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As the President rose to leave after 20 minutes, he said he hoped the visit would help the Falmouth, Maine, woman heal. Halley, 42, replied, ``What would really help my healing is if you'd start finding a way to bring our troops home.''

[snip]

``Now he's dead,'' Halley, an artist, says she told Bush, no longer able to contain her anger. ``For what? I've lost my soul mate.''

"I am so sorry for your loss,'' Bush said more than once.

Their conversation ended shortly after Halley began urging Bush to end the war. "We see things differently,'' he told her.

Halley says the encounter wasn't "sharp,'' even with her strong words and emotions. As they parted, they shook hands, he kissed her on the cheek and gave her a souvenir presidential coin. Read the rest...

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GonzoD's picture

Bush is a douchebag, this is news?

Snowball's picture

See!? Bush is a compassionate Conservative. Nothing substitutes for the loss of a loved one better than a cheap trinket.

Roket's picture

A penny for your thoughts soul mate?

Ex-Canuck's picture

AWOL CIC george bush has all the compassion of a turnip. He doesn't care that people in our military are dying. If he did, he would admit his errors and end the occupation of Iraq.

Seems as if he loves the sport of killing Muslims a little too much. More and more of the casualties in Iraq seem to be innocents these days, and include many women and children. He has not yet signaled when (and if) he will begin to bring our valiant troops home. The chickenshit is leaving the mopping up to his successor.

What a legacy george! History will see you as equivalent to Hitler in your insanity. We can only hope that you take the same way out of your wasted life as your apparent idol did in that bunker in Germany.

Snowball's picture

See, that's the thing about compassionate Conservatism, at least you get a cheap souvenir. Rush Limbaugh would have just called her a phony.

miss_kitty's picture

Gee. It looks like base metal. Keep it in the box, or your hand will turn green.

Bush to grieving parent: "Sorry about the kid. Here's a quarter for not getting up in my grill about it."

Thing Fish's picture

An obolus for Charon.

L.A. Confidential's picture

Bush Sr. golfed most of his last year in office.

FunMe's picture

They really are FREAKS aren't they?

It goes beyond EVIL.

And to think that many people actually wanted him to be prez. I wonder how many of them regret voting for him and make it easier for him to steal not one but two elections.

Nogahdz Noughmasters's picture

Totally off topic but wanted to share:
I ran into George Tenet at the cleaners this morning...and could think of nothing to say or to ask him. Grrrr...perhaps my mind was too busy deciding between medium or heavy starch.

Snowball's picture

I wouldn't bank on Conservatives who voted for Bush and regret it not voting for someone worse. From what I'm picking up from the right wing these days is that they're dissatisfied because they think Bush isn't Conservative enough. Too much of that compassion thing don't you know?

ferrofluid's picture

Ex-Canuck @ 4:

bunker in Germany.

somebody say bunker :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDFRsJZxBS0

Kay's picture

This was the best he could do? She says, "I lost my soulmate." He replies, "we see things differently," and hands her a glorified arcade token. I can't believe that she would shake his hand after that.

odanny's picture

Fools gold from a fool. Here's some late night illumination sure to raise your spirits. Or maybe not.

This may help to better understand the Washington establishment and its courtesan punditry who serve to reinforce their ceaseless narrative of exceptionalism. This is why they’ve disingenuously covered up the infantilism of George W. Bush for so long: LittleDubya is the id of the ruling class made manifest –he’s their troubled child, who, by his destructive actions, cracks the deceptively normal veneer of a miserable family and reveals the rot within. At a certain level, it’s damn entertaining: his instability so shakes the foundation of the house that it causes the skeletons in its closets to dance.

By engaging in a mode of being so careless it amounts to public immolation, these corrupt elitists are bringing the empire down. There is nothing new in this: Such recklessness is the method by which cunning strivers commit suicide.

Those who take the trouble to look will apprehend the disastrous results of the ruling elites’ pathology: wars of choice sold to a credulous citizenry by public relations confidence artists; a predatory economy that benefits one percent of the population; a demoralized, deeply ignorant populace who are either unaware of or indifferent to the difference between the virtues and vicissitudes of the electoral processes of a democratic republic, in contrast to the schlock circus, financed by big money corporatist, being inflicted upon us, at present.

Moreover, the elitist’s barriers of isolation and exclusion play out among the classes below as an idiot’s mimicry of soulless gated “communities” and the pernicious craving for a vast border wall – all an imitation of the ruling classes’ paranoia-driven compulsion for isolation and their narcissistic obsession with exclusivity.

Perhaps, we should cover the country in an enormous sheet of cellophane and place a zip-lock seal at its southern border, or, better yet — in the interest of being more metaphorically accurate — let’s simply zip the entire land mass of the U.S. into a body bag and be done with it.

What will be at the root of the empire’s demise? It seems the elite of the nation will succumb to “Small World Syndrome” — that malady borne of incurable careerism, a form of self-induced cretinism that reduces the vast and intricate world to only those things that advance the goals of its egoist sufferers. It is a degenerative disease that winnows down the consciousness of those afflicted to a banal nub of awareness, engendering the shallowness of character on display in the corporate media and the arrogance and cluelessness of the empire’s business and political classes. It possesses a love of little but mammon; it is the myth of Midas, manifested in the hoarding of hedge funds; it is the tale of an idiot gibbering over his collection of used strings.

What can be done? In these dangerous times, credulousness to party dogma is as dangerous as a fundamentalist Christian’s literal interpretation of the Bible: There is no need to squander the hours searching for an “intelligent design” within the architecture of denial and duplicity built into this claptrap system — a system that we have collaborated in constructing by our loyalty to political parties that are, in return, neither loyal to us nor any idea, policy nor principle that doesn’t maintain the corporate status quo.

Accordingly, we must make the elites of the Democratic Party accountable for their betrayal — or we ourselves will become complicit. The faith of Democratic partisans in their degraded party is analogous to Bush and his loyalist still believing they can achieve victory in Iraq and the delusion-based wing of the Republican Party who, a few years ago, clung to the belief, regardless of facts, that Terri Schiavo’s brain was not irreparably damaged and she would someday rise from her hospital bed and bless the heavens for them and their unwavering devotion to her cause.

---Phil Rockstroh, a self-described, auto-didactic, gasbag monologist, is a poet, lyricist and philosopher bard living in New York City

Tequila's picture

Gen. Ricardo Sanchez tells it like it is. Craig is hurting the GOP. Even the IRS notes a wider disparity between the rich and the poor!

nonny mouse's picture

Bush's were all crocodile tears. But I'm betting the aide who let real people pierce the bubble of George W's official reality is going to be shedding some real ones soon. I'd love to have been a fly on the wall (or an NSA issue microphone in the lamp) to hear what Dubya had to say after the ladies had been escorted off the premises...

actual's picture

Have you guys seen this issue based poll result? When people choose a candidate by individual issues, Kucinich moves way, way ahead:
http://www.dehp.net/candidate/stats.php

skippy's picture

and that old racial standby, the noose, is making a comeback in a big way...

Snowball's picture

Why is the above post on SCHIP closed to comments? I support the program and am glad to see that my representative Baron Hill gave in even though as an addicted smoker who is allergic to patches and has tried to quit 6 times, I'll be out $365 more a year after this passes. So much for that next doctor visit, but I guess I can take one on the chin for the kids.

skippy's picture

ps...

tequila @ 16:

gen. ricardo sanchez tells it like it is. craig is hurting the gop. Even the IRS notes a wider disparity between the rich and the poor!

hey, tequila, you should do the blog round up sometime!

LibertyLover's picture

she can put that souvenir coin on her pillow at night and pretend that her husband is still alive.

yenehC hcaepmI's picture

I'm surprised she let him kiss her on the cheek.

The only people that are going to have a chance to stop this war and the upcoming Iran war are the 70%ers by getting out there and making a lot of noise.

I saw something that disturbed me recently where I saw people talking about how they, along with other Americans, would definately rise up and protest if Bush/Cheney attacked Iran.

HUH? Wait until they attack to protest? Like the killing in Iraq isn't enough for them to get out, that they need more in Iran before they actually would protest?

Instead of MoveOn.org and those other groups buying ads for things like that Patreaus ad, why not plan a nation wide protest like Strike911.org tried to do in September and which they are hoping to set something up again. Maybe more people and popular blogs would jump on board.

Last week or whenever it was when C&L posted those Impeach Bracelets, wouldn't it have been great to post a date of a protest where ALL BLOGS could jump on board and advertise it?

Why is it so easy to get 70-80,000 in stadiums around the country for football every Sunday and for Baseball.

If C&L was the blog to plan and set a date for a nation wide protest I would send a nice donation thier way.

Maybe...Just maybe some of those that were wasting time posting insults and name calling yesterday, would put that anger into good use and join the protest.

PLEASE PLEASE C&L use your large visitor power to get all the progressive blogs to join together for a WORLD WIDE protest. The media wouldn't be able to ignore the protests any more if EVERYONE joined in on the same day/s.

Am I just wasting my time typing this or will someone here at least consider talking with the other BIG BLOGS?

Patriot Scholar's picture

It sounds to me as though he is a sick, sick man. He should step down.

Snowball's picture

Umm, I think there have been nationwide protests, it's just that the Corporate Media gives them short shrift. As they say: If a tree falls in the woods...

Snowball's picture

Speaking of SCHIP and the infamous Bush compassionate Conservatism, check this out:

White House Embraces Right-Wing Blog That Called For ‘Destroying’ Graeme Frost
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/12/white-house-redstate/

BaScOmBe's picture

he did that a long time ago. his callousness is always ignored in the media. they present it so matter-of-factly, as if, there's nothing wrong.

Colbert was right at the press dinner. I'm glad that at least once in his tenure, boosh was told off to his face what a delusional piece of scum he is.

Thing Fish's picture

Since it's Open Thread -- http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21270571/site/newsweek/page/0/

Pam [Hornbeck, Shawn's mom]: A big problem I have is that some supposedly respected media figures spoke out in the beginning and questioned why Shawn didn’t run. When you have a public person speak out like that, a lot will follow. I feel those people need to give Shawn a public apology. They don’t realize how much that hurt him and the rest of the family. Until they apologize, I have no desire to speak to any of them.

What public figures are you referring to?
Pam: The one that comes to mind first is Bill O’Reilly.

NoBuddy's picture

The rationale for the war was as follow (so I think). Bush, who hired The Project for a New American Century (PNAC) to manage his foreign affairs, participated in a scheme to misrepresent Iraq's possession of WMD in order to trick the U.S into war with Iraq, because they thought they could wrap it up in under a year, so nobody would care. Abu Ghraib came about because when the Bush administration was grasping with the fact that the insurgency (resistance) was preventing the matter from being wrapped up, they decided to short-cut to a conclusion through torture, which, in the process, started eliminating the distinction of the U.S. versus the "bad guys".

The woman should be told that her son's death was a "voluntary homicide" in violation of U.S.C 18 §1112, also endorsed by the Congress by their inaction to impeach the President and Vice President. Her son died because of of lies to persuade the U.S. to occupy Iraq for its oil, and because of PNAC's wet dream that somehow, a "democracy domino theory" would render a Middle East safe for Israel. However, people who seek a theocracy aren't about to embrace democracy. To the contrary, it seems within the U.S., those people seeking theocracy, a core constituency of the Republican party, are actively seeking to destroy democracy within America, and in particular, the Constitution.

Dana's picture

What does Bush think, that this is some sort of 'hush money'?
What a pathetic piece of maggot ridden filth!

Mr. XXXX's picture

As I have said a number of times, the next really big environmental problem that will hit all Americans like a bad curveball, as many are sleeping in the age of Bush and decadence, and greed, are the water wars and the water issue, globally. This is such a huge problem, but do not expect this issue to get much play in any of the presidential debates....its seen as too much of a "wonk issue" that "bores" too many Americans. So much for Americans wanting to be "informed or enlightened." I hope you will all get familiar with this serious global and national issue before its too late. The time is now to be engaged in the water issue which is not unconnected to the work Al Gore has been involved with all these years. I cam ipon a very timely article that I urge all of you to read over at http://www.alternet.org/

Our Drinkable Water Supply Is Vanishing
By Tara Lohan, AlterNet
Posted on October 11, 2007, Printed on October 12, 2007
http://www.alternet.org/story/64948/

Here is an excerpt:

Albert Szent-Gyorgyi, the Hungarian biochemist and Nobel Prize winner for medicine once said, "Water is life's matter and matrix, mother and medium. There is no life without water."

We depend on water for survival. It circulates through our bodies and the land, replenishing nutrients and carrying away waste. It is passed down like stories over generations --from ice-capped mountains to rivers to oceans.

Historically water has been a facet of ritual, a place of gathering and the backbone of community.

But times have changed. "In an age when man has forgotten his origins and is blind even to his most essential needs for survival, water has become the victim of his indifference," Rachel Carson wrote.

As a result, today, 35 years since the passage of the Clean Water Act, we find ourselves are teetering on the edge of a global crisis that is being exacerbated by climate change, which is shrinking glaciers and raising sea levels.

We are faced with thoughtless development that paves flood plains and destroys wetlands; dams that displace native people and scar watersheds; unchecked industrial growth that pollutes water sources; and rising rates of consumption that nature can't match. Increasingly, we are also threatened by the wave of privatization that is sweeping across the world, turning water from a precious public resource into a commodity for economic gain.

Read the entire article @:
http://www.alternet.org/story/64948/

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I think it’s important to know your foe.

How Conservatives Think (Or Fail To Do So)
Understanding the Contemporary Republican Party: Authoritarians Have Taken Control
By JOHN W. DEAN
Part One in a Three-Part Series
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20070905.html
Part Two in a Three-Part Series
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20070921.html
Part Three in a Three-Part Series
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20070925.html

EJ's picture

Since this is an open thread:

I am deeply concerned about out being able to rise above beltway political discussions on this blog without censure. The two political parties are two wings of the same bird and they are both taking away our liberties on a weekly basis.

Many of us have put hundreds if not thousands of hours into our research and knowledge base and it sucks to be called a "theorist," troll, or simply deleted because of our information being different than yours.

There are things going on that are so big, so outrageous, so profound that people not only refuse to hear about them, they want to kill the messengers. We are so deep in trouble it is mind boggling to even list everything.

This didn't happen with Bush, it's been going on since our inception as a nation and the Bush administration is where it is being acted out after centuries of planning. Just about everything you think you KNOW is a lie or misdirection. TV is a poison beyond belief and should be used as a DVD player only.

Here are a few links to reality:

[Deleted. Vast conspiracy theory links-Sitemonitor]

The only, and I mean ONLY thing we can do is focus on one thing: Making Bush and Cheney face the consequences of their actions...impeachment, trial, and imprisonment. Nothing else will break the back of the beast. As Jim Morrison said: "They have the guns, but we have the numbers."

Our congress is filled with cowards and traitors. We have the right to take back our republic. If we don't act soon, they will pull off another false flag event to bring about martial law. They have the Blackwater mercenaries ready to enforce their will as well as foreign soldiers brought in through Canada now on our soil.

NOTHING is more important to our freedom as a nation, NOTHING but taking out the Bush administration now. If not, we will be in WWIII by Spring and China, Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, Syria, Iran, North Korea, etc. will ALL be beating the shit out of us here in the states. Our military has been intentionally beat down for this reason.

We are now a second rate nation with no manufacturing to generate trade, our money is worthless, the gold is gone from Fort Knox, our nation is dumb, fat, and lazy and the rest of the world knows this.

Impeach Bush and Cheney or we die. Period.

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Roket @ 3:

A penny for your thoughts soul mate?

exactly :(

dadams's picture

bush says thank you for coming and sorry for the loss of your spouse, but here let me
give you the value of your losses, how about a cheap coin to let you know what
i really think of you.........

once again bush fucks over all those who really serve their country honorably.

DoctorFunkopolis's picture

Don't go sellin' that on e-bay, now!

Jeff's picture

Guys, please vote for my friend 5 times a day. He's in the run to win best baseball fan and he's the only one representing the NY Yankees. Let's represent NY!

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http://sexyfan.people.com/index.html

Ron's picture

Snowball @ 25:

Umm, I think there have been nationwide protests, it's just that the Corporate Media gives them short shrift. As they say: If a tree falls in the woods...

If nobody hears it is it news, Fox news producer in " Orwell rolls in his grave."

dadams's picture

Mr. XXXX @ 31:

As I have said a number of times, the next really big environmental problem that will hit all Americans like a bad curveball, as many are sleeping in the age of Bush and decadence, and greed, are the water wars and the water issue, globally. This is such a huge problem, but do not expect this issue to get much play in any of the presidential debates....its seen as too much of a "wonk issue" that "bores" too many Americans. So much for Americans wanting to be "informed or enlightened." I hope you will all get familiar with this serious global and national issue before its too late. The time is now to be engaged in the water issue which is not unconnected to the work Al Gore has been involved with all these years. I cam ipon a very timely article that I urge all of you to read over at http://www.alternet.org/

there is another major issue that will be facing the world as important as water and that is the global shortage of food for human beings. this is on record as the first year that the crops recently have not been sufficient enough to feed the entire population on the planet. you can now couple this with the loss of a major portion of the food in America this season, that is being left on the American fields to rot because their are no
WORKERS TO HARVEST THE CROPS. our kind and thoughtless moron gop and bushit are having all the transient workers(illegal migrant workers by their description) arrested and deported. this is leaving thousands of our farmers without workers to harvest and all those jobless white bastards are just too good to work for the wages the migrant workers are willing to accept. well, we are not fucking ourselves and food prices will surely go up because of food shortages and additionally from rising fuel costs.

America the land of the plenty.........that just lays on the fields and rots........
you get what you give.

Lew's picture

Oh how I wish the following was the quote that came next:

"Mr. President, how far do you suppose I could shove this coin up your lying ass?"

Ron's picture

If it's news and nobody hears it, is it news, "Orwell rolls in his grave." Fox news producer.

Agent Provocateur's picture

Watching Ron Paul on C-SPAN2 tonight speaking at the Taft Foundation, I think it was, I am even more sold on him. Yes he is against the social programs, yet as he says he understands where we are, and to quote: "I have enough compassion not to put us right into a transition state". With social security, make a small step towards a transition in allowing people to opt out. Health-care for kids? He doesn't believe it will work in theory, but no need to just up and cut it, we can still fund it simply by changing our foreign policy. Foreign policy that is the name of the game. Besides, when people talk about how if this guy gets elected say goodbye to medicare, s.s., welfare, go to the gold standard etc... be realistic, do you really think the undoubtedly Democratic congress would just rubber stamp and allow this? Come on. You, I, and even Ron Paul knows this. He explicitly says, that even though he does not agree with these programs he is smart enough and cares enough that he is not just going to up and get rid of them.

One of my favorite quotes from him tonight(well yesterday technically) "I don't promise you anything but Freedom and Liberty". Watching him and listening to him, well I don't claim to be able to read his soul in his eyes, but you can just tell he truly does care. Hell he even called out Glen Beck as a demigod and talked about O'Reilly not "wanting to hear about history".

I'm trying to actually put something into this post and not be the typical "Ron Paul is teh l33t woot!!eleventeen". They bug me too. Here is the program ID, I really encourage you to keep an eye out for this and watch it if you have the means. Maybe someone could capture some video from this and provide it for the site? It will probably be on youtube soon I'm sure.
http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/cspan.csp?command=dprogram&r...

Have a good weekend.
peace.

Ron's picture

Refresh comments is haywire.

manny's picture

"here's a presidential coin. call someone who gives a fuck"

Ron's picture

Everthing is haywire.

StCyrlyMe's picture

Someday this bastard will pay for all the pain he has brought to this country.

Ron's picture

C&L, please fix your refresh comments.

Bush the Liar's picture

What I'd really like to see is a democrat elected in 2008 and have them put Bush and Cheney in Gitmo and waterboard these bastards for the next 4 years then ask them if they think its not torture.

I can wish...

Ex-Canuck's picture

ferrofluid @ 13:

Ex-Canuck @ 4:

bunker in Germany.

somebody say bunker :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDFRsJZxBS0

Iron liquid - that was really cute - who woulda thunk - a rapping Adolf. Too bad the topic of this thread is so serious. Anyway, cheers!

Thing Fish's picture

America's Iron Cross.

Ex-Canuck's picture

ferrofluid @ 13:

Ex-Canuck @ 4:

bunker in Germany.

somebody say bunker :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDFRsJZxBS0

Iron Liquid - that was really cute. Who would thunk it - a rapping Adolf. Too bad this thread is about so serious a topic. I feel for every family who has lost someone, or who has a member who has suffered an injury in this evil "war", only to have bush respond with crocodile tears and political statements. Impeach both cheney and bush now.

Anyway, cheers for the smile you brought to me with this video.

pi IS yummy's picture

so the private contractors do out-rank the troops.

wow.

i was hoping that was a horrid future thing, oh well, clock broke.

[...] Open Thread - Lose a spouse, gain a Presidential Coin. [...]

beckyboo's picture

They are all about issuing these freaking coins. They had a ceremony when our son left, where he gave both his father and I, a coin, commerating his deployment. I told my husband at that time, "as if you and I would forget where he was and what he was doing for an entire year.
That being said, I carried it with me the entire year, afraid that if I let it go, something awful would happen. As it happened, the one day I did forget to take it with me somewhere, because I forgot my purse, his unit did see something serious happen. He wasn't hurt, thank goodness, but there were people who where. I know it was superstitious, but I never left it at home again. You do odd things when your loved ones are deployed.
When my son came home, they had another ceremony where they all gave us, "welcome home" coins. This one was a little fancier. Both of the coins are in one of my dresser drawers, and I hardly think of them, accept when I get out a pair of pantyhose.
I can say, with relative certainty, that if I had been is either of these ladies position, I would have 1) not been able to pass the security test to be in the president's presence, and 2) not been able to see him walk in the room without heaving the Deployment coin at the asshole's head.

I'm very sorry for anyone who has lost a loved one in this. It is more pain that chimpboy can possibly imagine, and a lot more pain than anyone should have to go through.

TC-14's picture

NOT COIN RELATED, BUT LAPEL PIN RELATED - I NEED YOUR FEEDBACK!
Off-topic, but I really would appreciate your brief feedback on something I've thought about off-and-on for months. Not sure if it's a great idea or Beavis & Butthead.

Let Republicans have their stupid flag lapel pins, 'cause pins are stupid. That said, I'm proposing an idea for.....yep, a lapel pin. How about encouraging Dem leaders to sport "Constitution Pins" on their lapels? They might appear as a gilded, partially unrolled scroll. This pin, like other pins, is meaningless in itself. But it would quickly become a talking point. Chris Matthews, George Stephanopoulos, Bob Schieffer and others will interview Dems and pop the inevitable question for many weeks, "So I see you are wearing one of the new Constitution pins. Explain what that means to you, and why." This would be the perfect set-up for what Dems have been yelling anyway: "We have a president who, in his lust for executive power, has repeatedly undermined our nation's Constitution in a brazen manner we would have never imagined not so long ago. Whether it's illegally monitoring our citizens' communications, claims that torture is something other than that, or outing our undercover intelligence agents for political gain, this is not only unacceptable to us, but it goes against the core democratic principals this republic was founded on. IF THE PRESIDENT WON’T DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, THEN WE MOST CERTAINLY WILL." Etc etc etc. The pins would not only provide a new talking point, but could come to visually symbolize everything that Dems have been passionately yelling about for the past 7 years.

SO, GREAT IDEA?......OR TOTAL BEAVIS & BUTTHEAD? PLEASE LET ME KNOW! THANKS.
(FYI, I can't be offended -- I dearly love Beavis & Butthead.)

dadams's picture

Bush the Liar @ 48:

What I'd really like to see is a democrat elected in 2008 and have them put Bush and Cheney in Gitmo and waterboard these bastards for the next 4 years then ask them if they think its not torture.

I can wish...

better yet, we should lock bush, cheney, billo, gonzales, coulter and limpballs all in a dark room after their rendition flight to europe. we will put a single gun in the room with just enough bullets to subdue everyone except one. the prize the survivor remains in the room with the decaying cadavors forever..............

xoites defends Constitution's picture

The thread that ate itself...

Smack_dab's picture

I don't know who said it, but someone said, "Never shake hands with a war criminal", probably in reference to Rumsfeld's famous picture with Saddam. There really is no point in going to see Bush or expecting him to give a satisfactory answer as to why we invaded and occupied Iraq. I can understand wanting an answer, but that desire won't ever be fulfilled.

54 TC-14

I think it is a great idea. I just put in a request for a quote on 10,000 die cast metal gold liknesses of the Constitution. Maybe if they don't cost too much we can get the money and send them to every public figure we can think of.

Ron's picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 57:

The thread that ate itself...

Yeah! I had to completely logoff andncome back.

Smack_dab's picture

I don't know who said it, but someone said, "Never shake hands with a war criminal", probably in reference to Rumsfeld's famous picture with Saddam. There really is no point in going to see Bush or expecting him to give a satisfactory answer as to why we invaded and occupied Iraq. I can understand the wanting of a good answer, but that desire won't ever be fulfilled by Bush.

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[What's your problem, Smack dab? I haven't seen any of your comments deleted. I haven't deleted any. Why are you posting with a different name? BTW, we're quite possibly having a server problem. Paranoid much? Sitemonitor]

Mike the Canuck's picture

I read the entire post involving this woman and the one who lost her son. All I have to say is I think your President is F*&(%^& pathetic. In Canada mothers and wives are honered quite differently
Silver Cross Mother
The National Silver Cross Mother is chosen annually by The Royal Canadian Legion to represent the mothers of Canada at the National Remembrance Day Ceremony in Ottawa on 11 November. As the Silver Cross Mother, she lays a wreath at the base of the National War Memorial on behalf of all mothers who lost children in the military service of their nation.
And I don't think it matters wether or not she's nice to the PM

Ron's picture

bite me @ 62:

Crooks and liars can bite me for auto deleting my comments.

I think there is a problem wirh their server.

Thing Fish's picture
Trittydi's picture

I feel so deeply for these women. I can only imagine that seeing and speaking with Bush resolves nothing for them - I can't imagine they find peace at ANY level from their encounter. Some may - and if they do - I'm glad for them.

The coin? It's an insult.
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LibertyLover's picture

Did Bush just pay her a penny for her thoughts? What a cheapskate.

LibertyLover's picture

FDL is having problems with their server also...
hmmm... conspiracy theories abound. :)

TC-14 @ 55:

NOT COIN RELATED, BUT LAPEL PIN RELATED - I NEED YOUR FEEDBACK!
Off-topic, but I really would appreciate your brief feedback on something I've thought about off-and-on for months. Not sure if it's a great idea or Beavis & Butthead.

Let Republicans have their stupid flag lapel pins, 'cause pins are stupid. That said, I'm proposing an idea for.....yep, a lapel pin. How about encouraging Dem leaders to sport "Constitution Pins" on their lapels? They might appear as a gilded, partially unrolled scroll. This pin, like other pins, is meaningless in itself. But it would quickly become a talking point. Chris Matthews, George Stephanopoulos, Bob Schieffer and others will interview Dems and pop the inevitable question for many weeks, "So I see you are wearing one of the new Constitution pins. Explain what that means to you, and why." This would be the perfect set-up for what Dems have been yelling anyway: "We have a president who, in his lust for executive power, has repeatedly undermined our nation's Constitution in a brazen manner we would have never imagined not so long ago. Whether it's illegally monitoring our citizens' communications, claims that torture is something other than that, or outing our undercover intelligence agents for political gain, this is not only unacceptable to us, but it goes against the core democratic principals this republic was founded on. IF THE PRESIDENT WON’T DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, THEN WE MOST CERTAINLY WILL." Etc etc etc. The pins would not only provide a new talking point, but could come to visually symbolize everything that Dems have been passionately yelling about for the past 7 years.

SO, GREAT IDEA?......OR TOTAL BEAVIS & BUTTHEAD? PLEASE LET ME KNOW! THANKS.
(FYI, I can't be offended -- I dearly love Beavis & Butthead.)

Looking at various sites for lapel pins it would appear that you could get 1000 pins (if they were already designed and made for under a dollar each. If you mailed one to every member of Congress, John Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Hanity, Combs and all the rest it would cost less than $2000. I bet Move On could get the money together in a heartbeat. It would torpedo the right's bullshit in a big way and in a hurry.

tHeGaMeOfLiFe's picture

I would put that coin on e-bay and hope some nutty repug would pay through the nose.

I have passed the US Constitution Lapel Pin idea on to Move On. I hope they respond. I think it would be fun to have Stephen Colbert badgering his right wing guests to wear one. :)

Edwin's picture

33 EJ Says: Since this is an open thread:

To add something a little bit different, but not entirely, I was thinking today (in the shower where I get lots of inspiration), it is not possible for an American to think about the world, or see the world, through non-American eyes. You might think you can, but you can't. You've been brainwashed from birth. I know it happens in every nation, and it's chronic in the USA. We're #1, richest, best, biggest guns, I pledge allegiance to the flag... etc. You have been steeped in the mythology of the greatest nation ever created, the pinnacle of evolution of nation-states, I've even heard.

Now the cracks are beginning to show, but I sense a lot of pride, patriotism and denial, even in the dissenters. It's not just a glitch, and not just since Bush. It's just more amplified and transparent than ever before. DO YOU LIKE WHAT YOU SEE? (It's what the rest of the world has seen more clearly than you, for a long time.)

Edwin's picture

Am I on glue, or did some posts just disappear COMPLETELY-- no trace left???

Edwin's picture

OK-- they're back suddenly---- holy wierd.

Edwin's picture

GonzoD @ 1:

Bush is a douchebag, this is news?

Exxxactly.

JJohnson's picture

I almost feel bad posting this in an open thread with such a sad opening topic...

But at least it might make a few people smile:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cBiOTvxXcY

I'd never heard of this guy before, but he's pretty much right on as you can get.

yogi-one's picture

Most likely, after the ladies left, W made derogatory comments about them.

That's the kind of person he is.

Edwin's picture

Did anyone watch this from the telecom thread? It is kinda funny (Lily Tomlin-- "One Ringy-Dingy"). Telecom spying ain't new, just uglier under Bush, but what isn't, eh? What isn't?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9e3dTOJi0o

TreadingWater's picture

yogi-one @ 77:

Most likely, after the ladies left, W made derogatory comments about them.

That's the kind of person he is.

Inside Bush's Brain (hypothetical):
"I'd hit that... that one too... not that one... ack, not even with Condi's dick"

Dr. Know's picture

75) JJohnson, thanks for the link. Dead on, and hilarious.

On a more somber note, interesting read on Mayanmar:
Burma-Proceed with Caution

As for the token for a soulmate, I have come to the conclusion that these authoritarian types, both leaders and followers, are ignorant as to an individuals worth - unless it's their bottom line. And that smug miscreant should be kicked squarely in the balls by the mother/wife/sister/brother/father of one (or all) of his many victims.

St. Vitus's picture

Don't sell it on eBay.

Paul in LA's picture

"Here are some pennies for his eyes. We won't bill you for them, they're a gift. Heh-heh. And you can get fifty bucks for them on eBay!"

QBU's picture

A coin. A freaking coin. Yeah, I guess handing out 30 pieces of silver to the families who have sacrificed their children and spouses for "the greater good" would be a tad too biblical, even for a zealot like Bush. Jeez, just when I thought my stomach couldn't turn any further . . . .

Paul in LA's picture

The gold Angel coins, were first struck in Britain in 1465 and later dates, particularly of the reigns of James I and Charles I, are often found officially pierced in the centre as illustrated in 'Coins of England 2001' [10] to be used as touch pieces. The sovereigns of the House of Stuart used the ceremony to help bolster the belief in the 'Divine Right of Kings'.

--wikipedia

Compare image above with: Angel coins,

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Henry_VIII%27s_...

rainlillie's picture

This whole Graeme Frost thing really pisses me off. I was wondering if all the C&L posters wanted to get together and send the family something. A card or something, I'm not sure how to make this happen. If anyone has any ideas, please post them.

JustSickOfIt's picture

“We see things differently,” The way I see it you are here to be used, sacrafice, suffer and die so me and my buddies can steal hundreds of billions of dollars from your country. See. Doesn't that make you feel better?

You haven't lost a soul mate, you've gained some really rich dictators.

leo gorcey's picture

Our friend George II is Henry V calling to his countrymen to go "once more into the breach for our sacred English dead". On the side stage women lament the deaths of their innocent warriors struck down by a callous fool so full of himself that he cannot even imagine that he may have made a mistake in exposing the Kingdom to such a peril that may attack us again without notice. Upstage a fired general wails about George II's conduct of the war as the mischeveous pranks of a sadistic youth. Just to George II's right are his rivals murmuring happily among themselves that they will keep supporting him until he takes enough rope to put himself upon the scaffold. Yes, one of them would soon carry the scepter of the King. Then they would show how they would reign. The Queen rends her gown and yearns for the day the King will step down and they can return to their castle in Crawford. The Muses of History dressed in their hooded cloaks chant out: "What fools these mortals be."

The King, being malignant in spirit, cannot bear that others can feel womanish mercy that overcomes justice. He seeks to bring the whole Kingdom down to his level where all that counts is your authority. "Womanish mercy indeed", he snorts. "I've no knowledge of mercy nor do i require it...begone knave before i have you bound and imprisoned". The King's father, George I, enfeebled in body and mind wails "that i should have brought such a monster to this stage of fools." That's the end of Act II. In Act III we will learn what happens when George II enlarges the endless war to include other kingdoms yearning to destroy him and his countrymen. It is a long list and includes Russia, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iran, China. The King's Authority is about to be questioned again? "Gird up your loins again you sons of York, once more into the breach for God, England, Saint George and the Rapture".

a person's picture

I find it ironic that he gave the grieving widow a commemorative coin. Money. "This is what your husband died for, Ma'am."

max keiser's picture

don't let these people in Washington ruin your day; profit from it; check out the new site; from the creators of KarmaBanque comes.... GulagWealthFund.com

mr.ed's picture

I have yet to hear "You killed him/her, you sonofabitch!" from any of these people. Has he got us so afraid of being busted for exercising our first amendment rights? What have we become?

JJohnson's picture

rainlillie @ 84:

This whole Graeme Frost thing really pisses me off. I was wondering if all the C&L posters wanted to get together and send the family something. A card or something, I'm not sure how to make this happen. If anyone has any ideas, please post them.

While I don't have any specific ideas; I certainly second the notion. That anyone could stoop as low as these... bastards have... guh.

I'm not sure what we could do for the family; but even just a card... anything so they know they aren't alone, and that they've done the right thing.

Keith Olberman is going to have Mr and Ms Frost on his show Monday night. Maybe you could contact his show ahead of time and see if they have any ideas about what we could do.

Good Morning everyone! :)

Curtilingus's picture

This news about ATT has been spying for the government since a few days after Bush's inauguration is pretty unsettling, but something I suspected.

Unfortunately, ATT, knowing they had immunity being served up to them, is engaging in crooked business practices knowing that their immunity will probably protect them from being prosecuted for fleecing customers.

I signed on with them a few months ago. They have thrown so many charges at me its not even funny. I call to get them undone, but the operator uses a tactic of attrition to wear you down until you stop trying to convince them the charge is real. They also entered me into a contract on a land line for a year, with out my knowing.

All communications are being monitored, but staying away from ATT might save you some dough while your being spied upon.

Curtilingus's picture

If you look closely at the charges on your ATT bill, you'll see an item that says "spy charge". We're paying an organization to spy on us.

Curtilingus @ 92:

This news about ATT has been spying for the government since a few days after Bush's inauguration is pretty unsettling, but something I suspected.

Unfortunately, ATT, knowing they had immunity being served up to them, is engaging in crooked business practices knowing that their immunity will probably protect them from being prosecuted for fleecing customers.

I signed on with them a few months ago. They have thrown so many charges at me its not even funny. I call to get them undone, but the operator uses a tactic of attrition to wear you down until you stop trying to convince them the charge is real. They also entered me into a contract on a land line for a year, with out my knowing.

All communications are being monitored, but staying away from ATT might save you some dough while your being spied upon.

Call your States Attorney's Office. You have been SLAMMED and that is illegal.

Curtilingus's picture

Edwin @ 72:

33 EJ Says: Since this is an open thread:

To add something a little bit different, but not entirely, I was thinking today (in the shower where I get lots of inspiration), it is not possible for an American to think about the world, or see the world, through non-American eyes. You might think you can, but you can't. You've been brainwashed from birth. I know it happens in every nation, and it's chronic in the USA. We're #1, richest, best, biggest guns, I pledge allegiance to the flag... etc. You have been steeped in the mythology of the greatest nation ever created, the pinnacle of evolution of nation-states, I've even heard.

Good post. I lived in Mexico for several months when I was 7 and traveled all over Europe when I was 19. When you see your country from that far away and hear others who are not American describe what they see , you begin to see it through non American eyes, you begin to realize what it means to be an American (not all good, not all bad). It is still one of the biggest epiphanies of my life. Even if one never travels, seek out people from foreign countries and listen to their impressions of the US. You'll learn more about yourself than you do about them.

Now the cracks are beginning to show, but I sense a lot of pride, patriotism and denial, even in the dissenters. It's not just a glitch, and not just since Bush. It's just more amplified and transparent than ever before. DO YOU LIKE WHAT YOU SEE? (It's what the rest of the world has seen more clearly than you, for a long time.)

Curtilingus's picture

xoites, my cable, my fax, my cell company have all slammed me as well and exercised bad faith in just this year. For example, my cable company sudden link does not publish their prices! It is standard business practice, we are signing away our rights to sue in the contracts, and they know if they all do it in unison, consumers will be even less likely to question the charges.

Curtilingus's picture

Curtilingus @ 95:

Edwin @ 72:

33 EJ Says: Since this is an open thread:

To add something a little bit different, but not entirely, I was thinking today (in the shower where I get lots of inspiration), it is not possible for an American to think about the world, or see the world, through non-American eyes. You might think you can, but you can't. You've been brainwashed from birth. I know it happens in every nation, and it's chronic in the USA. We're #1, richest, best, biggest guns, I pledge allegiance to the flag... etc. You have been steeped in the mythology of the greatest nation ever created, the pinnacle of evolution of nation-states, I've even heard.

Now the cracks are beginning to show, but I sense a lot of pride, patriotism and denial, even in the dissenters. It's not just a glitch, and not just since Bush. It's just more amplified and transparent than ever before. DO YOU LIKE WHAT YOU SEE? (It's what the rest of the world has seen more clearly than you, for a long time.)

Good post. I lived in Mexico for several months when I was 7 and traveled all over Europe when I was 19. When you see your country from that far away and hear others who are not American describe what they see , you begin to see it through non American eyes, you begin to realize what it means to be an American (not all good, not all bad). It is still one of the biggest epiphanies of my life. Even if one never travels, seek out people from foreign countries and listen to their impressions of the US. You'll learn more about yourself than you do about them.

sorry for the double post, not sure what happened.

Molnardian's picture

I would I could be in such deep denial about my mistakes.

Curtilingus's picture

here's the link to the article about ATT spying since February of 01

http://www.correntewire.com/even_worse_than_we_imagined_at_t_contract_fo...

Something i haven't heard anyone bring up is the monitoring of the GPS devices in our cells. Most people have cell phones with a GPS chip that is pinging your location whether the phone is on or off. Is ATT tracking all movements of these GPS devices and creating a history for each individual that has one? They can. If they aren't, why not and is it just a matter of time.

No more alibis.

queek's picture

Lew @ 40:

Oh how I wish the following was the quote that came next:

"Mr. President, how far do you suppose I could shove this coin up your lying ass?"

Exactly what I would have said and then I'd a crammed it up there!

Curtilingus's picture

I would have handed him a dollar-sized coin that said LIAR and had his face on it.

tyree's picture

the most telling thing about this war and our criminal government is that arlingtons being inlarged so lots more can be burried there, makes me feel warm all over!!!

perky boy's picture

So how long are you guys gonna take this?
ya know sometime this blog and others like it (huffpo, rawstory, firedog lake etc.) are gonna have to do more than make money off this misery. A gathering place has to be forged both on the internet and on the land where real patriots can do more than bitch and watch with equal parts shame and glee as America ( and the rest of the world) slowly begans to sink into a police state no better than Burma.

BaScOmBe's picture

"Couric" Coined The Unit Of Measurement For Excrement By "South Park"

On Wednesday night's "South Park" on Comedy Central, Stan's dad takes what he believes is a record-breaking sized bowel movement, so he calls for an official weigh in by officials at the office of European Fecal Standards and Measurements in Zurich. The official unit of measurement is a Couric, named for the CBS news anchor, as explained in the clip below. Both Comedy Central and CBS are owned by Viacom.

:lol:

I'm thinking we now have a unit of measure for the media ratings.

yellow dog's picture

Conservatives believe that money makes everything okay.

PinkyLeftBrain's picture

at&t just shutdown Link TV for a minute or so... In the middle of "Vets: When I Came Home".

Hale to the power of the ... Corporations? I don't think that's what the 'founding fathers' had in mind...

Larry's picture

Another GOP member, another sex scandal

http://greenbaypressgazette.com/...28/1207/ GPGnews

Ben Franklin's picture

There was no way in hell George Washington pitched a coin across the Delaware River above Trenton NJ.

So just head over to the ocean in Falmouth and pitch the bitch.

The Bush/Cheney OPEC Oil War for New Texas is a sham and the American people pathetic dolts for allowing it to happen.

BaScOmBe's picture

perky boy @ 103:

So how long are you guys gonna take this?
ya know sometime this blog and others like it (huffpo, rawstory, firedog lake etc.) are gonna have to do more than make money off this misery. A gathering place has to be forged both on the internet and on the land where real patriots can do more than bitch and watch with equal parts shame and glee as America ( and the rest of the world) slowly begans to sink into a police state no better than Burma.

hey! let's gather at YOUR blog!

PinkyLeftBrain's picture

Hale => hail?

Curtilingus's picture

Larry @ 107:

Another GOP member, another sex scandal

http://greenbaypressgazette.com/...28/1207/ GPGnews

Your link doesn't work. tell us who and what hole they stuck it in.

Curtilingus's picture

BaScOmBe @ 104:

"Couric" Coined The Unit Of Measurement For Excrement By "South Park"

On Wednesday night's "South Park" on Comedy Central, Stan's dad takes what he believes is a record-breaking sized bowel movement, so he calls for an official weigh in by officials at the office of European Fecal Standards and Measurements in Zurich. The official unit of measurement is a Couric, named for the CBS news anchor, as explained in the clip below. Both Comedy Central and CBS are owned by Viacom.

:lol:

I'm thinking we now have a unit of measure for the media ratings.

Thanks for the clip. I hope Katie sees this. The writers must have watched the same Katie Couric week long bullshit fest from Iraq report that I watched.

sonja's picture

Anybody heard of this crap?

ACLU tries to prevent deportee druggings

The American Civil Liberties Union filed a motion to stop immigration authorities forcibly drugging deportees as they are put on commercial flights back to their home countries.
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The motion, filed Tuesday in federal court, comes after an immigration official testified in the Senate last month that 50 immigrants over a seven-month period were forced to take psychotropic drugs. Many of them had no psychiatric diagnosis.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071010/ap_on_re_us/deportees_drugged_lawsuit

sonja's picture
QuakerDave's picture

Like that coin will keep her warm at night. Five bucks says that thing has lead in it and was made in China...

Where can I go cry in peace?

HulksHeroes's picture

Maybe she can sell the coin on eBay and fill her void with all the coin she will make. This monkey-preznit is so out of touch. Give him two coins and take his two spoiled, rich bitch daughters over to Iraq. This idiot is the most pathetic excuse for a human being I've ever seen. And he's our commander in chief.

God help us....is what I want my magnetic ribbon to read!

konchster's picture

"We see things differently,” he told her.
A helluva lot differently His spawn will never see a shot fired in anger and until they do It's OK for your spouse or child to die in that illegal occupation

nonbeliever's picture

How many more families have to suffer for this pointless war? And he gave her a coin? He is totally disconnected and disaffected from American people. That poor woman.

Liberal AND Proud's picture

"I feel your pain...here...have a coin".

Asshole.

L.A. Confidential's picture

Wheres team C+L this morning?

Indigowatcher's picture

actual @ 18:

Have you guys seen this issue based poll result? When people choose a candidate by individual issues, Kucinich moves way, way ahead:
http://www.dehp.net/candidate/stats.php

==========
Yep, my hubby and I both took the issue poll and were shocked at the outcome:
We both matched up with Kucinich on the major issues!

Indigowatcher's picture

Indigowatcher @ 122:

actual @ 18:

Have you guys seen this issue based poll result? When people choose a candidate by individual issues, Kucinich moves way, way ahead:
http://www.dehp.net/candidate/stats.php

==========
Yep, my hubby and I both took the issue poll and were shocked at the outcome:
We both matched up with Kucinich on the major issues!

Opps, forgot to include the link to the poll:
http://www.dehp.net/candidate/index.php

JohnnyBravo's picture

manny @ 44:

"here's a presidential coin. call someone who gives a fuck"

Bush is sub-human.

willyloman's picture

What? He didn't give her one of those Pens? The ones with the presidential seal on it? He should give her the presidential medal of freedom! No wait, that's an insult these days. He should just give her a couple thousand acres of his escape land in South America. that would be nice.

willyloman's picture

"We see things differently"

Yeah. He sees profit margins for his fortune 100 companies and she sees an empty life without the only man she loved.

Bush is a monster boy-king devoid of any capasity for human empathy. In my athiest world, he is as close to what Christians call "the devil' as you can get.

SteamRanger's picture

Exactly what, in his interchange with this woman gave this moron the idea that kissing her on the cheek was appropriate or even welcome? She should have slapped him, but if she did that, she'd be sitting in a Federal lockup right now.

Dumb bastard thinks that being rich makes you a ladies' man!

willyloman's picture

Don't blame dubya! He comes from a long line of patronizing masagonists. Look at Grandpappy Prescot, for God's sake.

c. atrox's picture

Now let's be fair. Bush gave her a special coin AND he kissed her on the cheek. My goodness, the memories she'll get to share with her next husband!

dan's picture

Their conversation ended shortly after Halley began urging Bush to end the war. “We see things differently,” he told her.

Bush decided she was one of Rush's "phony war widows."

MargeAggedon's picture

I would never agree to meet with the miserable chimp let alone accept one of his worthless trinkets. I'd never feel clean again.

I'd like to see the shrub co. legacy handled the way they did it in the old empires. With all mention of the miserable bastard being wiped from existence. Just a dark blot in the histories explained by the phrase "an evil man of questionable heritage."

dan's picture

I would never agree to meet with the miserable chimp let alone accept one of his worthless trinkets.
MargeAggedon

Oh, I know any number of people who would love to be able to get in front of Bush for a few minutes.

oakborn's picture

Somehow I just can hear Magenta in the Rocky Horror Picture Show saying, 'How sentimental." after Franks floor show song.

SCM's picture

Hattie Carroll was a maid of the kitchen.
She was fifty-one years old and gave birth to ten children
Who carried the dishes and took out the garbage
And never sat once at the head of the table
And didn't even talk to the people at the table
Who just cleaned up all the food from the table
And emptied the ashtrays on a whole other level,
Got killed by a blow, lay slain by a cane
That sailed through the air and came down through the room,
Doomed and determined to destroy all the gentle.
And she never done nothing to William Zanzinger.
But you who philosophize disgrace and criticize all fears,
Take the rag away from your face.
Now ain't the time for your tears.

Jenny'O's picture

yeah, where are the C&L ppl? ok i hope.

this bit may explain the popularity of a border fence with neo-cons---boeing got the contract.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20071012/pl_bloomberg/ambj35dxqwik

OxyCon's picture

That reminded me of this classic:

Bush to mother: Don't sell on eBay
Posted by Mark Silva at 2:30 pm CDT

Several mothers who have lost children at war in Iraq took part in a new talk show today on National Public Radio.

One of them, Elaine Johnson, recounted a meeting that she had with President Bush in which he gave her a presidential coin and told her and five other families: "Don’t go sell it on eBay.”

...

"Then he gave us a presidential coin,'' she said. "Now you check this out: He gave six of us a presidential coin, tell us not to tell the rest of the people that was there, and then after that he told us don’t go sell it on eBay. Now you tell me how insensitive that can be? What kind of caring person is that?''

http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2007/05/bush_to_mot...

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Indigowatcher @ 122:

actual @ 18:

Have you guys seen this issue based poll result? When people choose a candidate by individual issues, Kucinich moves way, way ahead:
http://www.dehp.net/candidate/stats.php

==========
Yep, my hubby and I both took the issue poll and were shocked at the outcome:
We both matched up with Kucinich on the major issues!

I took the poll also and every major issue but one matched me up with Kucinich also. I'm totally surprised since I don't know that much about him. I wonder how I would match up with Gore if only he would run.

Liberal AND Proud's picture

This is what happens when you don't pay attention.

President of the United States...megalomaniacal, spoiled rich kid.

Not a good combination.

iraqconcilable's picture

One of Bush's daughters ( the blonder one ) was interviewed a few weeks back and asked if it was possible that she could be sent to Iraq, or words to that effect . She cracked that famous family shit-eating grin and said that she would be more dangerous over there than helpful and could serve the world better as a teacher .
The interviewer is probably being water-boarded as we speak.

L.A. Confidential's picture

Where's C+L? staff?

L.A. Confidential's picture

No material since 8:30 PM last night?

L.A. Confidential's picture

Thats odd

CensoredFan's picture

Heckuva job Bushie!! And now your Iraqi attackie is creating so many wonderful things. Like what?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21277034/

Right on!'s picture

L.A. Confidential @ 12:

http://www.floridabaptistwitness.com/1992.p7-bush-vert.jpg.image

So he's their god?! What a bunch of sheeple and idiots!

Terrible's picture

TC-14 @ 55:

NOT COIN RELATED, BUT LAPEL PIN RELATED - I NEED YOUR FEEDBACK!
Off-topic, but I really would appreciate your brief feedback on something I've thought about off-and-on for months. Not sure if it's a great idea or Beavis & Butthead.

Let Republicans have their stupid flag lapel pins, 'cause pins are stupid. That said, I'm proposing an idea for.....yep, a lapel pin. How about encouraging Dem leaders to sport "Constitution Pins" on their lapels? They might appear as a gilded, partially unrolled scroll. This pin, like other pins, is meaningless in itself. But it would quickly become a talking point. Chris Matthews, George Stephanopoulos, Bob Schieffer and others will interview Dems and pop the inevitable question for many weeks, "So I see you are wearing one of the new Constitution pins. Explain what that means to you, and why." This would be the perfect set-up for what Dems have been yelling anyway: "We have a president who, in his lust for executive power, has repeatedly undermined our nation's Constitution in a brazen manner we would have never imagined not so long ago. Whether it's illegally monitoring our citizens' communications, claims that torture is something other than that, or outing our undercover intelligence agents for political gain, this is not only unacceptable to us, but it goes against the core democratic principals this republic was founded on. IF THE PRESIDENT WON’T DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, THEN WE MOST CERTAINLY WILL." Etc etc etc. The pins would not only provide a new talking point, but could come to visually symbolize everything that Dems have been passionately yelling about for the past 7 years.

SO, GREAT IDEA?......OR TOTAL BEAVIS & BUTTHEAD? PLEASE LET ME KNOW! THANKS.
(FYI, I can't be offended -- I dearly love Beavis & Butthead.)

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Rufus's picture

Has Rush mentioned her as a phony widow yet?

Jenny'O's picture

this is fun

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22556281-661,00.html

for me she turns clockwise. by the description i don't know if that is bad or good but there it is.
how bout you? righty or lefty?

Grandma Jefferson's picture

She turns clockwise for me too, but I'm left handed!

rainlillie's picture

I posted earlier that I wanted to get some ideas on what we could all together and send the Frost family. I'm heartbroken at the treatment they have received by the right wing nutjobs. This shows you how insane they are, what kind of people would attack a 12 year old kid?

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