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Naomi Wolf at FDL

The author of The End of America: Letter of Warning To A Young Patriot visits FireDogLake to say that she Won't Back Down.**

**Nicole Belle: My apologies to both authors Naomi Wolf and Naomi Klein...I had two posts on their respective books and confused the links. 



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Is this supposed to be about Naomi Klein or Naomi Wolf? I confess I am confused.

Oops!

Wrong Naomi!

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Well, Naomi WOLF's message is one I strongly support now. Americans must take action themselves -- NOW!

Naomi KLEIN's latest book is one that I am itching to read.
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Well I wish her all the luck in taking it to the streets and going up against the machine.

SteveNS @ 2:

Oops!

Wrong Naomi!

lol. Seems like a mistake I would make.

Is this a discussion with Naomi Klein, and is it going on right now? Confused.

Lilybelle @ 6:

Is this a discussion with Naomi Klein, and is it going on right now? Confused.

Nope don't think so.

I love both our Naomi's. Please see if you can get Naomi Klein on FDL. Her message is incredibly timely and incredibly important as we try to correct our course in this country.

Mike B. @ 8:

I love both our Naomi's. Please see if you can get Naomi Klein on FDL. Her message is incredibly timely and incredibly important as we try to correct our course in this country.

They're way ahead of you -- I think they're scheduled to do a book salon with Klein in November (the 18th, maybe?)

L.A. Confidential @ 4:

Well I wish her all the luck in taking it to the streets and going up against the machine.

I don't believe Naomi Wolf wants to do this herself when she says,

"The time for weeping has to stop; the time for confronting must begin."

STOP George @ 10:

L.A. Confidential @ 4:

Well I wish her all the luck in taking it to the streets and going up against the machine.

I don't believe Naomi Wolf wants to do this herself when she says,

"The time for weeping has to stop; the time for confronting must begin."

I don't think the kind of marching at the front of the pack type of leader people need has been born yet who can get us out of this mess.

Human history is a big recycle bin and the foundation of both freedom and oppression is the bayonet. Both hinge on the point in time when the people decide to make their decision as to which they will live under. As history has shown.

Lilybelle @ 6:

Is this a discussion with Naomi Klein, and is it going on right now? Confused.

It's a discussion with Naomi Wolf, not Klein, going on at FDL right now. It's almost certainly a wrong Naomi mix up here soon to be corrected somehow.

** Make that, already corrected. ;)

Later, things to do.

SteveNS @ 9:

Mike B. @ 8:

I love both our Naomi's. Please see if you can get Naomi Klein on FDL. Her message is incredibly timely and incredibly important as we try to correct our course in this country.

They're way ahead of you -- I think they're scheduled to do a book salon with Klein in November (the 18th, maybe?)

Yep.

Shock Doctrine
"She’ll also be here for the Book Salon on November 18"
http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/26/shock-doctrine/

L.A. Confidential @ 11:

STOP George @ 10:

L.A. Confidential @ 4:

Well I wish her all the luck in taking it to the streets and going up against the machine.

I don't believe Naomi Wolf wants to do this herself when she says,

"The time for weeping has to stop; the time for confronting must begin."

I don't think the kind of marching at the front of the pack type of leader people need has been born yet who can get us out of this mess.

I hear you.

But I think it's much more than that. The corporate media has sucked the life and passion out of Americans. It lies. It distracts. It's cynical. And it is incredibly powerful. Until Americans take control of their media (with a lot of help from the internet) -- things are not going to change.

Any potential leaders for this movement out of fascism are inevitably silenced by the corporate media. It's a catch 22 situation, really.

I just hope enough people "see the light" with the alternative media available. It's out there. But Americans need to find it en masse.

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This is all just a lot of overreaction; if everyone would just go shopping things will work themselves out.

Thanks, Sister, for drawing attention to what this Zen poet thinks is one of the most important analyzes to come along in ages.

I'm a psychology grad student, too. Here's what their goal is: to create a state of complete openness to imprinting, to turn whole populations into hatchlings that they then imprint with a world more to their liking.

The goal is to shock us collectively into a condition similar to that suffered by rape victims: tonic immobility, "scared stiff." Then they ram through the Patriot Act overnight. After the first shock wears off, if the patient starts thinking independently again, prepare for round two.

I call on students and practitioners of psychology to atone for this abuse of our science. I'm looking at you, APA!

Man, this always happens to me! I show up at a party after it starts wrapping up.

I have Naomi Klein's book and will buy Naomi Wolf's book as well. Klein and Wolf are two of America's great public intellectuals of our time, even if the former is Canadien. We can all adopt Ms. Klein as a true American patriot truth teller. The same goes for Ms. Wolf as well. I enjoy their work very much.

I also suggest the new book written by Joseph Cirincione titled, “Bomb Scare: The History, Theory and Future of Nuclear Weapons” The Hardcover, List Price is: $27.50. It has 224 Pages, and published through Columbia University Press, January 2007.

Naomi,
I really hate to haggle, yet I find myself talking to people about what's happening to America and many compare my speech to a used car salesman's sales pitch. I'll keep trying.

AbbeyHoffmansGhost @ 19:

This is all just a lot of overreaction; if everyone would just go shopping things will work themselves out.

looks like xxxx man (above) has taken you literally!!! shop shop shop!!!

The title reminds me of Sam Harris's two books.

"The End of Faith" and "Letter to a Christian Nation".

Yes, I'd rather buy books than spend money at the mall on clothes made in sweatshops or at fast food and other chain restaurants. So, criticize me all you want but I do not go to movies or to the mall or to restaurants. I do not drink or gamble. I prefer home cooked meals and a good book to read. Thanks so much. I only shop around for books and perhaps a CD or two from time to time.

I still suggest the books that urged you all to read above. You can always ask your local library to get a copy as well. I have done so numerous times. Thanks.

Mr. XXXX@26

Somebody who thinks lik me. Nice to know!

In the spirit of this book I'd like to point something out.

The CIA/NSA/DIA have refused to say how many extraordinary renditions have been committed (I use the word committed because it is criminal behavior).
BUT they have acknowledged over a hundred deaths as a result of "enhanced" interrogation techniques.

Let's get that into perspective.

If the number of deaths is merely a small percentage, perhaps weak hearts or other physical ailments unrecognized at the time, then we have renditioned THOUSANDS.

On the other hand if we haven't renditioned thousands, then we have killed a significant number of the detainees we have "interrogated".

Either way it is extremely alarming and should be brought to the attention of the US public.

And more to the point, either way you look at it it is an international crime.

10 STOP George@ L.A. Confidential @ 4:

Well I wish her all the luck in taking it to the streets and going up against the machine.

I don’t believe Naomi Wolf wants to do this herself when she says,

“The time for weeping has to stop; the time for confronting must begin.”
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If they attempt something in the elections of 2008, then Americans will react!

garcia @ 29:

10 STOP George@ L.A. Confidential @ 4:

Well I wish her all the luck in taking it to the streets and going up against the machine.

I don’t believe Naomi Wolf wants to do this herself when she says,

“The time for weeping has to stop; the time for confronting must begin.”
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If they attempt something in the elections of 2008, then Americans will react!

At that point it might be too late.

This so-called book can't be any good. The cover is too bland; it needs some pizzazz.

I'll wait till the Fox review comes out.

I am in the middle of Wolf's book - and it is well put together. I have been talking about it with friends and have them intrigued. I plan on just passing the book around. Wolf talks about it as if it were a "pamphlet"....I had wondered why it didn't come out in hardcover first. This is why. It is not expensive....buy it....read it....pass it on. :)

It is amazing how some people are really tuned out. I know some very intelligent, good people who when I mention (for example) Blackwater issues they say, "what's this? tell me more!"

I am itching to get my hands on the Klein book.

Also, the new Susan Faludi book The Terror Dream looks really insightful and well done.

Both Naomis are doing excellent work. Here's Naomi Klein's movie:

http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine

nsr @ 34:

Blackwater employees hold US troops at gunpoint. This is a real story.

Oh. There it is, posted yesterday. Ne-ver mind.

hate2haggle @ 23:

Naomi,
I really hate to haggle, yet I find myself talking to people about what's happening to America and many compare my speech to a used car salesman's sales pitch. I'll keep trying.

I agree. I have even encountered that reaction right here at this blog.

Naomi's book is great. I loved when she was on Colbert's show and Stephanie Miller's show

Don't feel bad, a couple of weeks ago I made a trip into Seattle to see Naomi Wolf give a talk and it ended up being Naomi Klein! Oh well both Naomi's are worth seeing.

I've read the book and I think it's something every citizen of the U.S.A should read. She of course is preaching to the choir here; I've been seeing this shift for the past 3-4 decades if not longer. It kinda all started with the "drug war" that gave the state too many unconstitutional powers.

This fascist shift in the U.S must be stopped. And the citizens are the only ones who can stop it.

We need to go back to the Constitution as the rule of law. All lawmakers swear an oath to uphold the Constitution. They do not swear an oath to any one person. They do not swear an oath to protect me or anyone else. Their oath is straightforward and almost every single one of them has broken their oath

Can somebody please pass along this video to Naomi Wolf?

It completely validates and proves this recent statement of hers:

I don’t think we would react to the Abu Ghraib images now the way we did in 2004.

Thanks!

~nwa

**Nicole Belle: My apologies to both authors Naomi Wolf and Naomi Klein…I had two posts on their respective books and confused the links.

Don't worry. They are both on my A-list of American Patriots. I hope they join up and start a revolution.

The current Apocalypse date is scheduled for some time this winter. God wouldn't tell me exactly when but he did say I need not stock up on pool chemicals for next summer.

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Nicole Belle: My apologies to both authors Naomi Wolf and Naomi Klein…I had two posts on their respective books and confused the links.

They really are a matched pair and I consider it a bellwether as to how far along things have gotten to when someone like Ms. Wolf, whose main prior focus in her work has been feminism, feels compelled to write a book like this.

Just read this extract from Ms. Klein's "The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism" entitled The Erasing of Iraq and what is incredibly chilling about is her description of how the President of the college I attended, (a school where only the Classics of Western Civilization are studied, and nothing else), John Agresto oversaw the complete dismantling of the Iraqi educational system.

This is the Neo-Cons in action, in that the college that Agresto ran in the US was the the incubation chamber for Leo Strauss and his Neo-Con acolytes and disciples. In fact Strauss spent the last years of his life and died on one of their college campuses, and here's a picture of one of Strauss's students getting her just reward, just like George Tenent did, for a job well done. And yes, that really is her real name.

My fear is that what Agresto did to Iraqi schools as outlined in the The Erasing of Iraq article is going to be the blueprint for the final dismantling of the American educational system.

~nwa

Remember Germany was a democratic before Hitler destroyed it. Just think how different the world would be if he would have been taken out before that was allowed to happen.

T H E * N E W * G O L D E N * A G E

"The entire upheaval could last from 2009 to
2016, but if "we the people" strive hard, it could end
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bliss. We will have to persevere in order to open a
new chapter in the ever-flowing spring of
civilization. Our success is assured, because history
is about to repeat itself: after the downfall of the
American business empire will come a global golden
age."

Excerpts from the 2007 book:

THE NEW GOLDEN AGE The Coming Revolution Against
Political Corruption and Economic Chaos
~~by Ravi Batra

"Batra has set the standard for economic analysis."
-Barrons

"Dr. Batra writes about his subjects as clearly as if
he were telling bedtime stories."
-The New York Times

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omens and forebodings, will surprise you: we are
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voter's revolution. Unfortunately, there are rough
times ahead as we tackle the social, political and
economic ills of our time, but then the electorate
will vote for those who favor unprecedented economic
and political reform. So good times will follow bad,
but the end product will be so wonderful that we will
gradually forget the bad. We will come to view our
struggle as the price we had to pay to rid the nation
of the malaise, corruption and injustices that plague
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like wild fire and eradicate poverty within a
generation. The Internet will make sure that the
American renaissance spreads its fragrance all over
the planet. Verily, for the first time in history,
there will be a global golden age.

http://walterkarp.tripod.com/weareentitledtomiracles/id2.html

Dustin de Wynde @ 45:

Nicole Belle: My apologies to both authors Naomi Wolf and Naomi Klein…I had two posts on their respective books and confused the links.

They really are a matched pair and I consider it a bellwether as to how far along things have gotten to when someone like Ms. Wolf, whose main prior focus in her work has been feminism, feels compelled to write a book like this.

Just read this extract from Ms. Klein's "The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism" entitled The Erasing of Iraq and what is incredibly chilling about is her description of how the President of the college I attended, (a school where only the Classics of Western Civilization are studied, and nothing else), John Agresto oversaw the complete dismantling of the Iraqi educational system.

This is the Neo-Cons in action, in that the college that Agresto ran in the US was the the incubation chamber for Leo Strauss and his Neo-Con acolytes and disciples. In fact Strauss spent the last years of his life and died on one of their college campuses, and here's a picture of one of Strauss's students getting her just reward, just like George Tenent did, for a job well done. And yes, that really is her real name.

My fear is that what Agresto did to Iraqi schools as outlined in the The Erasing of Iraq article is going to be the blueprint for the final dismantling of the American educational system.

~nwa

Man, Laura Bush looks like she needs a fistful of pills just to get through the day.

None of this would have been possible if not for the "good fortune" of the Bush Administration to have received a 9/11 present.

Timely?

Gravity is more than a theory, and so is a 9/11 conspiracy.

Truth Be Told @ 49:

None of this would have been possible if not for the "good fortune" of the Bush Administration to have received a 9/11 present.

Timely?

Gravity is more than a theory, and so is a 9/11 conspiracy.

The Afghanistan war was planned before 9/11.

The decision to launch the Iraq war was made before 9/11.

The decision to launch a war against Iran was made before 9/11.

The Patriot Act was written before 9/11.

The government's spying on Americans began before 9/11.

The government knew that terrorists could use planes as weapons -- and had even run its own drills of planes being used as weapons against the World Trade Center and other U.S. high-profile buildings, using REAL airplanes -- all before 9/11.

The government heard the 9/11 plans from the hijackers' own mouths before 9/11.

No steel-framed high-rise building had ever collapsed due to fire before 9/11.

The neocons who now run the U.S. government lamented, before 9/11, that they could not institute their plans for global domination without a "new Pearl Harbor".

From georgewashington.blogspot.com.

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