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CSpan's Washington Journal had Flynt Leverett on to discuss his latest article in Esquire Magazine " The Secret History of the Impending War with Iran That the White House Doesn't Want You to Know"

In the years after 9/11, Flynt Leverett and Hillary Mann worked at the highest levels of the Bush administration as Middle East policy experts for the National Security Council. Mann conducted secret negotiations with Iran. Leverett traveled with Colin Powell and advised Condoleezza Rice. They each played crucial roles in formulating policy for the region leading up to the war in Iraq. But when they left the White House, they left with a growing sense of alarm -- not only was the Bush administration headed straight for war with Iran, it had been set on this course for years. That was what people didn't realize. It was just like Iraq, when the White House was so eager for war it couldn't wait for the UN inspectors to leave. The steps have been many and steady and all in the same direction. And now things are getting much worse. We are getting closer and closer to the tripline, they say. ... (read on)

You may recall Flynt Leverett from when he and his wife Hillary Mann, who co-wrote the now infamous redacted NYT Op-Ed and its corresponding "What We Wanted to Tell You About Iran" which linked to already published sources for all of the redacted info the White House was desperately trying to keep hidden, which Raw Story followed up on with their "The redacted Iran op-ed revealed." Much of Leverett and Mann's work helped form the basis for an amazing PBS Frontline Special which aired Tues night, " Showdown with Iran" which you can watch online. Look for us to be bringing you more on that later here at C&L.

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Hello Congress....

"If our military leaders are currently preparing plans that are even remotely comparable to what is being called World War III, they should testify before Congress...."
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/102307a.html

I probably shouldn't have called it "his latest article" as it's about him and his wife not by him, but, well, you get the point. I do make mistakes sometimes. It's stll a great article which i hope everyone does go check out.

What the White House Doesn’t Want You To Know About Iran: "Anything".

Very informative. Thanks for the post.

Hitler would have done the same thing

Mann and Leverett are interviewed in this months esquire also its a pretty good article

Someone in congress needs to draft a bill granting immunity to anyone leaking vital information about the Bush administration and any plans they have to wage war.

Then they need to draft a bill granting immunity to anyone ... [deleted--do not even imply violence against an elected official on this site]

Loonie @ 3:

What the White House Doesn’t Want You To Know About Iran: "Anything".

Exactly. The sad thing is how few if any in this country do know anything about Iran. Most people think the Iranian Revolution and the Hostage crisis was a failure of Jimmy Carter, not the result of the US' overthrow of a progressive secular democracy over oil and the installation of a US puppet dictator whose CIA trained secret police tortured and killed all opposition for 25 years.

There's a reason they don't like us, and if another country did it to us, we wouldn't like them either.

alex @ 6:

Mann and Leverett are interviewed in this months esquire also its a pretty good article

Um, that's what this post is all about. I'm just sayin'. ;)

I have a question: This is not my wheelhouse, so I'm probably over-simplifying it.

Why can't the international community develop an independent agency to administer and store enriched uranium for countries wanting to develop nuclear power? It seems that if there were full-time, on-site, administrators that most concern for misusing the uranium could be put to rest. In essence the country would own the nuclear power facilities; but the agency would own the uranium.

U.S. Requests Bunker-Buster Bombs
Reported October 24, 2007

"Tucked inside the White House's $196 billion emergency funding request for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is an item that has some people wondering whether the administration is preparing for military action against Iran.

The item: $88 million to modify B-2 stealth bombers so they can carry a newly developed 30,000-pound bomb called the massive ordnance penetrator, or, in military-speak, the MOP."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3771522&page=1

The Nuclear Bunker Buster: ANIMATION of the effect by Union of Concerned Scientists based on Pentagon info: WATCH THIS (2 min)
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_security/nuclear_weapons/nuclear-bunker-buster-rnep-animation.html

These bastards are going to do it.

Their Esquire article should be required reading for every US citizen and resident.

Scottt Ritter on Iran

"On The Eve Of Destruction

By Scott Ritter
10-22-7

Don't worry, the White House is telling us. The world's most powerful leader was simply making a rhetorical point. At a White House press conference last week......."

http://www.rense.com/general78/eved.htm

Iran has always been the end game in the Middle East.

WE ARE A NATION OF WAR CRIMINALS

I want to open my front door and scream "NOT IN MY NAME!!!"
Thanks for linking to this article.

PurplePatriot @ 10:

I have a question: This is not my wheelhouse, so I'm probably over-simplifying it.

Why can't the international community develop an independent agency to administer and store enriched uranium for countries wanting to develop nuclear power? It seems that if there were full-time, on-site, administrators that most concern for misusing the uranium could be put to rest. In essence the country would own the nuclear power facilities; but the agency would own the uranium.

A great solution that the US would never agree to.
Nor would the rest of the world as long as they rightly perceive the US as a threat.
We need a leader that represents strength through peace.

Kucinich 08

Amen to Kucinich.

We're f@cked.

President Bush's disturbingly flip comment last Wednesday about Iran and World War III not only revealed his apparent comfort when discussing global conflagration. Bush's gaffe also showed the common vision between himself, the man most likely to succeed him as head of the Republican Party and those who advise them both. For George Bush, Rudy Giuliani and the likes of Norman Podhoretz, the only dispute about "world war" is whether we're already fighting it and what number we're on.

For the details, see:
"Bush and Giuliani on the Next World War."

nwmuse @ 16:

Amen to Kucinich.

Well, ...

"What about Kucinich?
You might as well be voting for Saddam.
That guy's a vegetarian for Christ's sake"

You know who said that? You'd probably be surprised.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUiNiB2yVCQ

:lol:

Closed doors to diplomacy, or anything that would show potential for historic events that may have been able to give Bush a legacy among the ranks of Reagan for tearing down the wall. Actual compliance from Iran. Instead, our minds are made, there is no other route.

Escalating language in speeches, repitition, and finally action. The woman that had her hands painted red was not simply implying millions of Iraqi's, this was premonitious to the millions that would be affected by the carelessness of American leaders trying to destroy something they may not even be able to effectively destroy. What ever happened to risk analysis? World War III is only being pushed by one administration, everybody else is just biding their time to make their move. We won't even realize what hit us until it's too late.

People realized all right! I realized and many of the other people who frequent this blog and the many other blogs have been saying it for years. The problem is that Joe Sixpack and Betty Winebox don’t want to listen or they want to believe the O’Reillys and Hannitys and the Becks and the Limpdicks of the world. When the shit hits the fan it’s “tough shit” for the “Sixpacks” and the “Wineboxes” of the country. We told you so idiots. I’m armed and ready. Are you with me or against me?

I meant to put the quote in there:
“The Bush administration headed straight for war with Iran, it had been set on this course for years. That was what people didn’t realize. It was just like Iraq, when the White House was so eager for war it couldn’t wait for the UN inspectors to leave. The steps have been many and steady and all in the same direction. And now things are getting much worse. We are getting closer and closer to the tripline, they say”

People realized all right! I realized and many of the other people who frequent this blog and the many other blogs have been saying it for years. The problem is that Joe Sixpack and Betty Winebox don’t want to listen or they want to believe the O’Reillys and Hannitys and the Becks and the Limpdicks of the world. When the shit hits the fan it’s “tough shit” for the “Sixpacks” and the “Wineboxes” of the country. We told you so idiots. I’m armed and ready.

So you've got hard liners in the US administration with heroic view of history making using Iranian nukes as political resource. Then you have hard liners in Iran playing the Sadam rope-a-dope, practically asking for "surgical" bombing to achieve political advantage that can be parlayed for years to come. The real bad news for all the innocents that get caught up in collateral.

Bombing of facilities years from achieving results will only prove falsely that Iran had the immediate potential having nukes. As to state sponsored terrorism and supply of arms to terrorists, US probably has the worst record in such supply and also in suffering blowback with the use of same. What was Iran Contra about?

Hey Flynt, thanks for the heads up 4+ years too late.

Turk Meister @ 25:

Hey Flynt, thanks for the heads up 4+ years too late.

What! We went to war w/ Iran 4 years ago? I thought when he and his wife came out against this administration's plans to go to war with Iran last year it was still well before we went to war with them.

Did I just sleep through that? What year is this?

What, Flynt resigned in March 2003 because of differences he had with the administration about Iraq and then proceeded to voice his concerns in public and out loud to anyone who would listen? Oh, I must have slept through that since this is the first time I've ever heard of him.

The clown playing President is in for a rude ending.

I hope the next president hires Flynt Leverett

This is a "letter to the editor" that I sent yesterday to the New York Times.
I don't think that they will publish it, but I'd lke you to see it, and I would be interested in whatever comments you might have.

Recently, the Vice President went on television to let it be known that he is serious about military action against Iran. The President also appeared on television to announce that the world community must place greater pressure on Iran in order to prevent Iran from as much as having the knowledge or capability to build nuclear weapons. This he said, was necessary in order to avoid World War III.

Meanwhile, Turkey is preparing to send it's troops into Northern Iraq to PKK assaults on its territory. The US is in no position to oppose Turkey in attacking Kurdish "terrorists" based in Iraq, but the Kurds are America's only reliable ally in Iraq. President Putin recently visited Tehran to express his support and respect for Iran's sovereignty.

Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney have each announed their determination to extend the war into Iran, possibly igniting a Third World War in the Middle East.

Unless you are foolish enough to believe that such a war is necessary and would have a purgative effect, you understand that such a war would inevitably be catastrophic, and must be avoided at all costs.

If Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney are determined to enlarge their present illegitimate war, if they are contemplating an attack on Iran, or the use of nuclear weapons in such a war, they must be removed from office as quickly as possible. They represent a threat to the United States, to the rest of the world, and to our future generations.

Impeachment must be placed back on the table. The stakes are too high. Life and death.
Dennis Kucinich has presented a Bill of Impeachment against Vice President Cheney.
It certainly deserves more attention than it has been getting. And certainly, a Bill of Impeachment for George W.Bush should long ago have been presented in Congress if the US were a functional democracy. To survive it may have to actually become one.

IMPEACH BUSH.....NOW!!!

tjb @ 5:

Hitler would have done the same thing

Paint a little mustache on Bush and....

Turk Meister @ 27:

What, Flynt resigned in March 2003 because of differences he had with the administration about Iraq and then proceeded to voice his concerns in public and out loud to anyone who would listen? Oh, I must have slept through that since this is the first time I've ever heard of him.

I hope people don't think you are being snarky by your "I must have slept through that" because Dr Leverett did resign in March of 2003 in opposition the Bush's policies in the middle east. since he and his wife's area of expertise was dealing with Iran, he has became the most credible critic of the Bush admin ever since it became apparent they were seriously considering attacking them.

It's simple. Have all the American people you can get to write to the current administration and FORBID them declare war on Iran on pain of death. And if they refuse...take them out bodily and imprison them. If they refuse...

What Washington doesn't want you to know about ________________ (fill in the blank), you probably will never find out.

Consider this: the last time you bought a car or a major appliance, you probably checked out several models each from several different manufacturers - what features they had, how long the warranty was, how well made they were. If you were smart, you visited some consumer sites or purchased reviewer magazines. You did the research before you laid out your hard-earned money.

Goddamn it, I wish people would put the same kind of effort into where their vote goes. The #1 determining factor of who gets in is still how much money is spent on the campaign, leading very quickly to the #2 factor, name recognition. How pathetic is that? "I voted for this guy because I've heard his name more often than the other guy's name."

Let's apply some of those fine-tuned consumer skillz to politics, shall we?

SadButTrue @ 35:

What Washington doesn't want you to know about ________________ (fill in the blank), you probably will never find out.

Consider this: the last time you bought a car or a major appliance, you probably checked out several models each from several different manufacturers - what features they had, how long the warranty was, how well made they were. If you were smart, you visited some consumer sites or purchased reviewer magazines. You did the research before you laid out your hard-earned money.

Goddamn it, I wish people would put the same kind of effort into where their vote goes. The #1 determining factor of who gets in is still how much money is spent on the campaign, leading very quickly to the #2 factor, name recognition. How pathetic is that? "I voted for this guy because I've heard his name more often than the other guy's name."

Let's apply some of those fine-tuned consumer skillz to politics, shall we?

Hon, many many people just buy the car they see on TV the most--it's why auto makers keep spending money making commercials. You know that.

I get what you are saying, and yeah, I researched the hell out of my last auto purchase, as I do each and every vote. But then again, I don't watch TV...
;)

justabill @ 33:

Turk Meister @ 27:

What, Flynt resigned in March 2003 because of differences he had with the administration about Iraq and then proceeded to voice his concerns in public and out loud to anyone who would listen? Oh, I must have slept through that since this is the first time I've ever heard of him.

I hope people don't think you are being snarky by your "I must have slept through that" because Dr Leverett did resign in March of 2003 in opposition the Bush's policies in the middle east. since he and his wife's area of expertise was dealing with Iran, he has became the most credible critic of the Bush admin ever since it became apparent they were seriously considering attacking them.

My point is that I never heard him speak out against the attack on Iraq even though he knew it was coming and disagreed with the adiministration so much so that he resigned in apparent protest. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate his efforts to prevent a similar crime as it relates to Iran it's just that no insiders spoke out about Iraq when it might have done some good.

Turk Meister @ 37:

Turk Meister @ 27:

What, Flynt resigned in March 2003 because of differences he had with the administration about Iraq and then proceeded to voice his concerns in public and out loud to anyone who would listen? Oh, I must have slept through that since this is the first time I've ever heard of him.

My point is that I never heard him speak out against the attack on Iraq even though he knew it was coming and disagreed with the adiministration so much so that he resigned in apparent protest. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate his efforts to prevent a similar crime as it relates to Iran it's just that no insiders spoke out about Iraq when it might have done some good.

You need to check out Leverett and Mann's redacted op-ed in the NYT from December 22, 2006. They've been trying to "speak out" about the administration's Iran-baiting (their area of expertise, not Iraq) for a while now, but they're not being allowed to speak freely, which might explain why this is the first time you've heard of him.

I, for one, salute Flynt Leverett and Hillary Mann as true heroes for their courage, fortitude and persistence. And thanks to C & L for being on top of this story-- the Esquire piece is a very, very chilling portrait of how this administration operates and the tremendously stupid, callous things that are being said and done in the name of the American people.

Not sure I want to be neighbors with the US anymore. What's with all the hypocrisy? Now that Peak Oil is grabbing everyone's attention, the geo-political maneuvering for the 'last oil' will increase. China has already allied with Russia for eastern oil, has aligned itself militarily, and is looking hard at the Caspian sea for the remnants of oil. The US is just protecting what it believes to be 'their' supply in the mid. east.

It's not about nuclear, never was with Iraq either. It's about making sure that you have the last bits of oil to grease the wheels of your military in order to keep protecting the economy. In today's world, it's not mlitary might that wins wars, it's economic might. As seen in Iraq, which will last decades and still never be won, the US is stuck in a quagmire in order to wrestled control of the the last drops. The US knows without being the most powerful economy, her status as a super power will diminish rapidly. You need the oil, and your national guard, not roughnecks, will secure the supply.

Turk Meister @ 37:

My point is that I never heard him speak out against the attack on Iraq even though he knew it was coming and disagreed with the adiministration so much so that he resigned in apparent protest. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate his efforts to prevent a similar crime as it relates to Iran it's just that no insiders spoke out about Iraq when it might have done some good.

1) You can't speak out and keep your job when you serve at the pleasure of the President, especially this President. Yes he could have spoken out before Iraq, although as an Iranian policy advisor I'm not sure what he really knew about Bushco's plans involving Iraq. You are making one hell of an assumption that he did.

2)By your (il)logic, everyone who disagreed with Bush should have quit and spoken out. While it MIGHT seem admirable I think that would only have exasperated the problem considerably by ensuring that there were no sane voices or opinions in Bush's cabinet, only sycophant dittoheads. None of the others who have quit and spoken out (Richard Clarke comes to mind) made crap of a difference to Bushco. They just attacked them and went right on with their PNAC plans anyway.

3)Flynt sounds like he was that sorely needed sane voice, and he quit (or was pushed out? We don't know, but it coincided with the invasion of Iraq) when his advice was not listened to. He then immediately began speaking out, joining the Brookings institute and going on shows like Democracy Now.

right on time:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/24/AR200710...

The Bush administration plans to roll out an unprecedented package of unilateral sanctions against Iran today, including the long-awaited designations of its Revolutionary Guard Corps as a proliferator of weapons of mass destruction and of the elite Quds Force as a supporter of terrorism, according to senior administration officials.

Perhaps it's because I've been outside the states for over a decade but I just cannot see the U.S. invading Iran.
It makes so little sense.
The military cannot stand to be stretched any further and for fuck's sake, we've got to be running out of defense contractors with pockets to line.

In all seriousness, anyone in the military or who works closely with the military could tell you that we don't have the resources to invade Iran. The military is simply too thinly stretched as it is.

An invasion of Iran would be an invitation for North Korea to attack us or for China to shut down our economy by demanding payment on the money we owe them.

Not even bush and cheney can be so deluded or care so little about America. I just can't see it. They are evil but not even Hitler or Stalin were capable of that level of depravity.

Again, I just can't see it happening. There is zero logic in it.

Why does it feel like our country is a runaway train heading for a cliff? There were people speaking out against going to war in Iraq too, people who saw the writing on the wall, while Bush lied saying he intended to exhaust all diplomatic measures. George Bush has lied and lied, yet the little twit still sits in the White House. Where the hell is the leadership in this country, and why can't this criminal administration be stopped?

#42 Tim in Japan...
There are so many things happening in this country that I never would have imagined, but then here we are. We have torture, suspension of habeus corpus, extraorindary rendition, illegal spying on Americans, expansion of presidential power to such a point that it feels more like a dictatorship, and stolen elections, to name but a few. The republicans have turned Congress into a completely dysfunctional institution, and basically broken the government. I barely recognize this country anymore, and I'm certainly having a hard time feeling proud. It's very frightening, not to mention depressing. What saddens me the most is that I have an 18 year old son I'm getting ready to send out into an America that seems more and more like a Banana Republic than the great country I used to know.

oh, but Code Pink is "too theaterical"!

These look like important bits of reading, but my system administrator has blocked these sights, because they are listed as entertainment and "provacative attire". Di they appear anywhere in other publications?

Indict. Impeach. Incarcerate.

PERIOD!

"See, we have to invade Iran. We've just discovered that the Iranians have hands, which could be used to build nukulilurian weapons!"

There was an excellent show on Frontline about Iran and the comedy of errors the Buscovite Junta made because of their arrogance and superiority complex. Proves beyond a doubt how inept they are at diplomacy---probably the worst ever.

www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline

Read it and weep.

justabill @ 40:

Turk Meister @ 37:

My point is that I never heard him speak out against the attack on Iraq even though he knew it was coming and disagreed with the adiministration so much so that he resigned in apparent protest. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate his efforts to prevent a similar crime as it relates to Iran it's just that no insiders spoke out about Iraq when it might have done some good.

1) You can't speak out and keep your job when you serve at the pleasure of the President, especially this President. Yes he could have spoken out before Iraq, although as an Iranian policy advisor I'm not sure what he really knew about Bushco's plans involving Iraq. You are making one hell of an assumption that he did.

2)By your (il)logic, everyone who disagreed with Bush should have quit and spoken out. While it MIGHT seem admirable I think that would only have exasperated the problem considerably by ensuring that there were no sane voices or opinions in Bush's cabinet, only sycophant dittoheads. None of the others who have quit and spoken out (Richard Clarke comes to mind) made crap of a difference to Bushco. They just attacked them and went right on with their PNAC plans anyway.

3)Flynt sounds like he was that sorely needed sane voice, and he quit (or was pushed out? We don't know, but it coincided with the invasion of Iraq) when his advice was not listened to. He then immediately began speaking out, joining the Brookings institute and going on shows like Democracy Now.

I'm sure as an expert on Iran he had no expertise on Iraq since they share a common border, and during the 80's had a protracted conflict. It seems a reasonable conclusion rather than one hell of an assumption that an expert on Iran would have just a bit of knowledge about Iraq. Even a dimbulb president like Bush might have asked his expert if there were any ramifications concerning Iran when proposing to invade Iraq.

And sure, the others who spoke out got the GOP sledgehammer to quiet dissent. Any maybe one more voice would not have mattered. No one can know for sure. And perhaps the problem would have been exacerbated. I, for one, am exasperated by the continued outrages. Doubtless Flynt is not the enemy and deserves our full support in order to prevent the next foreign policy blunder (illegal war) Bush and his merry band lunatics have planned.

Spicegal @ 43:

Why does it feel like our country is a runaway train heading for a cliff? There were people speaking out against going to war in Iraq too, people who saw the writing on the wall, while Bush lied saying he intended to exhaust all diplomatic measures. George Bush has lied and lied, yet the little twit still sits in the White House. Where the hell is the leadership in this country, and why can't this criminal administration be stopped?

Good point. The public needs to revoke all delegated powers and start over. The US government is the domestic enemy.

grover nerdkissed @ 45:

oh, but Code Pink is "too theaterical"!

Bush cannot adequately argue with Code Pinks' valid claims; so he is using non-sense. He's not making an argument, but making noise.

The President has lost a legal foundation for justifying any continued support. He should be peacefully arrested and lawfully removed from office: A sitting president can be prosecuted outside impeachment.

PurplePatriot @ 7:

Someone in congress needs to draft a bill granting immunity to anyone leaking vital information about the Bush administration and any plans they have to wage war.

Then they need to draft a bill granting immunity to anyone ... [deleted--do not even imply violence against an elected official on this site]

The bill would not make it through. The Cons in Congress would vote against it and then the Chimp would veto it.

Ah...So begins the secret war on Laos...oops! I mean Iran

justabill @ 40:

...
While it MIGHT seem admirable I think that would only have exasperated the problem considerably by ensuring that there were no sane voices or opinions in Bush's cabinet, only sycophant dittoheads....

I think you must have meant exacerbated, which means it made the situation worse. But in your defense, I agree that the whole situation is quite exasperating. ;-)

The point you make though is cogent, and very worrisome. If all men (and women) of principle quit the government in protest, the government will soon have no-one left serving who have any principles. That process is already well underway, and is best exemplified by the Prosecutor Purge scandal.

And what about that anyway? Before Congress went on their August recess it seemed like they were closing in on the deliberate hijacking of the justice system. They had ample reason to issue subpoenas and even arrest warrants for Gone-zo, KKKarl Rove, and quite a few other members of the administration. Why Did They Drop The Ball???

I am a constant watcher of C-Span. You need to focus on last week's eloquent and to-the-point remarks by former Judge, Rep. Ted Poe (R-Tx) on the death penalty. Pure poetry from the former prosecutor/judge.
A great man with GREAT IDEAS, indeed.

...it's like '39 all over again. Too bad there is no Churchill to stop these lunatics this time.

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