Howard Kurtz channels Bill O'Reilly: Accuses MSNBC of "moving Left"
By John Amato Sunday Nov 11, 2007 5:45pm
CNN's Howard Kurtz accused MSNBC of going "left" because they dared to offer Rosie O'Donnell a job. He picks up on a theme that Bill O'Reilly promotes daily because he's upset at Keith Olbermann for calling him out on his inaccuracies and refuses to name him. This is nothing new for Howard. He hasn't found a right wing talking point that he doesn't embrace. Here's Howie:
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KURTZ: Let me show you a little bit on this question that kind of sparked a debate about whether or not MSNBC is moving to the left. Let me show you a little bit of what you get in prime-time MSNBC, followed by Rosie O'Donnell on her blog, a video of her talking about the deal that fell apart.
Who has started a debate about this, Howard? Only Bill O'Reilly and the Malkinites. If a Presidency has started an immoral war, illegally spied on Americans, incorporated torture as national policy (and many more atrocities against the Constitution)---why does it make MSNBC a lefty for pointing "facts" out that are NEWS instead of spinning it?
Thankfully, Jennifer Pozner of Women in Media and News was on. She had to set him straight on this idiocy and actually Howie cut her off (just like BillO) because she destroyed his talking point. Watch him defend Morning Joe because he's a Republican and should have opinions, but seems to have forgotten that Phil Donohue got FIRED for being against the Iraq invasion.
POZNER: You know what? I have to say, having done commentary on FOX News a number of times and having done Joe Scarborough's show on MSNBC, I've always had a tougher time from Scarborough. He struck me as the single-most conservative host of any show I've ever done, and I've been on "O'Reilly" and I've been on "Hannity & Colmes."
KURTZ: But what's wrong with that. It's Scarborough's...
POZNER: No, no, no. It's...
KURTZ: Hold it. It's Scarborough's job to be opinionated.
POZNER: Right. Right. Right.
KURTZ: He's a former Republican congressman.
POZNER: Yes. But when I'm saying is it's disingenuous to say MSNBC is tilting left when the majority of the people who host shows on MSNBC are either centrists or conservative.
Olbermann is a liberal host, but he doesn't necessarily promote liberal candidates or promote liberal projects. The one single show that was hosted by an actual person who called himself a leftist and had liberal and progressive guests and such was Phil Donahue's show, and it was cancelled in the run-up to the Iraq war...
KURTZ: Right, exactly.
POZNER: ... because they said from a memo from the top down they didn't want to provide an antiwar face for MSNBC.
KURTZ: OK. I've got to cut in here.
POZNER: It's about money. It's not about ideology.
KURTZ: I've got to cut in here. I want to get to Ray Richmond.
And let's look at what Howard's opinion is on FOX News' embrace of the Republican party while trying to tell everyone that they are the only "fair and balanced" network for news.
KURTZ: I think the argument that I’ve heard Olbermann make in the past about Fox News — it’s not an argument that I embrace — is that, because it poses as a news organization and puts out dangerous misinformation –
BECK: But that’s what he’s doing!
KURTZ: – and is — is a cheerleader for the Bush administration, that it’s misinforming our society. But you know what?
BECK: Howard –
KURTZ: They’re entitled to do that.
Howard, you ignorant slut! They are not entitled to do it if they want to be considered a f*&King news organization. What planet are you living on? Please, just stop masquerading as a media critic. You're entitled to your opinions also, but get honest.
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Of course, what's really interesting in all of this is that these anchors comment on "moving left" as if it were some kind of crime. Judging from what we've seen of the current right wing administration, Americans should start to realize that it's the right that's criminally inclined.
Kurtz might be the most bland personality on news-type shows today. He's got to do something to distinguish himself, and being an also-ran Bill-O seems to be the most his milquetoast mind can creatively conjure. Poor Howard, you really are a boring putz.
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...and by the way, the last time I checked, saying Fox News is entitled to be "a cheerleader for the Bush administration" while at the same time making up a "debate" about MSNBC tilting left is pretty much the encyclopedia definition of double standard. When is the public finally going to realize this and just turn off the TV? Because really, that's the only way we're going to get these idiots off the airwaves.
Ditto to what kaT said in comment #2. Is it a sin or a crime to have a different point of view than the bush ass kissers? I know they wish it were, but it isn't yet.
On the left we have Keith. That's it. Wouldn't it be fair and balanced to allow us a couple more?
There is one leftist talker on cable news and the reich-wingers have a hissy fit about it. What pathetic wimps.
This idiot talks out of both sides of his mouth. On one hand, he says it "gives [him] pause" to see MSNBC moving left (as he sees it), but he thinks Conservatives are "supposed to be opinionated." I guess it's only a bad thing when it's Liberals. When even Michael Medved disagrees with you, you know you've gone over the cliff.
Howie shows two clips as "proof" that MSNBC is "left"? He must be looking for a job at Faux.
They have host like BillO, Tucker, Beck and most of the time Chris Matthews and now Morning Joe. Seems a little weighted to the right on cable talk shows to me. Tucker and Mathews are on MSNBC. So if the repubs can have two, why can't we? Personally I wouldn't care to watch Rosie, but there are a lot of others I sure would like to see. Rachael being number 1.
Sweet Jesus,
I did hear that right. What a sorry goof is Howard Kurtz. Just brimming with ideas of journalistic integrity. CNN is not center nor rightwing, it's done went it over the edge putting on this guy and Beck and Grace and the other wingnut crazies.
regarding 'morning joe' (and also back when imus was on), when they have the close-ups on the faces of the upcoming guests, why are they mostly male and invariably white ??
What a bedwetting putz.
As some more clever people have been starting to say, in place of, "This...is CNN.":
"This IS CNN."
haKKKie kurtz is remembering the lawsuit won that says they have no obligation to tell the truth.
(cue jingle music)
Things are bad now but could be worse:
You could be married to Howard Kurtz!
He puts the "utz" in "putz!"
++++
Crap. This idiot [Kurtz] is all over the place pimping his book, and his co-conspirators in the media are welcoming him in this endeavor.
Slightly OT: yesterday I was listening to CNN [trapped in an airport waiting room; no choice; better than FOX], and some news-reader was interviewing some guy [Gen. Honore] who'd served in the National Guard after Katrina and some other places. The news-reader said something about "opponents of the war protesting at vets' funerals," "attacking vets when they came home," and then he & the General moaned about people "not separating their political beliefs yada, yada."
I wanted to throw something at the tv and shout "the folks protesting at vets' funerals are the right-wing, anti-gay idiots[Rev. Phelps], you nimrod!!!"
It's infuriating that they get away with this ignorance & propaganda.
haKKKie has an obvious conflict of interest vis-a-vis his wife being a repug operative, but then again, cnn also has glenn beck.
Mauimom @ 15:
I remember the 'spit in the vets' face rumor that persists in some places to this day. lies they just won't let die.
What I KNOW FOR SURE IS THAT, HARDBALL AND TIM RUSSETT NEED TO BE MOVED TO THE FOX NOISE CHANNEL AND PLACED IN BETWEEN HANNITY AND O'RILEY.
GEEZ HARDBALL IS AN HOUR LONG CAMPAIGN FOR BARAQ AND TRASHING HILLARY NOT THAT I AM FOR HILLARY BUT I GET SICK OF THE TRASHING BY MATTHEWS. HE DOESN'T SHUT UP. SEEMS HE IS OBSESSED WITH HER.
So it's ok if they 'move right.' I never hear this pack of rats' arseholes howling about Fox 'News' or its ilk.
STFU Kurtz. You suck. And not in a good way.
Let's see, NBC is owned by General Electric.
General Electric is the 2nd biggest conglomerate in the world.
General Electric is the largest military contractor in the world.
General Electric paid 4 billion dollars for NBC in 1886.
General Electric is in business to make money.
While the business ads may say, "G.E., we bring good things to life." the truth is General Electric makes most of their money killing people.
NBC is a cheerleader for the war and a good investment for G.E.
beltway bumpkins like Kurtz think everything Fox says is "the gospel"
Put Howard Kurtz in hot mug of hot water, let steep for ten minutes.
Enjoy a delicious cup of douchebag tea.
-The Partisan Chef
This week Howie will also begin his coverage on the "war on x-mas".
howard should be off the air, his lips are so brown from sucking up to bush's ass not to mention the spoon he feeds himself with from billo's butt.
Nah. It's just that he's drifting to the right.
and people listen to Kurtz when getting their information about figures such as Chavez why? This is the same everywhere in the world. The media, owned by big business, is on a different planet than you and I. Watch them like you would a kids tv show.
You know, on the surface it sounds like Medved was trying to be reasonable, and maybe he was, but the truth is we don't need a Left news network and a Right newsnetwork battling for viewers and resorting to propaganda to "catapult" the message. We need news networks to report THE NEWS, without bias and without agenda.
Yeah, and while I am at it, I am also going to wish for a pony.
Kurtz is a douchebag. I think he married that cute little brain trust that helped Arnie become gov. of California via the Gray Davis recall. Frank Luntz and the usual suspects (Rove behind the scenes) were scampering through Orange County (Repug heaven) doing poll groups to see which Goebbels' like slogans would "work" on the oh, so trusting populace. Anyway, Howie isn't the brightest bulb in any case. He is only slightly more thoughtful/articulate than Bush.
Unfortunately, Faux Noise can distort and lie about what they present in the form of
"News". A Fed. court in Florida in 2004 upheld an appeal by Faux Noise as to it's
lst Amendment rights and rjled that even tho Faux admits it "distorts and lies" in its
broadcasts, such a right IS permissable. And for your information, the other MAJOR
news(?) stations filed an Amicus brief, supporting Fox in it's position, so that should
tell you something about ALL MSM outlets..."fair and balanced" my ass..they are all
in the same bed together, therefore, it is wise to disregard and discount ALL of the
MSM.
WOW ... !!! ... All this happening during the Writers Strike? Damn, this is some of the best joke material we get.
#30: word should be "ruled" in the third line...
It's too bad few people pick up on this kind of thing and stop tuning into shows that do nothing bu harm to the political discourse. However, it's damn funny.
Can You Believe This Guy
What Howard Krutz is attempting to do is noting more then propaganda. It is framing questions, limiting responses, and in the end, leaving the viewer with Krutz's resolve. I am so tired of it, I can spit.
All day long, twenty four seven, all you get from the cable networks is propaganda. The best example of this is hour long shows they have putting Hillary Clinton down. That is all the media is up to these days. How far will they go to crate a falsehood?
"Plantgate," the new attempt to bring down Hillary's momentum, is nothing more then a staffer saying to a youg person, "if you have a concern about the environment, ask her what she plans to do concerning the environment." How this got put into the category of planting someone in the audience is beyond me. Yet, this is what cable news, of late,has resorted to. Cheap attempts to manipulate the Democratic Party is a far cry from "fair and balance" news.
Shift boating Hillary Clinton is the current conservative concerted effort to divide the Democratic Party, while forcing Barack Obama down our throats. You need only evaluate the time spend on "the Chris Matthews show," "the Situation Room," and "the Tucker Carlson show" to see the excessive effort to bring Clinton down. The conservatives have resorted to trying to change who the Democratic "front runner" is. I hope it backfires and slaps them in the face.
Right now, there is no network you can trust to bring you decent coverage of any event in the political theater. If there is one, let me know.
Joseph
Kurtz is a dinosaur trying climb his way back on top of the food chain. He's not a journalist he's opinion. Being called out on your opinion is part of the territory. If he can't hack it, we need more Walmart greeters. Notice he wouldn't go after KO because he knows he'd get his ass handed to him so he attacks MSNBC. Kurtz, Beck, put their ratings together and they still couldn't climb out of the cellar.
Joseph @ 34:
Your comments and observations are totally accurate. We, the viewing public, are puppets
being used by ALL of the MSM, so as I said above in #30, NONE of them are worth the
weight of one piece of toilet paper...and should be avoided; the best way to do so is to
see who the advertisers/sponsers of these "news" shows are, contact them and inform them
you are boycotting their products.
I have found only one TV newscast that provides "decent coverage"; that being Democracy
Now; but it is,of course, an alternative news outlet and can be found only on a limited
basis. Also, Bill Moyer's Journal, on PBS, once weekly(on Friday nite I believe) is worthwhile.
Greg @ 35:
Indeed, I am usually concerned when I interact with plenty of people who do not know the distinction. Editorials now pass as news pieces, and it is scary.
Also, a lot of these so called journalists need to check their degrees. It is says "communications" sorry no dice, you are not a journalist.
Moving left would probably put them somewhere near the center. Since Barry Goldwater would be an America hating leftist by today's media (particularly cable news) standard.
Dont you just love the way they hiss the words "liberal" and "the left", it reminds of when the red scare media would say "reds" and "the communists".
They've been saying that the media is biased toward the left for years. Now they are moving left? Seem like we better bring back the fairness doctrine to make sure everything is on the up and up.
So we're back to 'It's ok if Republicans/Conservatives do it."
What a fucking tool.
Opinions are like assholes. And so is Howard Kurtz.
Left/ right. it all part of the plan of corporations.
they contaminate the news so it is not trust worthy with a Right bias. Then they claim the other corporate networks are un-trust worthy because of a supposed Left bias. facts become trumped by opinions. And thus all neutral analysis is contaminated. Once the general public accepts that as the way things are, the very corporations and who contaminated to begin with win and society, and the public well being loses.
Howard Kurtzy.
Kurtzy to the fucking right on every occasion.
I am sooooo tired of the trashing hillary. If i want to vote for obama i will do it, but please stop the shoving him in my face. He is the only one to have air time, and i understand that he will not make himself available for questions and answers. Not what he demands of hillary. He is lucky he wasn't in the senate when they had to decide on iraq. Thats all that has saved him. He wasn't there, now he is missing the important votes. Why aren't they calling him on it. Smells like a free ride to me.
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Let's not forget that KO isn't "left." That's a bullshit distinction by the people who made up the need for "balance." Everything doesn't have to be right or left, or as I prefer to frame it, backwards and forwards. Oftentimes there is fact vs. fiction, and KO just deals in fact.
Comparing Olbermann's Countdown to Fox News is like apples to oranges. There's a difference between offering commentary from a political point of view versus pretending to be a news organization while actually disseminating propaganda.
"Tilting left" means allowing ANY commentary that is not overtly fascist. If you broadcast 23 hours of White House stenography and 1 hour of facts, you are "tilting left".
What a screwed up media we have.
Jennifer was incredible, she said it best and right at his stupid face. He had to cut away there, he couldn't keep up with her on a discussion of composting.
ckerst @ 40:
Oh, I know- I love that. They shout and scream about the "liberal media", then refuse to talk about the Fairness Doctrine and do everything they can to allow big media to consolidate even more. If it were really so liberal, I would think they'd be on the opposite side of both those issues.
BROCK,BETTY @ 45:
The other Democratic hopeful have been so blinded by the media's attempts to fracture their Party. John Edwards and Barack Obama only see their own interest at hand, so they have become, in a sense, become cohorts in the same "swift boating" that characterized the John Kerry campaign. However, your comments are proof not everyone is fooled by this form of manipulation. I am not a Hillary supported but I see what they are doing to her, and at the same time, the Democratic chances to capture the WH in 2008. I wish there was some way to expose the conservative media while they in the process of doing what they think they are doing. The Democrats need a counter; a very complexed counter to the manipulation being used to bring them down.
Joseph
America has the most rightwing media since Franco. Americans actually believe they have a free press. I suppose some in the former Soviet Union thought there press was free as well.
This whole concept of 'objective journalism' is nonsense: the very idea allows corporations to control the parameters of what is discuss-able. Notice how all mainstream media 'criticism' (if you could call it that) revolves around defining the undefinable 'center.' 'MSNBC is moving left!' oh fucking bullshit. If the US media is leftist it's the sorriest bunch of leftists ever.
This entire project should be abandoned, instead we would simply have the commie newspaper, the labor newspaper, the facist paper, the socialist paper and the rich asshole newspaper.
i keep watching hardball and all a hear from chris is how evil sen. clinton is. i thought i was watching faux news for a while. i am not a fan of clinton, but hardball is just so anti-clinton. too bad keith can't or won't name matthews wrost person in the word.
OF COURRRRRRRRSE! CNN is drooling at the thought of MSNBC getting a leftie reputation. If FNC has a rightie reputation and MSNBC has a leftie reputation, where does that leave CNN? With the "Real" news, of course!
CNN is fucking CLUELESS! Worst news EVER!
CNN would do well to do the goddamned NEWS and stay away from losers like Glenn Beck. I mean, WTF is that? CNN should be a place for NEWS!
fair and square @ 54:
You are absolutely right. I won't watch Hardball anymore because of it. Matthews has a problem with women in general, and Clinton in particular. The Daily Howler is a GREAT watchdog Hardball on this issue if you haven't been there.
http://www.dailyhowler.com
Well, let's see, we have Scarborough Country, which is clearly on the right. If anything, we might hope these networks will move more to the center by giving fair representation to more progressive view points. The problem is that righties can't tolerate alternate points of view. They want it their way all the time or they start screaming foul.
Truth is stranger than fiction. If the consequences weren't so serious, I'd laugh. The Clownact Noise Network is questioning the intergrity of another news outlet? This reichwing propaganda outlet?!? Olbermann is the sole redeeming virtue that MSNBC/NBC has, all the rest of MS/NBC/NBC being similar reichwing lies and propaganda, and CNN begrudges them a single journalist?!?
Make no mistake about it, CNN's real message and premise is that it's an intolerable breach to practice integrity-based journalism or speak truth to power or even tell the truth. Could it be that Time/Warner/CNN understands that with 6 corporate conglomerates(News Corp, CBS Corp, Disney, GE, Time/Warner and Viacom) of which only 5 do news(Viacom does not), plus CPB/NPR that the control of information is exercised by 6 people, and if only one breaks with the cartel's unified message of propaganda that the whole structure of manipulative lies could fall? A message to Jeff Immelt of GE to get with the information cartel's program?
Interesting.
The media disgusts me. There is no difference between CNN, MSNBC, and Fox. They're all lazy, flashy, edutainment bullshit that skirts real issues and neglecting to report on them, in lieu of running 3 interrupted hours of the latest O.J. Simpson trial. Olbermann is good, but saying MSNBC "speaks truth to power" is as fucking laughable as saying it's run by "leftists" or is "moving left."
Hype-Jersey @ 55:
Once A Point In Time
Once, CNN was one of the best news network in the business. Somehow, with the successes of Fox News, they got the "half baked" idea bias news is more profitable then telling the truth. Today, CNN, like the competition, has become news entertainers. Yes, in the interest of money, they have become news brokers for the extreme right-wing conservative ideology. CNN, and MSNBC will tell it how the conservatives want to hear it not how it is.
CNN deserves to become the worst in news and so does any network who work for the sole interest of slanted news. You have got to stand for something if you want to be something. CNN stands for nothing.
Joseph
Joseph @ 60:
Joesph - Ahhhhhhhhhh. You took me to a trip down memory lane. Yes, I am old enough to remember when CNN was an actual news channel. It was all news, all the time. They didn't have these, "opinion" shows. If you saw it on CNN, then it was true.
You're right - CNN absolutely deserves to go out of business. They took our trust in them and betrayed us, more than any other station. I dislike CNN more than FNC. At least everybody knows FNC is full of shit.
Any news organization that doesn't propagandize goose step to the Bush Regime is moving left to these Kristol Lite types.
Wow, my comment was poorly worded. But yeah... the news media = crappy.
When everything that is not to the right of Ghengis Khan is considered "left," of course things are moving to the left.
This is not something we should be ashamed of or afraid of. What have liberals or "the left" given America?
-Civil rights act
-Woman's suffrage
-Child Labor laws
-the G.I. Bill
-Social Security
-the Peace Corps
That's just a smattering.
Conversely, what have conservatives given us? Better yet, what have neo-cons given us (aside from a big ol' bleeding hole in my stomach and a much greater sense of appreciation of the liberties we used to have)?
Hey Howie. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..
Brian Williams and Tim Russert did a hatchet job on Hillary at the debate. Scarborough is on her case every day. Matthews is a bold faced liar about Clinton and the Democrats. Tucker is totally Republican. Oh, did I fail to mention, NBC and MSNBC sign their damn paychecks. So Kurtz shove it up your posterior !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"They’re entitled to do that." So Fox can do that but MSNBC can't, even though Tucker and Scarborough on there? Are you aware of what you are saying Howard? This is such a double standard it's beyond belief.
Jesse @ 59:
I was speaking of Olbermann speaking truth to power, not MSNBC. I'm willing to bet, in fact, that there is a large faction at MSNBC who would do anything they could to get him fired, because he is obviously not towing the company line. Of course there's no difference between these propaganda outlets. Regardless, the point I was trying to make is that journalism is apparently a crime, whether it's done by a "rogue" like Olbermann or whether it is done because that's the way that any network might - God forbid - choose to conduct its business.
What a friggin' arrogant little weasel.
At least it's possible for MSNBC to move left, as there is no possibility for Fox to move to the right
groucho @ 49:
ED ZACHARY!!!!!!!!
Did you really write "you ignorant slut!" about someone?
That's really raising the level of discourse.
davejoch @ 72:
Actually, where people like Kurtz are concerned, it is raising the level of discourse-to heights which they cannot hope to scale.
BTW, ever heard of humour? You might try it some time...
:lol:
Joseph @ 51:
Hillary is the only Dem that Juliana could beat in the repug polls last year, so the MSM wants to paint her as frontrunner than 'Gore' her like they did Al in 2000. she don't tip, she plays the gender card, she's too this, she's too that! And we don't even have an official candidate yet. phew!
Kurtz is a prime example of why the American people have an uphill battle to understand what's going on today. Since his work appears in both the Washington Post and on CNN, he appears to be a neutral source of opinion and observation. But he is, in fact, a shill for the Republican party and its right-wing conservative base. He'd be a better fit on Fox News since it's clear that it's a just publicity outlet for the GOP - not a legitimate news organization.
ronhohn @ 70:
what KKKurtz didn't cover is that Obie pummelled O'LIElly and dropped BO's audiance by 40% or better while more than doubling his own audience and viewer share. that translates to revenue and commercials. there is MONEY to having a leftie on the tv machine.
my own guess is that the rosie deal fell through because they tried to control her operating parameters, such as sidekick, guest mix and the like.
Kurtz has become even more conservative since his relationship/marriage with Republican fixer Sheri Annis http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/000720.html .
He was never great but now he's despicable...another payola pundit.
Here's a scary/funny article (note the Cokie Roberts entry) from the Washintonian magazine, "Journalists' Secret Lives": http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/5441.html
The mainstream media is the enemy of the progressive left. Do beleive me? Witness it for yourself.
Ive been saying this for 3 decades.
Matthews better figure it out.
He's about to have to polish tories tools to get a paycheck.
Same with Tucker.
Or should I say F*cker?
We hate you Beltway liars.
im really amazed by him,, how can the post keep him around? especially as a MEDIA critic, when he is such a total asswipe with his critiques..
howie kurtz the putz dipshitz crozzdrezzing Republicanz.
Kurtz has his moments, but generally provides the conservative blog roundup. Medved's presence is proof it's not a serious show.
fair and square @ 54:
Wow are you thinking the same way I am. I really think they should take Chris Mathews and Mr Russett and transfer them to the Faux noise channel, in between O'Riley and Hannity. I hope she comes out swinging at this next debate and really shows them what children at play looks like. I am not voting for Clinton but to my mind this stuff is over the top for a primary election. I agree with Richardson in the last debate when he told those two children that were in over their heads. You can see the inexperience in them.
Obama seems to pick up on some of her answers and richochet 's them. I think she knows it by the smile on her face. Thanks for listening
Hype-Jersey @ 61:
I use to watch CNN but with the arrival of Mr liar himself Lou Dobbs I have not bothered. I HEARD 60 mins interview him this past year LESLIE Stahl she gave his credentials as a registered Republican, sooooo which is it . Now I hear him say I don't have a dog in this fight. He drove me nuts with the immigration thing. My thing about the immigration thing is ok its broke so why won't the republicans let it be fixed? Hey MR Dobbs why do you always disagree with everything they do? Is it because you don't really want anything done until you get Mr Bloomberg elected, I hope your lil plan fails, I hope more people than me see thru you.
I would like to see more balance on news networks. Giving comedienne Rosie O'Donell a job isn't the way to do it. Is she a journalist? No. Is she an expert on anything newsworthy? No. Find someone who is.
So who thinks Kurtz is relevant? Not me. With the exception of Keith Olbermann, all of MSNBC is republican! Always has been, always will be.
I'll vote for Rachael. America needs her.
Kurtz is a douchebag. Let us all sing it from the rooftops.
You're a douchebag, Kurtz. You're a douchebag.
You're a douchebag, Kurtz. You're a douchebag.
You claim to be objective, but you're really just defective...
You're a douchebag, Kurtz. You're a douchebag.
Robin Says:
I would like to see more balance on news networks. Giving comedienne Rosie O’Donell a job isn’t the way to do it. Is she a journalist? No. Is she an expert on anything newsworthy? No. Find someone who is.
Johnny Carson wasn't a journalist. Think before you speak.
AH, Kurtz, yet another reason why I must occupy myself with meaningful activities during AAR's 9-noon time slot with the IDIOT LIONEL...he's a worshipper at the feet of Kurtz (just had him on for a sychophantic interview recently)...but I must disagree that KO isn't at the least left leaning...(course I LOVE THAT) ...but given that one has to put up with Matthews/Tucker/Abrams/Scarborough on MSNBC I'm saying we should get at least one intelligent person commenting on the "news"...just wish that COUNTDOWN's second half was as informative as the "daily news" half is...
i cherish the day when guys like fall into quicksand.
i'll gladly sit on the side and make sure there is nothing they can grab onto!
Wow.
The point should be, the MSM is tilting "stupid".
How'd Kurtz or anyone else miss that point.
Rosie Odonell indeed! Why not Carrot Top?
Same credentials. I just flushed a more resposible choice down my toilet.
There you have it. The American media, a mockery.
howard who?
Howard Kurtz is married to a major Republican party operative named Sheri Annis.
He is nothing more and nothing less than a propaganda mouthpiece for the RNC.
This very simple fact should be mentioned any time he opens his pie-hole.
The sad thing is that some people actually fall for the "centrist is just to the right of Bill O'rielly" BS.
Kurtz = S M A R M Y ...
man is gross.
How has he gotten this far?
Oh, wait, I know... :(
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miss_kitty @ 73:
Ever hear of Saturday Night Live? I hear it was good in the '70s.
"Jane, you ignorant slut."
So, where's the beef Howie? If MSNBC "goes Leftie" with the hiring of Rosie, all FOX News has to do is balance them, fairly, with a rabid rightie like Dennis Miller, for instance. Simple solution, right?
Isn't that how fair and balanced works at FOX? Btw, who's to say when its all at an even keel? Media Matters, that's who. Well, even so, we're still waiting for true equilibrium at Fox. The problem is that Fox is so unbalanced, they keep falling in the gutter.
Umm, not everything is coming up Rosie.
She didn't get the job.
Fine with me, her tough broad shtick is grating.
Couldn't MSNBC been standing still, while Kurtz was moving further right?
oh no the liberal media conspiracy, talk about paranoid wingnuts
One peek at this clip and you can well understand why I don't have cable TV.
I absolultely REFUSE TO FINANCIALLY SUPPORT THESE PEOPLE.
Why on earth do you people continue to do so?
Who has started a debate about this, Howard? Only Bill O’Reilly and the Malkinites.
Oh yeah, and that bastion of conservatism, the New York Times:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9402E1DF1E3CF935A35752C1A...
Cat Atomic @ 50:
Your analysis is logical and dead-on.
The only problem, is that the wingnuts who believe all their B.S. are too stupid to connect the dots.
And if anything, the Bushies know their base. They also know that they are not the sharpest folks around.
Wingnuts and logic; they go together like water and oil.
miss_kitty @ 73:
It would be one thing in the co\ntext of the Daily Show or SNL, but it's another thing on a straight post. It just looks stupid here.
And, no, I haven't heard of humour. Is that something like humor? I only speak American.
That last post was supposed to end in /humor, but I guess the comments program took it as html.
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