al gore doesn't want the presidency. so why try to continue dialogue about it. i don't support no one who doesn't want the job.

OT - Dennis Kucinich on Stephen Colbert tonight! Watch it live!

Actually, Al Gore is Joining the Race, for the President of Norway!

I hate to say it, but this country doesn't deserve a brilliant man like Gore for president.

What's more strange is how dumb the GOP and Journalist are. Al Gore won Prize but we have even now more American winners of the Nobel Prize. We as Americans should be proud of all the Nobel winners and it shows that the United States has great Leaders. Now I know the GOP said just give it to General Petraeus for losing the 190,000 US weapons/vest/bullets as now there in the hands of the enemy and Petraeus lied under oath as he gave the report the White House told him to say. But if the GOP/Journalist feel the Republicans need a Nobel Prize just make one up and give it to Bush or Cheney. Look you can buy as Oscar in Hollywood it only cost $10.00 and tell your friends you won, even if you just work at the Post Office.

There's no way that Global Poverty (the real global emergency happening right now) gets more attention in the media than Global Warming (the emergency predicted some time in the future).

When Bill Gates was studying how to give his billions away he approached it like a business. He was shown that focusing on global poverty offered the best bang the for buck. Combating global warming (assuming it could be controled) has one of worst rates of return on a dollar basis. Climate change and natural disasters always disproportionately affect the poor.

Erroll @ 6:

Progressives may want to be wary of Al Gore being a suitable messenger for the environmental movement. As this article demonstrates, his concern for the environment when he was vice president leaves a lot to be desired.

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/

Soooo Wwhhaaaaat?!!!

unfrozencaveman @ 11:

There's no way that Global Poverty (the real global emergency happening right now) gets more attention in the media than Global Warming (the emergency predicted some time in the future).

When Bill Gates was studying how to give his billions away he approached it like a business. He was shown that focusing on global poverty offered the best bang the for buck. Combating global warming (assuming it could be controled) has one of worst rates of return on a dollar basis. Climate change and natural disasters always disproportionately affect the poor.

The problem is that climate change will worsen global poverty and hunger. There are islands that are being slowly swallowed up by the ocean. Eventually, these people may have to leave in masses. It will be like Katrina but with hundreds of millions of people being homeless and jobless. Also, global climate change will effect crop output putting more strain on global hunger.

mister mix @ 1:

al gore doesn't want the presidency. so why try to continue dialogue about it. i don't support no one who doesn't want the job.

Well, usually people who want power are the ones that shouldn't have it.

This whole "debate" is an embarrassment to our country. The rest of the world must think we are even more loony than they thought we were before (and that is saying a lot).

Gore would do wonders if he could convert all of his Global Warming issues into NASCAR terms.

The Bush Admin hates anything with the word "Peace" in it.

I dont understand why everybody thinks that the best next step for Al Gore is running for President. It's as though thats the only way he can be effective...i mean, the fact that he got the Peace Prize in the first place should make it clear that that's not true.

Wouldnt he be considerably more effective as Scty of Energy, the head of the EPA, or even US Ambassador to the UN?

unfrozencaveman @ 26:

For the flooding part, it's not like Katrina. This is a process of decades and if you believe the IPCC (co-nobel prize winners) - 2 feet by the end of the century - the per annum increase will hardly cause mass migrations. Its about the same rate as the last century and anyone outside of abject poverty was not harmed by this rise. For food, the rise of petroleum prices will be far more influencial than changing weather patterns. An agrarian revolution of sort some will have to happen out of neccessity. Thats the problem with making predictions - throwing in too many assumptions based on the present reality. Just ask those who predicted the global population explosion and that we'd run out of food by now. Again the key is poverty. It's not the crisis themselves that bring people down, its the resources available (most importantly human capital) to confront those challenges.

You're partially correct.

Warmer seas mean more frequent and intense storms. So we'll have more Katrina like events, or worse.

Revealed: the man behind court attack on Gore film

The school governor who challenged the screening of Al Gore's climate change documentary in secondary schools was funded by a Scottish quarrying magnate who established a controversial lobbying group to attack environmentalists' claims about global warming.

The only blind morons that don't believe in global warming are the brainwashed Reslugs.

unfrozencaveman @ 32:

Weaseldog @ 24:

Nascar folks just hear the good news about GW.

Try to explain Peak Oil to them and you'll get a blank stare.

Explain Peak Oil to anyone and there's a 99% chance you'll get a blank stare. No Hollywood movies or famous ex-vice presidents to champion the cause. I believe there is a reason for this. If you believe petroleum production has peaked (the evidence is very solid) it necessarily means that a natural decline in CO2 output covers the initiatives nations want to put in place to fight global warming.

Oh, you've noticed those coincidences too? Snark!

As things slide downhill, the environmentalists will get the blame for the declining fuel supply.

Real leaders don't seek power, power seeks real leaders!!

RUN AL RUN FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, RUN!!!!

Erroll @ 6:

Progressives may want to be wary of Al Gore being a suitable messenger for the environmental movement. As this article demonstrates, his concern for the environment when he was vice president leaves a lot to be desired.

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/

I don't care if he's perfect.

What I care about is that he's out there and in people's faces, pissing people off and guilting other people into action.

Bill Gates didn't revolutionize the personal computer by being perfect ( or in some cases lawful or ethical ). But without his efforts you wouldn't be sitting at a computer blogging. Either you'd be sitting at a home built computer that you put together yourself or you'd be sitting home watching TV and rotting your brain. Whatever you think of Bill Gates, Windows popularized the PC.

What we need as a Bill Gates of the environmental movement, which is exactly what Gore is ( without all the anti-trust stuff ). He is a high profile person, taking up a cause. Whatever his actual motivations are, he's out there actually *doing* things and pissing off the right wing and mobilizing a lot of people to actively get off their asses and do something. You don't have to be perfect to contribute. You just have to contribute.

And as far as his environmental record during his Vice Presidency, so what? What were you off doing during that time period? I know I was off being all gloomy Goth (they call it Emo now) and bitching about how nothing would ever change. It's been seven years since the end of the Clinton Presidency and the one thing I've learned is that if you let politics handle itself without becoming involved the politicians will take a huge dump on your chest, laugh at you and then charge you money for the privilege of them wiping their asses with your face. Does my time spent as a gloomy Goth mean that I'm not an activist now or that my actions to help better the nation and the world have no meaning?

No. Why? Because people change.

Without a decent spokesman that has a public face to stand for it, the environmental movement would still just be a bunch of 'Dirty Hippies', fluffy bunny Wicca and climate scientists railing at the oil companies and losing while the rest of us would go back to watching Oprah. We've known about the adverse effects of the use of petroleum products on the environment since at least the 60's, yet nobody has done anything on a major level to stop it. It's always been grass roots. Little victories and major setbacks.

Well now we have a Bill Gates to show the mainstream that the environment effects them too. So if you don't like Al Gore that's fine. But he's still doing more than you will ever do just by getting people to recognize environmental issues as something that effects all of us.

This brouhaha over the Nobel Peace Prize could be settled once and for all-SCOTUS can award it to CheneyBushCo instead, for their tireless efforts to bring peace to the Earth through war.

Ricky Shambles @ 30:

Evidently the award does not showcase Gore but tarnish the Peace Prize, as Sean Hannity so clearly stated on Friday:

Prizes like this, they're meant to reward excellence; it's supposed to award achievement. It's too bad when those standards are cast aside in favor of advancing a leftist ideology. That's what's happened here, that's why at the end of the day, the Nobel Peace Prize is meaningless - absolutely, completely meaningless and it's also why the MoveOn.org mainstream media is going to make as big a deal about this as they possibly can.

He then went on to nominate George Bush and our troops - those guys and gals at war - for the peace prize. Rinse and repeat for the next 2 months.

So liberals control the NPP process and decide on who wins?

Wow, can I win next year, please?

slippytoad @ 36:

slippytoad @ 12:

Erroll @ 6:

Progressives may want to be wary of Al Gore being a suitable messenger for the environmental movement. As this article demonstrates, his concern for the environment when he was vice president leaves a lot to be desired.

Your concern is duly noted. Did you want to post any supporting discussion for us here? Or would that take too much effort?

So, Erroll, I haven't noticed any attempt by you to return and actually state your case against Al Gore. You've had ample time to do so.

At the risk of being vilified for daring to criticize a Democrat, I would like to point out why I am less than thrilled with the former vice president.

1) During the 2000 presidential election, Gore advocated extending the no-fly zones over Iraq, meaning that any Iraqi plane flying over that space would be shot down by the U.S. military.

2) Gore was against continuing relations with Iraq as long as Saddam Hussein was in power. He was also in favor of the CIA ousting the former dictator, which, of course, is what the U.S. did in countries like Nicaragua and El Salvador in the 1970s and 1980s.

3) As George Monbiot, the noted environmental and political activist from the UK and who writes for The Guardian observed on Democracy Now! last week, that while it is commendable that Gore is making people around the world more aware of the environment, he is more reluctant to speak out against countries which have been illegally invaded by extremely specious reasons.

4} Speaking of the environment, Al Gore used his influence to persuade Bill Clinton not to back the Kyoto Protocol, which is the largest international environmental agreement in history. As flashy as the film An Inconvenient Truth was [I was certainly impressed by it], when Gore had his chance to show his true environmental colors, he failed at the task.

5) Gore's father was intimately connected with Occidental Petroleum and his son currently benefits financially from that relationship.

6) He is against the immediate withdrawal of those troops from that abattoir in Iraq.

7) He is against defunding the war/occupation, which, as liberals should be aware of, is the best way of getting the troops back to this country in one piece.

8) Despite the plethora of crimes that this administration has committed, Gore is against impeachment.

9) He has refused to demand that the U.S. withdraw its over 700 military bases that it has stationed around the world.

10) He was against returning Elian Gonzalez to his father, a most decent and honorable man, to where he lives in Cuba.

The problem is that the center of this country has shifted so much to the right that someone like Gore is considered to be on the left while those in Europe are stunned that [so-called] progressives in the United States are not doing more to push and promote the candidacy of Dennis Kucinich, a progressive in the true sense of the word.

The GOP hate dems and any success they have. It eats at them that the world may see a democratic vice president as a contributing figure that has helped expand our knowledge of pollution and how as usual the GOP has f***ed up again. They cannot do anything right except line their pockets with money. The GOP are maggots on our world. I will never vote for a republican.

Sorry, but the cartoon is not funny.

Oh, and by the way, Al, get some balls. You lacked them in 2000.

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