Anyone Want To Help Make Rahm Accountable?
By Howie Klein Friday Nov 09, 2007 12:57pm 
Instead of a candidate today, Firedoglake is doing something different in the Blue America slot. We'll be discussing the Rahm Emanuel-Tom Tancredo alliance and how to deal with it. The leader of Illinois biggest immigrants' rights coalition (130 organizations), Josh Hoyt of the Illinois Coalition of Immgrant and Refugee Rights will be our guest. Many of us met him at Yearly Kos and know he's a dedicated fighter. Speaking with him for an hour on the phone just now made me certain that for those of us who want to make Emanuel feel accountable have a great ally in Josh.
We'll be starting at FDL at 2pm (EDT/11am PT).
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F Rahm for trying to get "cool points" with Dobbs
Don't worry George Dubya Bush is single handily destroying the Republican Party with astounding skill and effectiveness.
I'm so goddamn sick of this "incumbency racket" that allows DINO's like Rahm to keep their seats. What's it going to take to give him a real primary challenge in 2008?
Why don't you fight for respecting the rule of law in the U. S.? Hispanics are this election's evangelical christians, that's all. We've endured seven years of having the evangelicals dictate to us because they claim the United States is supposed to be a christian country. Now we have to listen to a bunch of foreign people who are in our country illegally dictating to us because they say the United States was supposed to be Mexican.
Get a clue, will ya?
He's destroying the Republican party on Republican party grounds. In other words, the republican party and its propaganda are left unchallenged, and they will win again in the right circumstances.
The rule of law is not God's word. It is made by men and it changes all the time.
We have to change the law to do what we think is right.
For you to talk about "the rule of law" means you have no will to change the status quo. You are the french guy who didn't even begin to resist. You are the american guy who doesn't even begin to say a word against the government. You are the one who lets bullshit happen and do nothing about it.
"Wrong Way" Rahm strikes again!
I tell you what I am going to do about it... I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT! This issue is entirely too complex to deal with in a "comprehensive" manner... We need to get a handle on our borders... We need to stop the influx of illegal aliens... And we need to do that now. When our borders are secure, we can turn our attention to dealing with the people who are here illegally... I'm sorry, but I don't buy big business' argument that the economy will collapse when they lose all these workers that have held down american wages and benefits for decades... When the over abundance of cheap labor disappears, business will need to pay better wages and provide better benefits to attract workers... Taaa daaa... Wage go up and so do benys... Personally, I don't feel much in the way of sympathy for these illegals who came here in violation of our immigration laws, who broke the law everyday they worked using someone elses SSN or who use emergency room medical services that they didn't pay for... ENFORCEMENT ONLY, ENFORCEMENT NOW, WHAT THE HELL ARE WE WAITING FOR? Close the border, severely penalize employers who knowingly hire illegals over citizens, don't allow guest workers to compete with americans for jobs, assist mexico in strengthening its economy, keep illegals off public assistance and pretty soon they'll be self-deporting themselves back to sunny mexico...
By far the worst thing that Rahm does is to appoint candidates for Congress that are right leaning Bush Dogs etc. I have heard that 25% of his constituents are Hispanic, what are the chances for turning that against him in the primary?
Rahm is a joke and represents all that is wrong with the current state of the Democrats.
Rahm isa d0uchebag @ 9:
Firedoglake is addressing this issue now.
Man, Rahm is such a frickin' toolbag. He is the last thing the Democratic Leadership needs.
For you to talk about "the rule of law" means you have no will to change the status quo. You are the french guy who didn't even begin to resist. You are the american guy who doesn't even begin to say a word against the government. You are the one who lets bullshit happen and do nothing about it.
This comment is just obtuse.
I remember walking home and finding a flyer by Rahm's 2006 Republican opponent. It accused him of going around and helping other Democrats win, but asked, "What is he doind for this district?" Nowhere in the flyer did it mention that he is the head of the DCCC, and its his job to help other Dems win. Deliberate deception from a filthy gop with no chance of winning anyway. It made me sick.
Make Rahm accountable? LOL.
Yeah, only if you deport AIPAC and the rest of the neocons-deceptocons out of the US.
No more wars for Israel.
No matter the subject, some idiot always connects it to an all-powerful International Jewish conspiracy. Just how does AIPAC relate to this story? Do you think they really care about domestic US immigration policy?
uncle @ 3:
You want to make him accountable, the person to support is Alan Augustson, who is the only other person running for the 5th Congressional District in Illinois. He is a candidate of the Illinois Green Party.
What about a Crooks and Liars "Green America" campaign to channel donations to Augustson? Nobody blue has the gumption to take him on--not even anyone "red." So support your Green candidates and work for real change in the corporate incumbency system! Or give to the Illinois Green Party to help build an accountable government.
Just in time for the Holidays, it's a new song for the season!
Kinda puts you in the mood for the holidays, doesn't it?
Now we have to listen to a bunch of foreign people who are in our country illegally dictating to us because they say the United States was supposed to be Mexican.
Look out...we're gonna need those "illegals" to fight the next war. Citizenship for service!
Bring 'em on.
(prior post is sarcastic, by the way, before I get accused of being Che or something)
littlehorn @ 6:
You are the one who says, 'It can't happen here...'
You are part of the 'Dead End' 24% who give aid and comfort to The Colossus of the CodPiece
I hate Rahm Emanual and Tancredo. I thought I'd never ever say it
but I don't hate Emanuel for this. Mocrates will not win without facing
up to this problem and taking action to enforce the law. Not knuckle-
dragging stupidity but directly putting a stop to what is an in-your-face
problem. We let oil rich countries neglect their own people.
There is a vast blind spot when it comes to crime and poverty
and there are people who know how to play the liberal mindset.
Vexed @ 8:
YO! Rambo!
How are we gonna close the border. Did ya ever think of that? We can't manage to control a single city in The MeatGrinder, not one, and you're runnin' around screamin', 'Close the border! Close the border!' It. Simply. Cannot. Be. Done.
On any practical basis, reality is not 24 Hours and we don't have the money, the manpower or the technical ability to 'close the border' whatever that might mean.
Reality is not subject to your, nor Lou Dobbs whim.
In the words of the ReichWing, 'Get over it.'
I'm a liberal, but I do not care about the rights of illegal aliens. I'm fine with closing the borders. It's the only thing I tolerate the Bush faction for.
Over at prisonplanet they have an article about FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, along with video of her speaking. The lady's a real patriot, I recommend you all check it out. It's under the commentary section, scroll down to get there.
(This comment isn't really off-topic, either, once you read and hear what she says).
I wonder why it is that so many people look at the immigration problem and blame it on "the people who break our laws and come here illegally" instead of where the real problem is, and that's with US.
WE (universal we, not selective we) won't demand that the corporations that are hiring illegals,(like Wal-mart, who was fined for it, and yet continues to use illegal workers throughout the country) start following the rules that are on the books for verifying a persons legal status to work. It is because WE are too busy worrying whether or not celebutarts are wearing underwear, watching internet porn, or being told what to think by the talking heads on television. WE don't read books and news anymore. WE don't want to think too hard for ourselves, so we allow people like Rahm Emmanuel and Hillary Clinton to tell us what WE really need.
It is true the Republicans want the BIG DADDY to come in and save us all from the scary stuff. It is also true the Democrats want MOMMY to come and make all our troubles better. Both these mass feelings imply that WE are children.
WE are not children, and the government is not our parent. WE are adults, and the government is our servant, and if WE don't use it to make our lives better and to serve our interests, corporations will, and have. The masses have always had to fight to keep their interests before the government, because they don't have a voice with the elites. The masses have been hypnotized and convinced that Corporations and Governments have their best interest at heart.
It looks like people are starting to wake up. I hope that when the mass awakening takes shape and form, that it is not so late that violence is the only way for US to get the attention we deserve as humans, and not as a cog in the machine.
FWIW, I'm a Democrat for closing borders and enforcing existing laws.
If someone has one or more links to an explanation why a pro-immigration position makes sense, I'd definitely examine it to try to understand.
How unfortunate that a movement to oust the scumbag disingenuous fraud Rahm Emmanuel would be tied to a specific policy like this. Rahm is a counterproductive fraud who cares about himself and nothing else. That's why he needs to go.
I am also in favor of greater and greater control of the borders.
But again, giving Rahm Emmanuel a little Joe Lieberman treatment would make me very happy. I will never forgive him and Carville for their decision to badmouth Howard Dean, the single reason I ever became a Democrat, immediately after a historic election win.
fuck
you
Rahm.
I don't know much about Mr. Emanuel, but there certainly are some rather disturbing claims made about him on various websites. Are they simply right-wing smears? Whoever is making them is going way beyong the usual partisan attacks.
Snowball @ 16:
AIPAC forced or influenced, if you will, the invasion of Iraq upon you and me through their lobbyists in Congress, White House, military industry and individual senators and representatives, each paid dearly. The war is one of the most expensive military adventures ever, only second to World War II. "Just how does AIPAC relate to this story?" If not for the war based on lies, the money would have been spent on border security, health care, education, roads, anti-flooding/fire solutions, green solutions, solar power, wind power, new oil refineries, maintenance and modernization of tunnels and bridges, rebuilding LA and so on. Forgive me, I happen to live in San Francisco Bay Area, and even tough my daily routine needs some slight modifications this week, surprisingly I still enjoyed my daily swim, even though the waters were polluted by the Korean oil tanker. With each passing day my beloved America is more and more dreamlike. The Dems in Congress working for us, can life get any better? Remember, the feel good attitude is the way to go!!
Rocker5150 @ 29:
He's done some disturbing things, Rocker5150, and they dont represent what's best for America.
Here is what a 'self-hating' Jew, me, has to say about Rahm Emanuel:
This is what Rahm Emanuel is about: "Open Borders Threaten Jewish Clout" -- The Forward.com. Steinlight, who wrote this article, is the senior policy analyst at the Center for Immigration Studies [a John Tanton funded and founded organization and major source for Lou Dobbs' anti-immigration stance] and former director of national affairs at the ultra-conservative American Jewish Committee.
Rahm Emanuel does not operate, or conduct himself, in the best interest of the USA. If you think for one moment that his position in the Dem Party is in your interest, or even remotely represents the Democratic Party, you are fooling yourself.
Trade Fights by John Nichols, April 1, 2002
As the son of a recent immigrant himself Emanuel is unaware of the history of this country; or if he is, he chooses not to recognize it. And he doesn't get called on the carpet for it because most Americans are unaware of it; frankly, most Americans are uneducated. The majority of Americans dont speak French, as I do, or Spanish, and therefore cannot read the histories of this country written by the people who discovered it. They are left to the English fictions of how this country came to be, written by the novelist and poet Nathaniel Hawthorne and Henry Wadsworth Longfellow. Or they believe Hollywood movies about such things as the Louisiana Purchase, which in fact was Spain helping us out by retroceding land back to France (11/30/1803) so Napoleon (12/20/1803) could sell it to Jefferson for 15 mill (12/30/1803). That happened 27 years after we became a country.
Immigration — and the Curse of the Black Legend -- by Tony Horwitz
The majority of this physical land was Spanish-owned for 300 of its 500 years: until 1803. Look at the map. The Spaniards may have been conquistadors, but there would be no cattle and no horses on this continent without them. The Wild West icons owe their inception to the Spaniards.
For those of you who are Jewish, as I am, let me tell you that no Jewish elements were introduced to America without Spain. The Jews kicked out of Spain in 1492 went first to the Netherlands then Curacao. From there, they populated the Americas. Sandra de Marchena, one of the original 12 Jewish families, created a database here.
This topic is about immigration and policies about immigration; you say we have to abide the rule of law.
I say if the rule of law is unjust and against human rights, we have to change the law. I say the immigration laws are unjust and we have to change them
Defending the law for the sake of defending laws is anti-democratic. We need to discuss the issue, not whether or not we should discuss it.
Immigrants are part of this country and deserve to be given rights. They work and live just like you do.
Bend over and grab her ankles RahmBob! We'uns here in the InnerNets is gonna....
Stik it in and break if off!
ReThug style!
You're fine with closing the borders. You know, when a rich nation closes its borders to poor nation, it looks to me like that rich nation is totally smug and anti-poor. Maybe you should change party, i'm just sayin'.
Whatever @ 27:
But this has blown into Mexican-hatred, Rocker5150. Of the 11.1 million illegals in 2005, about 6.75 were Mexican, the rest were from other countries.
The issue with Rahm Emanuel is that he pushed through NAFTA over broad bi-partisan objection and he's proud of it. Read about it here:
Trade Fights by John Nichols, April 1, 2002
AS A RESULT OF THAT, US firms went south destroying the mom and pop operations in Mexico and just when the Mexican population got used to it in the early part of the late 90s, paying about $2.22/hr, these firms again with the assistance of Rahm Emanuel upped and left Mexico for China where the wage was $.60. It nearly bankrupted Mexico and it almost bankrupted Goldman-Sachs but Emanuel got the US taxpayer to bail them out of their peso woes. A sea of people crossed the border in the effort to feed their families.
This man is a bad piece of business, and I say this as a former Israeli citizen and a Jew. If you want the real elephant in the room, check this out. Here's where Rahm is coming from; he doesn't give a shit about America: "Open Borders Threaten Jewish Clout" -- The Forward.com.
You might also be interested in this NYT essay: Immigration — and the Curse of the Black Legend -- by Tony Horwitz
A lot of racist liberals are gonna be adding more posts on this topic. They can continue to spread their anti-poor and anti-mexican propaganda. The problem is not domestic, it's an international problem.
Mexico is a poor country, thus mexican people try to get a better living in richer countries. Simple as that.
You can try to have harsher laws against the poor but they'll keep coming, and they'll keep trying, cause it's the best they can hope for.
And did i mention you racist guys make me completely sick ?
I really apologize for the double-posting. I get messages on my side that the post hasn't gone through and when i refresh I dont see it.
[Your posts were ending up in the spam filter and not 'despammed' tout de suite. I think I've fixed it now-Sitemonitor]
littlehorn @ 37:
I agree with you.
I have to break with party orthodoxy here. We need to send the illegals back home. Nobody wants them here dragging our wages down except businesses that rely on near slave labor. Don't help them. They will adjust to paying higher wages. A country full of illegal aliens also creates a working class that can't vote Democrat. For the love of decency, don't let that continue. Drivers licenses and a guest worker program for illegals are compromises that do nothing to solve problem of a non-voting working class. A path to citizenship? Sounds like a vicious bureaucratic nightmare waiting to happen to me. With voting Americans in the jobs reserved now for illegals, working conditions would improve, and maybe just maybe the labor unions would come back. We are on the wrong side of this. Will prices go up? Sure they will. What about the morality of the issue? It hardly applies. When someone sneaks into your house, you are justified in kicking him out, even if you find him amiably and diligently doing the dishes you have been letting pile up. Is it humane to make them go back to Mexico? Mexico has a very poor standard of living. Maybe if they could not count on us, they would do something to improve their own country, and they would be going back with some experience about how a first world country runs. Don't get me wrong here. I am not saying that illegals are even one of our biggest problems. I am saying, however, that people who are are against enforcement are getting scarcer because once we accomodate some massive influx and think ourselves humanitarians, we look and see there is another influx, and behind that another, and the line does not seem to end.
I would accept full amnesty for all, if that were an option, but we all know that will not happen. We could try enforcing labor laws and targeting employers for hiring illegals. Well, I think that would be a lot more difficult than deporting them all. The business community throws around too much political weight. The political consequences of enforcement? I don't have stats, but most of the Hispanics I have talked to about this are in favor of enforcement-only. I think we are being fooled by the business community on this one. Nobody likes having illegals crowding in in these numbers. Illegal aliens are unpopular now and they are getting more and more unpopular by the day even among Hispanics as they lower our workplace standards and wages and radically alter the character or our communities. We need to stop owning this issue. We need to stop following this pied piper. If we fight for illegals to stay, a proposition which is hard to get behind in itself, we should only fight for complete amnesty, not some lame compromise, so that our working class will always be able to vote... Democrat.
You know what needs to happen? Mexico need's to be made part of the States. Seriously. Make it another State, get rid of the border and impliment a minimum wage and workers rights. Post Army bases at key points and ESPECIALLY at the south end of the country to bottleneck the drugs coming from there. Good idea or bad idea?
And i thought the Repubican's were Arrogant.
Rahm it up your ASS Emanuel.
littlehorn @ 36:
And there it is-the racist label! for anyone with a differing point of view. When you want to deflect away from the issues just yell racist as shrilly as you can and everyone will all back down when what it is really is racism itself. This is why I don't care about anybody anymore.
Hareli- The things I've seen written about him are far more serious. Spaceknight is apparently aware of these particular allegations. If true, it is an enormous threat to National Security.
You know what needs to happen? Mexico need’s to be made part of the States. Good idea or bad idea?
Bad idea, for practical reasons.
Can you imagine trying to retrofit Mexico to meet US environmental, labor & infrastructural standards? We got bridges falling down, cities under water and states on fire here.
There's just no way we could meet our federally mandated obligations to a state.
BUT...
It is a good idea to partner with Mexico to improve their economy. It's the surest, most sustainable way to deal with illegal immigration.
You don't hear too many people complaining about all the illegal Canadians taking the good jobs.
Fuckin' kanuks.
Probably because there aren't 12 million of them in the United States. And why do people think Mexico is a poor country? They have an abundance of natural resources and could very easily take care of their own people. Why do you suppose that is?
The fact that the GOP's illegal immigration "platform" blew up in their faces, cost them the Hispanic vote, and helped Dems win seats (recently in Virginia) is immaterial. Rahm WILL reach out to the xenophobes in the GOP no matter what the bloggosphere and the polls say. Rahm WILL screw the liberal base of the party no matter what the polls say. He will be nice to the Republicans, even though they despise him through to his very soul. He will reach out to them, even if they give him the finger and tell him to go fuck himself and die.
Rahm's motto is the Republicans are always right, the liberals are always wrong, no matter what the American people think. Rahm would rather die with a Republican by his side than a Democrat.
Rahm is an extremely stupid, moronic individual who either can't read, doesn't want to read, or ignores reality to worship at the altar of the GOP who hate his fucking guts anyway. A true example of an insane, asinine politician who has no grasp of reality.
No more illegals. For their own good and ours. Stop the exploitation now. Illegal aliens hurts our ability to accept and help LEGAL immigrants. It is OUR responsibility to care for them, teach them to speak English so they aren't discriminated and abused in the work force. Make sure they know the importance of voting. Provide them legal health care opportunities, treat them equally under the law (as they are legal). Illegal aliens undermine ALL of this. Come into my house through the open front door rather than breaking into my bedroom window. Paying income and corporate tax would be appreciated as well.
Fix Mexico rather than breaking it. STOP and regulate Big Agriculture -- this is the big one. The dumping of U.S. corn KILLED Mexican farmers a while ago, and made them dependent. Help raise the standard of living there rather than, wink-wink turning the head while Republican business owners draw them across the border for pennies a day. Do this and you can cut the trillion dollar drug war IN HALF. The U.S. has always been manipulating Mexican policies for good or ill. It is time for this to stop.
Take care of the children born in this country. I don't care how they got here, if their parents are illegal, find a way to set that family on the right path. Call it Amnesty, call it a huge out of proportion fine, whatever. However, if you cannot or are unwilling to get on that path, and have no children born on this soil, we can and should gently deport as necessary. Because...
NO 2ND CLASS CITIZENS IN THE UNITED STATES. I simply CANNOT believe that people would even consider this! No, we DON'T need lifetime indentured servants here under some sort of Mexican Pseudo-slave visa. That is NOT what we are about. Are you visiting? Great, have fun then go home. But if you are a citizen, then dammit you are a CITIZEN. With all the rights and opportunities accorded to you whether you are black, Mexican, or Martian. To my mind, the very idea that we would implement a tiered society willingly is as de-humanizing, or MORESO, than the fact that we even consider legalizing the practice of torture.
I think of my views these days as progressive and somewhat libertarian, but clearly something must be done. There is no going back from the WTO, megacorps, and the "global village" for some time (till the world population drops significantly). We must open our eyes and do what is best for the dignity of our fellow human beings now AND in the long term. Uncontrolled immigration clearly no longer benefits anyone but a handful (of Americans and lucky Mexicans) at the expense of the rest. Instead of spending all of our money killing Iraqis, we could and should help heal our sister Mexico, so that she need not bleed onto us anymore.
I dislike Rahm. Who knows what he stands for. But we need some sort of policy that addresses the above (from someone other than Rahm and Tancredo).
It's funny, that Rx symbol behind him means 'retrograde' in astronomical terms.
jon @ 46:
Because that wealth is concentrated in the hands of a few dozen kleptocrats and criminals? You might want to pay attention to how Mexico has really "worked" all these years...
With the lower 40% of Americans -- yes, almost half -- controls ONLY 1% of the wealth in this country.
The richest 1% control over 40% of the wealth, again almost half of all wealth in America. We haven't seen numbers like that since people were wandering around on horses in streets filled with shit in this country. But hey, they feed you Brittany and trans-fats, so what do you care, right?
And now that in the past few years, "one dollar equals one vote", guess who runs the show? So since we are actually heading towards the place Mexico is trying to struggle out of, you might not want to be so smug.
Heretic @ 40:
You need to do a lot more dispassionate reading.
Rocker5150 @ 44:
Can you link?
I say we do the Mo' Bettah Democrat thing to Rahm.
It's time for Rahm to go.
A few others, too, but Rahm is good to start with...
A.Citizen @ 23:
Yo Pedro: Says who? We are able to muster the manpower and the financial resources to send 130,000 americans half way around the world with all their fighting gear and spend over 2 million dollars a day to keep them there... Closing our border seems like a small matter when compared to that feat... You have been brainwashed by big business spin... They have a vested interest in keeping the steady supply of illegal coming and staying here indefinitely... That's why the National Chamber of Commerce spends millions on lobbying for the most permissive immigration legislation possible... No we can do this. We can also develop a reliable workplace enforcement program... BUT, there are tremendous financial forces greasing the wheels to go in the other direction... Working people should not be duped, like you were, by these nonsensical arguments regarding what is and is not possible... We sent people to the moon, we have robots walking the surface of Mars and we can keep illegal aliens from crossing the border.
roz @ 53:
I couldn't agree with you more. This man is dangerous, and he's profoundly arrogant. His belief is that Americans are too stupid to notice what he's doing. Further, that he has the right to act unilaterally. This will probably border on conspiracy theory to most of you, but it is my belief that the Mossad is helping him to set up congressmen to protect his way up the ladder. He can get certain congressmen and women to vote his way because of confidential info he has on them. This comes from something my Dad heard in Haifa from a driver (chauffeur) long-time friend of his who drives one of the Knesset bigwigs. All I can say. But I will say this much: if he was doing this in Israel to Israelis, he'd be hanged.
Sure!
Let's find a way to set him up, bring him up on charges and make him resign!
Just kidding, but not too much.
He really does need to go, he's a visible symptom of all that is wrong with the Dems right now.
It is absolutely startling to see you mention that. Without giving any particular links, I'll just say that what I have read on numerous sites would seem to back that up.
jon @ 43:
Huh hello ? Those guys say that mexicans have to go back home, that they have to be DEPORTED. How can you say this without being a racist ?
You're blaming a whole race for something it's innocent for. I don't know about you Jon, but to me it sounds racist. And when I think about it, it is racist. Poor people go to richer countries to have better lives. It's not about them being mexicans, it's about them being from Mexico.
You would think people here know that there are policies making Mexico poorer and thus driving Mexicans to come over here. But i guess it's the rule of LAW.
AND YOU HAVE TO OBEY THE LAW. THE LAW IS YOUR MASTER. OBEY IT.
Or so they say.
Yea. Those evangelicals had the guts to get together, spread their propaganda, and ultimately influence Washington and have legislation pass to make things right (in their view). How dare they use the democracy to advance their agenda. They should have done nothing.
Some people here seem to believe that citizenship is about being a good and law-abiding spectator.
Citizenship is not about that. It's about having YOUR ideals and standing up for them, it's about questioning the authority, questioning the laws, it's about passing legislation.
I think evangelicals are nuts and extremely dishonest. But trying to pass legislation which sounds right to their ears is nothing but democracy at work.
If you don't think evangelicals should be given a right to change legislation, you are anti-democracy.
If you think evangelicals are wrong as well as the changes they're bringing, well hello ! Move your butt, get some action and work against them, instead of complaining about the use of democracy.
I'd chip in for a huge billboard to call Rahm out in his home territory.
I'd suggest wording, bult what I thought of to follow "lying deceitful sack of...' hmm, let's see. We can do better than that.
"Bad advice.
Bad choices.
Cost the Dems plenty of Congressional seats in 2006 by backing the wrong candidates.
Currently in bed with one of the biggest racists in Congress planning to hurt people of color.
Latinos and others: Just Say No to Rahm."
Some details may be wrong, but you get the drift.
eastcoasty @ 61:
Nice, count me in.
I can cough up a C note for that.
Symes @ 62:
So would I. This guy is baaaaad for America. One more reason why I am anti-Clinton, because she has no choice but to elevate him. He will be part of her inner circle in the WH if she gets elected. That edict went with the donations. And that I know for certain. Little birdie. Big mouth.
Is it me, or does that guy Rahm look like a Class A slimebag?
Trust me, it's not you.
So when is the specialist coming exactly ? Cause i'm sick of all the "aliens go home".
Okay, i just understood the principle. Discussion is over at firedoglake, not here. *sigh*
The country has obviously taken a sharp turn to the left, yet the Dumb-ass-crats are all lining up to give us republican-lite "DLC flavor" once again.
These people cannot possibly be this clueless. They have simply sold-out! Plus, in a two party system, they know that after Bush's disastrous reign, they could run a dog-turd and win against most repukes.
The only way to make Rahm Emanual accountable is to vote him out of office. Who from his district wants to run against him and where do I send you money?
Symes @ 62:
Now to find the nice enterprising person or group that's local and can do this. I'll bet a LOT of folks around the country (imagine the supporters of the woman Duckworth pushed off the ticket!) would truly enjoy funding such a thing.
Rahm reminds me of Ryan Seacrest in more ways than one.
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