Thompson's policy troubles get even worse
It’s been a rough couple of months for Fred Thompson when it comes to public policy and reality. After being away from politics for a few years, it stands to reason he’d be a little rusty, but he’s had time to clear the cobwebs, read some white papers, and listen to some policy briefings.
At last count, he’s flubbed questions on Iraqi WMD, the Jena Six, Terri Schiavo, Social Security, a national consumption tax, and drilling the Everglades. Now he’s taking on the United Nations and gun-control policy.
Last year, the United Nations Sub-Commission on the Promotion and Protection of Human Rights declared that international human rights law requires all nations to adopt strict gun control laws. These “minimum” provisions are much more restrictive than any of those on the books anywhere in the U.S. and would almost certainly violate the Second Amendment of our Constitution.
Thompson’s written statement on the issue went on to condemn “forced disarmament.” A fair number of conservative blogs picked up on this, and praised Thompson’s firm stand.
The statement read like a passionate declaration on an issue Thompson obviously takes seriously. It’s unfortunate, then, that the former senator managed to get all of his facts wrong.
sigh here it is..... such a horrible shame that my left wing foreign policy views are in direct conflict with my gun control views. Leaves me nobody to vote for..... Except Jim Webb. Webb for president.
Note to democrats: stay away from gun control it will increase your chances of success.
Fred WILL be the republican candidate. He's perfect for them. They like facade over substance.
Gotta agree with the first poster. Trying to take my guns away is the quickest way to loose my vote.
Since when did facts matter? (See Giuliani thread below) When you're preaching to the choir you can tell any lie and your audience will suspend their disbelief and, indeed,all thought processes.
If Thompson wanted to improve his policy position and his policy statements, and follow his life-long policy and pursuit of his dream, 'Thompson Uber Alles' he would:
Just Shut Up!
A rational calculation shows that a mute would have a 96.5% better chance of winning a primary, anywhere, than a speaking Fred Thompson.
"Players in a fixed game get sloppy." ( Mike Ruppert )
It will make absolutely no difference that he got his facts wrong. Nobody will call him on it.
vetinla @ 2:
I'm sorry to use this term but the Base just is not having it with this long-time NW DC windbag...
Huckabee has a better chance than "abortion-lobbyist" Freddie T.
David Brooks and Rich Lowry think Huckabee has the right stuff
They're REALLY reaching.....
Fred is wrong. Nothing in the UN mandate would limit states' rights to form well-regulated militias (the National Guard). That is the ONLY gurantee made by the Second Amendment.
Can he get a round of applause?
aziz @ 1:
Did you even read that to which you are responding? It would appear that the answer is NO.
ray @ 3:
Ok, so you agree that you have no clue what you are talking about and responded to something that you didn't bother to read? Ladies and Gentlemen, may I present Dumb and Dumber.
Im talking about left wing views on gun control in general. christ.
What an asshole
Another attempt from the Neocons to slam the UN on gun control. They have tried this before and looks like they are now. As the old saying goes;
Don’t go off half cocked.
It appears Freddy has.
Many on the right don’t know jack about our constitution and laws.
Trying to take my guns away is the quickest way to loose my vote.
Yeah, we'll need them when the Islamofascists come to impose Sharia law on Omaha. It's going to happen, people. Hillary's got the paperwork all ready.
Get your guns now while you still can.
(brought to you by Citizens to Draft Larouche: he was crazy before it was popular!)
aziz @ 13:
And the topic is right wing views on gun control. Try and keep up.
When has any Repug been bothered with little things called facts over the last 40 years.
Let's see:
Letting Vietnam fall to Communists would lead to all of SE Asia becoming communist, now favored trading partner.
Welfare would cause the US to go too much into debt; wrong welfare, looking out for Industry instead of the people.
Nafta would be good for the economies of US, Mexico and Canada; well at least Canada is seeing something out of it.
Saddam had or was trying to acquire WMD's; hadn't had any since we gave him some.
etc.
How come everyone gets to carry a gun (a deadly weapon), but women shouldn't have free choice?
My, my, I wonder what Jesus would have to say about guns? Oh yea "Kill everyone who doens't want me to run the government.
The wingnuts have to have something to get paranoid about. Especially during the lull between Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week and the War on Christmas season.
Yeah, Rose, I don't get the "sanctity of life" and "I need a gun" hypocrisy either. My guess is that gun people are just as dumb as Fred and Chimpy.
Joementum @ 20:
LOL So true. Pathetic, but true.
Remember, people like Freddie, who see invisible non existent conspiracies are the same people who believe in an invisible man in the sky who will rain down fire, death and destruction on the heads of the unfaithful. If you believe in things that don't exist, you are mentally unbalanced.
oh c'mon guys. Don't you think you're asking a bit much to expect Republicans to actually use facts? Facts are to Republicans what a pin is to an overfilled balloon.
FACTS? Are you kidding me?!!! They haven't been relevant for the past 6-1/2 years!!!!!!
ray @ 3:
Nobody wants to take your fucking gun(s) away so please stop parroting NRA/reichwing bullshit.
It's ok. He's a republican so things like facts and reality don't enter into it.
AF_Comm_Guy @ 23:
Exactly!
Maybe this is why he keeps forgetting that the USSR dissolved 15+ years ago. I'll bet he starts channeling Reagan soon.
Wow! He really IS Reagan all over again!
Preacher Boob @ 5:
Of course, a rational calculation does not apply to Bush's US, so Fred's still in the running. I understand that Rove/Bush are surreptitiously supporting him, believing that he has a slightly better chance than Giuliani of knocking the Bush administration out of first place in 'World's Worst Governments' historical records, and Bush, of course, is obsessed with improving his 'legacy'.
I don't understand why the U.N. wants to ban my full-auto M60 model E4 that can shoot 850 rounds in a minute and a half. Why? I needs it for protection. I don't need suggested training. That training stuff is for pussies. I don't need guidelines. I can't read. It's only for the grace of God that I can type these words. I think it must be coming from my hands to your computer through the benevolence of Jesus.
Seriously I can't protect myself and my family with just any glock or S&W. Those things only shoot about 16 rounds in an extended clip. WTF! What if I decide to pull a Randy Weaver and hold up in my mountain house to avoid taxes or warrants? How am I supposed to fend off any revenoers or ATF agents?
Its retarded. Fred's retarded.
Fred is only running to make his wife happy.
Sounds like this is their boy. He seems to be more like Reagan than was originally apparent. Alzheimer's?
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How many times does this have to be said?
They don't care if they have the facts wrong. Giuliani is an example. He has a radio ad that says prostrate treatment are twice as effective here in the US as in England. His campaign was told that fact is wrong, but they're still using that ad.
The point is to get their conservative base excited and get them out to vote. Facts are not needed or wanted.
So, the correction is posted here. How many conservatives will see this? Less than 2%? So much for the correction.
His "fact" will be picked and repeated at conservative WEB sites and wing nut radio. Which is what they want.
Quit picking on half-dead-Fred
He's doing the best he can........
Note to democrats: stay away from gun control it will increase your chances of success.
Note to aziz: Gun control is just a wedge issue the Republicans use to scare people into voting for them. Don't fall for it. In America you're guns are safe.
Stupid, semi-unrelated question:
The far-right is all over Rudy for his three marriages, since it's not a good example to follow for a "moral" country. How come they aren't saying anything about this old guy and his disgustingly young wife? That can NOT be the image they want of their party! They already have a bunch of gays and pedophiles in Congress; do they really want a cradle robber and his trophy wife in the White House?
There's a rational explanation for the republican's approach to elections, the 'bullshit before facts', 'image is everything' technique.
It works!!
Because their base is the CrazyChristianFundamentalistEvangelicals, who are raised to believe in faith, not facts; fairy-tales, not science; myths, not reason; imaginary friends, not reality; make-believe, not actuality. Not just those born into the cults, but those who later lose their minds due to alcohol, drugs, mental insufficiency, and become 'Born-Again' boobs; all are the targets of the republican campaigners, some of them because they are cultists, themselves, some of them because they are cynical opportunists, but all of them must at least pretend to 'BELIEVE'.
And those candidates who secretly promise the most tax-breaks, grants, and faith-based contributions to the cults will energize the leaders and the cultists to 'spread the word' that Ignatz Giuliano, for example, is the '2nd, or 5th, or 18th Coming of Our Saviour, The Good Lord Jaysus Christos', wave some snakes in the air, spray some snake oil on the sheep, scare the sh*t out of them with the hell that is sure to come if they don't 'support the Church (read 'GOD'), and get out the vote.
For an Ignatz, just like they did the past two times.
Thompson needs to hit the showers. I wish Dick Wolf never hired this bum
why doesn't some call his boyfriend chris .. or should we say 'miss' matthews and have her give him a blowjob .. aqua velva style ... that might get him straight for a couple of minutes anyway ....
david blimmo @ 9:
That is simply not true. The language regarding a militia is prefatory not mandatory; national guard units did not exist at the time the Bill of Rights was ratified; and the language itself says "the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed" (emphasis added) not the states.
This "National Guard/State Right" argument has been thoroughly discredited by some of the most liberal constitutional law scholars in the nation including Professor Lawrence Tribe.
If you don't like the Second Amendment, fine - change it. But arguing that it is a state right when the text and history are clear it is an individual right doesn't hold water.
JasonS @ 16:
No, "islamofacism" is an invented myth. Giving George W. Bush and Blackwater a monopoly on arms is truly frightening (and pretty crazy).
You're all a bunch of latte sipping lefti loonies. At last you have a candidate with realistic convictions and strong moral...unfortunately it seems you lonnies rule the internet - there are a bunch of you on skewz.com as well.
Assaf @ 41:
Not just on the internet, fool. Your numbers in the nationwide public are down to 25% (and on the internet, most of those are at porn sites either looking at women they can never have or Googling Jeff Gannon).
Got all his fact wrong!!??? No shit??!!! Maybe ol pruneface can blame Barbara Eden too... We know he ain't going to cop to being responsible for his own cluelessness himself...He'll probably go the ol tried and true route of just saying the same b.s. over and over crossing his fingers that it will work sooner or later...
heheh.... good luck with that one Freddy... We're all just a little more cynical these days... Don't think the lie rinse repeat Rovian Program is going to fly anymore.... You sure you just don't want to skip on to the chase and just set yourself up some latenight infomercial contract... Say for facelift cream or something... This whole wantin to be prez thing??... That ain't gonna work out for ya bub...... JD
fred thompson is as fake as any other right-wingers out there. I mean rides around in pickup claiming I'm one of you. LoL... You have to be really stupid to buy that - I'm one of you crap..
If Fred Thompson had s bicycle horn he could channel Clarabell the Clown.
Looking at the photo of Thompson above, I can't help but wonder exactly what "old man noise" he was making at the precise instant. I'm guessing, "EhhhhhHHH?"
Fred, Fred, where's your cred?
Will you let me keep my bread?
FairTax, Yes! 'er FairTax, No!
Just another politico?
Hope for tax reform, I see,
Will be voting HUCKABEE!
Half dead Fred, the next face of the decaying republican party? Seems rather fitting.
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