.
Huckabee would go to Congress before attacking Iran: "if you've got the time."
9/11!
Mugsy @ 59:
Mugsy, thanks for posting these "highlights" (ugh)--
Mugsy @ 55:
I think they're buried next to Jimmy Hoffa.
Giuliani worked three 9/11s into that response, while saber-rattling with Iran.
BaScOmBe @ 56:
And now, for some reason, we bring you what we're calling the first Republican debate, brought to you by Coors Cutter!
Rudy on Hillary's bill to require the President to go to Congress before attacking a nuke facility in Iran:
"It is desirable if possible, but". Two sentences later: "9/11"
who is the female moderator? she's beautiful
wow, thompson has been so boring and dull the more you hear him the less support he'll get
E @ 28:
This time, a drink for every "9/11" to come out of Rudy's mouth would render you comatose.
Rudy just echoed Howard Dean's criticism on "the lack of an energy Apollo program after 9/11", but did not acknowledge Dean or the Democrats.
Mugsy @ 66:
At least Huckabee mentions Congress...
Rudy G....911, 911, 911, 911....I watched for less than 10 minutes and 911 was mentioned
6 times by Rudy. The "turrest" are coming, they are everywhere; be afraid, be very afraid;
hid in you basement...fear, fear, fear/ 911, 911...that's all Rudy talks about. He is a fool
Browback believes in "environmentally sound" drilling in ANWAR.
Tancredo wants to drill for oil "everywhere possible" to help reduce our dependency on foreign oil.
Mugsy @ 79:
No, not true...I think I heard him say everywhere except Crawford, Texas
Where's Keyes?
Jesus, Tancredo is a drilling fool.
Anyone counting number of times the term "Islamo-fascism" is used?
economic issues? GOP?
Should be good for laughs.
Did anyone else notice that answers given by all with respect to "attacking Iran" were
premised on the proposal that Hillary has before the U.S. Senate; being that BEFORE
any Pres. can inititate a pre-emptive war, he/she must go to Congress for authorization.
RON PAUL ... the only GOP person running wirth a grain.
Bob-in-Northern-Thailand @ 86:
worth not wirth
They're not saying anything!!!!!! Their mouths are moving, a lot of blinking of the eyes, but nothing being said.
Strawberry @ 88:
Turn the volume up. I keep hearing blah blah 9/11 blah blah blah
Jesus, Hillary scares the hell out of these guys.
Tancredo is sooooo gay. My gaydar is going off the charts and I'm a chick.
Brownback: "This country ROCKS!"
They're all going after Hillary... proving the point that no one will mobilize the Republicans better than her.
Do 10 pushups every time they say "socialism" "de-regulate" and "cut taxes" (for the super wealthy).
Mugsy @ 83:
Funny that they're mentioning that in Dearborn, which has the highest concentration of Muslims in the US.
casper46 @ 89:
I think the Terrorist Meter should be set on RED....these guys scare the hell out of me;
much more so than any "foreign terrust".
Tancredo: "One of the worst votes I ever made was to give this President 'fast track' (trade)."
Mugsy @ 78:
I believe people should wear condoms to protect their virginity.
Drink every time they say "Hillary."
Blue Buddha @ 95:
We also need to count the number of times "Hillary" is mentioned.
God, I know most people here hate Hillary, but she will eat anyone of these guys alive in a one on one debate.
Fred Thompson is Better than a Sleeping Pill @ 99:
My insurance doesn't cover alcohol poisoning.
And how many non-union workers who get a pay raise and extra benefits because of those evil unions actually turn down that extra pay and better benefits? I just don't get this whole "right-to-work" BS.
The continued use of "Hillary" rather than Senator Clinton exposes their not-so-subtle misogyny.
Q to Romney: "Can you name a good union?"
Romney: "The carpenters union."
(remember this Dearborn, home of the UAW.
soothsayer @ 104:
YUP!
That guys would arrive into a sawdust covered ring driving a roller-skate-sized car, exiting wearing big floppy shoes to the music of a Calliope couldn't surprise me more than if they made cogent logical responses to the moderator's questions.
Oooops!
That these guys.....
sorry
other than Ron Paul, who has no chance.....
They all want to stay in Iraq forever.
They have no health care plan.
They all want to continue or increase the tax cuts to the rich while screwing the poor.
They better focus on the economy. It's the only issue where they haven't completely ruined their credibility. What a way to allow them to duck major issues.
I'm going to watch though. I need to know lies I can call them out on.
Kucinich 08 - Save the nation and the world.
Rudy said that the garment workers' union got his family out of poverty? I thought "personal responsibility" and the glorious free market was the solution to solving poverty??
reagan! :D
Internet predator question--good plug for "Dateline NBC"
Once again, Thompson gives one answer then provides an "exception" in the next sentence.
soothsayer @ 111:
Drink!
Anybody drunk yet? Anybody stupider than when it started?
soothsayer @ 104:
Sure does! Are there references to any of the other "Democrat" candidates?
Child porn is bad! What a controversial statement by McCain!
Q: "How would you police the Internet?"
Rudy agrees with the premise.
Q: "An FCC for the Internet?"
Rudy: No new agencies.
Eric Almighty @ 115:
Thomspon. :)
Mugsy @ 118:
Lemme guess. He wants to use Blackwater.
None of these jackoffs scare me as much as Rudolph. I definitely see him as the guy who has been raising and training a secret police force out in the shed for a while.
Mugsy @ 113:
hahaha
"rape is bad, but we can't confuse consensual sex and rape"
"killing babies is bad, but if the US military does it than it's okay"
"prostitution should be illegal, but if its only a blow job i don't see a problem"
Fred Thompson is Better than a Sleeping Pill @ 110:
Garment Union apparently supplied he and his family w/nice clothing....and he did not have
to go to the Sal. Army or United Way to obtain.
"First of all, let me waste half of my 30-second response time complaining about the short response time."
Maddy @ 65:
All of the "top" Democratic candidates say they will stay in Iraq past 2013.
Kucinich would get us out as soon as possible.
All of the "top" Democratic candidates want to use tax dollars to subsidize insurance companies.
Kucinich wants to get the Insurance companies out of the health care business with a single payer health care system.
There IS a candidate that represents the American people running on the Democratic ticket.
Dennis Kucinich is that candidate.
It is up to all of us to do whatever we can to make it happen.
Kucinich 08 - Americas one true hope
"Lightning round" - how dignified.
Thompson is stumbling big time over this dollar question...gee, who isn't for a "strong dollar?"
Q: "Vetoing SCHIP right thing to do?"
Huckabee: "I never would have let it get to that point." Iffy on whether he would have vetoed it.
Mugsy @ 118:
Well, this is the guy who proposed tax cuts, and then to fix the problem of lost revenue from tax cuts, he will use more tax cuts.
Tweety served up a softball for Rudy...anytime the moderator says "Hillary says blah blah blah," the Repugs are salivating.
Fred is a flop. Looks old and dumb. Doesn't Senator Clinton deserve a tiny bit of respect? They cannot call her anything but Hillary.
Every time I see a photo of the Republican debates all I can think is, this is a dead party. Nothing but rich, old white men and the 4 front runners have 8 marriages among them - always a great indication of family values.
So maybe, finally we will see genuine power on the distaff side. Rich old white men have played downhill with the sun at their backs for so long they think a level playing field is unfair. Maybe, after nearly 50 years of fighting for equal rights, we can shut them up when they whine about losing their power. Maybe we can finally join the rest of the industrialized world and have universal health care, free public education thru college, paid leave for parents who need it. And maybe we can have a sane foreign policy based on diplomacy and eradicating poverty. As the old saying goes, 'If you seek peace, work for justice.'
Wouldn't it be loverly?
McCain on interest rates---DUD!
Rudy is trying to sell "the optimistic approach". Channeling Reagan qualify as a drink?
McCain: "I think interest rates should be zero!"
Wonder how he'd finance that debt then?
Mugsy @ 133:
Ah, what the hell and go ahead and take another drink---I just heard "pro-life."
Wow Rudy is disrespectful of the female moderator as well.
Lighning round on "Will you support the nominee?"
Tancredo: "No way"
Hunter: "Yes"
Rudy chastising Tancredo on immigration???
Romney: OH SNAP!!
Give it up for Romney..that was a classic line!
Romney: "Is this our sixth debate? Somethink like that?"
If you don't count the ones they skipped out on.
Thompson: "We get more oil from Canada than anybody".
Actually, we get more from Mexico (then Saudi, iirc).
Have they asked the "Jack Bauer" question?
Strawberry @ 101:
My black Labrador retriever would out debate these clowns, but only if I can get the Tennis Ball out of this mouth!
McCain on how to "get bin Laden"... describes the need for an "independent organization like the OSS in WWII."
Who wants to be the one to tell him this is the CIA?
Thompson: "Feels just like home" -- the Old Folks Home :D
Mugsy @ 145:
That's what I learned from my U.S. history books.
Ten Littles Piggies
Ten little piggies sitting on a vine,
One fell off and then there were nine.
Nine little piggies went on a date,
One ate too much then there were eight.
Eight little piggies went to heaven,
One fell out then there were seven.
Seven little piggies eating bricks,
One got sick and then there were six.
Six little piggies began to arrive,
One got lost and then there were five.
Five little piggies trying to score,
One got a goal and then there were four.
Four little piggies eating ice cream,
One got too fat and then there were three.
Three little piggies saying boo!
One got scared and then there were two.
Two little piggies having so much fun,
One fell asleep and then there was one.
One little piggy playing in the sun,
She got hot and now there are none.
Mugsy @ 145:
Yeah, but the OSS is so much more glamorous, you know, Tyrone Powers in a beret, with some French Babe on his Arm..
You've got to keep in mind, McCain's brain sort of sees the world like a romantic old Black and White Movie...
Most of the Republic are stuck in the 80s with Reagan...
McCain is stuck in 1962.......
Brownback is all a twitter about abortions and then says single parent families are a financial problem. Maybe if some of those poor ladies could get abortions, there wouldn't be so many kids in these poor conditions.
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