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On the online exclusive Real Time Overtime, Bill Maher discusses with guests Paul Krugman, Tucker Carlson and Joy Behar on the politicization of the Justice Department and the attempt to apportion California’s electoral votes.

But the proverbial you-know-what in the punchbowl is Tucker Carlson. I don't know exactly where Tucker's beliefs lie (some odd amalgamation of libertarian/conservative views, if I had to guess), but it appears that they are fungible enough to simply be the opposite of conventional wisdom. I suspect that they are less his ideology than his thinking that by arguing the opposite, he is somehow intellectually superior. But actually, he simply gets off on being the contrarian jerk in the room. In this clip, he dismisses the entire conversation by citing some absurd extreme and accuses everybody of Bush Derangement Syndrome.

We already have a fantastic site "Sweet Jesus, I Hate Bill O'Reilly," doesn't it seem time for Tucker to get the same treatment?

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raymond's picture

I think your description of him is perfect.

seevee's picture

You just want to smack him.

Keano's picture

In the line of arseholes he's an Elephant

ANYC's picture

Joy Behar had the best line of the night, calling Michelle Malkin "a selfish bitch"...

John Albright's picture

Do you know last G.W. Bush gaffe? see it here and tell me your opinion...

Scott in Chicago's picture

Tucker will be a game show host and fail at that as well. Then he'll fade into obscurity...

seevee's picture

seevee @ 2:

You just want to smack him.

"You" as in me. "Want to" as in I wouldn't really do it...but I'd want to.

Roundhead's picture

Given everything he's done since he first slimed his way into the Oval Office....shouldn't Bush Derangement Syndrome be classified as a legitimate disorder, one born from an acceptable level of clarity and logic?

metro's picture

Carlson not only was contrarian but he also filibustered every time Krugman was making a good point. It really annoyed the hell out of me and I might not watch Real time in the future if he is one of the panelists. Yes he is that bad!

al larue's picture

TC says Hillary is afraid to face the tough questions.
LOL. Who in the media asks tough questions?

MyGodBeatsYourGod's picture

Fucker Carlson is a Fascist Pig...

His daddy headed Scooter's legal defense money gathering team....

razant's picture

I hate Carlson BUT....he ate up these 3 and most surprising...Krugman. What? 3 jews taking on a gentile....fair fight.....apparently. Just kidding gang.

they all missed Jay's joke at the first about the mocrat Gov. should've got a better lawyer....

J.T.'s picture

ANYC @ 4:

Joy Behar had the best line of the night, calling Michelle Malkin "a selfish bitch"...

She had the other "best line" of the night when she called all the Republican candidates "p@##ies" for not going on The View to face the women.

Tucker Carlson was squawking/debating with all the straw men in his head and in the first segment immediately calls Paul Krugman a "shill for a party" (actually twice in the whole discussion)

Bill also praises Ron Paul for his bewilderment at Mitt Romney's comment about "consulting lawyers" before he would choose to go to war at the most recent Republican debate.
Tucker's head becomes so fat that his collar begins to lift as his tie begins to tighten around his neck

krome's picture

Tucker Carlson has no views. He is a paid, professional devil's advocate. He is even more inconsistent(and fungible;nice usage) than frigging Coulter. At least she seems to be virulently, stupidly fascist. He just seems like he got an A somewhere along the line in Debate and thought he might be able to make a living off it.

Joy Behar s/b on that show more often.

Stacy's picture

So Tucker likes being a gad fly and posing an opposite view even if it is ridiculous. Yeah, he can be annoying, but he is no where near the danger that O'Reilly, Hanniity, Malkin, Coulter, et al are. I do want to smack him sometimes for being such an arrogant wise ass, but I find him entertaining. At least his arguments, absurd as they are, are based in some sort of logic, as opposed to hatered and bigotry like most other wing-nuts.
He was opposed to the Iraq war from the beginning, hates Bush as much as most of the people on this blog, and is for gay marriage and other social issues.
Yes he is very annoying, but never in a mean way. I enjoy watching him make a fool out of himself.

MyGodBeatsYourGod's picture

I enjoy watching him make a fool out of himself....

You need a healthier hobby!!!

krome's picture

Stacy @ 15:

So Tucker likes being a gad fly and posing an opposite view even if it is ridiculous. Yeah, he can be annoying, but he is no where near the danger that O'Reilly, Hanniity, Malkin, Coulter, et al are. I do want to smack him sometimes for being such an arrogant wise ass, but I find him entertaining. At least his arguments, absurd as they are, are based in some sort of logic, as opposed to hatered and bigotry like most other wing-nuts.
He was opposed to the Iraq war from the beginning, hates Bush as much as most of the people on this blog, and is for gay marriage and other social issues.
Yes he is very annoying, but never in a mean way. I enjoy watching him make a fool out of himself.

He was NOT against this war from the very beginning. He was down with the rest of the neocons shilling for the preznit. He's against it now because Joe Scarborough is having second thoughts, but he's against it for all the wrong reasons since he can't bring himself to agree with people like Krugman.

Herby's picture

Jon stewart got it right about this guy. He IS a dick.

I actually hope his game show succeeds. Just get his whinny jackass voice off the news.

noen's picture

The way that you deal with frat boy asshats like Tucker is first you don't give them any airtime. If you have to deal with them your best bet is to challenge the frame. Don't try to argue substance with them because you'll never get anywhere. They have a handful of rhetorical tricks they like to use.

They don't really believe in anything so when Tuckers say "I think such and such..." you challenge him on that. You name what he is doing, "You don't really believe that, you're just filibustering and being an ass." You have to take him out of his game.

Either that or you impose real rules that are enforced and he must follow. Like no talking over other guests. Authoritarians like Tucker need strict rules that are harshly enforced. Anything less they perceive as a weakness and fair game.

Mike's picture

I hate to say it, but Carlson - shrill and annoying as he is - got the upper hand in this one. Krugman and Behar came off as nothing more than apologists for the Democratic Party. In true limousine liberal fashion, they railed and railed about Bush and the Republicans, and then immediately backed down once they were challenged to provide an alternative. At one point, Krugman actually said that the Democrats in Congress couldn't do anything that the GOP wouldn't allow them to do, which really says it all about how weak and politically bankrupt the Democratic Party has become.

jr's picture

Tucker's stepmom is heir to the Swanson foods fortune and he lives in a 4 million dollar house but gets "regular guy" treatment from the MSM

d-man's picture

Indeed, as someone above as already stated, Jon Stewart was right about Carlson. He is a dick.

Pollywarpolene's picture

Tucker is about as smart as that wonderful shirt collar/tie combination he's sporting. The collar looks as if it's sneaking up on his head. Dick- thy name is Tucker.

Fungible Poster's picture

I looked up "fungible." It means "interchangable." I don't see how it works in the sentence, and I don't see that it can be modified "fungible enough."

seevee's picture

I take it Tucker's a social Darwinist. Government's role is strictly limited by the constitution to just providing for the defense of the country, blah, blah, blah... People should be responsible for themselves, blah, blah, blah... Well, these lizards conveniently leave out the "promote the
general Welfare" part of the government's duties as spelled out in the COTUS. I for one don't want to be stepping over dead people who didn't "take care of themselves". This country has been there and done that and that's why we started the social programs we have. Sure, it's a balancing act, but Tucker's ilk want to throw it all out and may the best man win. Were it so simple.

Beth's picture

Doesn't it seem about time that Tucker was out of a job?

Flamethrower's picture

Paul Krugman said "fucked up" !!!!!!

Beth's picture

And why did Krugman, Behar AND Maher ALLOW Tucker to take over the entire show? I watched this with my jaw on the ground last night wondering these things. He was given cart blanche to gab away "knowingly" on every topic. It was a disgrace.

Don Davis's picture

In "Tucker World," where Graeme Frost should be silenced, it would be improper to give voice to a senior citizen in a debate about Social Security.

Yoohoo's picture

Turder? Carlson

Paula's picture

At the closing of the show when Bill mentioned the hypocracy of the closeted gay repubicans, I'd of loved it....I say loved it, had they cut away to a shot of Tucks face.

LibertyLover's picture

Pollywarpolene @ 23:

Tucker is about as smart as that wonderful shirt collar/tie combination he's sporting. The collar looks as if it's sneaking up on his head. Dick- thy name is Tucker.

It was distracting, wasn't it? LOL maybe he should go back to the bowtie...

Gnorm's picture

Tucker is such a weasel. I'd love to see him starring in the next Jackass movie. Picture his face as they strap a chicken to his ass and dangle him over the crocodile pit...

Beth's picture

Paula @ 31:

At the closing of the show when Bill mentioned the hypocracy of the closeted gay repubicans, I'd of loved it....I say loved it, had they cut away to a shot of Tucks face.

Tucker would have probably started to brag about that time he and his big bad ass buddies bashed gay men's heads against bathroom stall doors back in high school.

LibertyLover's picture

seevee @ 25:

I take it Tucker's a social Darwinist. Government's role is strictly limited by the constitution to just providing for the defense of the country, blah, blah, blah... People should be responsible for themselves, blah, blah, blah... Well, these lizards conveniently leave out the "promote the
general Welfare" part of the government's duties as spelled out in the COTUS. I for one don't want to be stepping over dead people who didn't "take care of themselves". This country has been there and done that and that's why we started the social programs we have. Sure, it's a balancing act, but Tucker's ilk want to throw it all out and may the best man win. Were it so simple.

Did you hear where Tucker said he voted for Ron Paul in 1988? I think that deep down, he must be a selfish silver spooner.

tyler82's picture

I agree with most of Paul Krugman's ideas but that guy should stick to writing, his quivering and trembling voice is really started to get on my nerves. He can't answer a question straight up, he seems to be not very confident which can give the audience the impression that he doesn't know what he's talking about

LibertyLover's picture

And Nicole, hate is such a strong strong word..... Billo truly inspires hate in people, Tucker can only engender dislike in my heart.....let's just say I heartily dislike the guy:

"Sweet Jeebus, I heartily dislike Tucker Carlson" would be the blog that I would name in his honor, as long as I didn't have to watch him.

PaulF's picture

What I want to know is - will there be any retribution, any punishment for Carlson, O'Reilly, Coulter and the lot of them when America one day rises out of the Neocon's stinking ashes? Are shaved heads and public humiliation enough? They are as dangerous, as complicit, and as savagely opportunistic as the worst Nazi collaborators and facilitators ever were, if not worse.

Stacy's picture

krome @ 17:

Stacy @ 15:

So Tucker likes being a gad fly and posing an opposite view even if it is ridiculous. Yeah, he can be annoying, but he is no where near the danger that O'Reilly, Hanniity, Malkin, Coulter, et al are. I do want to smack him sometimes for being such an arrogant wise ass, but I find him entertaining. At least his arguments, absurd as they are, are based in some sort of logic, as opposed to hatered and bigotry like most other wing-nuts.
He was opposed to the Iraq war from the beginning, hates Bush as much as most of the people on this blog, and is for gay marriage and other social issues.
Yes he is very annoying, but never in a mean way. I enjoy watching him make a fool out of himself.

He was NOT against this war from the very beginning. He was down with the rest of the neocons shilling for the preznit. He's against it now because Joe Scarborough is having second thoughts, but he's against it for all the wrong reasons since he can't bring himself to agree with people like Krugman.

He was against the war from day one. He is an extreme isolationist. He is not and has never been a neocon. He hates neocons. He made it very clear that he thought the US had no business in overthrowing Dictators. He believes that we should never fight a war unless we are attacked. That is why he was in favor of attacking the Taliban but against attacking Saddam.
And yes, Stewert is right, he is a dick. But that is why I enjoy watching him, the same way I enjoy watching Ari on entourage. Asshole can be very entertaining.

Snowball's picture

Carlson's ideology seems mostly based on arguing for the Conservative establishment viewpoint with high school debate team sophistry. I have my doubts that he believes the crap he spouts or even cares. Political debate for him is more a matter of sport and winning by any means necessary than about ideology. Like most of the Corporate Media talking heads, his only interest is self-serving and playing a role that gives him a spot on TV. There is definitely affirmative action for Conservatives in the Corporate Media. One has only to spout right leaning talking points, no matter how nonsensical, to rise in the ranks of high payed talking heads.

krome's picture

Fungible Poster @ 24:

I looked up "fungible." It means "interchangable." I don't see how it works in the sentence, and I don't see that it can be modified "fungible enough."

It works just that way; his views/beliefs are 'interchangable' at the drop of a hat, just so long as he gets to hear himself talk.

Marco's picture

Their whole "Bush derangement syndrome" BS is so pathetic, as if just by claiming that, they've won any argument, regardless of fact. What a grand cop-out.

Iraq a disaster. "Wow, you're crazy."
The Administration failed LA post Katrina. "How nuts are you?"
They ignored warning leading to 9/11. "You're so soaked in hate."
They outed a CIA agent. "You're so deranged."
Bush and friends politicized the Justice Department. "You need medication for your DRS."

It's so sad they cannot make an argument and defend Bush POLICIES, they must revert to childish "I can't hear you/I'm not listening" games.

Orangutan.'s picture

Tucker Calson was the worst on this show. He has always made me want to puke. I think he was trying to vie for the adopted son status of Bill O'reilly.

We need to learn how to more effectively stand up to these types of jerks. That would be more fun to see.

Daniel's picture

tucker carlson may well be a dick, by which i mean he is a total dick, but the reason why he could walk all over that group is that he is also extremely intelligent. he is assuredly more intelligent than bill maher. he is also better informed on most of the topics that came up than the host of the show even though on several topics, like SCHIP, he is batshit crazy and informed. he isn't a regular guy in anyway, except that he shoots his mouth off about his fears of/for his own masculinity constantly.

he is an interesting if annoying person who should be held at arms length while one listens to what he has to say. he's right more often than he is wrong, in regard to polities and sometimes to politics, but his ideology/methodology go a long way to mess that up.

Marco's picture

And as many have surely mentioned, they, like Tucker on Real Time clearly showed, don't even beleive their own bullshit. It's painfully obvious.

Paula's picture

Beth @ 34:

Paula @ 31:

At the closing of the show when Bill mentioned the hypocracy of the closeted gay repubicans, I'd of loved it....I say loved it, had they cut away to a shot of Tucks face.

Tucker would have probably started to brag about that time he and his big bad ass buddies bashed gay men's heads against bathroom stall doors back in high school.

Yep...he doth protest just a little too much....that turd carlson.

LibertyLover's picture

Couldn't we just send Tucker over to Elvira's castle and have her incinerate him?

AndrewK's picture

If Tucker Carlson is the live pundit edition of an internet troll. That seems to be the only suitable definition for this ass hat. He talked about everybody on the panel assuming Republicans are evil ,but not one word came out of his mouth that wasn't dripping with the assumption of partisanship.

seevee's picture

Elvira mmmmm Elvira!

Snowball's picture

20
Mike Says:

I hate to say it, but Carlson - shrill and annoying as he is - got the upper hand in this one. Krugman and Behar came off as nothing more than apologists for the Democratic Party. In true limousine liberal fashion, they railed and railed about Bush and the Republicans, and then immediately backed down once they were challenged to provide an alternative. At one point, Krugman actually said that the Democrats in Congress couldn’t do anything that the GOP wouldn’t allow them to do, which really says it all about how weak and politically bankrupt the Democratic Party has become.

I'll never understand the knee-jerk viewpoint, so often expressed, that somehow it is Democrats that are responsible for Republican obstructionism. I would rather wait and see how Democrats behave once they are given super majorities in the House and Senate before I determine that the whole party is morally bankrupt. What could Greens, Libertarians or any other third party do different in the same situation?

Beelzebud's picture

Here is an example of why I HATE Carlson. He always uses this form of argument:

"I've been against this Iraq war form the star, BUT"

After the "but" will always follow a defense of the very thing he just said he was against. He does this with every single issue.

"I'm all for public healthcare, BUT" followed by standard right-wing anti-socialist talking points.

"Bush is the worst president ever, BUT" followed by unwavering support for his policies.

ckerst's picture

Carlson is just another low IQ jerk that will say whatever he has to to get a paycheck. There is no belief system or values behind those beady little eyes.

Jerry's picture

Tucker who? :)

do-si-do's picture

Scott in Chicago @ 6:

Tucker will be a game show host and fail at that as well. Then he'll fade into obscurity...

Hah! that's better than the status I give him: he's the Kitty Carlisle of our generation. The perpetual talk show guest. Instead of a diamonded encrusted heart, he wears a bow tie (or used to). So special!

uncle joe mccarthy's picture

Mike @ 20:

I hate to say it, but Carlson - shrill and annoying as he is - got the upper hand in this one. Krugman and Behar came off as nothing more than apologists for the Democratic Party. In true limousine liberal fashion, they railed and railed about Bush and the Republicans, and then immediately backed down once they were challenged to provide an alternative. At one point, Krugman actually said that the Democrats in Congress couldn't do anything that the GOP wouldn't allow them to do, which really says it all about how weak and politically bankrupt the Democratic Party has become.

want an alternate???

impeach, and throw the whole rotten bunch in prison

this thread is based on the above clip...not the entire show

and in the above clip, bowtie boy threw out the old talking point that the dems anger and fears are not based in reality....horseshit

we have what nixon only dreamed about....the first imperial presidency....the man is virtually untouchable

Robert's picture

When Carlson ripped on the Frost's for letting the Dems drag their 12-year old kid into a political debate (allowing them to hide behind a kid), someone should have shot back that he should be ripping Petraeus for allowing himself to be dragged into a political debate allowing the Reps to hide behind the military uniform.

Jenny'O's picture

tucker defends not just the weak and powerless but the gimps of this great nation of ours.

can you fluckin believe that the guy goes on record as standing up for the guy who masturbates while wearing two rubber suits over rubber panties hog tied with a rod up his ass kinda guy that -- well is just the average tucker joe?
i mean fwt?

AndrewK's picture

Daniel @ 44:

tucker carlson may well be a dick, by which i mean he is a total dick, but the reason why he could walk all over that group is that he is also extremely intelligent. he is assuredly more intelligent than bill maher. he is also better informed on most of the topics that came up than the host of the show even though on several topics, like SCHIP, he is batshit crazy and informed. he isn't a regular guy in anyway, except that he shoots his mouth off about his fears of/for his own masculinity constantly.

he is an interesting if annoying person who should be held at arms length while one listens to what he has to say. he's right more often than he is wrong, in regard to polities and sometimes to politics, but his ideology/methodology go a long way to mess that up.

Oh please..... Tucker didn't make one intelligent point through-out the discussion. He only talked over everybody else and made shrill accusations about anything the other panelists had to say. His entire rant about Blackwater was based his deliberate obtuseness over the difference between private contractors protecting the New York Times (a private company) and diplomats (A GOVERNMENT) organization. Half the time his only defense is that's he's consistent (which is unlikely). He's nothing but a troll who is more set on coming out on top or antagonize the other people than furthering the debate.

Chris's picture

razant @ 12:

I hate Carlson BUT....he ate up these 3 and most surprising...Krugman. What? 3 jews taking on a gentile....fair fight.....apparently. Just kidding gang.

they all missed Jay's joke at the first about the mocrat Gov. should've got a better lawyer....

Joy is Italian-no jewish blood in her. That aside, these kinds of jokes are better left in your head & not in print.

shill's picture

How can Tucker Carlson be for Ron Paul AND George W Bush?
Totally stupid.

Chris's picture

I wrote to Maher pleading no more Tucker in the future-he totally ruined the whole show with nonsense points. Is Bill having problems getting panelists? Why not ask Stewart or Colbert?

realnoid's picture

Fucker Carlson is a water boy libertarian not unlike John Stossel.
They register libertarian which gives them one less question to answer when people
question their motives. Do you really think Carlson is just a contrarian type of guy?
"I criticize the Bush administration" is a line that Scar and him use all the time.
Fucker's father is a former ambassador and a prominent RNC'er. Fucker's ties
and connections to the Cheney Crime Family probably go way beyond that.
Joy is good for one one liner which she memorizes before each show and everything
after that is gobble gobble. Pauley Krugman is a geek economist who needs to stay
a w a y from TV. He and Markos should get together and make a blood pact to never
appear in public much less on TV.

ski's picture

New Rule: At least Tucker wasn't getting another LAP DANCE on television.

linjax's picture

He fits a description that I once heard... "His head is so far up his own ass, he can't see anything but himself."

ws's picture

From News Corpse Blog:

Tucker is the son of Richard Warner Carlson, a former U.S. ambassador, director of the U.S. Information Agency, and president of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. He is currently Vice Chairman of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, a pro-war, right-wing think tank whose Board of Advisors includes Gary Bauer, Bill Kristol, Zell Miller, and Richard Perle. Crime may or may not pay, but nepotism and having friends in high places certainly does.

Also, where does Gary Bauer's name come up again? He and Erik Prince's father started the Family Research Council.

What a viper's pit of strange bedfellows!

tb's picture

Heeeee's an asshole.

Jenny'O's picture

see the entire show at the link below.

J.T. Says: I posted the whole Bill Maher from Friday night….
http://broadcatching.wordpress.com

J.T.'s link was on the comments of he Stephen Colbert article.

moondancer's picture

ws @ 65:

From News Corpse Blog:

Tucker is the son of Richard Warner Carlson, a former U.S. ambassador, director of the U.S. Information Agency, and president of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. He is currently Vice Chairman of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, a pro-war, right-wing think tank whose Board of Advisors includes Gary Bauer, Bill Kristol, Zell Miller, and Richard Perle. Crime may or may not pay, but nepotism and having friends in high places certainly does.

Also, where does Gary Bauer's name come up again? He and Erik Prince's father started the Family Research Council.
What a viper's pit of strange bedfellows!

Carlson, Kristol, and the chimp; all legacies- all without a fraction of their daddies ability, all losers.

Moose's picture

Naomi Klein was on Real Time discussing her book the Shock Doctrine.
That was the best part of the show.

Tucker hurts my head. But, I think Bill Maher and Tucker Carlson's politics are not that dissimilar. Tucker also hearts Ron Paul and has hearted him for 20 years. He's an uber-Libertarian and a douchebag.

quebecois's picture

The problem with Carlson is that he was brought up that only winning matters. Winning at all cost is how Tucker defines himself. So, Talking over someone else, insulting the humanity and sanity of people who think differently than him, all those attacks are victories for Carlson. It doesn't matter that he's not making any sense by repeating those absurd talking points, he's made HIS point.

Tucker, Rush, Bill, Sean, and the rest of the rich right fundy fascist media has to be silenced...

It's Me's picture

Carlson's not only hopes to be, as you pointed out, the biggest contrarian jerk in the room, but, like Bill O'Reilly, the only reason he occasionally offers a passing criticizm of a Republican is in order to portray a phony "moderate" position that he thinks will add even more credence to his far more consistant and virulent slams at Democrats.

Like so many other such phony-patriots, his overriding goal is to "annoy libs", no matter how much damage to the country the candidates and policies he supports produce.

groucho's picture

Tucker ruined the show for me. He kept interrupting and going on and on with ridiculous theories, and Bill just let him keep going.
I think he was intimidated by Paul Krugman's intelligence, he kept trying to engage him with challenges. Paul many times had a look on his face like "what the fuck is this guy saying?". I literally hit the mute when he got on his rants, it was really irritating. and his voice, sorry, is like fingernails on a chalkboard. Why is this guy invited to discuss anything?

Lou Fah's picture

How 'bout a C&L limerick contest?

There once was a young man named Tucker
.........
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.........

Hey, P-Krug: Does anything rhyme with Tucker?

Ryoko's picture

Tucker needed a major bitch slap across the face and a gag ball stuffed in his mouth. He was nothing short of rude. What an asshole.

TomR's picture

Marco @ 42:

Their whole "Bush derangement syndrome" BS is so pathetic, as if just by claiming that, they've won any argument, regardless of fact. What a grand cop-out.

Iraq a disaster. "Wow, you're crazy."
The Administration failed LA post Katrina. "How nuts are you?"
They ignored warning leading to 9/11. "You're so soaked in hate."
They outed a CIA agent. "You're so deranged."
Bush and friends politicized the Justice Department. "You need medication for your DRS."

It's so sad they cannot make an argument and defend Bush POLICIES, they must revert to childish "I can't hear you/I'm not listening" games.

You're spot on and Krugman explained their tactics. Rather than debating the facts of the policy, Tucker engaged in personal attacks against Krugman and Maher. No substance at all.

During the show, Tucker accused the Dems of committing blackmail by having Graeme Frost give the Democratic Response about SChip:

black·mail (blāk'māl') Pronunciation Key
n.
Extortion of money or something else of value from a person by the threat of exposing a criminal act or discreditable information.

It's nice that Tucker acknowledges Republicans are engaging in some type of criminal activity or lying with false information, providing the platform on which to blackmail them. I disagree that Graeme Frost explaining how SChip helped him is some type of blackmail. Tucker falsely frames reality to make invalid arguments. Back to the drawing board Tucker.

- Tom

MargeAggedon's picture

I understand that these talking heads may be known and recognized in the US but if they step six feet outside their little circle of cronies they'd discover just how irrelevant they really are.
I don't watch faux. I barely watch tv at all. And I never ever watch any of these cretins. As a matter of fact C&L is the first place I encountered most of them.
I've seen a few clips but for the most part I find them too difficult to watch. There's something really offensive about having a random idiot explain why up is down, wrong is right and evil is good.

Toes's picture

During Friday's show, Mrs. Toes screamed "STFU" at me for yelling "STFU" at Tucker Carlson over and over again.

He never did.

nenabeans's picture

Tucker is a walkin' talkin ruffled pink pair of panties. Childish, I know, BUT it had to be said.

natisman's picture

I usually watch Bill Mahers program twice during the weekend, had a stroke a few years ago, so redundancy sometimes works. I didn't watch this one again though as it was absolutly horrible. why didn't the panelists start giving Tucker backhands across the face or at least Bill Maher use the spring with boxing glove attached!

That boy needs to have a bucket of water dumped on himself when he does that.

Shell5960w's picture

Tucker is different than O'Reilly because everything he says is for his daddy. Grudgingly, I have to give this to Bill-o: he did it himself. As for Tucker, his daddy did. Who else has had many, MANY teevee shows? The ratings get worse, and still baby Tucker stays on. Why? Daddy. The only way Tucker would take the Left side (of course, to be contrarian) is if Daddy said to.

David Van Leeuwen's picture

Tucker,
You say "why should people be forced to get health insurance if they don't want it". OK, the answer is because if they don't have coverage and go to an emergency room, THEY WILL GET TREATMENT and we will pay for it, do you get that?
Logically your position leads to, if they don't have the coverage "allow them to DIE" ; no coverage, no care. If a woman is giving birth, goes to a hospital but has no insurance, the hospital should not provide care, and if the baby or mother dies, that's OK with you?
Your position is not only immoral, it's moronic!
So the next time I hear you say "if people don't want insurance, they should not be forced to have it", go the next step and explain just what happens to them when they need care without coverage. I've heard all your pomp and bluster but you've never thought this through.

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tyler82 @ 36:

I agree with most of Paul Krugman's ideas but that guy should stick to writing, his quivering and trembling voice is really started to get on my nerves. He can't answer a question straight up, he seems to be not very confident which can give the audience the impression that he doesn't know what he's talking about

I was thinking the same thing. He is so eloquent on the printed page, but on the several interviews I've seen, he does seem tentative and ill at ease. But in his defense, it can be near impossible to express a cogent thought when distracted by the hysterical ravings from that pudgy little twit Carlson. I'd have given a year's salary to have had Jon Stewart on that panel. He's the only one I've ever seen that could make Tucky nearly cry.

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I will never watch Bill Maher when he as one of these morons who think that if they yell over the other guests they win...we made him quit wearing his goofy bow tie, now get rid of him. I turn the channel when I see him.

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TomR,

Carlson's misuse (intentional or not, who knows?) of the word blackmail to describe Frost's position in this debate is just one very obvious instance of Carlson's disingenuousness or his complete idiocy. What amazes me is that there are actually people on these comments who make the claim that he is some kind of stellar intellectual IQ genius.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the Bush/neocon regime have assumed an incredibly alarming amount of all pervasive power in the U.S.. Yet, Carlson consistently tried to mock the notion while flapping his arms like a chicken without a head. Someone alluded to the idea that Krugman and Behar came off as stupid and no match for Carlson's incredible intellect -- pleeez -- you don't show intelligence by shouting over other's points and the use of mechanical histrionics. A major aspect of intellect is the ability to state the facts. All Carlson seemed capable of doing was to shout with rhetorical flourish. At least Krugman and Behar had the intelligence to discuss the issues while regarding the facts. I actually found it interesting that Behar was obviously invited on as comic relief, but of all the panel members, she was the one who most often stated the obvious -- either by a valid statement or a completely valid question.

If people actually believe that Carlson is an intellectual genius, I really feel sorry for this country. It means that even after having seven years with a moron for a president, there are still people who can't recognize another intellectually dishonest, disingenuous, bloviating blowhard when they see one.

I can't remember any single guest on Real Time that annoyed me more than Tucker Carlson. Now I know why I never tuned in on his cable show. Just reading his comments about issues gave me an idea of how ridiculous this man is -- seeing him in motion is even more disturbing. What a maroon...

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seevee @ 2:

You just want to smack him.

I was hoping Joy Behar would do it!

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Ryoko @ 74:

Tucker needed a major bitch slap across the face and a gag ball stuffed in his mouth.

This would be what a Republican calls Quality Time.

tyree's picture

the little douchbags wearing a grown up tie, to bad his brain never caught up with it!

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seevee @ 7:

seevee @ 2:

You just want to smack him.

"You" as in me. "Want to" as in I wouldn't really do it...but I'd want to.

I do.. and I would...

And I would not stop until he was a greasy grey splattered puddle on the ground with a bowtie floating in the effluence..

Sorry.. There are some things money cant buy...

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seevee @ 7:

seevee @ 2:

You just want to smack him.

"You" as in me. "Want to" as in I wouldn't really do it...but I'd want to.

I'D really do it.

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Tucker's "Bush Derangement Syndrome
is like the Commies saying critics were insane. The Soviets thought such accusations would diminish the dissidents. Sure, Tucker doesn't (yet) advocate forcing Bush critics into mental hospitals, like the Soviets and many other governments have done. But it's a handy way to slap critics without addressing the issues the critics are raising.

Freud used the same trick as Tucker:

Freud erected an appar­ently invulnerable umbrella against criti­cisms of psychoanalytical principles. He characterized such disagreements, from patients or anyone else, as "resistance" and then asserted that instances of such resistance amounted to "actual evidence in favor of the correctness" of his asser­tions.

from
http://depts.washington.edu/vienna/documents/Gray/Gray_Freud.htm

Come on Tucker - stick to relevant facts and logic, not name calling.

dude's picture

Joy was getting annoyed by Tuckload. Why didn't she just toss him around like a ragdoll. Really whallop the shit out of his pasty ass. Put the boots to em.

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metro @ 9:

Carlson not only was contrarian but he also filibustered every time Krugman was making a good point. It really annoyed the hell out of me and I might not watch Real time in the future if he is one of the panelists. Yes he is that bad!

Exactly, he was afraid that his views would be discredited faster than he could spew them out.

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metro @ 9:

Carlson not only was contrarian but he also filibustered every time Krugman was making a good point. It really annoyed the hell out of me and I might not watch Real time in the future if he is one of the panelists. Yes he is that bad!

I turned it off after Tucker interrupted Paul Krugman for the third time. Tucker is NOT a fucking intellectual; he's average. He's not a deep thinker in way, shape or form.

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Rosanne @ 89:

seevee @ 7:

seevee @ 2:

You just want to smack him.

"You" as in me. "Want to" as in I wouldn't really do it...but I'd want to.

I'D really do it.

Give these people (Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Carlson, etc.) enough verbal rope and they'll inevitably harangue themselves.

Wordsmith's picture

And someone tell him when you wear a tie, fix your fucking shirt collar.

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Salome @ 82:

tyler82 @ 36:

I agree with most of Paul Krugman's ideas but that guy should stick to writing, his quivering and trembling voice is really started to get on my nerves. He can't answer a question straight up, he seems to be not very confident which can give the audience the impression that he doesn't know what he's talking about

I was thinking the same thing. He is so eloquent on the printed page, but on the several interviews I've seen, he does seem tentative and ill at ease. But in his defense, it can be near impossible to express a cogent thought when distracted by the hysterical ravings from that pudgy little twit Carlson. I'd have given a year's salary to have had Jon Stewart on that panel. He's the only one I've ever seen that could make Tucky nearly cry.

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but you know what would be most cool and fun to watch? if a busty blond falling out of her top debated him--tee hee! at least you two would be entertained while watching a discussion about serious issues.
matter of fact i think gwb 2 would have done much better as THE DECIDER IN COMMAND if he had hired a stand-in who was more handsome, smart and articulate.
i always listen to the person who has the sweetest voice when following the machinations of the worst administration in u.s. history...some of the others are scratchy or screechy or droning and dull. i want fun news delivered with a firm, confident and pretty voice...is that too much to ask for in the by god greatest nation ever in the whole wide world?

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Tucker Carlson is the proverbial fly in the fake ice cube in the punch bowl?

boosh derangement syndrome isn't even an argument, but a plagiarized canard from Krauthammer, that serves as a good for all argument panacea.

Steve's picture

"Fuck Tucker, Tucker sucks." -George Carlin

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k2NEzmzfXho

ysbaddaden's picture

I have a logical conundrum for you.

If the "boosh haters" views on boosh are illogical because of their vehemence, than why aren't the "boosh lovers" also as illogically flawed for their views of his infallibility?

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Sorry, I meant ...why aren't the "boosh lovers" also as logically flawed...

Illogically flawed suggest their logical, logically speaking.

RB-Chicago's picture

No wonder his ratings as some kind of "host" are in the ditch...He's a JERK!

I vote yes for the Tucker-Only site...one entry...Tucker SUCKS!

rduke's picture

They should have Celebrity vs Non Celebrity boxing matches.. So us "commoners" can have a go with these "elites" in a ring on tv...

I wager after a few rounds most of these smarmy bastards would have a gram or two of sense knocked into them and they might not be so fast to spit out their oppressive bullshit in regards to issues that really matter .. to us...

I challenge Tucker Carlson...

Finster's picture

Why all the hate for Tucker?

He's one of the few prominent conservatives who isn't a full blown gay basher or a neoconservative war monger. He OPPOSED the Iraq war. He doesn't suck up to the Christian right and he's not a believer in the failed war on drugs.

Don't trash Tucker the way you trash a hate monger like Hannity or Coulter.

Give the guy a break. Don't be so blind in your hatred of Republicans and conservatives that you can't see one of the moderates in your midst.

Tucker Carlson is a Republican in the fashion of Ron Paul. Someone we may not agree with totally, but he isn't a neoconservative war monger, he wants America to stay out of the affairs of other countries.

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Carlson, ManCoulter, Orally, Milkin et. al. are just distractors. That's all they are. They're paid to focus on petty issues to distract the populace from the important issue at hand. They do a fine job of muddying up the waters instead of keeping the debate concise and factual.

Old news, Tucker is a clueless putz, who cares?

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Finster @ 103:

Why all the hate for Tucker?

He's one of the few prominent conservatives who isn't a full blown gay basher or a neoconservative war monger. He OPPOSED the Iraq war. He doesn't suck up to the Christian right and he's not a believer in the failed war on drugs.

Don't trash Tucker the way you trash a hate monger like Hannity or Coulter.

Give the guy a break. Don't be so blind in your hatred of Republicans and conservatives that you can't see one of the moderates in your midst.

Tucker Carlson is a Republican in the fashion of Ron Paul. Someone we may not agree with totally, but he isn't a neoconservative war monger, he wants America to stay out of the affairs of other countries.

8-O...

Tucker is a used douche bag...

He is at best a wind sock...

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Did Tucker's mommy stop dressing him or what? It looks like Tucker had to tie his own tie today. It's flipping. I can't stand that coward creep.

Paul Krugman is a great man. That's pretty much all I have to say about this clip.

Cat Atomic's picture

Carlson was doing his "I know perfectly well that you're right, but I'm going to act as if what you said is so crazy that I'd never even thought of it before" face.

He's an idiot.

habakkuk's picture

As witnessed on Dancing with the Stars, Tucker's brains are located in his feet - that's right, two left feet which sickle, turn and twist involuntarily. This supreme doofus continues to make a total, unadulterated ass of himself in public. On the levels of Intelligence/Consciousness: Tucker Carlson is "unconsciously incompetent". He doesn't know that he doesn't know; therefore, he lacks the insight necessary to recognize that he's one hug laughingstock buffoon.

Tucker Carlson simply "doesn't have a clue".

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Finster @ 103:

Give the guy a break. Don't be so blind in your hatred of Republicans and conservatives that you can't see one of the moderates in your midst.

I especially love how when someone doesn't agree with your views, you accuse them of being "blind in hatred of republicans...."
LOL!

Two points:
1) Tucker is an ass hat for many reasons, many of which have been enumerated by others on this board.
and

2) But most of all, Tucker is an ass hat for the exact reasons which you were mentioned. That is, he "acts" like he's some impartial, reasonable guy when he is in fact, just as damaging as hannity and coulter and other hate mongers. In fact, he is probably more dangerous than those others because he leads the gullible to believe that he's some "reasonable" guy.

Consider yourself duped.

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rduke @ 106:

Finster @ 103:

Why all the hate for Tucker?

He's one of the few prominent conservatives who isn't a full blown gay basher or a neoconservative war monger. He OPPOSED the Iraq war. He doesn't suck up to the Christian right and he's not a believer in the failed war on drugs.

Don't trash Tucker the way you trash a hate monger like Hannity or Coulter.

Give the guy a break. Don't be so blind in your hatred of Republicans and conservatives that you can't see one of the moderates in your midst.

Tucker Carlson is a Republican in the fashion of Ron Paul. Someone we may not agree with totally, but he isn't a neoconservative war monger, he wants America to stay out of the affairs of other countries.

8-O...

Tucker is a used douche bag...

He is at best a wind sock...

Tucker's a douche bag-converted-into-sock puppet dressed in his mother's bow ties. He hasn't a clue as to whom he is, what he believes, or even, for that matter, what the hell he is saying on the air. Tucker's a "pantyweight" on the national media scene and has become irrelevant to the american people.

carefulwiththatAXEeugene's picture

tucker is dense

EMPY's picture

Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson

mudshark's picture

I hate saying his name..so all I'm going to say is he's a pompous ass...and very rude.

mudshark's picture

about once every 9 months or a year I'll e-mail him saying I thought Jon Stewart was right..."He is bad for America".............you should see the look on his face the next few days...he reads his e-mail...oh yeah...he reads it.

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How many 'courics' is that you-know-what in the punchbowl that describes Tucker Carlson?

heathwood's picture

Tucker is a typical ivy league republican, he tries to prove his point by using debate techniques instead of debating the idea by its truthfulness. He uses every fallacy technique and the MSM falls for it every time.

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Tucker: "I resigned from Crossfire in April, many months before Jon Stewart came on our show, because I didn't like the partisanship, and I thought in some ways it was kind of a pointless conversation... each side coming out, you know, [raises fists] 'Here's my argument,' and no one listening to anyone else. [CNN] was a frustrating place to work."

So glad your MSNBC show is such a non-partisan playground Tucker.

Carlson initially supported the U.S. war with Iraq during its first year. After a year, he began criticizing the war, telling the New York Observer: "I think it’s a total nightmare and disaster, and I’m ashamed that I went against my own instincts in supporting it. It’s something I’ll never do again. Never. I got convinced by a friend of mine who’s smarter than I am, and I shouldn’t have done that. No. I want things to work out, but I’m enraged by it, actually."

So glad you haven't been beating the war drum for Iran. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxaqEG8Wut8

Isome's picture

Tucker does not come off as more intelligent or as having a better grasp of the issues discussed during the show. I don't see how anyone can say that. He's obnoxious, but he not more informed or more intelligent.

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Isome @ 120:

Tucker does not come off as more intelligent or as having a better grasp of the issues discussed during the show. I don't see how anyone can say that. He's obnoxious, but he not more informed or more intelligent.

Exactly. He was the loudest, most overbearing in the room - easily outdistancing even Maher the host. But his constant pattern was blurt something outrageous, then immediately backpedal from it when challenged, as if the only goal was to eat up the time with his (and no other) voices being heard. He's another closeted, self-loathing Republican dipshit, IMO.

Peace's picture

Why is Tucker's show still on the air? A test-pattern would get higher ratings! Sh*t, just put Randi Rhodes in the time slot and you'd get a million enraged conservatives watching!

Tucker had only 45,000 viewers to his Oct. 9 broadcast!!! An infomercial must get at least twice that!

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/default.asp

Spicegal's picture

I'm afraid it's true that Paul Krugman doesn't present well in person. He always looks scared to death. I like what he writes, but he should probably not go on TV. Tucker, on the other hand, came across as a whiney, shrill, obnoxious A-hole.

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EMPY @ 119:

Tucker: "I resigned from Crossfire in April, many months before Jon Stewart came on our show, because I didn't like the partisanship, and I thought in some ways it was kind of a pointless conversation... each side coming out, you know, [raises fists] 'Here's my argument,' and no one listening to anyone else. [CNN] was a frustrating place to work."

So glad your MSNBC show is such a non-partisan playground Tucker.

Carlson initially supported the U.S. war with Iraq during its first year. After a year, he began criticizing the war, telling the New York Observer: "I think it’s a total nightmare and disaster, and I’m ashamed that I went against my own instincts in supporting it. It’s something I’ll never do again. Never. I got convinced by a friend of mine who’s smarter than I am, and I shouldn’t have done that. No. I want things to work out, but I’m enraged by it, actually."

So glad you haven't been beating the war drum for Iran. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxaqEG8Wut8

He's the worst kind of a hypocrite......how he ended up on tv is beyond me........as for his rudeness...he can't help it,that's the way the repugs train them...Did I hear Maher correctly when he said TC was going to host a game show?.....will wonders never cease?.

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I thought Maher cut him way too much slack....he could/should have crucified him.

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FWIW:
Tucker is a cruel, heartless person who loves to hear the sound of his own voice.

I cannot get past the night of the Democratic National Convention when John Edwards was named John Kerry's running mate. He "spun" John Edwards law career by mocking the
lawsuit against a pool drain company that knowingly distributed (sold) defective pool drains to parks and clubs, etc. Pools where children and adults played and swam during the heat of the summer. Edwards was asked to represent the family of a 5year-old child who had 80% of her small intestine and 50% of her large intestine sucked out of her as she was playing and got too near a drain that was assumed safe (by the area recreational pool managers and administration), but was known to have been unsafe (by the manufacturer). Ultimately, Edwards won a stettlement for the family so that they could provide care for their child as long as she was alive. (It took many hours of surgery to save her life. She left the hospital alive, but with a colostomy bag, on IV feedings and suffering from many other ills and damage.)

I write about this (I read about it in the book, "Four Trials" by John Edwards) because on the night John Edwards was named as John Kerry's running mate, TUCKER CARLSON MOCKED THE TRIAL, THE CAUSE, AND THE CASE OF THIS LITTLE CHILD. Because John Edwards was a trial attorney. This was not the idealism of a Libertarian. It was the talking point of the Republican opposition.

I did not know who Tucker Carlson was at the time, but I made it my business to find out. I have nothing good to say about him, and no printable thought to express. I only wish I could find the video of his comments. I'd love to have everyone see/hear them.

He is despicable. And anyone who thinks otherwise is foolish or uninformed. What he said that night ought to have got him fired and permanently removed from commenting about anything ever again.

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Maher lost me when he said, '...not all republicans are corrupt.' That ship sailed for me a long time ago. At exactly the time that Senator Warren Rudman decided not to run for reelection out of disgust for the Washington nimrods.

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Tucker monopolized the show. And his points were so beyond the pale, it made him look stupid, bull-headed, and childish. He shouted Krugman down. Next time they schedule Tucker they need to put him up against a really big (size) liberal and see if he still tries to be the cock of the walk. Or maybe a really beautiful liberal, but no more polite, petite liberals.

gene214's picture

What argument did Tucker make?? All he did was whine like some teenage dumbass who was just told his favorite band sucks. He contributes nothing to a discussion, and I would have loved it if either Bill Maher or Paul Krugman had just told him to shut up and let the adults have a conversation.

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Carlson seems to at least be listening. Most of the wingnuts would simply smirk and smile and dismiss out of hand any argument at all.

That being said, Maher blew the argument. It wasn't that the Republicans weren't CONVICTED - they weren't even investigated.

The Alabama US Attorney took an affidavit from a businessman who said he had bribed the former governor of Alabama (a Democrat) and two Republicans (Jeff Sessions, current US Senator and William Pryor former Attorney General of Alabama and currently a federal judge). The US Attorney is Leura Canary, wife of Bill Canary. Bill Canary is a Republican operative and longtime friend of Karl Rove.

Although the allegations were made against all three individuals ONLY the Democrat was even investigated. This is the operative point here. They didn't investigate and find the allegations unsupported - they simply ignored the allegations made against the Republicans. The Democrat was convicted and sentenced to 7 years in prison. The Justice Department REFUSED to release documents pertaining to this investigations to the Senate Judiciary Committee and they were leaked to Time magazine, which is how we know the fact of the case now.

There story clearly implies criminal acts by the US Attorney, her husband, the FBI investigators, Karl Rove, the judge in the case and the Justice Department itself. The Time Magazine piece needs to be read to be believed: http://tinyurl.com/2z6ocj

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leslie @ 126:

FWIW:
Tucker is a cruel, heartless person who loves to hear the sound of his own voice.

I cannot get past the night of the Democratic National Convention when John Edwards was named John Kerry's running mate. He "spun" John Edwards law career by mocking the
lawsuit against a pool drain company that knowingly distributed (sold) defective pool drains to parks and clubs, etc. Pools where children and adults played and swam during the heat of the summer. Edwards was asked to represent the family of a 5year-old child who had 80% of her small intestine and 50% of her large intestine sucked out of her as she was playing and got too near a drain that was assumed safe (by the area recreational pool managers and administration), but was known to have been unsafe (by the manufacturer). Ultimately, Edwards won a stettlement for the family so that they could provide care for their child as long as she was alive. (It took many hours of surgery to save her life. She left the hospital alive, but with a colostomy bag, on IV feedings and suffering from many other ills and damage.)

I write about this (I read about it in the book, "Four Trials" by John Edwards) because on the night John Edwards was named as John Kerry's running mate, TUCKER CARLSON MOCKED THE TRIAL, THE CAUSE, AND THE CASE OF THIS LITTLE CHILD. Because John Edwards was a trial attorney. This was not the idealism of a Libertarian. It was the talking point of the Republican opposition.

I did not know who Tucker Carlson was at the time, but I made it my business to find out. I have nothing good to say about him, and no printable thought to express. I only wish I could find the video of his comments. I'd love to have everyone see/hear them.

He is despicable. And anyone who thinks otherwise is foolish or uninformed. What he said that night ought to have got him fired and permanently removed from commenting about anything ever again.

I remember that. And lo and behold, all the feces flingers on the Right started talking about Edwards and his so called "jacuzzi lawsuits". That's why, when these freaks started going after 12 year old Graehme Frost, I wasn't surprised (appalled, yes, but not surprised). We should have seen the writing on the wall then that these scumbags have no limits to their viciousness.

ashton's picture

That is the first time that I have ever watched Tucker Carlson at length. After watching the whole show, he came off as little more than a complete boob. His logic for everything was something that a child would think up. This guy doesn't seem to know what he agrees with, but rather who he doesn't agree with. He then states the opposite of what he wants to disagree with, simply for the sake of disagreeing.

I honestly can't imagine why someone would watch this on TV on a regular basis.

hmmm. i'm not sold on watching the clip, that's for sure. sort of like one of those times someone tells you "this tastes rotten. try it." tucker carlson. as if he got any less ridiculous by wearing what to his mind was a grown-up's tie.

Finster @ 103:

Tucker Carlson is a Republican in the fashion of Ron Paul. Someone we may not agree with totally, but he isn't a neoconservative war monger, he wants America to stay out of the affairs of other countries.

Joking, right?
He is a spineless Republican chameleon and not a smart one at that.
Comparing Tucker to Ron Paul is like comparing a rat to a lion; they are both mammals.

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Daniel @ 44:

tucker carlson may well be a dick, by which i mean he is a total dick, but the reason why he could walk all over that group is that he is also extremely intelligent. he is assuredly more intelligent than bill maher. he is also better informed on most of the topics that came up than the host of the show even though on several topics, like SCHIP, he is batshit crazy and informed. he isn't a regular guy in anyway, except that he shoots his mouth off about his fears of/for his own masculinity constantly.

he is an interesting if annoying person who should be held at arms length while one listens to what he has to say. he's right more often than he is wrong, in regard to polities and sometimes to politics, but his ideology/methodology go a long way to mess that up.

No he's not. He's a fucking doucherocket.

Did you watch the whole show, & see how he demanded that Paul & the NY Times be put up to the same standards a the government, since both entities employ Blackwater mercenaries? He's screaming at Paul, saying that 'why doesn't the Times put their money where their mouth is?'

Because one is a just a newspaper, & one is a nuclear superpower who illegally invaded a nation that posed no threat to them. Holy fuck, why is that even a debate? Send Tucker back to grade school debate class. ASSHAT.

jimt's picture

How can you folks even watch that asshole? Makes me almost as angry as the video about the Dayton cop pepper-spraying the kid he claims shorted his change.

Ellyn's picture

They didn't get eaten up, they just made the mistake of treating the little turd with respect. What they needed was Jon Stewart. Tucker Carlson is the guy who interviewed Bush about the woman scheduled for execution in Texas. He saw Bush make fun of her in a cruel, sociopathic manner and yet he continued to support him and still to this day supports him. That's all we need to know about tucker carlson (sorry, I can't bring myself to capitalize the little slimeball's name.)

Snarkmeister's picture

Tucker Carlson is someone who's famous for being booted off Dancing with the Stars, has the lowest rated talking head show on MSNBC (after already having been cancelled previously by CNN for poor ratings, I believe) and from what I understand will start a new gig hosting a game show after the first of the year. Seriously, how can anyone take such a pipsqueak seriously?

Larry McD's picture

Turkey Carlson isn't worth the energy to hate.

Every time I see him on screen I contemplate, with reluctant admiration, how he's able to show up on time on TV with increasingly larger dildos up his bum and not squirm anymore than he does. That takes discipline, people, and the only thing that gives it away is that little half-giggle smirk that he does when he clinches his cheeks... yes, THOSE cheeks.

LVogt's picture

Carlson is not a knee jerk apologist for the Bush admin but he is a real jerk. He's just very unpleasant. I have to say though, while I agree with Maher most of the time, he can use a very unpleasant smug, self important tone as well.

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JohnnyThief @ 135:

Daniel @ 44:

...but the reason why he could walk all over that group...

Being glib and overbearing did not make Carlson look smart nor did he, by any stretch, walk over anyone on that show. He was an obnoxious preppy with ridiculous arguments made for the sake of getting airtime. He was a baffoon. Krugman, while more quiet was clearly the most reasonable and well informed person at the table.

GonzoD's picture

I can't even get upset at Tucker anymore. He's become a caricature.

TheOtherGuy's picture

Usually, I can't seem to stand to watch Mr. Carlson for more than two minutes (before I want to throw my shoe at the TV, and change to other persuits; however, I stuck through the whole show despite him.
While he may been a debate whiz-kid in junior high, it becomes quickly becomes apparent (in any subject he might engage) that the young man is devoid of any training in (or understanding of logic.)
I thank you all.... I thought perhaps it was me

rduke's picture

seevee @ 94:

Rosanne @ 89:

seevee @ 7:

seevee @ 2:

"You" as in me. "Want to" as in I wouldn't really do it...but I'd want to.

I'D really do it.

Give these people (Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Carlson, etc.) enough verbal rope and they'll inevitably harangue themselves.

?

They have enough verbal rope to climb to planet Neptune... and yet?...

Zenrage's picture

Tucker Carlson is begging for the same kind of attention that Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter gets.. he can be stupid from time to time, but unfortunately for him, he has just enough common sense that he just can't get conservatives to watch him on a regular basis and feel good about their ass-backwards views on civilized society.

bt's picture

razant @ 12:

I hate Carlson BUT....he ate up these 3 and most surprising...Krugman. What? 3 jews taking on a gentile....fair fight.....apparently.....

Joy Behar is an Italian Catholic. Bill Maher is half Jewish and half Irish and was raised Catholic.

neil's picture

Poor little Tucker....

Shag's picture

Why does that asshole even have a show anymore. Aren't his ratings like .5%? He adds nothing to civil discourse.

Mike's picture

I’ll never understand the knee-jerk viewpoint, so often expressed, that somehow it is Democrats that are responsible for Republican obstructionism.

If a minority of Republicans can obstruct the Democrats, why then can't a minority or even a majority of Democrats obstruct Bush and the GOP? In 6 years, the Democrats haven't filibustered a single Republican bill and in fact have supported so many of Bushs' proposals I've lost count. It's absurd that liberals like Krugman constantly use the obstructionism excuse while totally overlooking the failure of Democrats to obstruct Bush.

What people here don't seem to realize is that Carlson is actually doing the left a favor by pointing out the logical weaknesses in left-wing arguments. Hannity and O'Reilly are clearly nothing but blowhards, and will never agree with you no matter what. Carlson, on the other hand, will sometimes allow himself to be silenced by a good point. Most liberals unfortunately would rather just attack Bush than defend their own ideology.

RickinSF's picture

Carlson needs a mirror.
That tie is awful (probably calculated) but the collar tabs sticking out are ridiculous

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