MSNBC Beating Drums For Bombing Iran
By Nicole Belle Sunday Oct 14, 2007 5:58pm(guest blogged by Bill W.)
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As the details finally begin to emerge from the Israeli air strike on a "a partly constructed nuclear reactor of North Korean design" in Syria last month, MSNBC just can't help but ask: "Will US Copy Israel?" and bomb Iran? Despite the fact that MSNBC correspondent Kevin Corke even admits his sources in the pentagon both on and off the record tell him a "resounding no" and they deny that Israel's strike "had any impact whatsoever on US policy," MSNBC chose to run this piece with the subheading "U.S. Weighs Options on Iran After Israel Sends Jets to Attack Syria" anyway, because it "makes for interesting conversation."
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Clearly they are part of the problem.
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All of NBC's news programs are turning to the right, including the Today Show and Meet the Press.
It's just pre-sweeps idiocy. More television urinal-ism. I can't bring myself to look at any of it anymore.
www.theskinofmyteeth.com
David B.
Is there any doubt that the echo chamber is biased toward a particular interest?
I made it up to the part where he referred to this country as "the homeland."
TELL THE NETWORKS TO NOT FOLLOW THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION'S LIES!!!!!!!
U.S. war lovers are capable of anything. They dig war.
Revisit the lessons of what the NYT did in re Iraq invasion, and apply them now to MSNBC.
Instead of reporting in this dumb-ass manner about that which they have no clue about these assclowns of the ReichWing should be worried....
Real gotdamned worried about this.
'Cause if those ideas catch fire these idiots will be lookin' fer a new job.
PLEASE PLEASE...someone out there with money or other resources to check back go look and see what SPITTLE BOY MATTHEWS was doing and saying during the "drumbeat to Iraq"...watching him just now with Graham and Crosby talking about their appearance at a PEACE CONCERT tomorrow night I wanted to GAG...he's trying to revise himself as someone who was ALWAYS against this war....I'm betting he was panting after getting SH just like Bush and COmpany...I KNOW he wasn't asking the "HARDBALL" questions...but, oh, now that it looks like the worm has turned he's all over being TOUGH on Bush and CO...there are precious few in the press who should be patting themselves on the back for doing the job they should be doing...informing the electorate and investigating the stories they present.
Just as the Democrats and Republicans are two wings of the same bird, so are the governments of Israel and the USA.
Anyone who attempts to talk bad about Israel and their politics of murder, torture, and genocide in the Mid East will immediately feel the wrath of being labeled an "anti-semite."
It is nearly impossible to find logical, clear headed discourse on this subject. If they want us to do their work for them and erradicate another sovereign nation, we will.
bombing nuclear reactors is breaking international law.
They tried the nuke scare as their excuse to attack Iran
That didn't work.
They tried the Iranians are the ones killing our troops.
That's not working so well.
Israel bombs Syria (with faulty intel no less)
Is the third excuse the charm? If Israel starts up some shit won't our government say we have to help them? They accuse the dems alot of using backdoor ways to get what they want, but I think the right know more about using the "backdoor" than anyone. PUN INTENDED
What do we have to lose? Iran...Iraq....Shia...Sunni. Chances are, Bush couldn't tell you the difference.
Iran wants to influence Iraq to join them in replacing the U.S dollar with the Euro as the new petro currency. As an incentive to foreign nations, Iran is willing to sell their oil below the OPEC price. If a large nation like China dumps hundreds of billions of dollars on currency markets in exchange for Euros for their oil purchases, the US economy will face a cataclysmic monetary crisis. The US govt will not allow that to happen. The White House will invent an excuse to bomb Iran into the stone age if it comes to that.
Do you really think that the Syrians would start to build a nuclear reactor above ground , in view of American spy satelites and within range of Israeli F15's?
You'd almost think the companies owning the networks are also profiting from military contracts ... oh wait! They are!
Who can trust these days? Blogs, blogs, blogs ...
SCHRODINGER'S CAT @ 16:
Very good question. Too bad the msm won't ask it.
MSNBC, STFU.
Pelosi caught in the headlights.
Let's put it this way, will the US attack Iran and fend off a missle crisis with Russia and China at the same time?
I remember when this guy was a cheap Sportscenter-wanna-be, doing the sports report in Denver. Can't watch the video till I get home, but thanks for the memory trip.
Yeah let's go after Iran. Because there's so many good things going on in IRAQ!
THEY JUST CANNOT GET ENOUGH DEATH!
...An Associated Press poll in February found that the average American believed about 9,900 Iraqis had been killed since the end of major combat operations in 2003. Recent evidence suggests that things in Iraq may be 100 times worse than Americans realize.
...Finally, last month, the respected British polling firm ORB released the results of a poll estimating that 22 percent of households had lost a member to violence during the occupation of Iraq, equating to 1.2 million deaths.
...So multiple polls and scientific surveys all suggest the official figures and media-based estimates in Iraq have missed 70 percent to 95 percent of all deaths. The evidence suggests that the extent of underreporting by the media is only increasing with time.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.iraqdead09oct09,0,6...
telecom @ 5:
I thought we were the "heartland", oh, my mistake, that's the part of the US that stupidly voted for Bush, TWICE, and now their kin are over in Iraq like sitting ducks waiting to be slaughtered after the US bombs Iran.
These people should be run out of town.
When I was growing up I had heard about how the Hearst press had fomented a war.
As is often the case, if people don't care about history - or if true history is being denied to us - it will be
repeated over and over again.
Maybe the only way to counter these bloodthirsty folks is to boycott the channel and all of their advertisers.
mrogi @ 15:
Interesting... China can destroy our economy and our nation without even firing a shot. Keep a close eye on this phantom stock market. It's not going to burst, it's going to blowup.
Its like having a live camera feed from one of those brilliant think tanks!
Do they ever publish a score for those think tanks?
Was the purpose of the Israeli raid to set a precedent? After all, if it was a nuclear reactor, it was far from completion.
Is this Israel's way of saying that the US should also strike Iran well before anything is a real threat?
If so, I don't buy it, but the DICK and the Decider will.
USA should wait until the Putin visit. Hell, kill two birds with one bomb. That should make the Repukes cream in their jeans.
In 1981 Israel bombed Baghdad's nuclear reactor. If Saddam actually had WMDs in 2003 there would've been no US invasion. Israel would have attacked and destroyed them. It is Israel's national policy to preemptively neutralize the mass destruction capability of hostile nations in the Middle East. If Iran becomes a nuclear threat, Israel will take out their reactor before the US got their first F-16 off the ground.
We still don't really know that a nuclear reactor was bombed in Syria. We haven't seen any evidence. Officially, no one has said it was a nuclear reactor. I seems kind of strange for Syria to be building a nuclear reactor just to produce fissionable material to build a bomb. Wouldn't they just buy the material fissionable material they needed from North Korea if that was their intent?
This whole case for a nuclear reactor in Syria is built on rumor, innuendo and anonymous sources. Someone should be asking for evidence. They're not even talking about aluminum tubes this time.
Nothing and I repeat Nothing can be taken at face value from Ckinda-sleezy and the Israeli govenment these days. It is all Roved before released.
Kevin Cork, MSNBC's "reporter" referred to the United States as the "homeland"! What a wanker.
GE owns NBC. GE builds nuclear power plant turbines. GE is one of the largest military vendors to the Pentagon.
The media would love new fresh war.
More viewer$!!!!!!!!
ambrose54 @ 34:
Maybe it's the other way around ... Iran feels threatened.
Iraq had squat and look at the wonderful things America did to it.
If Iran bombed anyone, what do you think it would get in retaliation? Remember the Cold War's 'MAD'? This isn't even close.
EJ @ 11:
I won't call you an anti-semite. I will, however, call you a total loon.
fuddled @ 37:
There seems to be a huge conflict of interest here ... don't expect the 'media' to point it out tho.
What a screwed up world.
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"As the details finally begin to emerge..."
Sorry, but what DETAILS?
Not one iota of evidence or reasoned argument has been presented by the NYT articles ( at least 4 at so far) on this subject. All is conjecture and supposition. IF the strike DID hit a nuclear facility, why aren't the Israelis and the US trumpeting that "fact"? Would it not serve their perspective administrations' interests and fit with their latest rhetoric and policies? Why the secrecy?
Because its rubbish. that's why. Even the most aggressive warhawks with their media buddies can't make this turkey fly. The Syrians are embarrassed that their arispace was penetrated so easily. The Israelis are embarrased that they hit nothing worthwhile. The US has nothing to use as a result.
There are NO details to report, none have been provided, just anonymous sources guessing at what occurred and what it all means.
I would like to know where is the proof that Syria was building a nuclear reactor. So far, all we have is Israel's word for it and I believe Israel about as much as I believe Bush.
ambrose54 @ 43:
Please define Islamofascist.
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ambrose54 @ 47:
Are all of the people in Iran Islamofascists?
I don't watch cable news.
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Carmikl @ 49:
Sure.
No one in Iran cares about their own family.
Only Christofascists do.
ambrose54 @ 34:
That talking point has been discredited. The president said "if" they were attacked by Israel that they had a plan for retaliation. Big diff.
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http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=11756
Why are the Israelis lying about striking a "nuclear facility" in Syria?
"In attacking Dair El Zor in Syria on Sept. 6, the Israeli air force wasn't targeting a nuclear site but rather one of the main arms depots in the country.
"Dair El Zor houses a huge underground base where the Syrian army stores the long and medium-range missiles it mostly buys from Iran and North Korea. The attack by the Israeli air force coincided with the arrival of a stock of parts for Syria's 200 Scud B and 60 Scud C weapons."
The moment this story hit the headlines, the alarm on my bullsh*t meter started clanging pretty loudly. But what, one wondered, was the purpose of this elaborate deception?
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ambrose54 @ 31:
You're either a bad troll, or you're OD'ing on the KoolAid ...
Marvin El Canucki @ 39:
I agree with you. Iran has achieved 1st world status without the USA's help and the neocon agenda is to do what they did to Iraq. They have "10,000" sorties planed already for the first week...WTF??
ambrose54 @ 51:
What percentage of the population do you suppose that is?
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redestructionist @ 40:
What the hell is wrong with some of you?? Why the adolescent name calling. Are you unable to articulate beyond that? This is a great blog that should inspire people to write from their mind and heart, not their butt.
Attempt to show how what I said would make me a "loon" rather then just blurting it out so we all can grow.
I was speaking with a good friend who works for a well-known think-tank, and who was one of the very few doing work on Islamic terrorism well before September 11 - he is stationed in Dubai and makes day trips to other countries to meet with his contacts and scholars. I saw him at a party a bit ago and asked what he knew about the gathering war with Iran. He told me there would be war with Syria before there was ever war with Iran. He said the struggle is going on in Washington between Cheney's group, who wants further war in the middle-east before the end of their term and those at the State Department who are arguing against it. Americans and Israelis, he said, were just waiting for "an incident" to justify the attack on Syria. I asked what he meant by "incident" and he told me "nothing specific, anything to justify the attack". Two days later Syria shot at Israeli planes flying over their air-space. Doesn't it seem weird that this bombing happened with no retaliation or response from Syria? Now, in light of no Syrian response, the bellicose rhetoric is being cranked-up again.
The right-wingers in the US and Israel seem determined to find "weapons of mass destruction" in order to justify further attacks in the region. If not in Iraq, then Iran. If not in Iran, then in Syria.
My friend expressed his hope that any war wouldn't start too soon. He wanted to be "home in time to watch the show from his balcony". You can watch the show from the comfort of your living room in Washington John, but these are real people whose deaths you are cheer-leading.
What my friend said made clear that the plans are already laid. I'm not sure that this story published in the pages of the NYT is not another stepping-stone laid in the path further justifying more neo-con death and destruction in another nation standing in the way to American style open markets for what remains of the world's oil riches.
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Unconscionable.
ambrose54 @ 64:
'K ... now I know you're just trollin' ...
JohnnyBravo @ 23:
Hey! They've now got a free market economy!
What more could they ask for???
Man that troll must be drinking the hard core koolaid.
Too many errors for me to correct them all so here are a few.
Iran had NOTHING to do with 9/11.
Iran has metropolitan cities just like we do. They like our culture, music and movies. They don't deserve to die and have their country destroyed because someone wants to show how big their dick is.
Since the troll thinks he has all the answers, I will ask one question. Maybe 2
When was the last time Iran attacked another country? President Alphabet may say stupid things but if that was the criteria for attacking them, we better head for the bunkers, because bush says stupid stuff often.
Wasn't bush warned that if he destroyed Iraq (who by the way didn't cause 9/11 either) that Iran would be emboldened?
ambrose54 @ 64:
For a start, take your own advice, hypocrite.
ambrose54 @ 64:
Behold, ambrose54 cometh unto thee, full of pride, and sitting upon his arse, and a colt the foal of an ass.
“U.S. Weighs Options on Iran After Israel Sends Jets to Attack Syria”
If the entire populace of the country of (fill in random nation here) decided to down copious volumes of Peyote' and gin, then decided to have butt sex with their pet dogs/cats/ferrets, and later simultaneously opted to off each other in groups of two in a million murder/suicide pacts, then perhaps WE IN THE U.S. SHOULD "WEIGH OUR OPTIONS" AND POSSIBLY TRY THAT TOO???
"All of NBC’s news programs are turning to the right, including the Today Show and Meet the Press."
All of NBC's new viewers are turning to the left (talk radio, internets, and more)
[...] MSNBC Beating Drums For Bombing Iran [...]
Following The Bouncing Lies
Out of Washington today are reports that Al Qaeda has been defeated. Yes, the ghostly enemy no one sees has been developed to be in Iraq, killed in Anbar Province, and now have been defeated by the mighty American Army. We won after all.
With the Iraqi mission wrapped up, the US can now focus on the next evil axis member: Iran. There is one thing that now seems to be a pattern of the Bush administration and that is they broadcast their next move. It is almost like they are laying the cards out to kids: First we kill one enemy then we kill the next.
This is why I resorted to supporting which ever Democrats stands the best chance of getting these murderous bastards out of office. Behind the bouncing lie reside real people who's lives have been turned upside down. While back in the US, are legislators debate over the fate of a people in a third party exercise they call debate. Welcome to the modern world of the great United States.
Joseph
Christianity doesn’t have the same history of violence as Islam, so if we convert them all, their bloodlust will end..
The ignorance of history is absolutely breathtaking. Must have been home-schooled.
Abrams is trying to "prove" the network isn't "liberal" by embracing every AEIism
Contessa Brewer is such a fucking airhead. Makes statements as if they are geopolitical fact. This story is phony from one end to the other. And the NYT story is a journalistic disgrace. Not ONE name for attribution, like 'Early Iraq'.
The only Western reporter to go to where Israel was "supposed" to have hit was Trish Schuh.
She filed this report Sept. 18. Read it.
Someone needs to tell me the point at which the function of the news switched from reporting things that actually happened to making predictions about what WILL happen. It drives me crazy - I don't expect them to be able to predict the future, BUT THEY SHOULD STOP TRYING, BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY BAD AT IT.
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Kevin Corke is one of THEM!!!
He talks about America as the "Homeland"!
QUESTION:
When and where else in American history has America been referred to as...
The Homeland?
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Thats why they are declaring victory over al-quida in Iraq, so they can attack Iran. All about oil reserves.
Please libs! Neocons are NO rightists or conservatives, they are Trotskyites. They are statist internationalists.
ambrose54 @ 31:
Hey ambrose. There's a terrorist under your bed.
Boo! Did you wet yourself?
If I were a media/propaganda outlet, I would look long and hard at the war crimes tribunal of Rwanda, where the media owners and media personalities were convicted of war crimes for their role in fomenting and advocating the genocide. What the neocons are contemplating and advocatingf is a war of aggression, which is a war crime in itself. Would Jeff Immelt (CEO of GE) be reay to tolerate propagandizing and incitement to war crimes if he new he personally, his board and the company's assets could be held liable for crimes against humanity? These propaganda outlets are driven from the top down, and it is the people who run them who bear greatest responsibility for the fruits of that propagandizing.
Typical war propaganda.
Do what you can to set the seed of doubt and then put them in the position where they must face it directly.
These goons will do all the propaganda about attacking Iran and regardless of popular support or not, they will attack if they think it will work.
Once you have committed the people into the attack, they will not pull out. Regardless how wrong the war is, the people will stay in because they do not want to lose anything.
Just like in a poker game.
Get your opponent to put his money in and he will not pull out because he cannot grasp that he will lose the money. Even if your opponent knows he cannot win and that he is doomed to fail.
This has been played a thousand times all around the world since the dawn of time.
Look at her vacuous eyes into the empty abyss that is her mind. That one picture says it all.
Dear Mr. Podhoretz:
You better chill out before I shove an SS-18 up your ass.
Hugs and Stuff.
Vlad
This is what is called "Talking onself into a war."
I don't like buzzwords like "the homeland" either. Sounds a lot like "Die Vaterland".
As someone who watches a lot of MSNBC, I have to say that they have some of the worst news coverage during the day. When it's not fluff pieces or stories about missing white girls, it's Republicans being given forums with no counterpoints and anchors (read: Brewer) who fail to ask important clarifying questions during the course of the discussion. I know that many of them are very well-qualified journalists, but it would be hard to tell from some of their coverage.
the media groundwork for bombing iran has been and continues to be done on talk radio, just as it was for iraq. the repetition of lies and exaggerations there trickles up and makes it acceptable for the rest of the traditional media that might normally be a bit more sceptical of the war cheerleaders.
wave the protest signs and boycott the local sponsors of the local talk radio stations or their national and local chickenhawk blowhards and armchair toy soldier generals will cheerlead America into another war.
You're right, trank. Boycoting sponsors is a language they understand. Voters don't have any real power in any so called democracy, but consumers do.
telecom @ 5:
Seriously, "Der Homeland"? Guess we will be annexing our english speaking neighboors soon (Canada)?
Oh yeah, and "let freedom reign" hopefully for a thousand years?
Ace @ 89:
Sounds a lot like CNN coverage. Reporters seem to have forgotten how to ask a follow up question. In fact, the lack of a follow up question seems to mean that the reporter agrees with the person they're interviewing and they don't want to mess up the interview with a lot of inconvenient facts. It seems like most of CNNs follow up questions sound like Republican talking points.
CNN also has a nasty habit of interviewing their own reporters as though they're experts on that particular topic. At best, information filtered through a reporter is second hand. Rarely are they experts on any of the topics they discuss, and all they really offer is opinion based on second hand knowledge.
WAIT, it must be true because somebody pretty is saying it.
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