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Stephanie Miller calls Chris Matthews a "Right Wing tool."

Talk show host Stephanie Miller was on Hardball today talking about Rep. Peter Stark's remarks about Bush's SCHIP veto and should he apologize over them when she said this about Chris Matthews:

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Miller: ...it gives other right wing tools like you an issue Chris..."

Matthews: Like, I'm a right wing tool?"

Miller: You must be doing your job because I heard someone on FOX call you a liberal. To me it fills the news cycles with this instead of Iraq.

Matthews genuinely looks stunned and not very happy. She says later that she was kidding. He brings up Media Matters...The other right wing tool, hehe...Kevin Miller, says Stark should be censured in Congress...lol



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We should all call Stark's office and tell him he better not back down. He has huge brass balls to do what he did. The Rethuglicans are PO'ed because he told the truth.

Who the hell is Kevin Miller, and how did they pry him away from the all-you-can-eat luncheon at Sizzler?

Tools all-round it seems.

Matthews is such a fool. Neither side can stand him--thank god, you watch him so I don't have to.

Tweety's on Bill Maher tonight--I just checked over on Real Time's site and I had forgotten that tonight is the night for Matthews. What's the over/under that he will monopolize the conversation and it will be "Hillary, Hillary, Hillary"?

O/T Go over to TVNewser and check out Fishbowl DC--wait until you see the lineup for the Sunday talking heads. Other than Colbert on MTP--it's a very Conservative Sunday. Good day to sleep in.

I wish she hadn't said she was kidding. I think we should call more of them right wing tools

Miller meant what she said. It slipped out and surprised even her. He's a right-wing tool, all right.

The fat man needs to go to hell, however.

In Bush's defense, he really did believe the outcome would be different.

there you go Chris. Defending the war monger after being called a right wing tool shows that you are what she said.

OK Matthews if Bush doesn't intentionally kill Americans, can we at least get him for involuntary manslaughter?

Matthew's problem is not that he's a right wing tool.

It's that he so much wants to get his hands on right wing tools.

Last time I checked, drunk drivers didn't "mean" to kill anyone. Yet they're still prosecuted for vehicular homicide.

When did Bush's "intentions" excuse his disaster? What type of tortured logic is that, Tweety, you right wing tool?

I saw this. I actually felt bad for Tweety. You don't go to someone's house, on their invitation, and then piss on their carpet. Is she right? Absloutely. But she shouldn't have said it on his show.

Only in the US would Chris Matthews and Hairball be considered "moderate". In real democracies across Europe and Canada, he'd be the equivalent of FAUX News.

tweety was just upset cuz thats the first attractive woman he has had on his show he wasnt able to flirt with...the man is in dire need of a blow job

and our entire country is pussified....led by the pussified congress

have you guys ever watched the debates on the floor of parliament? those guys are vicious....but you dont hear a country getting in an uproar about it

and i think stark did choose his words wisely, as they came a day after the sociopath in chief chuckled about world war 3

Bush apologist up and down Matthews. He's supposed to be dodging the right wing tool label instead he picks up the shovel and keeps digging.

Her main problem with this "Right wing tool" comment was she backed down after saying it.

She should have dug in -- explained how the story was being used by the right-wing and how Matthews doesn't help clarify this problem.

She pissed off Chrisy and he threw a hissy.

Peter Stark has balls. He should never say I'm sorry.......and Pelosi should shut the fuck up.

jackjett

I cannot express the many ways in which Stephanie Miller is ONE HOT MAMA!!!

A little make-up sex in the green room after the show should straighten everything out.

What did Pelosi say about Stark's comments?

I think most tools need to be sharp. Matthews is a little too dull to be a tool.

Shared Humanity @ 21:

I think most tools need to be sharp. Matthews is a little too dull to be a tool.

You use the dull ones for bludgeoning.

well, she HAD to say she was kidding... just to be "nice"...
but it didn't help... she probably won't be back on tweety's show...
too bad...

MaxtheDog @ 12:

I saw this. I actually felt bad for Tweety. You don't go to someone's house, on their invitation, and then piss on their carpet. Is she right? Absloutely. But she shouldn't have said it on his show.

I think most tools need to be sharp. Matthews is a little too dull to be a tool.

Bullshit, this idiot has been an apologist for the war criminals in this government for 4 years. He deserves every bit of criticism he gets.

Matthews looked shocked. I seriously doubt he'll have Stephanie on his show ever again.

she was so right though, at least until she said she was just kidding.

curtilingus @ 22:

Shared Humanity @ 21:

I think most tools need to be sharp. Matthews is a little too dull to be a tool.

You use the dull ones for bludgeoning.

I think you may be on to something. Listening to Matthews question people is a little like be bludgeoned.

Why isn't that fat pasty chickenhawk right winger in Iraq?

If she hadn't said it on his show he'd never have heard it. Tweety needed to have someone tell him. You could tell by how stunned he was that he thinks he's not. Truth hurts sometimes.

these guys' outrage meters are way out of whack.

But Tweety said he OPPOSED the Iraq War!!

2003:

MATTHEWS: What's the importance of the president's amazing display of leadership tonight?

[...]

MATTHEWS: What do you make of the actual visual that people will see on TV and probably, as you know, as well as I, will remember a lot longer than words spoken tonight? And that's the president looking very much like a jet, you know, a high-flying jet star. A guy who is a jet pilot. Has been in the past when he was younger, obviously. What does that image mean to the American people, a guy who can actually get into a supersonic plane and actually fly in an unpressurized cabin like an actual jet pilot?

[...]

MATTHEWS: Do you think this role, and I want to talk politically [...], the president deserves everything he's doing tonight in terms of his leadership. He won the war. He was an effective commander. Everybody recognizes that, I believe, except a few critics. Do you think he is defining the office of the presidency, at least for this time, as basically that of commander in chief? That [...] if you're going to run against him, you'd better be ready to take [that] away from him.

MaxtheDog @ 12:

I saw this. I actually felt bad for Tweety. You don't go to someone's house, on their invitation, and then piss on their carpet. Is she right? Absloutely. But she shouldn't have said it on his show.

Single dumbest thing I've read today.

What a pathetic "debate," as "led" by Matthews. Stephanie is the only one who managed to rise above the pretend issue at hand (Pete Stark's poor word choice) and elevate the "debate" to the real issue, that is, to spend TV "debate" time discussing inanities like this. Good for her.

And btw, did Cheney get cesured when he took the Senate floor to a new low and told a senator to "F*ck off."?! What a hypocrite, that Kevin. Somebody send him an e-mail to suggest he try to get formal censure proceedings going against Cheney first. When he's all finished with that important project, which will vindicate his hypocrisy while exposing him as a lightweight (pun intended), then he can get right on to Stark's censure.

Buy nice lady big drink.

I gave up on Chrissy a long time ago, during his fuckfest with Coulter. People still watch him?
And WHY does Tucker still breathe?

Stark should be censured?!?! WTF? For what? Who was that nutcase? They didn't even censure that evil, horrible MoveOn.org, but Stark needs to be censured? I'm completely dumbfounded by that.

Yeah, I think her remark was tongue-in-cheek.

After all, Matthews isn't a right wing tool. He's a corporate whore.

....Like Hillary.

but he is a right wing tool. more truth spoken publically.

chris tool: "the democrat voters.."

big fat guy: "Yes it is, at a time of war"
reality: They start the war then say you can't blau blau this or blau blau that because we're at war.

chris tool: "I don't think he's ever hurt a person in his life"
all those ppl executed in texas: What about us?

he he

who was that fat ass bastard from the reichwing? the only war he obviously served in was at the all you can eat buffets when they ran out with him as a patron. god, what is it with the gop and turning into obscene fat bastards after they get into office?

Stephanie's mistake was in the wording. Chris is a "tool of the right wing." Not a "right wing tool." That would be Hannity, Limbaugh and the rest of the pukers.

"The Democrats are at 11%"??? No congress is at 11% because the Republicans are obstructing the congress from doing what the people want done.

"Censure him. Sure. Why not?" Yeah, way to offer a cogent argument, jackass!

Stephanie Miller apologized to Chris Matthews. What a woose! Every Democrat apologizes to the right wing. Here is yet another example.

I'm a little disappointed in this clip. She blinks too much and giggles a lot when she's nervous- like she's trying to soften the blow. She should just drill him right between the eyes, stare him down, and make no apologies. Hell, I'd even taunt him a little bit, "What's the matter Chris? Did I hurt your little feelings? Are you going to cry a little bit for me...?"

Enough with calling Chris Mathews a right winger already. Is he a "tool"? You bet. He's not the brightest bulb out there either, but look at the guests he praises and the opinions he gives on his show. He tends to be left of center. I'm all for calling Mathews out on his ridiculousness, but the man is not a right winger. I feel dirty saying that since I'm not a fan of him or his style.

motorfingaz @ 27:

Why isn't that fat pasty chickenhawk right winger in Iraq?

My guess is, he doesn't fit.

The Reglickends, azzmunchies all the way.

Greg @ 44:

Enough with calling Chris Mathews a right winger already. Is he a "tool"? You bet. He's not the brightest bulb out there either, but look at the guests he praises and the opinions he gives on his show. He tends to be left of center. I'm all for calling Mathews out on his ridiculousness, but the man is not a right winger. I feel dirty saying that since I'm not a fan of him or his style.

Have you seen him with Tom Delay?

Don't you see? This is how to play the game.

The reason the "liberal media" are afraid to tell it like it is, is because they're afraid of being called "liberal" (as if that's really an epithet, but that's another story). Soooooo, if people like Stephanie start calling more of these folks, like Matthews, "right wing tools" (which, yes, clearly did hurt him deeply, they will be scared of that moniker and will move back towards the left. This clip, to me, is clear indication of that notion.

Jim @ 11:

Last time I checked, drunk drivers didn't "mean" to kill anyone. Yet they're still prosecuted for vehicular homicide.

When did Bush's "intentions" excuse his disaster? What type of tortured logic is that, Tweety, you right wing tool?

The idea that George W. Bush, America's Greatest Conservative President

didn't intend to advance the cause of Fascism in this country is just as wrong as saying his family did not support Hitler in WWII.

Having seen this and Tweety's appearance on The Daily Show I conclude that this fat fuck would have been much better off if he'd read him some Mark Twain:

It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

Further, I believe it's a disservice to the man and his family to label him a 'tool'....

He ain't smart enough for that.

See the look on Matthews's face when Miller called him a tool? You can hear his balls scrunching. Typical bully, loves slapping people around but can't take it from Jon Stewart or Stephanie Miller. Ya ARE a right wing tool, Blanche. Ya ARE a tool! And someone get Stephanie Miller a sandwich STAT. She looks very hungry.

Greg @ 44:

Enough with calling Chris Mathews a right winger already. Is he a "tool"? You bet. He's not the brightest bulb out there either, but look at the guests he praises and the opinions he gives on his show. He tends to be left of center. I'm all for calling Mathews out on his ridiculousness, but the man is not a right winger. I feel dirty saying that since I'm not a fan of him or his style.

Considering that he drools over Fred Thompson, Mitt Romney, Rudy & practically blows Tom Delay whenever he's on the show, if he's not a right winger, then he's one hell of an actor!

The more Stephanie Miller spoke, the more I fell in love with her, but I cringed when she called Matthews a right wing tool. Three or four years ago, I might have given her a "hell yeah" on that one, but Matthews has really started swinging hard against the right as of late. That doesn't mean he still can't be exasperating at times, but it is hard to label him as any sort of ideologue these days.
Stephanie Miller was really good though, at playing the game using the right winger's own playbook, which we need more of, IMO.

abarts @ 47:

Greg @ 44:

Enough with calling Chris Mathews a right winger already. Is he a "tool"? You bet. He's not the brightest bulb out there either, but look at the guests he praises and the opinions he gives on his show. He tends to be left of center. I'm all for calling Mathews out on his ridiculousness, but the man is not a right winger. I feel dirty saying that since I'm not a fan of him or his style.

Have you seen him with Tom Delay?

Yep. I also remember him during the "Clenis" years. He gets hero worship for any successful politician regardless of their beliefs, and is one of the worst for picking up manufactured media buzz. That doesn't come from him working an agenda like Rush or any of the Fox guys so much as from his own fopishness.

That's why he sat there with his mouth open for so long. He's an idiot (don't think I'm defending him here), but he's not right wing.

curtilingus @ 9:

OK Matthews if Bush doesn't intentionally kill Americans, can we at least get him for involuntary manslaughter?

Or Negligent Homicide?

IMHO, we apologize WAY TOO FUCKING MUCH!

We should be calling out all these assholes Dem or Rep on their bullshit, and we should be calling them out in the language of the people.

Tool is completely appropriate in this context and defines Tweety to a "T".

Stephanie Miller did fine (except for apologizing - never apologize to the right wing), but should have countered the buffet-buffoon's comment about censuring Stark with a comment that the person really deserving of censure is Mitch McConnell for the crap he pulled setting up a 12 year old kid for death threats. Never defend with the Repugs. Always attack.

Always. Attack.

tweety isn't a tool of the right wing, but he did look bad when miller called him that. Think about it. If you called someone like Keith Olberman a tool of the right wing, he'd have a little chuckle and move on. If you called O'Reilly a tool of the right wing, he would have (and has had) a hissy fit because that's what he is, and it's the words that are true that hurt the most.

Chris Mathews probably went home tonight and stared at the mirror and asked himself "I'm a really just a tool?"

He looked entirely too defensive.

Why did she back down. Of course he is a tool. How many of these fake offenses do they kiss up to? What an ass.

GonzoD @ 51:

Greg @ 44:

Enough with calling Chris Mathews a right winger already. Is he a "tool"? You bet. He's not the brightest bulb out there either, but look at the guests he praises and the opinions he gives on his show. He tends to be left of center. I'm all for calling Mathews out on his ridiculousness, but the man is not a right winger. I feel dirty saying that since I'm not a fan of him or his style.

Considering that he drools over Fred Thompson, Mitt Romney, Rudy & practically blows Tom Delay whenever he's on the show, if he's not a right winger, then he's one hell of an actor!

Jim Webb gets the same treatment. He responds to guests who take strong positions and stick by them. You could write a pretty thick book trying to figure out what's going on in Mathew's head.

abarts @ 34:

I gave up on Chrissy a long time ago, during his fuckfest with Coulter. People still watch him?
And WHY does Tucker still breathe?

Tucker breathes? I wondered what that hissing was.

HE IS A RIGHT WING PLANT!

bout damn time.
tweety can be tough and truthfull when he wants to be, but his corporate masters sign the checks, so there is not really much he can do if he wants to keep his job
that's still no excuse
pwned

I don't think Mathew's is a right-winger, but he certainly IS being used by the right-wing, or allows himself to be used, by jumping on to their lead on talking points.

Wow. Stephanie Miller is HOT!

...I forgot what I was going to write.

As Jane at FDL and others have pointed out, never play into right wing talking points. Turn, spin and attack. "Perhaps Rep Stark perhaps chose his words poorly, but his point is there. George Bush DOES seem to snicker a great deal for a President in time of war and when discussing matters of dire import..." Then get the visuals of Bush hilariously searching for WMDs at the press dinner. And show that again and again and again.

People are getting their heads blown off. W remains amused. Whether they are getting their blown off FOR his amusement is beside the point...

So where's the outrage by the Corporate Media talking heads over Mitch McConnel's stooges engineering a smear campaign against a twelve year old boy and his family?

Anyone that has ever witnessed Matthews interviewing Delay or Boehner knows how he fawns over the rightwing. Sometimes, over the War, he can ask good questions, but by and large he wants to be loved so badly, that he panders to these rightwing guys and sits there as they spew lie after lie. He had it coming. Most of them have it coming. Today's media deserves to be ashamed and called on their pathetic performance. It must kill Matthews that Olbermann's integrity and honest journalism paid off so handsomely.

I wish she hadn't gotten cold feet and said she was kidding. But anyway good for her for speaking her mind and many others' to that tool. Chris Matthews is a right wing tool he was cheerleading for this war from the very beginning right up until just recently when the American public began turning against it then so did he. What a thin skinned puss he is.

C'mon, Chris Mathews is a corporate stooge. His outrage and his positions are manufactured. He knows his job is to toss right wingers softballs and beat up on Liberals while assuming the role of the "Liberal Media." It's all a carefully constructed act. Matthews gets to be part of the elite as long as he plays their game, it's the same with the rest of them.

The show is named "Hardball", which means Chris gets to fire high hard ones to his heart's content. However when someone sends some chin music back at HIM, boo-hooo, waaaaahhh, poor Chris' feelings are hurt!

By the way, the reason Stephanie's words cut so deeply -- and you can see him bleed visibly in this clip for minutes afterward -- is because they contain so much more than a grain of TRUTH. Had her statement been totally without merit, Chris would have looked puzzled, chuckled, and that would have been the end of it.

Poor, poor, tweety....he just got bitched slap!

There was a reason that Chris Matthews filled in as guest host for Rush Limbaugh several years back. Rush Limbaugh doesn't have liberals guest host his show. He brought Matthews on that day to attack then president Bill Clinton and that's exactly what he did. FRICKIN' TOOL THEN, FRICKIN' TOOL NOW!

Stephanie Miller ends up looking pretty shrill, obtuse, and uninformed. And of course Matthews is shocked. A right wing tool? That's ridiculous. You invite someone to get airtime on your show and then they blindside you like that? And he had a point...it's disingenuous to get invited on because you want to represent a point of view about Peter Stark and then start calling everyone an idiot for talking about Peter Stark. I'm glad Matthews called her out on it.

Matthews has achieved a miracle in political media commentary. Conservatives call him a left wing shill for MSNBC. Progressives call him a reich wing tool.

As I recall, just a couple of weeks ago Matthews went on The Daily Show to flog his book, "Life's A Campaign".

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Chris_Matthews_to_Jon_Stewart_This_1003.html

In the ensuing interview (and it would seem in the book itself, not that I'm gonna read it anytime soon) Matthews apparently lays out a quasi-philosophy of life that boils down to "Decide what it is you want, then say whatever you need to say, do whatever you need to do, to get it".

Matthews doesn't really have any strong personal social or political values other than whatever serves his immediate purpose. He respects power and wealth... that seems to be the extent of it, and in that he does resemble a lot of right wing thinking. This explains his constant spinning like a weather vane depending on which way the wind happens toHe wanders aimlessly along the political landscape in no-man's land.

The amazing thing is that he could feel hurt when somebody who actually has a stance calls him a "tool", because his sycophantic shallow views leave him open to exactly that sort of criticism.

She should have stuck to her guns-he is a wing nut tool.
Matthews has had it too easy for tooooooooo long.
Pick a side Chris or quit yer whinin'.

Stark deserves the Medal of Freedom. That is, of course, until it was debased by the recipients id'd by Bush

Dr. Matt @ 71:

Poor, poor, tweety....he just got bitched slap!

Um, I'm thinking you mean "bitch slapped."

Actually, I'm glad to see several here are acknowledging that this guy's human; he was hurt, yes, and that's a good thing for his sake. He doesn't want to be a right winger, and there are so many times his clips are shown here because either through his guests, or yes, on his own, a point is made with which most of us agree.

O'Reilly would just attack back, and show no feelings, because he is totally self-righteous and doesn't really give a crap about being viewed as impartial.

I don't think it serves us on the left to be as mean as, and to dish out ad hominem attacks as often as the right do.

Cythraul @ 31:

MaxtheDog @ 12:

I saw this. I actually felt bad for Tweety. You don't go to someone's house, on their invitation, and then piss on their carpet. Is she right? Absloutely. But she shouldn't have said it on his show.

Single dumbest thing I've read today.

Damned straight, Cythraul!

MaxtheDog- Didjya feel the same when Jon Stewart let Tucker Carlson have it- with both barrels, a machete and the old steel-tipped, to boot- on Tucker's own "Crossfire". How 'bout when Colbert scorched both Bushco and the Washington press corps at the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner?

If ya ask me, the only thing that disappoints about Steph's comments is that she back-tracked at all.

TJS@73

Stephanie Miller ends up looking pretty shrill, obtuse, and uninformed. And of course Matthews is shocked. A right wing tool? That’s ridiculous. You invite someone to get airtime on your show and then they blindside you like that? And he had a point…it’s disingenuous to get invited on because you want to represent a point of view about Peter Stark and then start calling everyone an idiot for talking about Peter Stark. I’m glad Matthews called her out on it.

Heh, a right wing extremist troll calling someone else shrill. That's projection if I ever did see it. Take your temper tantrum back to freeperland.

Miller has feet of clay ... too bad.

I didn't know Stephanie Miller was so cute. She looks smokin hot.

Aw, poor Chris. He just couldn't take the heat.

There's a historical trait in journalism to avoid self reflection, but if you bring up how bad journalists are doing they're going to do everything they can to humiliate you.

for someone who "was against the war from the beginning"...Tweety sure as hell beat the shit out of the drums for war.......

She should of stuck to it. It's the truth and it was only stunning in that it is a moment of pure truth. That is what is remarkable, that Matthews is so stunned at actually being called out for what he is.

She made herself look weak by nervously backing away from it. She should of stuck to her guns and said that, maybe it came out harsh, but it's the truth nonetheless. Matthews is extremely biased in favor of right-wingers and typically regurgitates right-wing talking points and their "conventional" wisdom.

oh ...I loved the look on Tweety's face.....wha,wha,what?.........that was priceless...

Matthews may be a bit controversial but I'd rather watch him than "Blitzer" who is even more controversial. Sure he's a tool, they all are but mainly to hidden corporate agendas that are right wing by definition, even while pretending to be "left wing" or "liberal". The power of these corporate giants is in fooling the sheeple to believe their polls, warmongering, etc. by being the kind, "liberal" daddy's to us all, seeing this deception is the first step living in the reality based world.

curtilingus @ 9:

OK Matthews if Bush doesn't intentionally kill Americans, can we at least get him for involuntary manslaughter?

conspiracy to commit or depraved indifference.....I'd go with one of those.

Congressman Stark owes NO APOLOGIES for telling the truth.

He deserves the Medal of Freedom.
*

Wonder what Matthews will do if Hillary wins ? He just won't beable to accept it. He has done everything possible to destroy her image , like he did with Howard Dean ,but maybe his strategy won't work with her. His life will be over with one of the Clintons in the White House. Also, I'm sure she will never give him an interview ....I wonder why !

Boo hoo hoo! A big bad Liberal said something mean about their precious supreme leader so the wingnuts and Corporate Media hacks whine and cry about it like infant bullies. They can dish it out but they can't take it.

Right winger: You're a traitor and a baby killer!

Liberal: Thanks for proving what an idiot you are.

Right winger: Waaah! Mr. Corporate Media Hack, he called me a mean name. Make a big stink about it right now or I'll have a temper tantrum.

Corporate Media Hack: As good as done my precious child. Now loosen media ownership regulations for my paymasters.

Right winger: You got a deal Mr. Corporate Media Hack.

It isn't exactly "constructive" to appear on someone's show, presumably take money for doing so and then start calling that person names. Besides, Matthews is hardly right-wing. Trust me--I know right-wing when I see it. I live in the Deep South and the people here truly ARE.

You can agree or not agree, but she probably won't be invited back on so I guess she has lost the ability to speak to that audience. Helpful? Constructive? Childish? Stupid?

You decide.

ronnyg @ 78:

Dr. Matt @ 71:

Poor, poor, tweety....he just got bitched slap!

Um, I'm thinking you mean "bitch slapped."

Actually, I'm glad to see several here are acknowledging that this guy's human; he was hurt, yes, and that's a good thing for his sake. He doesn't want to be a right winger, and there are so many times his clips are shown here because either through his guests, or yes, on his own, a point is made with which most of us agree.

O'Reilly would just attack back, and show no feelings, because he is totally self-righteous and doesn't really give a crap about being viewed as impartial.

I don't think it serves us on the left to be as mean as, and to dish out ad hominem attacks as often as the right do.

You make a good point, in that occasionally Matthews breaks the company line. But this is showcased on C&L because it is so remarkable. If you watch him regularly, you'll find that he is typically supporting right wing points.

He's a very poor excuse for a journalist. He pretends to be balanced and fair. But his right-wing biases come out regularly. It really does seem as he doesn't realise it, but it is the truth nonetheless. I really wish Miller had stuck by her comment. It was brutally truthful no doubt. But truthful it remains and shouldn't be backed away from.

I think even Stephanie was surprised.
Chris was sitting there without any recovery material.

Okay, I'll be the the one to coin it then:

TWEETY THE TOOL

That's the oddball moniker for Tweety of Hardball.

Yes Tweety.. you ARE a right wing TOOL (FOOL TOO).

Speaking truth to bullshit: not very effective. Bullshit doesn't realise it's bullshit.

I love her babe-itude and her kickasshood. Not perfect, us libs are still learning the tv game, we're still too nice in the face of fascisti enablers. Plus (sexism alert) it's the nature of us gals to want to comfort poor widdle hurt children who've just been told off, even when it's we who tell them off and it's richly deserved.

DenGA @ 92:

It isn't exactly "constructive" to appear on someone's show, presumably take money for doing so and then start calling that person names. Besides, Matthews is hardly right-wing. Trust me--I know right-wing when I see it. I live in the Deep South and the people here truly ARE.

You can agree or not agree, but she probably won't be invited back on so I guess she has lost the ability to speak to that audience. Helpful? Constructive? Childish? Stupid?

You decide.

What's "constructive" about maintaining decorum when dealing with people ('wingers) who have made it clear that the first rule is: there are no rules?
Christy got fed a dose of his own and, typically, didn't like it.

"I don't think President Bush is an evil guy at all. In fact, I don't think!"

ok, I'll give that last one to Tweety, he said he doesn't think Bush wanted to hurt an American, I would say that is as true as the statement that Bush didn't care if he did or didn't hurt Americans or anyone else for that matter.

And yes, Chris is a right wing tool.

RickinSF@99
What’s “constructive” about maintaining decorum when dealing with people (’wingers) who have made it clear that the first rule is: there are no rules?
Christy got fed a dose of his own and, typically, didn’t like it.

Pay no mind to the concern trolls.

Sorry, isn't this the President who, when he was asked about American soldiers being killed so famously said, "BRING IT ON."

Looks like Pete Stark just did bring it on. I'm sorry the President can't take it, but he did ask for it.

Snowball @ 102:

RickinSF@99
What’s “constructive” about maintaining decorum when dealing with people (’wingers) who have made it clear that the first rule is: there are no rules?
Christy got fed a dose of his own and, typically, didn’t like it.

Pay no mind to the concern trolls.

Y'know, I wondered about that.
Thanks.

Oh, and this an actual FUCKING ARGUMENT, in AMERICA, over whether a FORMAL APOLOGY should be made for speaking words CRITICIZING A PRESIDENT.

Excuse me, Chris, but as I recall, the Dixie Chicks fucking WON on every level.

Jesus, you tired hack. Sorry to see your own chimpy boycrush codpiece deflated, but sometimes Mama(s) have to administer tough love.

anonymous @ 103:

Sorry, isn't this the President who, when he was asked about American soldiers being killed so famously said, "BRING IT ON."

Looks like Pete Stark just did bring it on. I'm sorry the President can't take it, but he did ask for it.

W's "bring it on" statement smacks of the machismo of a man who has never even been in a fist fight.

The biggest problem in this country today is how "news" is presented to the American public. Issues affecting how we live take a back seat to endless drivel such as Hillary's cackle, Fred's manly oder, and all things Brittney. The lack of real info presented today is downright criminal and every "news" host should be called on it. Thanks Steph! People like you give me hope. We should totally hang out sometime.

Goldwater/Miller "08

lol matthews was completely stunned. it's too bad stephanie miller backed away, because she was pretty much right. just because every once in awhile matthews acts all indignant against the war and neocons doesn't mean that he ISN'T a right-wing tool, and it doesn't balance out the fact that he promotes conservative talking points and framing almost on a daily basis. In fact, earlier in the week he remarked to someone about the 'echo chamber' effect and that he was surprised how at times he is a part of it.. yeah, as if he didn't know that after more than a decade in broadcasting. Basically, he knows he's being used and sometimes tries to make up for it with an anti-conservative rant, but he always tilts back to right of center afterwards. That's how it is, and that's how it always will be.

Chris Matthews: "blahblahblahblahblah-head-whip-Right wing tool? blah blah blahblahblahblahblah you did call me a right wing tool,blablahblahblahblahblahblahright wing tool lblahblah..."

I bet he doesn't recover from this anytime soon. It will inform his blather for a while. And consider that Stefanie is only at about 60% power. Imagine if she'd been feeling better.

Matthews is the bellweather of the beltway.
Use him to mark how off the beltway is from our farms & families.
Bill Miller's kid, like that Goldwater girl, are today's voter.

Tweety is nothing but an OPPORTUNIST. He goes after whatever the popular belief at the time is. He will sell his body to stay on TV. If the Dems win in 08, watch Tweety start acting like a flaming liberal. He's a bullshitter and a creep. His journalistic abilities compare to the quality of goods and services purchased at Wallmart!!! Not to mention I think he has ADD, and a split personality! He's a very confused man.

Stephanie was great. And Chris was too busy being a pussy than answering her charge that they keep attacking the remarks against the war and not the war. Stephanie has a great radio show, lots of intelligent analysis mixed with farts. Not kidding, it's great. News with laughs.
Apparently, Kevin FattyPigFatty, Miller doesn't understand the way the votes work in Congress.

Dahgrostab'ph-r-i @ 101:

ok, I'll give that last one to Tweety, he said he doesn't think Bush wanted to hurt an American, I would say that is as true as the statement that Bush didn't care if he did or didn't hurt Americans or anyone else for that matter.

And yes, Chris is a right wing tool.

To paraphrase Kanye West, George Bush doesn't care about the American people. That much is obvious.

And again, (and similarly) Matthews doesn't espouse a strong political or social view per se, he's an opportunist entralled with power and wealth.

On her radio show this morning they were discussing whether Rep. Stark went too far in his wording.

When the POSCIT (Piece-of-Shit Commander-in-Thief) gives his trademark smirk and and deranged chuckle as he declares himself "the decider", I think it is clear that sending troops into harm's way, while knowing he was able to get himself out of harm's way when the situation was reversed, IS for his own amusement.

Rep. Stark has NOTHING to apologize for! I am convinced (and I say this with all seriousness) that the upper ranks of the GOP up to and including Commander Codpiece are gathering a collection of torture porn that would make a normal person's head explode. Just as the Meese Report (Attorney General's Commission on Pornography) was likely to be pretty much an excuse for good ol' Ed (and Ed's pals) to get his hands on (legally) some of the sickest, most depraved porn available (bet he took TONS of work home with him!), the degradations done to "enemy combatants" and others while Smirky McDipshit pretends to be fighting (while OTHERS do the dying) for TRUTH, JUSTICE, and the AMERICAN WAY *is* for his own fucking amusement!

If only there was a way to negotiate a peace whereby Shrub was turned over for a taste of his own medicine. Maybe then the protections of the Geneva Conventions wouldn't seem so quaint.

Well, Tweety & Timmeh do make the case for Walter's loss '84.
These guys read Shum's book before he wrote it.
(Er, they wrote the book).

[Speaking of tools, do you think you'll be allowed to post here ever again, Ian? Not bloody likely. But very appropriate for you to attempt to spread your lies on this particular thread-Sitemonitor]

Chris
Does it make any difference to the people that have died if bush wanted to kill them or not?
They are still dead! Any caring person, any person that had any feeling would not have told so many lies, made up so many facts, or left so many things out.
Everything that bush and the republicans have done in the past seven years shown that they have no concern for human life, be it American or Iraqi.
I beg you show me one thing that they have done since 2000 that makes you think that bush and his party care one iota for the lives lost?
Not one apology, not one sign of remorse.
These are ruthless people in our government and if people in the media don't start telling the truth, instead of the twisted republican party line then they will soon find themselves as irrelevant as the republican party will be in the not so distant future.

Greg @ 53
I also remember him during the "Clenis" years. He gets hero worship for any successful politician regardless of their beliefs, and is one of the worst for picking up manufactured media buzz. That doesn't come from him working an agenda like Rush or any of the Fox guys so much as from his own fopishness.

That's why he sat there with his mouth open for so long. He's an idiot (don't think I'm defending him here), but he's not right wing.
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you know greg, you might be on to something there. he's turned on by whoever is in his scope at the time. just like he flirts up male politicians to an eyebrow arching degree AND makes some strange comments to women on as well.
maybe the guy is AC/DC on everything

Kudos to Stephanie for always speaking truth to power. Matthews can't go an hour without an on air sex fantasy about Rudy, Thompson, Mitt and Mccain

Matthews is doing a balancing act. It has to do with what's best for his paycheck, not about what's best for America. That's the problem with all of the media tools. Greed rules ! ! !

Keith Gabryelski @ 16:

Her main problem with this "Right wing tool" comment was she backed down after saying it.

She should have dug in -- explained how the story was being used by the right-wing and how Matthews doesn't help clarify this problem.

Well said. The problem with Miller and her radio program is that it comes across as a comedy show and by doing that conservatives and people in general are less likely to take what she says seriously. Liberals have a difficult enough time appearing on television the way it is and it doesn't help when people like Miller try to soften the impact of their statements. All liberals have to do is speak the truth yet so many of them seem hesitant about getting their message across to the general public without apologizing for what they have to say.

CNN (Conservative News Network) had an online poll up asking if Stark should apologize for his remarks.
91% no
9% yes

TJS @ 73:

Stephanie Miller ends up looking pretty shrill, obtuse, and uninformed. And of course Matthews is shocked. A right wing tool? That's ridiculous. You invite someone to get airtime on your show and then they blindside you like that? And he had a point...it's disingenuous to get invited on because you want to represent a point of view about Peter Stark and then start calling everyone an idiot for talking about Peter Stark. I'm glad Matthews called her out on it.

you are just pissed cuz you know that steph would never give you the time of day either

usually when guests are booked, they are not told...."you must only speak on the subject at hand"

miller did speak on it...she said it was bullshit

but how about your wingnut spokesman radio hack turd....same fucking lying talking points

steph may be shrill....he was just fat and stupid

Tom (Not Tom) @ 2:

Who the hell is Kevin Miller, and how did they pry him away from the all-you-can-eat luncheon at Sizzler?

Bravo. You took the words right out of my mouth.

The funniest part was near the end of the show. Chris accidentally called another female guest "Stephanie". He was _still_ thinking about Miller! HA! I'll bet Matthews makes his wife wear a Stephanie Miller wig tonight.

Chris Mathews is a frikkin tool.

xoites defends Constitution @ 100:

"I don't think President Bush is an evil guy at all. In fact, I don't think!"

Well, actually he IS evil, the coarse vulgar sociopathic type of evil. His doppelganger VP is the earthbound embodiment of every other kind of malevolent of evil. Tweety is a right wing tool because he is in their box. He cheerleads for bush's package on the flight deck of an aircraft carrie, voted for him twice, ok so he is against the war...finally. He trumpets rudy at every possible opportunity, bashes Hillary with every opportunity. I'm sure both Tip O' Neil and Pat Moynahan are spinning in their graves looking at tweety and russert. Tools of the right wing...

Did Tweety get his widdle feewings huwt? Did a puddy tat get all mean to him?

Awwww! Poor Tweety!

On her radio show this morning, they were discussing whether Rep. Stark went too far with his wording.

When the POSCIT (Piece-of-Shit Commander-in-Thief) gives his trademark smirk and and deranged chuckle when he declares himself "the decider", I think it is clear that sending troops into harm's way, while knowing he was able to get himself out of harm's way when the situation was reversed, IS for his own amusement.

Rep. Stark has NOTHING to apologize for! I am convinced (and I say this with all seriousness) that the upper ranks of the GOP up to and including Commander Codpiece are gathering a collection of torture porn that would make a normal person's head explode. Just as the Meese Report (Attorney General's Commission on Pornography) was likely to be pretty much an excuse for good ol' Ed (and Ed's pals) to get his hands on (legally) some of the sickest, most depraved porn available (bet he took TONS of work home with him!), the degradations done to "enemy combatants" and others while Smirky McDipshit pretends to be fighting (while OTHERS do the dying) for TRUTH, JUSTICE, and the AMERICAN WAY *is* for his own fucking amusement!

If only there was a way to negotiate a peace whereby Shrub was turned over for a taste of his own medicine. Maybe then the protections of the Geneva Conventions wouldn't seem so quaint.

Sharkbabe @ 98:

I love her babe-itude and her kickasshood. Not perfect, us libs are still learning the tv game, we're still too nice in the face of fascisti enablers. Plus (sexism alert) it's the nature of us gals to want to comfort poor widdle hurt children who've just been told off, even when it's we who tell them off and it's richly deserved.

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i so agree with you. also, i don't know your age but you sound so much like my daughter.

Tom (Not Tom) @ 2:

Who the hell is Kevin Miller, and how did they pry him away from the all-you-can-eat luncheon at Sizzler?

I think he is Denny Hastert's buffet coach.

Comedy Freakin Gold@!

Oh,and Steph...

You are a sweetieand very funny, you and the mooks were, not wrong this morning, but not right. Pete shouldn't have to back down and I know you didn't say THAT, but dammit they deserved a bust in the chops, and Pete did it. You probably won't be back on hardball, but whatthefuck you called it too. Don't be sorry. The saying goes, 'You lay with dogs you get their fleas' you usually pick them well.

Many of us are glad you are there every morning.
Thank you

kim out

godzthor1 @ 124:

The funniest part was near the end of the show. Chris accidentally called another female guest "Stephanie". He was _still_ thinking about Miller! HA! I'll bet Matthews makes his wife wear a Stephanie Miller wig tonight.

assoblutely.

that totally cracked me up too.

motorfingaz @ 27:

Why isn't that fat pasty chickenhawk right winger in Iraq?

They don't have enough materials to fit him with body armor?

Lame joke... sorry... repub tactics rubbing off...

On Stephanie: when I hear people complain about her not being serious enough it reminds me of some of the whining and complaining about AAR's Morning Sedition being the same which prompted Marc Maron to open the show with the line "progressive utopians w/ no sense of humor." Sure, I listen to shows like Democracy Now for the meat and potatoes news but you'd hang yourself with just that. We are rightly outraged and so is she, but she deals with it with humor. I sometimes wonder if Vonnegut was still alive some folks who I'm in full agree with but are the quintessential stick-up-the-butt-liberals would be complaining about the fact he "covered bitter pills with candy."

As for shrill, sorry but I care about the tone if the words are true.

On Matthews: he's offended at Mamma? Funny he did get offended when Bat Shit Zell kirked out on him and called him out for a frikken duel. He didn't get pissy then and continued talking to the guy.

We've never seen media complicity like this before. Ever. Anyone who voted for Bush should be hung for treason.

Every Liberal who appears on the Corporate Media should call them out on it. Republicans are never ever shy about blasting what they misleadingly call "The Liberal Media" on TV and the Corporate Media hacks never call them on it or protest. It's called "working the ref." The Corporate Media encourage it from the right and even feed on it. Just watch how "media critic" Howard Kurtz (married to a Republican activist) constantly asks questions like: "Is the media too Liberal?" When the media frames themselves that way, they can propel right wing propaganda while using the myth that they are Liberal. Remember, these talking heads are all working for mega corporations that have vested financial interests in removing government regulations on how many outlets they can own in any area. The Corporate Media is not non-biased, as corporations they have self interest in who governs the country and dominates the political arena. Who ever heard of a Liberal corporation? It makes no sense. Just follow what is going on at the FCC right now. Remember, these corporations are making billions using public property, the broadcast spectrum, for nothing. The last thing they want is some Liberals representing the democratic will of the people gaining power, insisting on corporations returning the favor of using our property for profit to serve the public interest and limiting how many media outlets they can control.

Attacking an argument for the manner in which it is made is an invalid argumentative technique called a logical fallacy. Instead of countering the substance of an argument, the person who employs this technique is trying to distract from the substance of the argument.

OxyCon @ 52:

The more Stephanie Miller spoke, the more I fell in love with her, but I cringed when she called Matthews a right wing tool. Three or four years ago, I might have given her a "hell yeah" on that one, but Matthews has really started swinging hard against the right as of late. That doesn't mean he still can't be exasperating at times, but it is hard to label him as any sort of ideologue these days.
Stephanie Miller was really good though, at playing the game using the right winger's own playbook, which we need more of, IMO.

Yea, good point, Matthews is far from a 'right wing tool', if he were I would have never heard him sound so convincing in the weeks before the 2006 election in speaking out against the GOP.

I dont think anyone should be completely partisan in the media if acting as a moderator because they will lose much of their audience. Like it or not its a business and ratings is king. At times he can sound brilliant, at others, he sounds like a right wing tool

IdahoMoe @ 130:

Tom (Not Tom) @ 2:

Who the hell is Kevin Miller, and how did they pry him away from the all-you-can-eat luncheon at Sizzler?

I think he is Denny Hastert's buffet coach.

Best Comment! Well, in my opinion anyway.....

Listen I think you need to correct the transcript Stephanie is saying, 'Chris yer a right wing FOOL!.'

Which is exactly what he is. It's hard to see just how stupid Tweety is when he's all covered up on his show but the Daily Show outed him on that big time. Tweety is just
a fat stupid prick that other, probably fat, stupid pricks pay so much money he actually thinks he knows something. He was in over his head and drowning against Stewart.

At one point he just sat there mouth open like a big ol' frog, mind blank, speechless. That was it for me. I have no interest in what he thinks as he's....well, not very good.....

At thinking.

myshadow @ 126:

xoites defends Constitution @ 100:

"I don't think President Bush is an evil guy at all. In fact, I don't think!"

Well, actually he IS evil, the coarse vulgar sociopathic type of evil. His doppelganger VP is the earthbound embodiment of every other kind of malevolent of evil. Tweety is a right wing tool because he is in their box. He cheerleads for bush's package on the flight deck of an aircraft carrie, voted for him twice, ok so he is against the war...finally. He trumpets rudy at every possible opportunity, bashes Hillary with every opportunity. I'm sure both Tip O' Neil and Pat Moynahan are spinning in their graves looking at tweety and russert. Tools of the right wing...

I friggin' know he's evil, ok? I was (mis)quoting Chris Mathews.

Jeeze, what's a guy gotta do to get a laugh aroung here?

eric taylor @ 57:

tweety isn't a tool of the right wing, but he did look bad when miller called him that. Think about it. If you called someone like Keith Olberman a tool of the right wing, he'd have a little chuckle and move on. If you called O'Reilly a tool of the right wing, he would have (and has had) a hissy fit because that's what he is, and it's the words that are true that hurt the most.

Chris Mathews probably went home tonight and stared at the mirror and asked himself "I'm a really just a tool?"

He looked entirely too defensive.

This makes no sense. By your logic, you shouldn't defend yourself if you're accused of being racist or anti-semitic and the Al Sharptons and Alan Dershowitzs of this world should be free to throw accusations around with impunity. I like Stephanie Miller but I think even she would admit that she was out of line.

If Matthews was called a rightwing tool by a guy he would've had a snappy comeback. Tweety is always awkward, insecure and mush mouthed in the presence of a hot chick; especially a hot chick who insults him.

This makes no sense. By your logic, you shouldn’t defend yourself if you’re accused of being racist or anti-semitic and the Al Sharptons and Alan Dershowitzs of this world should be free to throw accusations around with impunity. I like Stephanie Miller but I think even she would admit that she was out of line.

How was she out of line when what she said was 100% accurate? Matthews is a tool representing the financial/political interests of a major corporation.

GonzoD @ 51:

Greg @ 44:

Enough with calling Chris Mathews a right winger already. Is he a "tool"? You bet. He's not the brightest bulb out there either, but look at the guests he praises and the opinions he gives on his show. He tends to be left of center. I'm all for calling Mathews out on his ridiculousness, but the man is not a right winger. I feel dirty saying that since I'm not a fan of him or his style.

Considering that he drools over Fred Thompson, Mitt Romney, Rudy & practically blows Tom Delay whenever he's on the show, if he's not a right winger, then he's one hell of an actor!

So Matthews should treat all Republicans the way Lee Bollinger treated Ahmadinejad? That's what Bill O'Reilly does to anybody that doesn't tow the Republican party line. Matthews may be wrong to invite the Delays and the Coulters on his show. But once they're invited, he has no choice but to treat these assholes with respect.

xoites defends Constitution @ 140:

myshadow @ 126:

xoites defends Constitution @ 100:

"I don't think President Bush is an evil guy at all. In fact, I don't think!"

Well, actually he IS evil, the coarse vulgar sociopathic type of evil. His doppelganger VP is the earthbound embodiment of every other kind of malevolent of evil. Tweety is a right wing tool because he is in their box. He cheerleads for bush's package on the flight deck of an aircraft carrie, voted for him twice, ok so he is against the war...finally. He trumpets rudy at every possible opportunity, bashes Hillary with every opportunity. I'm sure both Tip O' Neil and Pat Moynahan are spinning in their graves looking at tweety and russert. Tools of the right wing...

I friggin' know he's evil, ok? I was (mis)quoting Chris Mathews.

Jeeze, what's a guy gotta do to get a laugh aroung here?

;)

I was wondering what had happend to Fat Bastard since the release of the last Austin Powers film....

Tweety, why look so hurt? "Right wing tool" is nothing more than what passes for an average TV "journalist" these days.

Hey, at least you've got a steady job, and the money is really, really good. I mean, you're stinking rich, right? Hey yeah, you are! And all it cost you was your personal integrity! So don't get all glum when somebody calls you a right wing tool. You do it really well, sometimes even pretending to be a "moderate" until the next time you're needed.

Keep in mind: Reliable tools are just what makes it possible for corporations to maintain their stranglehold on American public opinion, and frankly, Tweety, you're one of the best! So turn that frown upside down, unless a frown makes your "moderate" cover more convincing. In that case, carry on, Tweety Tool!

Hey Chris Mathews, a DRUNK DRIVER never sets out to kill anyone, when he climbs behind the wheel of a machine HE SHOULD BE OPERATING, either. But the FACT that GWB is in control of something HE CANNOT CONTROL does and did lead to the senseless deaths of thousands upon thousands, and the pain and suffering of not only millions, but an entire nation (not to mention the deepening division here both politically and economically).

Snowball @ 144:

This makes no sense. By your logic, you shouldn’t defend yourself if you’re accused of being racist or anti-semitic and the Al Sharptons and Alan Dershowitzs of this world should be free to throw accusations around with impunity. I like Stephanie Miller but I think even she would admit that she was out of line.

How was she out of line when what she said was 100% accurate? Matthews is a tool representing the financial/political interests of a major corporation.

She's out of line because she did not make an objective comment but a subjective insult, unless of course she has hard evidence like copies of the canceled checks that were paid by the Bush administration to Armstrong Williams and a contract the stipulated that he was to promote the right-wing agenda. She could have called Dennis Kucinich a right-wing tool and he would not have been able to disprove it either. Matthews would have likely gotten just as upset if she had called him a racist. How can he disprove it?

My most conservative estimates have her at least 33 percent right on her usage of the phrase, "right wing tool".

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