October 29, 2007 11:00 PM
Biden says Rudy is the most under-qualified candidate: Noun + Verb + 9/11 = Giuliani Vocabulary
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Senator Joe Biden came away with one of the more memorable lines from tonight's Democratic Presidential Debate on MSNBC when he took a shot at President Bush and went after Rudy Giuliani and his lack of qualification to be president.
Biden: "...And the irony is, Rudy Giuliani, probably the most under qualified person since George Bush to seek the presidency, is here - talking about any of the people here. Rudy Giuliani. I mean think about it, Rudy Giuliani, there's only three things he mentions in a sentence -- a noun and a verb and 9/11 and I mean, there's nothing else. There's nothing else."
A classic line ........That one is gonna' be replayed through the rest of this century
that kind of joke would have been funny before 9/11 changed everything
Hey Hey! he also mentions his love for his wife/cousin a few times too.
medlakeguy @ 2:
Yeah , it changed Rudy's family .............
Again
I'd love to see Biden in a debate with any of the (R)s....
that was truely classic.
I heard Rudy has already posted a response:
"9/11! Terror! 9/11!"
see? no verbs. he's getting worse.
Where was the rest of his answer going? It gets cut off short. Some times Biden seems more like a stand up comedian than a contender, but that's cool
I'm glad Biden didn't go after Hillary. But I'm disappointed that I did not hear the crowd cheer and roar when I listened to Kucinich. I was sitting right here cheering all by myself.
Ralph Nader is right, America is owned by corporations now (recent C & L clip). That is why a fucking idiot like Rudy Ghouliani even has a snowballs chance in hell of becoming president. It's frightening and very very sad. And I'm afraid that most of the democratic candidates are going to just ride the corporate wave. We are screwed.
I like Biden's attitude. But it's Kucinich I'll vote for.
I thought Edwards did the best, and Kucinich did the most with what little time he was given; but the best sound bite of the night definitely goes to Biden.
mo_dems @ 9:
Any man who would admit to seeing a UFO at a debate is a man who has zero chance of winning the electoral support of the American people.
keytronic @ 11:
Should he have lied?
Which are real -- UFO's or WMD's?
I still like Kucinich's gumption, this interminable election season is way more laughable than his UFO comment!
Biden hit the nail on the head with his blast on Giuliani . There is no one more ignorant then this man but George Bush. Putting him in office would be like another eight years of Bush and it just makes you sick to even think about it.
I doubt if Rudy's handlers/PR crew can come up with a snappy, neutralizing line before the ridicule damage is done.
From here on out, everyone is going to be counting: Noun. Verb. 9/11. ...every time the guy opens his mouth.
Who knows? It may even force the guy to actually come up with something besides the noun, verb, and 9/11. Won't that be interesting?!?!?!
So true Mr. Biden. Although he has added "you don't want Hillary, so pick me" to his repertoire. The worst part is that everybody knows it is true, and he is the best that the GOP has to offer.
keytronic @ 11:
As opposed to claiming a special connection and having a 'direct-line' to the mythical , invisible , all powerful deity of the universe who is surrounded and aided by those who look human but sport wings ?
That sure makes a lot of sense.........
when rudy married his cousin, do you think he did it with an eye on the southern christian/klan vote?
As far as the "Noun + Verb + 9/11 = Giuliani Vocabulary," you have to remember that Giuliani has to speak in that Neandrathal dialect so his base can understand.
I could smell the desperation of the other candidates the way they went after Hillary.
LOL, they should all drop out now.
MCMetal @ 17:
Two insanities don't make a sanity.
I love that line, that killed me.
rudy likes 9/11
^ ^ ^
Noun Verb 9/11
redratio1 @ 21:
That should have been stated prior to Shrub I's retarded kid running in 2000 to the rest of the nation then..............
keytronic @ 11:
I'd vote for him just for having the STONES to admit that. Everyone thinks UFOs are nonsense... til you see one.
biden caves to the fascists in order to appear tough on crime. dems need to learn that you have to fight the fascists, 'not work something out' with them. it looks like the dems will continue to kowtow to the fascists in order to appear tough on crime.
redratio1 @ 20:
Pointing out someone's faults is considered "desperation" by you ?
Does that mean that all of Chimpy's screw-ups are merely borne out of some desperate figment of everyone's imagination ?
Try convincing 75% of the country of the validity behind that.........
I love you, Sen. Biden!
This is undeniable proof that liberalism equates intelligence. Bravo. :D
Lyon @ 25:
I saw something once....it's hard to describe.....it was kinda like a star..way way up there..it bounced around like a pinball then shot straight up and was gone....no one likes to admit to seeing things like that,cause you know people will think your crazy.Well....there was 4 of us who saw it...In the Santa Lucia mountains.
VoR @ 5:
My morning bowel movement can out debate any reich-winger.
But it was nice to see someone calling out Rudy,who is so under qualified he shouldn't consider running.Man......what an ego.
Great line. I hope he doesn't take it back when the crybaby, boogie eater repugs start up with their tired bs.
It's the damn truth!
repugs said boogies are a condiment
Biden is hilarious. He (and Hillary) are the perfect senators. Not so much for president or an ambassador, he always talks too much. Doesn't hurt him in the senate though.
If Biden doesn't win the nomination, they should at least ask him to write down some good one-liners for the debates. Kucinich is also good with the one-liners.
MCMetal @ 27:
As far as I know GWB isn't running for Prez., and wasn't on stage. But yes, I found Kerry VERY desperate...pathetically so.
mudshark @ 30:
I saw one ziz-zag across the night sky and then disappeared.
It was about three of us who saw this.
redratio1 @ 36:
Because Chimpy looked strong and secure with a receiver/transmitter taped to his back ?
I think he carried a little water for Hillary. But nice to see someone slam the nitwit.
Rudy Giuliani, probably the most under qualified person since George Bush
If that's true (and I think it is) then put a fork in it, the Republican primaries are as over as when Cheney was put in charge of finding the best VP. Giuliani is the next Republican meat puppet for the U.S.
"...there’s nothing else. There’s nothing else.”
Yeah, the GOP could sure use a handy-dandy made-to-order tehrist attack, huh? I think they want it closer to the actual election though.
MCMetal @ 38:
No, because Kerry was a babbling fool.
ANYWAY, I'm just pointing out what a juggernaut the Hillary campaign has become. Edwards in particular is wetting his diapers. Obama I thought did quite well as it stood. I still think he can't compete with the team Hillary has going.
honestly Guiliani would probably do well in some federal operations sort of director type position. I mean he really helped clean up and create new business in Manhattan (although he did sort of inherit it in that "Clinton inherited and didn't create a budget surplus" neocon false point sort of way).
but president?!?! Guiliani?!?! lol... ohhhh man... the LAST thing we need is some unqualified guy with a big ego and bigger aspirations, inheriting THIS mess!
go Kucinich. just for 4 years, come on...
redratio1 @ 42:
Yeah , because there's lots of validity behind that coming from some dope that claims Kerry was a babbling fool ; good thing the other guy was William Shakespeare"S" reincarnated , eh ?
Hillary looked like a fool when she was caught talking out of both sides of her mouth at the end.
And Edwards skewered her when he claimed (correctly) , that she said 2 completely divergent things within 2 minutes ........
Chip @ 19:
thank you so much ...that is by far THE best thought of the evening PS you might want to pass it on to Chris MSNB et al
MCMetal @ 44:
Like I said, two insanities don't make a sanity.
Skewered? Whatever! Irrelevant. Hillary is crushing everyone because he has the most money and the best strategic team. Plus Bill.
tHeGaMeOfLiFe @ 37:
it's a very weird feeling you get when you see something like that....we looked at each other ..."no one will ever believe us"...so we never brought it up again.
redratio1 @ 46:
"He" ? Well said .........
We'll see tomorrow and the day after how the polls react and if people begin to see what she's really all about .
I can't believe what I'm hearing.
A Democratic candidate slamming a Republican candidate?
This is highly irregular.
I like
the way he
avoided bashing
Clinton
heh...
CoconutHead @ 50:
Donkey ?
(And no everyone , I'm not Shrek)
Biden handled the question against Hillary masterfully.
How he isn't running against Hillary, that he is running to lead the country.
I want to see more of this from all our Democratic candidate.
I think Biden just set the bar of "why you should vote for me". Instead of "don't vote for the other person " (hoping to get their hate vote).
And Bush definately recieved the Kerry hate vote as he also recieved the Gore hate vote.
I literally clapped , in my living room.
rotflol
MCMetal @ 48:
Haha, you sexist! Just kidding.
Seriously. Is there any doubt that Hillary is going to be the Dem. nominee?
The other candidates have to pull some kind of magic rabbit out of their butt...and soon!
Robt @ 52:
Yeah , because we've all been so privileged to witness all the wonderful things there are to love about Chimpy ......................Those people that voted that way should be banned for life from voting .
RickinSF @ 49:
I guess the only thing that should surprise us less is Giuliani's War-Mongering and Fear mongering.
mudshark @ 47:
it's a very weird feeling you get when you see something like that....we looked at each other ..."no one will ever believe us"...so we never brought it up again.
The ridicule factor is huge. Kucinich did his best to minimize it for what it's worth (ie look up, see something you don't recognize = UFO) and he chuckled about it but rest assured the MSM will be all "little green men" and "anal probes" come tomorrow. Pathetic.
redratio1 @ 54:
.....or so the GOP talking point goes.........
redratio1 @ 54:
There's a huge doubt ..........I don't see many Hillary supporters in a lot of areas ; not where I live , the sites I regularly visit , nowhere........And that's a good thing.
She's Republican lite ; she's no progressive.
I'm tired of the "same ole , same ole" that's wrecking this once great nation....
ABSOLUTELY correct!
Biden is so perceptive!
redratio1 @ 36:
kulshan @ 61:
oops.
not one word on the liberal blogosphere about the corporate censorship that happened tonight on MSNBC. No One cares about free speech? Or a man with credentials and solid solutions being allowed to debate with featherweights?
Mike went ahead and went to Philly and had the debate right across the street from where the others were.
History in the making.
You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.
kulshan @ 58:
How so?
I actually like Hillary, though I am a moderate to be sure.
The only thing I want to see from any of these so called candidates is for them all to stand up say what really needs to be said and then act on it. Impeach this president and his dick for brains vice. Anything else is bullshit period. The only one with any balls is the smallest man standing up, Mr. Dennis Kucinich.
MCMetal @ 59:
Well she IS polling great. Probably not where you are.
But the thing she has is institutional backing, clever as hell strategists, and crap loads of money.
Same ole same ole regardless, she is crushing her opponents at this stage.
When is the first primary? Jan. 3rd?
The other candidates better get cracking if they think they have a chance. Otherwise we might as well skip the the convention.
old hack @ 63:
What was the censorship?
sorry i got lost in the amount of posts.
Hi Mudshark! What's the word from the west coast? Good news I hope.
redratio1 @ 20:
Did Hillary or anyone bring up Obama's choice to practice public speaking for personal job enhancement in NH instead of casting what he claimed was "a very important vote" on Iran? Didn't catch the whole "debate" but it should've come up if they're going to slice & dice her for actually showing up to work that day. What would Obama do if, as POTUS, he had to follow thru on any of his "I would've done such & such" claims, run away to NH til things blew over?
mudshark @ 30:
I used to do sea fishing on the beach at night, you see a lot of weird meteors and lights in the sky when no fish are biting,
that is a shooting star aka a meteor. Most come in steep angle and just burn up or travel through the atmosphere.
The weirdest one came in at a shallow angle, skipped off the earth's atmosphere a few times, appearing to wobble, then disappeared back into space, most burn up and fade away into nothing.
That one was bright white and fast, occasionally a rare reddish one, sometimes green ones (space junk burning up)
One rather weird and fun sight was two powered Mil paragliders with single navigation lights on them, we watched these two tiny red lights silently and slowly approach along the coast a few thousand feet up, then make a right turn up the estuary.
Snap! Awesome!
I love the way Joe Biden acts as if he is running against Giuliani. It's like nobody told him Hillary is kicking his ass in the polls.
keytronic @ 11:
Whereas a man who would admit to believing in the triumphant return of Jesus and the Rapture is to be taken seriously. Yup, this country is in fine shape. Just sayin'...
Biden left out "war on terrorists that want to kill us"
(which he's said several x lately)
He uses nouns and verbs? All I hear is "9/11".
Kay @ 16:
I can't see a "best" that the GOP has to offer. They are all "Worst", period(.). :(
yogi-one @ 41:
I think we can count on that.
redratio1 @ 67:
Red,
This refers to former Alaska Senator Mike Gravel not being allowed by NBC to participate in the debate.
Tim Russert is a m-effing asshat. He thinks it's more important to ask questions about UFO's instead of asking who would repeal the Patriot Act or the Military Commissions Act, or the Protect America Act. He should be ashamed of himself, except he's too effing stupid to know. Miserable asshat.
bill w @ 77:
I don't think I'd be quick to forecast "smooth sailing" between now and Novemeber 2008. Judging from the past 6 years, there are sure to be a few "surprises".
It's cool and all that he's poking at Rudy... but that wasn't the question....
It really annoyed me that they had the cameras set up to showcase (i.e The Price is Right type of showcase) the 2 most unqualified candidates, for what seemed to be 90% of the time.
They showed and questioned Clinton & Obama more than all the other candidates combined.
In competence & experience it should be running Biden/Gravel/Dodd, Kucinich, Richardson, Edwards, Clinton & Obama.
I personally am supporting Dennis, he railed hard for impeachment & clearly questioned GWB's mental health!
http://www.google.com/search?q=Dennis+Kucinich+questions+President+Bush%...
He nailed it.
Rudy = Bush, the only difference...Rudy doesn't mangle the English Language every time he opens his mouth...
I read comments like:
"Is there any doubt that Hillary is going to be the Dem. nominee?"
or
"It’s like nobody told him Hillary is kicking his ass in the polls."
And I completely understand where they're coming from. I hear the same thing from the news and from pundits about the latest reports and poll numbers.
But doesn't it seem a bit odd to anyone else that months before a single vote has been cast, we are well on our way to solidifying our collective "mindset" on who will win the primary? Poll results might very well have validity, although that probably varies greatly based on any number of factors. But then again, in over 20 years as a voter, I've personally never been polled about how I was going to vote in an election. Still though, we keep hearing all these percentages with their +/- margin of error, day in and day out, and it's hard not to start going along with the consensus of who's a lock and who's a loser.
I guess I'm just worried that one of the reasons for low voter turnout is that many people start to believe it's a foregone conclusion who the winner will be, so they figure, why bother? And others, who might really prefer a candidate like Biden or Kucinich, vote instead for a "top tier" candidate because they feel like they're "wasting" their vote otherwise.
What came first, the chicken or the egg telling us that the chicken was a shoe-in?
I don't have a solution to offer, but I'm disturbed by the implications of elections being thought of as "over" long before voting was ever begun.
The media seems to have already decided the major players. It's Hillary and Rudy. Clinton will of course be the favorite if the MSM while Giuliani will have the backing of the "most powerful name in news"...Fox. They are already in full swing promoting Rudy and trotting out the same old tired mantra of "higher taxes" and fear of terrorism. I'm afraid that once again the American people are going to fall for this baloney, so get used to the idea of President Giuliani. The Democrats have no idea how to fight back against this tactic, as witnessed by Reid and Pelosi looking impotent against Bush. The White House must be having a great laugh at this.
To all you Kucinich supporters.....Really........UFOs....and yoy think this guy is serious presedential material....he's right where he belongs.....in the House wherein many crazies are housed.........
gumpyoldvet @ 85:
Really, what about the sanity of GW talking to God every night.
Or the sanity of Guiliani, the cross dressing fear monger that even a mother couldn't love.
Or Hillary, megalomaniac crook fund raiser extroadanaire.
Who are you voting for commenter with the wierd name?
I'll take a president that believes in Aliens over a president that believes in God any day.
But just like telling your daughter that she is not going to date that freak, the people are now going to be drawn that much closer to Rudy...
Rudy isn't Bush. Bush has a different agenda. Bush loves loyalty, bush loves corporations, bush loves being leader even though he's very poor at it. Rudy loves Rudy. Rudy loves to be evil and a liar. Rudy loves Rudy. If Satan herself popped in front of Rudy and offered a deal for his soul to be president Rudy would gleefully junp at it because Rudy has no soul. Bush does. It's small and well insulated but since he values loyalty so well, there is a soul there. Rudy just loves Rudy...
curtilingus @ 87:
What if 'god' is an alien?
MCMetal @ 1:
Senator Joe Biden is correct on Rudy Giuliani. He is exploding 9/11 for his political advantage. He was at the right place at the right time on 9/11, before that he was a lame duck mayor. Rudy Giuliani is a completely dangerous and a sick man with all sorts of corruption and arrogance in his past. Our country deserves someone better.
JKLIC
Paul/Kucinich in '08
Help us get God out of the Whitehouse.
Senator Joe Biden is correct on Rudy Giuliani. He is exploding 9/11 for his political advantage. He was at the right place at the right time on 9/11, before that he was a lame duck mayor. Rudy Giuliani is a completely dangerous and a sick man with all sorts of corruption and arrogance in his past. Our country deserves someone better.
PinkyLeftBrain @ 89:
But God created man in his own image so he can't be an alien.
The way republicans turned out, He might be a fairy.
I'm a Kucinich supporter, but I think Biden did a good job! He was aggresive, honest, stuck to his guns, and funny. That whole thing about Rudy living off "9/11" was completely true, and yet no one had said anything about it in the past. Beautiful!
VoR @ 5:
Yeah, he's sharp, I thought Dodd was pretty damn good too...and Kucinich I thought, kicked ass, until that pumpkin head Russert drop that UFO bomb...God Damn Shirley McClaine!!! What a stupid bitch!
curtilingus @ 91:
We could be early beta for their next transformation? Aliens evolve, don't they?
But as AC/DC says: Who Made Who? It's convenient that 'god' looks like us. Ochams Razor says that man created 'god' in their likeness rather than the other way around. Why else would religion be so useful to the people in power?
gumpyoldvet @ 85:
Actually Kucinich seemed to me, quite sane and in full control of his faculties...and is definitely presidential material...I mean seriously, we've actually got a man in the WH that IS certifiably insane! Can you say bi-polar? Look where that's gotten us...every single thing Kucinich said last night was exactly what this country needs...so he saw a UFO..big FUCKIN deal! He didn't say he saw little green men...that would be different...A UFO is...an UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT...Not an alien...
If were the beta, whose the VHS?
Just kidding. I believe in the philosophy of Brian Johnson as well. It is very existence-centric to think we are the first and last whether one believes in God or not.
I just wish either the aliens or God would come and save us from ourselves, cause we're fucking things up pretty bad.
Jay_M @ 81:
I noticed the MSM favoring Hillary and Barack...Hillary I thought, by the way proved herself to be quite shrewd, but to me, she exudes evil, I'm Kucinich all the way...he was the only one to say anything about the constitution if I'm not mistaken. the rest seemed to be fingerpointers and career politicians...
It's about time someone stood up to this coward and told him hey you prick stop using dead americans as a platform of bravery.
liberalNmoderation @ 95:
Come on really.........he may not be as insane as Georgie Boy but he will not be taken seriously by any other nation we need to negotiate with....he'd be perfectly suited for a tea party with ahmadinejad, cheney, kim jong il, mugabe and the mad hatter...get a life and think.....but then again americans are not rational voters....look at what we have now
HA! I really like that man.
gumpyoldvet @ 99:
Yes really. Kunicich would bring something the world hasn't seen from this country in 7 years...something called DIPLOMACY! Not this incessant saber-rattling, and the so-called Texas swagger that I'm fucking sick of....I do have a life, and I do think. No Americans aren't rational voters...But then again the MSM tells the weak minded who to vote for. and oh yeah...the last two elections were total frauds! This country is in the midst of a fascist takeover of the white house and most Americans don't seem to care. And that disgusts me to no end!
I like Biden and I'm thinking about voting for him. I think he is the most competent and experienced democratic candidate and he doesnt speak to the american people as if they were idiots. Lastly, even if I like Hilary, I just can't abide these politcal dynasties of Bush-Clinton-Bus-Clinton.
So far on MSNBC, no one has jumped on that Biden zinger. I'm not surprised, but that's possibly one of the best lines that I've ever heard from him. It's just a reminder that he and Dodd should get more press. Also, where was Mike "Angry Black Man" Gravel? NBC needs to stop the hate on Gravel. I know he has no chance, but they are stifling democracy by shutting him out. I have to say that I'm very unpleased with this election cycle. I'm only going to vote so I can continue to complain about this failure of a government we have.
actually i felt biden came off quite well in the debate. He stressed his points without too much of the "look at what i've done" that exuded from richardson, he was able to counter points thrown out my matthews that were fodder for badmouthing other candidates, hillary in particular without stepping into the abyss of a hit 'em low trap that matthews had laid out. he did it with aplomb and class and deserves credit for that. as for the commentators, time and again they tried relatively unsuccessfully to pull the candidates into a badmouth your fellow candidates on the stage and the candidates largely resisted. credit to them, because in the end one of them will be the party's candidate and we will all need to support one hundred percent that candidate.
should be noted that slimy little weasel chris matthews, when he couldn't drag the candidates into his "trap" of mud slinging, clung to hillary's statement regarding drivers licenses for illegals. he emphasized again and again that this will be the point that carries the republican platform. this will be their primary talking point.
in essence, the first election saw the diversion of the poor state of our educational system for the republicans. did you notice how once the "election" was over, education magically righted itself because no more was heard about it.
the second election diversion focused on illegal immigration. they underestimated and it did not magically disappear. with a brilliant end around, the GOP think tank intends to use it again. and they will succeed unless the dems can come up with counter points or a viable position. it was quite clear from the debate last night, from their stammering, that the dem think tank is in hibernation. just hope the questions are as strong when directed at the republican debates.
Without doubt, the best line of the debate.
Kucinich and the UFO question? For crying out loud, the moderators have to be serious about this! Dennis is not there for their amusement, or for comic relief!! He is serious in his views, and deserves to be listened to as much as any other candidate. Questions like this only serve to demean the debates.
mo_dems @ 9:
How are you going to vote for someone who isn't the nominee? A wasted write-in choice?
Rudy reminds me of Uncle Leo in the Seinfeld episode where Uncle Leo blamed everything on anti-semites only with Rudy its your hamburger was undercooked? 911!
mo_dems @ 9:
And do you think Kucinich will win the nomination?
Ha! Maybe dog-catcher, maybe! :-)
Joe won that debate.
He stated that warmongering on Iran and w's ME policy will continue to make you pay more at the pump.
Want cheaper gas, get the hell out of the ME and stop warmongering.
We are giving Iran more billions.
Geez.
For all the "UFO" will hurt Dennis people. Ronald Reagan was said to have seen one too. Jimmy Carter did also. I personally don't care if he has seen the Loch Ness Monster and Sasquatch as long as he is able to bring the country back. This shouldn't have even been brought up at the debate.
To Mudshark, I too have seen "something" 20 years ago in the California desert near Mexico.
COULD WE POSSIBLY QUIT SAYING THAT 9-11 CHANGED EVERYTHING...
IT ONLY CHANGED THE FEAR LEVEL THAT THE GOP COULD WAGE....
30 GUYS CRASHED SOME PLANES.... IT WAS TERRIBLE.... WHEN WILL DUBYA HAVE KILLED AS MANY AMERICAN SOLDIERS AS DIED IN THAT BUILDING?
getalife @ 109:
Maybe....Dodd held his own pretty well I think....I still think Kucinich would absolutely be an awesome prez...I wish I could vote in the priimaries...I'm registered unaffiliated...and they won't let me...stupid 2 party system!
No shit Joe.
liberalNmoderation...... I wish I could vote in the priimaries…I’m registered unaffiliated…and they won’t let me…stupid 2 party system
Change your registration. Isn't the country worth it. Don't use that "they won’t let me" crap. In this instance "you" have the power.
kudos to Biden for exposing the Matthewsian fraud of serial groom Rudy
I ain't a big Biden fan... But that comment was (just like the Guiness boys like to say)...BRILLIANT!!!!! hahahahahah I laughed my ass off...JD
Janet @ 114:
Honestly, I was not aware I could change it...Thanks for callin me out on my lameness. ;)
I will look into it today, and see about gettin changed, and vote for Kucinich in the primaries, and YES GOD DAMN RIGHT this country is worth that and ALOT MORE!
medlakeguy @ 2:
*plays rimshot*
But seriously folks, Biden had the line of the night. And Giuliani is a joke, we can't stand him in NY and I bet he won't even carry the state. It's the idiot suburbanites in other blue states that think this moron is the best thing since sliced bread.
If ghouliani saw Obama in a valet parking lot he'd tell him which car he was waiting for.
For all of you UFO detractors... where's your "conceptual continuity"?...The U S Airforce regularly reports UFO's...
I just wish you could get a grasp of the English languge before you try to look smart here... because you are not (grasping the language or looking smart)!
I like Biden a lot, but he's got the "whiney-dad" thing that Bush has worse -- I don't know if I could stand another four years of that tone.
Ex-Canuck @ 105:
this needs to be said again and again. the media needs to pay a price. damned smiling faces, get the anchor job, the rating, the notoriety, the bucks, and all they have to do is SELL OUT. done deal.
I think Biden would have less of a chance of losing to the Republican than any of the other Dem candidates.
And Hillary is a close second to Biden. Pillowtalk does not equal experience!
LOL, I watched 90% of the debate, Biden could of just summed it after that with "Hey, I'm here all week, try the veal!" He destroyed rudy. Nice.
redratio1 Says: I could smell the desperation of the other candidates the way they went after Hillary.
LOL, they should all drop out now.
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John A, is that you ? Hillary went down hard last night !
wilderness wino @ 120:
as with most things, "UFO" as a technical term is different than the common parlance. although it did give rise to it.
you sound like those people that try to discredit evolution as "just a theory"...
no longer a proud american @ 122:
um. well, to me, admitting to "seeing a UFO", although qualifying it by mentioning that since he didn't know what it was it was certainly "unidentified" shows a shocking lack of foresight in the sort of mockery it would produce. so it certainly was worth mentioning. hell, they asked the republicans who didn't believe in evolution. to some people (like me, for instance) these are equally ridiculous. but they helped show me who, on the stage, was equally ridiculous.
the problem with politics is it's full of politicians. yes. everyone knows that. but when someone goes in expecting not to have to play politics? that's just naive.
And to all the Kucinich detractors, he explained his experience. He said, (paraphrasing)
'Now wait a minute, a, u.f.o is a un-identified-flying-object'. So make of it what you will,
however, millions and millions of people have had the same experience, just because it has'nt happened too you doesn't mean it didn't happen too him !
Jesus Christ. . . piss of with your UFO trolling. The guy said that he saw something that he couldn't identify and all the asshats are out in spades calling him crazy. What would you have said you ever so smart and reasonable people who aren't crazy at all? If he says he didn't see anything he's a liar. If he tries to identify it as something else he's being coy and dodgy. If he tells the truth he is crazy. . . It was a question designed to trap him and you asshats fell right into it .
Get a brain and learn when you are being manipulated and where the priorities lie.
Sheesh.
Guliani's ringtone is the twin towers crumbling. - Bill Maher
Something something something ... 9/11...
Something something something COMPLETE!
Lyon @ 57:
The ridicule factor is huge. Kucinich did his best to minimize it for what it's worth (ie look up, see something you don't recognize = UFO) and he chuckled about it but rest assured the MSM will be all "little green men" and "anal probes" come tomorrow. Pathetic.
It could have been pureloy a coincidence but as I was walking past a TV today I saw about 15 seconds of CNN and the text at the bottom of the screen practically shouted "Kucinich says he spotted a UFO" and I had to keep walking.
I knew the media would have a feeding frenzy with this. Especially after Kucinich very pointedly and very accurately took them to task for shoving the invasion of Iraq down everyones throat
Way to go Biden, your soundbite was the best of the evening!
By the way, all of the Democratic candidates are outstanding debaters, with the exception of Richardson, who is in way over his head.
Well, the MSM may go all Pavlovian on Kucinich's comments about seeing something he couldn't identify in the sky... An unidentified flying object so to speak... By the way, there was no mention out of Denny about any little green man so ho-hum as far as I'm concerned about that..He's not the only person who has ever seen something in the sky they couldn't quite figure out... (yawn) But as far as anal probes go??... That is strickly a republican joke now....JD
ferrofluid @ 70:
I've seen shooting stars and meteors.....this wasn't one of them...I've seen the space station and sattilites....and again this wasn't one of them...not the way this thing bounced around up there....45degree angles and 90 degree angles and back to 45 degree angles...then a 180 and gone......
mudshark @ 136:
oh yeah...one more thing....it didn't have a "tail"
UFO???....
I GOT HIT IN THE HEAD ONCE WITH A UFO....
TURNED OUT TO BE A BASEBALL....
THEN IT WAS JUST A FO
MITT ROMNEY (MORMON) HAS STUDIED RUDY'S MARITAL RECORD... HIS OPINION... "PROOF THAT RUDY CAN'T MULTITASK"
YOU GOTTA LOVE RUDY THO... AS A DEMOCRAT... PRO-CHOICE PRO-GAY GOTTA BE DRIVING THE F$^% OUT OF THE HEAVY RIGHTWING NUTJOBS... I HOPE HE WINS THE NOMINATION... MAYBE EVEN THE ELECTION... I CAN SEE IT NOW: THREE FIRST LADIES... THE PRES IN DRAG... A BRONZE STATUE ON THE WHITEHOUSE LAWN, RUDY HOLDING UP THE TWIN TOWERS...
A NEW CORPORATE SPONSORED MOTTO ON THE ONE DOLLAR BILL "9-11 CHANGED EVERYTHING, 7-11 OPEN 24 HOURS"...
This line is pure classic! Binden is now in my good books.
WOW! Biden is really good to find grammar. Biden is right, Rudy most of time mention a name then jump to 9/11. Rudy is under-qualified to be a President.
I don't think even rudi has any noun-verb or anything else. No it's just hot air.
"There's only three things he mentions in a sentence: a noun and a verb and 9/11."
The crowd responds with laughter and scattered applause. The Blogs approve calling it one of the best line of the night.
The largest act of terrorism in history.
3000 people dead.
Now, the punch line for a joke.
Are you proud?
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