S. 2248 is now before the Senate Judiciary, and will be voted on in just a few days. Unless public opposition is once again vigilant and strong, this new TIA bill has a good chance of passing in committee and of reaching the full Senate floor. Unfortunately, the dire consequences of this legislation for the survival of democracy in America, including the potential to destroy fair elections, have been greatly muted, misrepresented, and downplayed by the mainstream media; and mounting pressure on Congress from both the Bush Administration and the giant telecommunication corporations have combined to increase the odds that S. 2248 will soon become law.
By PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer Mon Nov 12, 6:21 PM ET
WASHINGTON - A federal judge Monday ordered the White House to preserve copies of all its e-mails, a move that Bush administration lawyers had argued strongly against.
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U.S. District Judge Henry Kennedy directed the Executive Office of the President to safeguard the material in response to two lawsuits that seek to determine whether the White House has destroyed e-mails in violation of federal law.
"Feinstein is not merely voting reliably for the most extremist Bush policies, though she is doing that. Far more than that, she has become, time and again, the linchpin of Bush's ability to have his most radical policies approved by the Senate."
So I heard that one of the people in the know says that the reason Obama never attacked Hillary strongly (as most predicted) is because she has promised him a Supreme Court nomination if she is elected. It makes complete sense; that is EXACTLY his background in law. He even speaks like a justice.
It explains a lot about his campaign. I was wondering if anyone else heard about that?
I find that sad though, as it means that the race is effectively down to 2: Hillary and Edwards. Of course, it doesn't look like she paid him off, since he is pointing out she fakes press conferences like Bush!... but still...
Being an open thread, apropos of absolutely nothing, I'll give a little Veteran's Day virtual salute to my dad:
He volunteered as a Marine in the South Pacific during WWII. He saw kamikaze pilots aiming for the ship he was standing on and shot down at the last minute, slept in foxholes, and walked through minefields. He certainly qualifies for all the reverence afforded to "The Greatest Generation."
I point all this out to note that just because you're "old enough to be a conservative", and just because you were inundated with propaganda as a youth, and just because you spent your late teens with people from a country you'd never even been to trying to kill you, and just because you're a veteran of the Marine Corps, that does not make you bigoted, unwilling to see reality, or stupid. At least in my limited experience, quite the opposite.
When I married a Japanese woman, my dad never expressed even the slightest hint of complaint, and I truly believe that he did not and does not feel any--it was a war that nobody wanted any part of, and he hardly holds it against people born decades after it was over. When I look at the animosity directed at anybody from even the general part of the world that the 9/11 hijackers came from, it disgusts me because I KNOW it does not have to be this way.
When he watches the news--which he does, and he's a sharp guy--he is visibly and vocally disgusted with what the US has apparently come to stand for. He knows from experience that war is a stupid, pointless affair, and is smart enough to know that this country has no business whatsoever being involved in any in the middle east. So when I stand up and lambast our government, the amorality that it practices, and the sham that is our imperialistic foreign policy, I KNOW that it's not just because I haven't been in the military and don't know what I'm talking about.
So whenever someone indirectly questions the patriotism of someone who is against endless war against The Other or expansive foreign policy or torture, then I don't need to be outraged only because I know these things are wrong--I can point to my father and say, with righteous outrage, that with that broad stroke they are labeling HIM unpatriotic as well, and for that I hold them in greater contempt than the ants that keep getting in my leftovers. I can feel disgust for people who are stupid, but when they by implication insult my father, who is in my opinion the definition a great man, that enrages me the way few things can.
For all the veterans out there who fought for what they thought was right, whether it turned out to be or not, this day's for them. In particular, the one who made me who I am.
I'm disappointed in Harper's government up there in Canada not sponsoring a UN declaration calling for an end to the death penalty as has been that nations symbolic tradition. He is turning that great liberal nation into a clone of America. The strip clubs are getting tamer and the great BC weed is becoming a bit harder to come by. I'm hoping the liberals can get their acts together up there. It seems they have defective fools like Pelosi and Reid running the left up there too. The liberals are so terrible it makes the right wing look good. And we have a lot to learn from what has happened there in the last big elections. We need strong leaders in the democratic party or we will go down in flames. Get Pelosi, Hoyer, Murtha and Reid the hell out of leadership positions and start putting real progressives in charge. We only have the devil Bush for another year and his poll numbers are in the tank, yet our democratic leaders are doing NOTHING. If the dems continue to avoid real confrontation and Hillary is the nominee I pray the democrats loose the Senate, Congress and the White House. I'd rather have a fascist Republican government than having a bunch of phony "democrat "corporate pigs fooling everyone. The left cannot continue to let itself be used. The dems promise the blacks time and time again, but never fulfill. If we don't do something in this election with all our power - the blogs - the money - the voice of the majority - WE will have failed America more than the devil GW himself. We really need to wake up as a movement and get radical!
And in regard to the black comment I meant to add that we must not allow ourselves as a movement to be used by the democratic leaders as they have used the african american voters for the last 50 plus years. These people like Bill Clinton go into the inner cities making all these promises and they do shit for the blacks. Bill Clinton in fact pushed the rights welfare reform, which through a lot of single mothers and poor blacks onto the streets. It didn't provide for schooling, but just put them in a revolving door of poverty. Yet we hail Clinton as some great leader for the blacks. We are a deceived people. As a progressive movement lets not let the Clinton DLC democrats fool us like they have fooled black people in this country into being loyal voters for the dems.
Glenn Beck calls Ron Paul suporters terrorists, adn dangerous, and now they are pissed.
See a list of Glenn Becks sponsors at the link, and see if you can do without one of their services, since they pay for someone to talk about america hater's houses burning in California, and who feels a US congressman is an enemy, because he is a muslim.
'I'll Sell My Soul to the Devil'
Corruption Scandals Involve Alaska's Biggest Political Names
ANCHORAGE -- When the FBI came looking for corruption in Alaska politics, it found an excellent perch in Suite 604 of the Baranof Hotel in Juneau, the state capital. There, a profane septuagenarian named Bill Allen did business throughout a 2006 special session called to set taxes on the oil industry. With hundred-dollar bills in his front pocket for ease of access when lawmakers turned up with their hands out, the oil-services company executive turned in a bravura performance before the pinhole camera that federal agents installed opposite his favorite chair.
I'm disappointed in Harper's government up there in Canada not sponsoring a UN declaration calling for an end to the death penalty as has been that nations symbolic tradition. He is turning that great liberal nation into a clone of America. The strip clubs are getting tamer and the great BC weed is becoming a bit harder to come by. I'm hoping the liberals can get their acts together up there. It seems they have defective fools like Pelosi and Reid running the left up there too. The liberals are so terrible it makes the right wing look good. And we have a lot to learn from what has happened there in the last big elections. We need strong leaders in the democratic party or we will go down in flames. Get Pelosi, Hoyer, Murtha and Reid the hell out of leadership positions and start putting real progressives in charge. We only have the devil Bush for another year and his poll numbers are in the tank, yet our democratic leaders are doing NOTHING. If the dems continue to avoid real confrontation and Hillary is the nominee I pray the democrats loose the Senate, Congress and the White House. I'd rather have a fascist Republican government than having a bunch of phony "democrat "corporate pigs fooling everyone. The left cannot continue to let itself be used. The dems promise the blacks time and time again, but never fulfill. If we don't do something in this election with all our power - the blogs - the money - the voice of the majority - WE will have failed America more than the devil GW himself. We really need to wake up as a movement and get radical!
No surprise however Budda-Harper is another neo con asswipe.
So I heard that one of the people in the know says that the reason Obama never attacked Hillary strongly (as most predicted) is because she has promised him a Supreme Court nomination if she is elected. It makes complete sense; that is EXACTLY his background in law. He even speaks like a justice.
It explains a lot about his campaign. I was wondering if anyone else heard about that?
I find that sad though, as it means that the race is effectively down to 2: Hillary and Edwards. Of course, it doesn't look like she paid him off, since he is pointing out she fakes press conferences like Bush!... but still...
HA! Finally found it. "Toobin"... could NOT remember that guys name for the life of me. Said the above in a pretty good interview with Charlie Rose (free). I don't really know anything about this Toobin fellow though...
i appologize, i have not read through the comments before posting this. someone may have already said what i am about to say. however, if you ever do that to john lennon again i will eat your children and the children of all your relatives!
Mon, 11/12/2007 - 01:54 — Paul in LA (not verified)
CoIntelPro @ 2 "Amid public outcry, in 2003, Congress defunded the Bush Administration's Total Information Awareness (TIA) project...Now, it is attempting to pass through the FISA Amendments Act of 2007 (S. 2248), a bill that would affectively give legal standing and retroactive legal immunity to a major component of this project."
That's NOT Congress, that's the SENATE (notice the "S" in the number).
• The House FISA RESTORE bill has no offer of immunity whatsoever, and all of the leadership of the House caucus has refused to consider any kind of immunity until ALL data on the spying has been revealed to the House committees.
Coin, you can stop spreading this "Congress" misconception any time now.
Mon, 11/12/2007 - 01:55 — Retired Navy (not verified)
If John Lennon were still alive he would have been one of the loudest critics of the war and the Bush administration. I'm pretty sure he would fail to see anything humorous with the graphic. Bad taste.
Mon, 11/12/2007 - 01:58 — Paul in LA (not verified)
And, I would like to clarify for those who don't know, the term "Congress" generally refers to the House of Representatives. Though the term does of course refer to both Houses in various contexts, we do not call Senators 'Congressmen' for a reason.
We have about 180 loyal-voting Dems in the House, and about 25 in the Senate. Bashing the entire Congress for what some Senators are doing to screw the country is an insult to those loyal politicians who are trying to fight that kind of screwing.
Mon, 11/12/2007 - 02:39 — Paul in LA (not verified)
And that 429 figure for the Army National Guard doesn't really tell the story, because it includes a big chunk of the ANG's brass, regionally and nationally.
I don't know if any of you missed this, but here's the latest Bushco photochop:
And, I would like to clarify for those who don't know, the term "Congress" generally refers to the House of Representatives. Though the term does of course refer to both Houses in various contexts, we do not call Senators 'Congressmen' for a reason.
We have about 180 loyal-voting Dems in the House, and about 25 in the Senate. Bashing the entire Congress for what some Senators are doing to screw the country is an insult to those loyal politicians who are trying to fight that kind of screwing.
Glenn Beck calls Ron Paul suporters terrorists, adn dangerous, and now they are pissed.
See a list of Glenn Becks sponsors at the link, and see if you can do without one of their services, since they pay for someone to talk about america hater's houses burning in California, and who feels a US congressman is an enemy, because he is a muslim.
But today I can reveal to you a simple and powerful truth.
A tyrant’s only ally is fear.
Just as in a fairytale where the villain cannot exist unless you believe in it, tyranny cannot exist unless you fear it.
Whether fear of personal oppression or phantom enemies presented by the state, terror must be maintained or the cohesion of authoritarian control always disintegrates.
And so today I say to you that the way to victory is easy.
Just stand up and fight.
Unlike our founding fathers, we are not asked to forge towards the defeat of some implacable enemy through fields and valleys awash with filth and blood. We are not asked to leave our homes, our land, and our families on an almost certainly fatal journey with little hope of return. And we are not asked to die the brutal and agonizing death of so many anonymous patriots, whose last anguished cry was freedom, alone on some cold and desolate battlefield.
No my friends, all we are asked to do is stand up and fight with our voices and our unaltered votes.
My fellow citizens, the truth is that the Constitution fails to defend itself, enduring only in the brave hearts of those who would uphold it.
So today I ask every American within the sound of my voice, or reach of my words, to once again stand as one people, with one voice, with one conscience, and one purpose, and demand the immediate and unconditional restoration of our government of the people, by the people, for the people, and visible to the people.
Today I ask every American registered with the Republican or Democratic parties to immediately abandon those failed institutions and register as a non-partisan voter. Today I ask that from this day forward, we, as a united people, vote only for those candidates who pledge to immediately restore our Constitutional Republic.
These are the keys to the kingdom my friends, which we have always held. It just seems that, for awhile, we had forgotten how to turn them.
Yes, it’s time to empty our secret prisons. Let us free the innocent, and justly convict the guilty.
And let history record that in that darkest hour, when loss predeemed history, providence again praised freedom. Providence, and the righteous will and might of the American people.
Mon, 11/12/2007 - 03:49 — Paul in LA (not verified)
Oh, and Veteran's Day remembrances can't be complete without mentioning ex-paratrooper and Vietnam vet
Jimi Hendrix
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What seems to be the fuzz out there?
Just what seems to be the hang?
Cause you know if ya just dont want me this time around,
Yeah I'll be glad to go back to spirit land
And even take a longer rest,
Before I'm coming down the chute again.
budda @ 17 "Yet we hail Clinton as some great leader for the blacks. We are a deceived people."
We do? You are?
I don't know anyone who thought BC was a great leader of the blacks. Who ever thought that? The Washington Post?
In all fairness, many black leaders were rallied by Ron Brown and others in the Clinton posse. Clintob was about the only politician willing to be seen with a black person around him, even among the Dems. So the deception was very successful.
the media ignored his death penalty record which was third, behind the two bush bros and his education record, third-last, behind ala. and miss. and just ahead of tex. clintons program cuts were similar to reagan's, except clinton did it with many people smiling along side him. the clinton/black meme was something that gave the dems 92% of the black vote. a very succesful strategy.
And in regard to the black comment I meant to add that we must not allow ourselves as a movement to be used by the democratic leaders as they have used the african american voters for the last 50 plus years. These people like Bill Clinton go into the inner cities making all these promises and they do shit for the blacks. Bill Clinton in fact pushed the rights welfare reform, which through a lot of single mothers and poor blacks onto the streets. It didn't provide for schooling, but just put them in a revolving door of poverty. Yet we hail Clinton as some great leader for the blacks. We are a deceived people. As a progressive movement lets not let the Clinton DLC democrats fool us like they have fooled black people in this country into being loyal voters for the dems.
well put! and with Ron Brown beside him, BC was able to pull it off as if it were a benefit.
Nancy Pelosi is reported to have replied to the question of impeachment that if she received 10,000 hand written letters she would proceed with it. What are we waiting for? Letters should go to her SF office.
Nancy Pelosi
450 Golden Gate Avenue, 14th Floor
San Francisco, CA 94102
CoIntelPro @ 2 "Amid public outcry, in 2003, Congress defunded the Bush Administration's Total Information Awareness (TIA) project...Now, it is attempting to pass through the FISA Amendments Act of 2007 (S. 2248), a bill that would affectively give legal standing and retroactive legal immunity to a major component of this project."
That's NOT Congress, that's the SENATE (notice the "S" in the number).
• The House FISA RESTORE bill has no offer of immunity whatsoever, and all of the leadership of the House caucus has refused to consider any kind of immunity until ALL data on the spying has been revealed to the House committees.
Coin, you can stop spreading this "Congress" misconception any time now.
first of all, take it up with the original writers. I'm just passing it on.
second, my hairsplitting comrade, 'congress' as a general term, applies to BOTH houses when referred to collectively.
The Economic Consequences of the worst president ever - http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/12/bush200712
The next president will have to deal with yet another crippling legacy of George W. Bush: the economy. A Nobel laureate sees a generation-long struggle to recoup. When we look back someday at the catastrophe that was the Bush administration, we will think of many things: the tragedy of the Iraq war, the shame of Guantánamo and Abu Ghraib, the erosion of civil liberties. But the damage done to the American economy will be felt beyond the lifetime of most.
Think of the interest we are paying, year after year, on the almost $4 trillion of increased debt burden—even at 5 percent, that’s an annual payment of $200 billion, two Iraq wars a year forever. Think of the taxes that future governments will have to levy to repay even a fraction of the debt we have accumulated. And think of the widening divide between rich and poor in America, a phenomenon that goes beyond economics and speaks to the very future of the American Dream.
In short, there’s a momentum here that will require a generation to reverse. Decades hence we should take stock, and revisit the conventional wisdom. Will Herbert Hoover still deserve his dubious mantle? I’m guessing that George W. Bush will have earned one more grim superlative.
Must Read: The economic costs to the United States of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan so far total approximately $1.5 trillion, according to a new study by congressional Democratic reps that estimates the conflicts' "hidden costs"-- including higher oil prices, the expense of treating wounded veterans and interest payments on the money borrowed to pay for the wars. Study says wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have cost average U.S. family of four more than $20,000.
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/12/AR2007111202008.html?hpid=topnews
Experts: Danger of Nuclear-Armed Iran Hyped - http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/21341.html
A hostile country led by anti-American ideologues appears close to developing its first nuclear weapon and, as a U.S. election approaches, the president and his advisers debate a pre-emptive military strike. Newspaper columnists demand action to stop the nuclear peril. The country was China, the year was 1963 and the president was Lyndon Baines Johnson. Now it is Iran that is said to may be bent on acquiring nuclear arms, and President Bush who has declared that “unacceptable.”
Rush of "Wave Prospectors" Hoping to Harness Energy - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/11/12/MNNPT8U6A.DTL
“A new California ‘gold rush’ is on - to stake out claims to prime stretches of ocean along the coast where prospectors hope to harness waves to produce energy. . .No one's succeeded in producing wave power commercially in the United States, but the lure of future feasibility as a clean source of energy is spurring potential developers to claim prime wave sites.” Environmental groups will be watching closely due to the potential harm to sea life, beaches and the seabed ecology.
This Week's Top Ten Conservative Idiots - http://journals.democraticunderground.com/top10/314
Pay attention to #8....
"Last week the Journal of Geoclimatic Studies released a new report "pointing to ocean bacteria as the overwhelming cause of global warming," according to Reuters.
Even Rush Limbaugh trumpeted the story on his radio show. But there was just one problem: the whole thing was a hoax. There is no "Journal of Geoclimatic Studies," and the authors of the study don't exist. The whole thing was a big trick to expose climate skeptics as the non-scientific propaganda-pushers they really are. In an interview, the apparent author of the spoof study wrote:
Its purpose was to expose the credulity and scientific illiteracy of many of the people who call themselves climate sceptics. While dismissive of the work of the great majority of climate scientists, they will believe almost anything if it lends support to their position.
Yep....fake science, for morons...a Republican tradition
God-for-profit, Jesus Pimps: An Atlanta megachurch took in $69 million (€47 million) in 2006, according to a financial statement the church's minister released in response to a Senate investigation into him and five other well-known televangelists. - http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/11/america/NA-GEN-US-Televangelis...
If your 'church' has an accounting dept...then its not a church...its a business, simple as that.
Zogby Poll: Liberals were much more likely than conservatives to listen to commentary and entertainment with which they disagreed philosophically. Fox News wins the prize for the most politically divisive TV channel (70% of conservatives watch it daily and only 3% of liberals). - http://politicalwire.com/archives/2007/11/12/liberals_and_conservatives_...
Translation: Liberals - independent, open minded, 'thinkers'.....Con-servatives - dependent, close minded, 'believers'
Oregon Teacher Loses Fight to Take Gun to Class. We should hope so. These gun advocates are so selfish. It's all about them, no matter how much it puts others at risk. - http://www.gunguys.com/#post-2639
Finally, leave it to a young person (student) to distill this issue into its most important point: "I totally understand she wants to protect herself," said Lauren Forderer, 16, a junior. "But I don't agree she should bring her problems around 2,000 other people."
Oops! We're Not Fighting Al-Qaeda in Iraq After All. We're Fighting Iraqi Intelligence! "The head of police intelligence in Iraq's Karbala province has been detained after roadside bombs and other weapons were found in a raid on his house, a police spokesman said on Sunday." Can our troops come home now? - http://au.news.yahoo.com/071112/2/14wih.html
I'm guessing this won't get any play on Fox Noise...
"Send a Letter to Nancy -
Put Impeachment back on the table ! ...."
diana
I'm sorry patriot diana, but the multi thousand impeachment letter campaign myth (some say 10K, some 20K, other 50K, etc.) has been around since the treasonous Pelosi gained power, and now you would actually have to ask her to put the entire Constitution back on the table, and neither the Republicans or Democrats will ever willingly do that again.
But there still may be a way to restore our Constitution, and the rule of law it embraces, to America. (And no, I'm not a Ron Paul supporter, I think he's simply a good old fashioned heartless neocon).
All loyal Americans still registered with the Republican or Democratic parties must immediately abandon those failed institutions and register as non-affiliated voters, crippling them financially as much as the citizens can, and if we're lucky enough to actually have another free election, vote only for those candidates who pledge to immediately restore our Constitution.
And if we don't have elections on schedule, well, you know what to do.
ST
That's NOT Congress, that's the SENATE (notice the "S" in the number).
• The House ....
by your own acknowledgement the house is the house,
the senate is the senate and
neither is properly called congress.
It is a collective term.
the convention of referring to the house as congress is something you can investigate on your own time.
meanwhile, what about the story? any thoughts on that?
An American stands for the rule of law and the right of the accused to be considered innocent until proven guilty.
An American stands for human rights and the humane treatment of even the most heinous criminal.
An American stands for our Constitution, and the just punishment of all those who would violate or subvert it.
As for those living on our soil who disavow these principals, I know not what they are, only that they are not Americans.
ST
"Our question is not whether or not we have enemies, or whether or not we should fear them. It is whether or not we recognize our true enemies, and whether or not we shall face and defeat them as Americans."
SearingTruth
I'm disappointed in Harper's government up there in Canada not sponsoring a UN declaration calling for an end to the death penalty as has been that nations symbolic tradition. He is turning that great liberal nation into a clone of America
I know and it sickens me to death just thinking about it.
The latest "Hey didn't they already do this in the US" scandal involves the FORMER conservotard PM, mulroney whom I hate with almost as deep a loathing as his american ape cousin, shrub. mulroney and his gang were such thieves that he and his wife were almost ARRESTED for stealing donated objects d'art from the official residence while they were vacating it. They played it all off as a huge mistake of course.
Our economy which was doing well until the mulroney years [blarg] was plunged into debt from which we only recovered thanks to the new Liberal government which was immediately elected upon mulroney's cut and run resignation. Basically he realized he and his criminal gang had taken all they could get. So he procured a job offer for himself and quit politics.
When he ran away his predecessor Kim Campbell became the party leader and in the next election the conservotards reaped the benefits of mulroney's reign. They managed to secure a sum total of TWO SEATS in the entire house. Two. We were THAT CLOSE to getting rid of them forever. There was a LOT of joy and not a little schaudenfreuda that day.
Unfortunately the conservotards hung on and later 'merged' [allowed their name to be assimilated] by a new political party calling itself of all things "the reform party" who's creator was a former US citizen. The party was mainly a draw for bigots and haters of all sorts coming together under the banner idea of hating all things liberal. I'm happy to say that they failed miserably for a long time. Until they managed to buy the conservotard name and convince the remaining conservotards that their way was the best way. After some back door deals which went south once the cameras were on, they had what they wanted. [this is also why we have a foreign affairs minister who's from Nova Scotia who had never been further than ottawa.]
With a lot of money and a little advice from some "friends" across the border they managed to start winning seats again and finally bought the last big election and here we are.
The first thing harper and his sponge minions tried to do was reverse the ruling that recognizes same sex unions. This is one of the platforms the haters campaigned on. "We'll bring our country back to DECENCY" and you should have SEEN the buck tooth, head-up-their-ass, groups they drew. It was a nightmare. Their campaign seemed to leech these people out of the woodwork like a stain. Thankfully when the time came steve harpy couldn't get enough votes in his OWN party to get his little referendum of hate going and he had to concede almost immediately that he wouldn't be able to pull it off. [HA!]
In the wake of his presidency er election he has done all he can to make himself the 'imperial primeminister' modeling his behavior after his big hero, chimp boy. I can't even begin to tell you the things he's done to try and control the press on parliment hill. At first there were protests. If harper wasn't going to answer questions, said the reporters, then we aren't covering his announcements. And they didn't. I love them for that. It pissed the fat bastard off like nothing else and he was on tv a few times making annoyed attacks on the press for their [how dare they] independence.
The conservotards have solidified their hold on things by spending all their time and money trying to make the word liberal a swear and trying to turn this into america jr. One small consolation is that this is an open party system and there are MORE than just the liberals and the tards. The NDP is a large party with many seats in parliment as are the quebequois. [but it's difficult to respect a party who's only real goal is to take as much as it can get for itself and then take quebec out of Canada.] So while the conservotards are doing everything in the US playbook to make things just like their bestest buddies in the US, the other parties continue to behave as though they live in Canada. It's an ugly struggle that is causing changes in my country that really make me sad. The fact that all it takes for these cretins to turn their back on everything is a big fat wad of money. I'm surprised they can remain upright they're so crooked.
The latest scandal is that the current PM knew about the former PM taking bribes and in fact was probably in on it if not completely aware of it. Now that this revelation has arrived he's suddenly willing to start an inquiry into the former conservotard's reign of stupid. Here's hoping HONEST people find the crooks out and we can run them out of town on a rail as soon as possible.
Wow. I just busted Yahoo for being propagandist, lying S.O.B.s.
One of the main headlines on Yahoo's homepage says Report: 'Hidden costs' have driven price of wars up to $1.5 billion. But guess what? I click on that headline thinking to myself that this number sounds a little bit low and read the article which states that the hidden costs of this hideous war are topping $1.5 TRILLION.
Hey that image is most disturbing... I'd prefer to neither see nor contemplate a mashup of the best and the very worst expressions of humanity. I respond thusly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4gqomQ4YlE
Forward the message!
What I posted at #82 for the Reuters piece was copied and pasted from yahoo's homepage news headlines, not the actual article. It's the title of the link that leads to it and it's more than a little off, methinks. Wonder who is sitting there churning out the news headlines. Kind of a big typo.
And, I would like to clarify for those who don't know, the term "Congress" generally refers to the House of Representatives. Though the term does of course refer to both Houses in various contexts, we do not call Senators 'Congressmen' for a reason.
We have about 180 loyal-voting Dems in the House, and about 25 in the Senate. Bashing the entire Congress for what some Senators are doing to screw the country is an insult to those loyal politicians who are trying to fight that kind of screwing.
Good Point Paul.
'Representative' is the official honorary for House members
'Senator' is the official honorary for Senate members
congress is a general collective term
no one was bashing 'congress'.
you read an awful lot into a single post. that makes me think something else was really bothering you and the post was just an opportunity for you to vent.
your cheering section doesn't help. it just means more people missed the point.
You guys will see those four faces getting out of dodge in a hurry - and they will be bound for paraguay - where, i might add, gw purchased a 100,000 acre ranch. They will run to that country and live under the protection of amnesty. Thanks to nancy pelosi who said "impeachment if off the table" - gwbush and his merry band of thieves will not suffer for what they have done to americans - "we the people" have suffered and will suffer more.
I agree that the photo is an insult to the beatles - but bush and co is quite an insult to the americans and the soldiers fighting.
[Don't post in ALL CAPS-Sitemonitor]
YOU GUYS WILL SEE THOSE FOUR FACES GETTING OUT OF DODGE IN A HURRY - AND THEY WILL BE BOUND FOR PARAGUAY - WHERE, I MIGHT ADD, GW PURCHASED A 100,000 ACRE RANCH. THEY WILL RUN TO THAT COUNTRY AND LIVE UNDER THE PROTECTION OF AMNESTY. THANKS TO NANCY PELOSI WHO SAID "IMPEACHMENT IF OFF THE TABLE" - GWBUSH AND HIS MERRY BAND OF THIEVES WILL NOT SUFFER FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO AMERICANS - "WE THE PEOPLE" HAVE SUFFERED AND WILL SUFFER MORE.
I AGREE THAT THE PHOTO IS AN INSULT TO THE BEATLES - BUT BUSH AND CO IS QUITE AN INSULT TO THE AMERICANS AND THE SOLDIERS FIGHTING.
Post a source for your claim about a Paraguay ranch.
Mon, 11/12/2007 - 17:11 — Paul in LA (not verified)
diana @ 64: Nancy Pelosi is reported to have replied to the question of impeachment that if she received 10,000 hand written letters she would proceed with it. What are we waiting for?"
Rumors will not change the facts. There are not enough votes to carry impeachment (-30 votes) and something like 40 Senators short of conviction.
It would go up, it would go down, and right before it is defeated it would be sent back to the HJC,
WHERE IT WOULD AWAIT NOT LETTERS TO THE SPEAKER, BUT TO ANY REPUBLICAN WHO MIGHT CHANGE THEIR ALLEGIANCE.
Mon, 11/12/2007 - 17:13 — Paul in LA (not verified)
Kenny @ 94 "Post a source for your claim about a Paraguay ranch."
It's for real. They have bought up a very large tract of land next to the Parana river. Inland, no global warming danger, the second largest river in S. America, a righwing gov't with NO extradition, and friendly banks.
Mon, 11/12/2007 - 17:16 — Paul in LA (not verified)
CoIntelPRo @ 87 "no one was bashing 'congress'."
You are. You are talking about the Senate, and you say "Congress."
Well, we have more than SEVEN TIMES more loyal Representatives than Senators.
So when you say 'Congress' and you mean the Senate you are bashing something like 175 loyal Democrats for the actions of a handful. And that's propaganda. You don't want to spread propaganda, do you?
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A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION
by Elliot D. Cohen
Amid public outcry, in 2003, Congress defunded the Bush Administration's Total Information Awareness (TIA) project, a massive Orwellian technology-driven surveillance and data mining initiative. Now, it is attempting to pass through the FISA Amendments Act of 2007 (S. 2248), a bill that would affectively give legal standing and retroactive legal immunity to a major component of this project.
S. 2248 is now before the Senate Judiciary, and will be voted on in just a few days. Unless public opposition is once again vigilant and strong, this new TIA bill has a good chance of passing in committee and of reaching the full Senate floor. Unfortunately, the dire consequences of this legislation for the survival of democracy in America, including the potential to destroy fair elections, have been greatly muted, misrepresented, and downplayed by the mainstream media; and mounting pressure on Congress from both the Bush Administration and the giant telecommunication corporations have combined to increase the odds that S. 2248 will soon become law.
That really is a slight against the Beatles. Ugh.
Judge orders White House to hold e-mails
By PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer Mon Nov 12, 6:21 PM ET
WASHINGTON - A federal judge Monday ordered the White House to preserve copies of all its e-mails, a move that Bush administration lawyers had argued strongly against.
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U.S. District Judge Henry Kennedy directed the Executive Office of the President to safeguard the material in response to two lawsuits that seek to determine whether the White House has destroyed e-mails in violation of federal law.
bushles and bushles of bush-it?
Sorry...too easy to just let go.....
Shame turning Paul into Cro-Magno-Bush.
Glenn Greenwald: Dianne Feinstein -- Bush's key ally in the Senate -- to support telecom amnesty
"Feinstein is not merely voting reliably for the most extremist Bush policies, though she is doing that. Far more than that, she has become, time and again, the linchpin of Bush's ability to have his most radical policies approved by the Senate."
Damn, that's practically sacrilegious.
They forgot Condi My Dear and Long, Long, Long War.
that graphic is just weird seems to have no meaning or place - worse it insults the beatles
So I heard that one of the people in the know says that the reason Obama never attacked Hillary strongly (as most predicted) is because she has promised him a Supreme Court nomination if she is elected. It makes complete sense; that is EXACTLY his background in law. He even speaks like a justice.
It explains a lot about his campaign. I was wondering if anyone else heard about that?
I find that sad though, as it means that the race is effectively down to 2: Hillary and Edwards. Of course, it doesn't look like she paid him off, since he is pointing out she fakes press conferences like Bush!... but still...
And here's your song that goes with the Bushles Album: ‘A DAY IN THE LIFE (OF DUBYA)’
The thumbnail is upsetting in too many ways to explain
Being an open thread, apropos of absolutely nothing, I'll give a little Veteran's Day virtual salute to my dad:
He volunteered as a Marine in the South Pacific during WWII. He saw kamikaze pilots aiming for the ship he was standing on and shot down at the last minute, slept in foxholes, and walked through minefields. He certainly qualifies for all the reverence afforded to "The Greatest Generation."
I point all this out to note that just because you're "old enough to be a conservative", and just because you were inundated with propaganda as a youth, and just because you spent your late teens with people from a country you'd never even been to trying to kill you, and just because you're a veteran of the Marine Corps, that does not make you bigoted, unwilling to see reality, or stupid. At least in my limited experience, quite the opposite.
When I married a Japanese woman, my dad never expressed even the slightest hint of complaint, and I truly believe that he did not and does not feel any--it was a war that nobody wanted any part of, and he hardly holds it against people born decades after it was over. When I look at the animosity directed at anybody from even the general part of the world that the 9/11 hijackers came from, it disgusts me because I KNOW it does not have to be this way.
When he watches the news--which he does, and he's a sharp guy--he is visibly and vocally disgusted with what the US has apparently come to stand for. He knows from experience that war is a stupid, pointless affair, and is smart enough to know that this country has no business whatsoever being involved in any in the middle east. So when I stand up and lambast our government, the amorality that it practices, and the sham that is our imperialistic foreign policy, I KNOW that it's not just because I haven't been in the military and don't know what I'm talking about.
So whenever someone indirectly questions the patriotism of someone who is against endless war against The Other or expansive foreign policy or torture, then I don't need to be outraged only because I know these things are wrong--I can point to my father and say, with righteous outrage, that with that broad stroke they are labeling HIM unpatriotic as well, and for that I hold them in greater contempt than the ants that keep getting in my leftovers. I can feel disgust for people who are stupid, but when they by implication insult my father, who is in my opinion the definition a great man, that enrages me the way few things can.
For all the veterans out there who fought for what they thought was right, whether it turned out to be or not, this day's for them. In particular, the one who made me who I am.
The election is just around the corner, so it's time to get fooled again!
Makes me laugh a little, Also is it me or is each character the polar opposite of the beatle they represent?
I'm disappointed in Harper's government up there in Canada not sponsoring a UN declaration calling for an end to the death penalty as has been that nations symbolic tradition. He is turning that great liberal nation into a clone of America. The strip clubs are getting tamer and the great BC weed is becoming a bit harder to come by. I'm hoping the liberals can get their acts together up there. It seems they have defective fools like Pelosi and Reid running the left up there too. The liberals are so terrible it makes the right wing look good. And we have a lot to learn from what has happened there in the last big elections. We need strong leaders in the democratic party or we will go down in flames. Get Pelosi, Hoyer, Murtha and Reid the hell out of leadership positions and start putting real progressives in charge. We only have the devil Bush for another year and his poll numbers are in the tank, yet our democratic leaders are doing NOTHING. If the dems continue to avoid real confrontation and Hillary is the nominee I pray the democrats loose the Senate, Congress and the White House. I'd rather have a fascist Republican government than having a bunch of phony "democrat "corporate pigs fooling everyone. The left cannot continue to let itself be used. The dems promise the blacks time and time again, but never fulfill. If we don't do something in this election with all our power - the blogs - the money - the voice of the majority - WE will have failed America more than the devil GW himself. We really need to wake up as a movement and get radical!
And in regard to the black comment I meant to add that we must not allow ourselves as a movement to be used by the democratic leaders as they have used the african american voters for the last 50 plus years. These people like Bill Clinton go into the inner cities making all these promises and they do shit for the blacks. Bill Clinton in fact pushed the rights welfare reform, which through a lot of single mothers and poor blacks onto the streets. It didn't provide for schooling, but just put them in a revolving door of poverty. Yet we hail Clinton as some great leader for the blacks. We are a deceived people. As a progressive movement lets not let the Clinton DLC democrats fool us like they have fooled black people in this country into being loyal voters for the dems.
http://rpdaily.blogspot.com/2007/11/glenn-beck-calls-ron-paul-supporters...
Glenn Beck calls Ron Paul suporters terrorists, adn dangerous, and now they are pissed.
See a list of Glenn Becks sponsors at the link, and see if you can do without one of their services, since they pay for someone to talk about america hater's houses burning in California, and who feels a US congressman is an enemy, because he is a muslim.
Being a Beatles fan, I resent that photoshopjob.
cheney's the walrus....wait, is that right?
Condi looks like Prince.
That's just plain blasphemy. Here's something to watch and listen to Bush Whacked by Tom Chelston
Also to #12 Marc Says - Very well put.
Be Peace
Sacrilege!
I thought Cheney kind of looked like Ozzy Osbourne, and I agree that Condi looks like Prince.
Is that Rummy under George Harrison's hair? He looks like a bad Hollywood typecast of a Mexican, from a 1960's western.
Georgie just looks normal...like the village idiot.
Nice job, but I agree that this is bordering on sacrilege.
Lennon = Cheney?
I can practically hear Lennon rolling in his grave as I type this.
[deleted--please respect the site owner's wishes re: 9/11 discussions on this site.]
Oddly,they look more--to me at least--like The Monkeys.
Rummy looks like Mickey Dolenz.
Bush should have been Ringo...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/11/AR200711...
'I'll Sell My Soul to the Devil'
Corruption Scandals Involve Alaska's Biggest Political Names
ANCHORAGE -- When the FBI came looking for corruption in Alaska politics, it found an excellent perch in Suite 604 of the Baranof Hotel in Juneau, the state capital. There, a profane septuagenarian named Bill Allen did business throughout a 2006 special session called to set taxes on the oil industry. With hundred-dollar bills in his front pocket for ease of access when lawmakers turned up with their hands out, the oil-services company executive turned in a bravura performance before the pinhole camera that federal agents installed opposite his favorite chair.
budda @ 16:
No surprise however Budda-Harper is another neo con asswipe.
Walgreens sponsors glen beck
shop rite aid
American express sponsors glenn beck
use visa
Write these people, tell them what you think about beck talking about "america haters" houses burning down in california
swarmofkillermonkeys @ 10:
HA! Finally found it. "Toobin"... could NOT remember that guys name for the life of me. Said the above in a pretty good interview with Charlie Rose (free). I don't really know anything about this Toobin fellow though...
i appologize, i have not read through the comments before posting this. someone may have already said what i am about to say. however, if you ever do that to john lennon again i will eat your children and the children of all your relatives!
also foundook:
http://freewayblogger.blogspot.com/2007/11/also-found-in-pakistani-textb... in a Pakistani textb
oops... "Also found in a Pakistani textbook:"
http://freewayblogger.blogspot.com/2007/11/also-found-in-pakistani-textb...
Decades after the civil rights movement, the income gap between black and white families has grown, says a new study that tracked the incomes of some 2,300 families for more than 30 years.
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And We will Survive This Administration!!
Saw on a bumper:
Monico Lewinsky had more President in her
than George W. Bush will ever have.
On the other hand, estimates of how much BC got back out seems to be going down precipitously.
budda @ 17 "Yet we hail Clinton as some great leader for the blacks. We are a deceived people."
We do? You are?
I don't know anyone who thought BC was a great leader of the blacks. Who ever thought that? The Washington Post?
CoIntelPro @ 2 "Amid public outcry, in 2003, Congress defunded the Bush Administration's Total Information Awareness (TIA) project...Now, it is attempting to pass through the FISA Amendments Act of 2007 (S. 2248), a bill that would affectively give legal standing and retroactive legal immunity to a major component of this project."
That's NOT Congress, that's the SENATE (notice the "S" in the number).
• The House FISA RESTORE bill has no offer of immunity whatsoever, and all of the leadership of the House caucus has refused to consider any kind of immunity until ALL data on the spying has been revealed to the House committees.
Coin, you can stop spreading this "Congress" misconception any time now.
Marc @ 13:
Well done, Marc. A Veterans Day salute to your father and to you.
If John Lennon were still alive he would have been one of the loudest critics of the war and the Bush administration. I'm pretty sure he would fail to see anything humorous with the graphic. Bad taste.
WTF? Unfortunately, a needless smear of The Beatles. What's next? Mount Bushmore? The Last Bush Supper?
And, I would like to clarify for those who don't know, the term "Congress" generally refers to the House of Representatives. Though the term does of course refer to both Houses in various contexts, we do not call Senators 'Congressmen' for a reason.
We have about 180 loyal-voting Dems in the House, and about 25 in the Senate. Bashing the entire Congress for what some Senators are doing to screw the country is an insult to those loyal politicians who are trying to fight that kind of screwing.
peepeeray @ 41:
They already had that. I hear the Veteran's Legs in Aspic was considered "delicious."
A handy use for old guitar strings -- all those 'saints' in one room.
Here's a thought to snuggle up with tonight , by Mark Phillips former CIA Operative .
"The Nazis didn't lose the war . . . they just had to move "
Iraq US KIA:
Air Force: 41
Army: 2194
Marine: 843
Navy: 72.......................................(3,150)
Army Reserve: 129
Marine (Inactive Ready Reserve): 1
Marine Reserve: 127
Naval Reserve: 14..........................(271)
Air National Guard: 2
Army National Guard: 429
Coast Guard: 1..............................(432)
Dept. of Defense: 1
Dept. of the Air Force: 2
Dept. of the Army: 4.......................(7)
Total: 3,860 (does not include privatized U.S. soldiers, CIA and other undisclosed U.S. KIA)
source: http://icasualties.org/oif/
Wrong. Just plain wrong.
And that 429 figure for the Army National Guard doesn't really tell the story, because it includes a big chunk of the ANG's brass, regionally and nationally.
I don't know if any of you missed this, but here's the latest Bushco photochop:
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20071112/i/ra1096414723.jpg?x=380&y...
Do NOT view without Level 5 Goggles.
Those are flags being made to look like FLAMES.
Bush is the Twin Towers.
They're going to hang for this shit.
Paul in LA @ 42:
Good Point Paul.
Gah, don't let the Bushies ruin the Beatles too!
Will they beat the special Sympathy for the Devil?
dude @ 18:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9lluOm2zniM
Truth’s Victory
But today I can reveal to you a simple and powerful truth.
A tyrant’s only ally is fear.
Just as in a fairytale where the villain cannot exist unless you believe in it, tyranny cannot exist unless you fear it.
Whether fear of personal oppression or phantom enemies presented by the state, terror must be maintained or the cohesion of authoritarian control always disintegrates.
And so today I say to you that the way to victory is easy.
Just stand up and fight.
Unlike our founding fathers, we are not asked to forge towards the defeat of some implacable enemy through fields and valleys awash with filth and blood. We are not asked to leave our homes, our land, and our families on an almost certainly fatal journey with little hope of return. And we are not asked to die the brutal and agonizing death of so many anonymous patriots, whose last anguished cry was freedom, alone on some cold and desolate battlefield.
No my friends, all we are asked to do is stand up and fight with our voices and our unaltered votes.
My fellow citizens, the truth is that the Constitution fails to defend itself, enduring only in the brave hearts of those who would uphold it.
So today I ask every American within the sound of my voice, or reach of my words, to once again stand as one people, with one voice, with one conscience, and one purpose, and demand the immediate and unconditional restoration of our government of the people, by the people, for the people, and visible to the people.
Today I ask every American registered with the Republican or Democratic parties to immediately abandon those failed institutions and register as a non-partisan voter. Today I ask that from this day forward, we, as a united people, vote only for those candidates who pledge to immediately restore our Constitutional Republic.
These are the keys to the kingdom my friends, which we have always held. It just seems that, for awhile, we had forgotten how to turn them.
Yes, it’s time to empty our secret prisons. Let us free the innocent, and justly convict the guilty.
And let history record that in that darkest hour, when loss predeemed history, providence again praised freedom. Providence, and the righteous will and might of the American people.
Excerpt from A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com
Ron Paul Supporters versus Glenn Beck.
Which one is the Real Grand Wizard? Who will decide?
Sale of Walmart propane, ammunition, and survival goods will plummet.
Now what can we do to get Michael Savage to piss you guys off? Internecine Republican-Libertarian combat is definitely welcome.
Oh, and Veteran's Day remembrances can't be complete without mentioning ex-paratrooper and Vietnam vet
Jimi Hendrix
What seems to be the fuzz out there?
Just what seems to be the hang?
Cause you know if ya just dont want me this time around,
Yeah I'll be glad to go back to spirit land
And even take a longer rest,
Before I'm coming down the chute again.
(sorry about the He particle. I was going to say that 'chute' is a pun on his service).
why muddy the beatles with these a-holes?
Paul in LA @ 36:
Seeing that bumper sticker would make my day.
organmeat @ 9:
I agree. It's sacrilegious.
beckyboo @ 23:
Dead-on like Ozzy!
But instead of biting the heads off of bats Chenney bits the heads off of baby quails
"While they play, we will work.
While they dream, we will destroy.
When they wake, we will kill."
SearingTruth
A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com
organmeat @ 9:
ed zachary!
Paul in LA @ 37:
In all fairness, many black leaders were rallied by Ron Brown and others in the Clinton posse. Clintob was about the only politician willing to be seen with a black person around him, even among the Dems. So the deception was very successful.
the media ignored his death penalty record which was third, behind the two bush bros and his education record, third-last, behind ala. and miss. and just ahead of tex. clintons program cuts were similar to reagan's, except clinton did it with many people smiling along side him. the clinton/black meme was something that gave the dems 92% of the black vote. a very succesful strategy.
budda @ 17:
well put! and with Ron Brown beside him, BC was able to pull it off as if it were a benefit.
Send a Letter to Nancy -
Put Impeachment back on the table !
Nancy Pelosi is reported to have replied to the question of impeachment that if she received 10,000 hand written letters she would proceed with it. What are we waiting for? Letters should go to her SF office.
Nancy Pelosi
450 Golden Gate Avenue, 14th Floor
San Francisco, CA 94102
Phone: (415) 556-4862
Paul in LA @ 38:
first of all, take it up with the original writers. I'm just passing it on.
second, my hairsplitting comrade, 'congress' as a general term, applies to BOTH houses when referred to collectively.
relax, it's not the end of the world,.... YET!
Ridiculous...what in the f**k does this groups of gangsters have to do with the Beatles!
It would be more fitting if they photoshopped the Monkees. A fake band for a fake administration.
Daily Reading pt 1...
The Economic Consequences of the worst president ever - http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/12/bush200712
The next president will have to deal with yet another crippling legacy of George W. Bush: the economy. A Nobel laureate sees a generation-long struggle to recoup. When we look back someday at the catastrophe that was the Bush administration, we will think of many things: the tragedy of the Iraq war, the shame of Guantánamo and Abu Ghraib, the erosion of civil liberties. But the damage done to the American economy will be felt beyond the lifetime of most.
Think of the interest we are paying, year after year, on the almost $4 trillion of increased debt burden—even at 5 percent, that’s an annual payment of $200 billion, two Iraq wars a year forever. Think of the taxes that future governments will have to levy to repay even a fraction of the debt we have accumulated. And think of the widening divide between rich and poor in America, a phenomenon that goes beyond economics and speaks to the very future of the American Dream.
In short, there’s a momentum here that will require a generation to reverse. Decades hence we should take stock, and revisit the conventional wisdom. Will Herbert Hoover still deserve his dubious mantle? I’m guessing that George W. Bush will have earned one more grim superlative.
Must Read: The economic costs to the United States of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan so far total approximately $1.5 trillion, according to a new study by congressional Democratic reps that estimates the conflicts' "hidden costs"-- including higher oil prices, the expense of treating wounded veterans and interest payments on the money borrowed to pay for the wars. Study says wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have cost average U.S. family of four more than $20,000.
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/12/AR2007111202008.html?hpid=topnews
Experts: Danger of Nuclear-Armed Iran Hyped - http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/21341.html
A hostile country led by anti-American ideologues appears close to developing its first nuclear weapon and, as a U.S. election approaches, the president and his advisers debate a pre-emptive military strike. Newspaper columnists demand action to stop the nuclear peril. The country was China, the year was 1963 and the president was Lyndon Baines Johnson. Now it is Iran that is said to may be bent on acquiring nuclear arms, and President Bush who has declared that “unacceptable.”
Send a Letter to your Congressional representative Support House Resolution 333 for Impeachment! - https://secure2.convio.net/pepib/site/Advocacy?JServSessionIdr009=rmbsk1...
Rush of "Wave Prospectors" Hoping to Harness Energy - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/11/12/MNNPT8U6A.DTL
“A new California ‘gold rush’ is on - to stake out claims to prime stretches of ocean along the coast where prospectors hope to harness waves to produce energy. . .No one's succeeded in producing wave power commercially in the United States, but the lure of future feasibility as a clean source of energy is spurring potential developers to claim prime wave sites.” Environmental groups will be watching closely due to the potential harm to sea life, beaches and the seabed ecology.
Funny but in a macabre way. Lennon is spinning in his grave from the insult to his person.
Daily Reading pt 2...
This Week's Top Ten Conservative Idiots - http://journals.democraticunderground.com/top10/314
Pay attention to #8....
"Last week the Journal of Geoclimatic Studies released a new report "pointing to ocean bacteria as the overwhelming cause of global warming," according to Reuters.
Even Rush Limbaugh trumpeted the story on his radio show. But there was just one problem: the whole thing was a hoax. There is no "Journal of Geoclimatic Studies," and the authors of the study don't exist. The whole thing was a big trick to expose climate skeptics as the non-scientific propaganda-pushers they really are. In an interview, the apparent author of the spoof study wrote:
Its purpose was to expose the credulity and scientific illiteracy of many of the people who call themselves climate sceptics. While dismissive of the work of the great majority of climate scientists, they will believe almost anything if it lends support to their position.
Yep....fake science, for morons...a Republican tradition
God-for-profit, Jesus Pimps: An Atlanta megachurch took in $69 million (€47 million) in 2006, according to a financial statement the church's minister released in response to a Senate investigation into him and five other well-known televangelists. - http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/11/america/NA-GEN-US-Televangelis...
If your 'church' has an accounting dept...then its not a church...its a business, simple as that.
More bear species threatened with extinction - http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2007/nov/12/conservation.wildlife
Zogby Poll: Liberals were much more likely than conservatives to listen to commentary and entertainment with which they disagreed philosophically. Fox News wins the prize for the most politically divisive TV channel (70% of conservatives watch it daily and only 3% of liberals). - http://politicalwire.com/archives/2007/11/12/liberals_and_conservatives_...
Translation: Liberals - independent, open minded, 'thinkers'.....Con-servatives - dependent, close minded, 'believers'
Oregon Teacher Loses Fight to Take Gun to Class. We should hope so. These gun advocates are so selfish. It's all about them, no matter how much it puts others at risk. - http://www.gunguys.com/#post-2639
Finally, leave it to a young person (student) to distill this issue into its most important point: "I totally understand she wants to protect herself," said Lauren Forderer, 16, a junior. "But I don't agree she should bring her problems around 2,000 other people."
Oops! We're Not Fighting Al-Qaeda in Iraq After All. We're Fighting Iraqi Intelligence! "The head of police intelligence in Iraq's Karbala province has been detained after roadside bombs and other weapons were found in a raid on his house, a police spokesman said on Sunday." Can our troops come home now? - http://au.news.yahoo.com/071112/2/14wih.html
I'm guessing this won't get any play on Fox Noise...
About that picture...blasphemy! Blasphemy, I say! What's next, Condi's face Photoshopped onto Mother Theresa's body? Is nothing sacred anymore? /snark
"Send a Letter to Nancy -
Put Impeachment back on the table ! ...."
diana
I'm sorry patriot diana, but the multi thousand impeachment letter campaign myth (some say 10K, some 20K, other 50K, etc.) has been around since the treasonous Pelosi gained power, and now you would actually have to ask her to put the entire Constitution back on the table, and neither the Republicans or Democrats will ever willingly do that again.
But there still may be a way to restore our Constitution, and the rule of law it embraces, to America. (And no, I'm not a Ron Paul supporter, I think he's simply a good old fashioned heartless neocon).
All loyal Americans still registered with the Republican or Democratic parties must immediately abandon those failed institutions and register as non-affiliated voters, crippling them financially as much as the citizens can, and if we're lucky enough to actually have another free election, vote only for those candidates who pledge to immediately restore our Constitution.
And if we don't have elections on schedule, well, you know what to do.
ST
"Terrorists didn't steal our dignity, liberty, and freedom.
Republicans did."
SearingTruth
A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com
Winston @ 66:
I did not put it that way, but I agree wholeheartedly. It really is insulting to the beatles and any portion of their legacy.
wmd,wmd,wmd oh wmd....and whisper words of treason,wmd.
Oh God! That is desecration of such a degree , it can't be described!
Paul in LA @ 38:
That's NOT Congress, that's the SENATE (notice the "S" in the number).
• The House ....
by your own acknowledgement the house is the house,
the senate is the senate and
neither is properly called congress.
It is a collective term.
the convention of referring to the house as congress is something you can investigate on your own time.
meanwhile, what about the story? any thoughts on that?
mudshark @ 74:
that's good!
An American stands for truth and justice.
An American stands for the rule of law and the right of the accused to be considered innocent until proven guilty.
An American stands for human rights and the humane treatment of even the most heinous criminal.
An American stands for our Constitution, and the just punishment of all those who would violate or subvert it.
As for those living on our soil who disavow these principals, I know not what they are, only that they are not Americans.
ST
"Our question is not whether or not we have enemies, or whether or not we should fear them. It is whether or not we recognize our true enemies, and whether or not we shall face and defeat them as Americans."
SearingTruth
A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com
budda @ 16:
I know and it sickens me to death just thinking about it.
The latest "Hey didn't they already do this in the US" scandal involves the FORMER conservotard PM, mulroney whom I hate with almost as deep a loathing as his american ape cousin, shrub. mulroney and his gang were such thieves that he and his wife were almost ARRESTED for stealing donated objects d'art from the official residence while they were vacating it. They played it all off as a huge mistake of course.
Our economy which was doing well until the mulroney years [blarg] was plunged into debt from which we only recovered thanks to the new Liberal government which was immediately elected upon mulroney's cut and run resignation. Basically he realized he and his criminal gang had taken all they could get. So he procured a job offer for himself and quit politics.
When he ran away his predecessor Kim Campbell became the party leader and in the next election the conservotards reaped the benefits of mulroney's reign. They managed to secure a sum total of TWO SEATS in the entire house. Two. We were THAT CLOSE to getting rid of them forever. There was a LOT of joy and not a little schaudenfreuda that day.
Unfortunately the conservotards hung on and later 'merged' [allowed their name to be assimilated] by a new political party calling itself of all things "the reform party" who's creator was a former US citizen. The party was mainly a draw for bigots and haters of all sorts coming together under the banner idea of hating all things liberal. I'm happy to say that they failed miserably for a long time. Until they managed to buy the conservotard name and convince the remaining conservotards that their way was the best way. After some back door deals which went south once the cameras were on, they had what they wanted. [this is also why we have a foreign affairs minister who's from Nova Scotia who had never been further than ottawa.]
With a lot of money and a little advice from some "friends" across the border they managed to start winning seats again and finally bought the last big election and here we are.
The first thing harper and his sponge minions tried to do was reverse the ruling that recognizes same sex unions. This is one of the platforms the haters campaigned on. "We'll bring our country back to DECENCY" and you should have SEEN the buck tooth, head-up-their-ass, groups they drew. It was a nightmare. Their campaign seemed to leech these people out of the woodwork like a stain. Thankfully when the time came steve harpy couldn't get enough votes in his OWN party to get his little referendum of hate going and he had to concede almost immediately that he wouldn't be able to pull it off. [HA!]
In the wake of his
presidencyer election he has done all he can to make himself the 'imperial primeminister' modeling his behavior after his big hero, chimp boy. I can't even begin to tell you the things he's done to try and control the press on parliment hill. At first there were protests. If harper wasn't going to answer questions, said the reporters, then we aren't covering his announcements. And they didn't. I love them for that. It pissed the fat bastard off like nothing else and he was on tv a few times making annoyed attacks on the press for their [how dare they] independence.The conservotards have solidified their hold on things by spending all their time and money trying to make the word liberal a swear and trying to turn this into america jr. One small consolation is that this is an open party system and there are MORE than just the liberals and the tards. The NDP is a large party with many seats in parliment as are the quebequois. [but it's difficult to respect a party who's only real goal is to take as much as it can get for itself and then take quebec out of Canada.] So while the conservotards are doing everything in the US playbook to make things just like their bestest buddies in the US, the other parties continue to behave as though they live in Canada. It's an ugly struggle that is causing changes in my country that really make me sad. The fact that all it takes for these cretins to turn their back on everything is a big fat wad of money. I'm surprised they can remain upright they're so crooked.
The latest scandal is that the current PM knew about the former PM taking bribes and in fact was probably in on it if not completely aware of it. Now that this revelation has arrived he's suddenly willing to start an inquiry into the former conservotard's reign of stupid. Here's hoping HONEST people find the crooks out and we can run them out of town on a rail as soon as possible.
John and George (Harrison) are rolling in their graves. This image is an insult to the Beatles.
A first glance I thought it was The BUSHLIES.
Wow. I just busted Yahoo for being propagandist, lying S.O.B.s.
One of the main headlines on Yahoo's homepage says Report: 'Hidden costs' have driven price of wars up to $1.5 billion. But guess what? I click on that headline thinking to myself that this number sounds a little bit low and read the article which states that the hidden costs of this hideous war are topping $1.5 TRILLION.
NICE.
Reuters: Report: 'Hidden costs' have driven price of wars up to $1.5 billion
WP:Dems: War Costs Top $1.5 Trillion
The Real Cost of Iraq is on the order of our national debt.
Hey that image is most disturbing... I'd prefer to neither see nor contemplate a mashup of the best and the very worst expressions of humanity. I respond thusly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4gqomQ4YlE
Forward the message!
What I posted at #82 for the Reuters piece was copied and pasted from yahoo's homepage news headlines, not the actual article. It's the title of the link that leads to it and it's more than a little off, methinks. Wonder who is sitting there churning out the news headlines. Kind of a big typo.
peepeeray @ 41:
I want to see the Last Bush Supper. Can we schedule it for tonight?
Orangutan. @ 48:
Good Point Paul.
'Representative' is the official honorary for House members
'Senator' is the official honorary for Senate members
congress is a general collective term
no one was bashing 'congress'.
you read an awful lot into a single post. that makes me think something else was really bothering you and the post was just an opportunity for you to vent.
your cheering section doesn't help. it just means more people missed the point.
You guys will see those four faces getting out of dodge in a hurry - and they will be bound for paraguay - where, i might add, gw purchased a 100,000 acre ranch. They will run to that country and live under the protection of amnesty. Thanks to nancy pelosi who said "impeachment if off the table" - gwbush and his merry band of thieves will not suffer for what they have done to americans - "we the people" have suffered and will suffer more.
I agree that the photo is an insult to the beatles - but bush and co is quite an insult to the americans and the soldiers fighting.
[Don't post in ALL CAPS-Sitemonitor]
Here's my preferences:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qf8y7v0WIE
&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyjxb9m5edI
xoites defends Constitution @ 86:
Howzaboot a movie after supper: The Passion of boosh?
How about a photoshopped painting of the Signing of the Declaration of Independence starring booshco and the peeknickers?
That's wrong. Its just wrong, I say!
Sacrilege.
rain @ 88:
Post a source for your claim about a Paraguay ranch.
Here's a thunk:
http://www.arcamax.com/zits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqOKvonLrH8
whoa, Condi's hot as a dude. My loins stir.
Dude, you are going to the wrong places.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8fNDfdjXd8
If anyone has a decent photoshop of the Bush last supper send it to me. O'Really nailed to a cross is okay by me, too. - Bluegal
bluegalsblog AT gmail DOT com.
diana @ 64: Nancy Pelosi is reported to have replied to the question of impeachment that if she received 10,000 hand written letters she would proceed with it. What are we waiting for?"
Rumors will not change the facts. There are not enough votes to carry impeachment (-30 votes) and something like 40 Senators short of conviction.
It would go up, it would go down, and right before it is defeated it would be sent back to the HJC,
WHERE IT WOULD AWAIT NOT LETTERS TO THE SPEAKER, BUT TO ANY REPUBLICAN WHO MIGHT CHANGE THEIR ALLEGIANCE.
Kenny @ 94 "Post a source for your claim about a Paraguay ranch."
It's for real. They have bought up a very large tract of land next to the Parana river. Inland, no global warming danger, the second largest river in S. America, a righwing gov't with NO extradition, and friendly banks.
CoIntelPRo @ 87 "no one was bashing 'congress'."
You are. You are talking about the Senate, and you say "Congress."
Well, we have more than SEVEN TIMES more loyal Representatives than Senators.
So when you say 'Congress' and you mean the Senate you are bashing something like 175 loyal Democrats for the actions of a handful. And that's propaganda. You don't want to spread propaganda, do you?
CoIntelPro @ 76 "by your own acknowledgement the house is the house,
the senate is the senate and neither is properly called congress."
You are showing your ignorance.
Consider this. It is the 110th Congress. In 2008, it is will be the 111th Congress. Two year Congresses, but the Senate term is SIX YEARS.
Hmm.
Ouch. Now that hurts. Please, whoever you are, remove Cheney's face away from Mr. Lennons.
this photoshopjob is misplaced on this website....
what where you thinking?
you owe an apology to your audience...
That's just wrong. R-O-N-G, wrong!
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