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It looks like we have DiFi's attention people.....

California Sen. Dianne Feinstein and the state's Democratic Party pushed back Wednesday against a proposal by a coalition of progressives to censure the four-term senator for her recent votes siding with the Bush Administration, dismissing the proposal as a distraction put forth by activists who did not speak for the majority of Democrats in the Golden State.

Rick Jacobs, founder of the Courage Campaign, one of the progressive organizations backing the censure resolution, said such statements sent the wrong message to California Democrats.

"I'm concerned that party employees don't want to hear from party members," Jacobs said. "I think such statements send a message that is very simple: that we will make the decisions and you shut up and do as your told."

The Courage Campaign (of which I'm a supporter) backed a censure motion on Dianne Feinstein recently for her behavior and the CA Democratic Party responded yesterday with this:

And here is a quote from the Senator's staff from the SacBee insider site (reg req)

Scott Gerber, a Feinstein aide, defended the senator, saying she "has been an independent voice for California."

"What people may not know is she was a strong leader in the fight against (now Supreme Court Justice Samuel) Alito and (Chief Justice John) Roberts," Gerber said, noting she opposed "more than a dozen" circuit court nominees from the Bush administration.

Calitics has a good piece on her now....

Here's what she had to say on Alito:

"I don't give heed to my personal views. What I do is I interpret the law,'" she said, quoting the 55-year-old judge from New Jersey. Feinstein said she believed Alito was sincere.

Aren't you glad that Dianne thinks he's sincere? And this:

REPORTER: Did you ask the judge about the job application issue with his comments about abortion?

SEN. FEINSTEIN: Yes, i did.

REPORTER: and…

SEN. FEINSTEIN: And what he told me was this: he said, First of all, it was different then. He said I was an advocate seeking a job, it was a political job, and that was 1985. I'm now a judge, you know, I've been on the circuit court for 15 years, and it's very different. I'm not an advocate, I don't give heed to my personal views, what I do is interpret the law. And I believe he was very sincere in what he said. And he talked about Roe in particular, about having had many views. Didn't use the word "well settled," but did use the word stare decisis. I agree with one thing. We talked about labels, and I don't really think he can be labeled in that sense. He is an independent thinker. He thinks for himself. He's got clearly a very good mind. And as I said to him, that the real part of this that matters is what you say on the record that's transcribed and becomes fact or record for all time. And that of course will begin on January the 9th.

And she refused to filibuster Alito via Face the Nation:

Ms. GREENBURG: Well, you voted against John Roberts during his hearings back in September for chief justice. Did you get a sense that Alito would be more or less conservative? Do you have greater concerns about his views on these issues?

Sen. FEINSTEIN: I would get a sense from his record, 15 years as an appellate court as well as from his answers that he would be more conservative. Now in my view, he's clearly qualified. This is--I mean, I was very impressed with his ability to maintain a very even demeanor during this entire thing and his ability not to specifically answer any questions.

SCHIEFFER: Are your concerns strong enough, Senator, then that you would support a filibuster to block him?

Sen. FEINSTEIN: I do not see the likelihood of a filibuster to be very candid with you. I don't see those kinds of egregious things emerging that would justify a filibuster. I think when it comes to filibustering a Supreme Court appointment, you really have to have something out there whether it's gross moral turpitude or something that comes to the surface. Now I mean, this is a man I might disagree with. That doesn't mean he shouldn't be on the court.

SCHIEFFER: All right.

Ms. GREENBURG: So it would be different for Supreme

I say let's keep the pressure on because she may vote to give immunity to the Telecoms...

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rasta's picture

DiFi is not a democrat....when you are you going to wake up to that?

stop treating these repuglican infiltrators with kid gloves

take them out for good.

Lynnianaa's picture

I say let’s keep the pressure on because she may vote to give immunity to the Telecoms…

CA Dianne Feinstein (202) 224-3841 (202) 228-3954

Hahaha! Why is there doubt behind those words?

jr's picture

F the establishment for carrying water for this stasiite

Pete's picture

DiFi is EVERYTHING that is wrong with America.
Goddamn these two faced Bush enabling scum.

John Amato's picture

She will vote in favor of the Telecoms...My bad...

AquaVelvaMan's picture

If only Jello Biafra could have replaced her as Mayor of SF back in the day...

Of course she'll vote to give immunity to telecoms. It's something she shouldn't do so she'll do it. Are we sure she isn't Lieberman in drag? I swear, why do people like her even call themselves Dems?

Lynnianaa's picture

5 John Amato Says:
She will vote in favor of the Telecoms…My bad…

Domo arigatou, Mr. Amato. (Sorry! Just had to get that out of my system!) =)

pernell's picture

And now for today's riddle.

What moves through the rightwing echo chamber faster than Rush's latest horsedroppings?

Answer: Joe Lieberman's horsedroppings.

pissed off patricia's picture

Feel better, lynnianaa? :)

Censure DiFi's picture

Retroactive Telecom immunity is unacceptable and flies in the face of an illegal spying program prohibited by the fourth amendment. Half democrats providing cover for corrupt republicans have to go as well.

Kyle's picture

AquaVelvaMan @ 6:

If only Jello Biafra could have replaced her as Mayor of SF back in the day...

Might have killed her career before it started, among other things. Recall time.

Lynnianaa's picture

10 pissed off patricia Says:
Feel better, lynnianaa?

Yes, Patricia. Thank you. On a more serious note, I am very concerned that my own state's democratic party is siding with Feinstein. I've always had great respect for them and the work they do, but I'm somewhat dubious about their motives. I'm just hoping they're not accomplices in her crimes.

May have to do a little sleuthing on these guys...

abarts's picture

We, as a nation, as being played as fools.

As you were.

Marcus Aurelius's picture

We have to stop referring to supporters of the Bush Administration as Democrats or Republicans. They are Fascists. Their loyalties lie with corporate interests. Unless you own a corporation, you are the fuckee, not the fucker. I guess some people like taking it roughly up the poopie chute. Hard to believe they are in the majority.

Janet's picture

Telecom immunity should never be on the table. They can use whatever excuse they want, but they broke the law. Saying that they should be immune from prosecution because bush told them to do it is like saying Joe Sixpack, who murdered his wife, should be immune from prosecution because his girlfriend told him to do it. The other excuse is that it will cost the telecom companies so much money for trials. Boo fucking Hoo!!!

L.A. Confidential's picture

Corporations have become the downfall of America. Unbridled greed.

Janet's picture

“I’m concerned that party employees don’t want to hear from party members,” Jacobs said. “I think such statements send a message that is very simple: that we will make the decisions and you shut up and do as your told.”

This is exactly right.

kindness's picture

DiFi - Karma is gonna get you. I voted for you and I'm kicking myself now.

You suck. Do the honorable thing and resign now.

Father Tyme's picture

“I’m concerned that party employees don’t want to hear from party members,” Jacobs said. “I think such statements send a message that is very simple: that we will make the decisions and you shut up and do as your told.”

We are Democrats, not Republicans.

We don't need big mother to tell us what to do.

We can think for ourselves, thank you!

LanceThruster's picture

Sen. Fineswine knows which side her bread is buttered on.

hope's picture

Why is it that every time a large number of citizens take time to let politicians know what issues are important to them, it's labeled a "distraction". What patronizing tools these people are.

L.A. Confidential's picture

The "enemy" (foreign or domestic) is a crafty creature but he's/she's not crafty enough. It's getting to the point where he/she may be able to deceive even the very ELECT.

foolme1ns's picture

Well I wouldn't expect anything else from the democrats we've got right now. Gutless, spineless wonders.

hope's picture

If they refuse to censure her, how about a major outcry for an investigation into conflict of interest due to her husband's business dealings?

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Otay's picture

California is one of the most progressive states. And yet we have one of the most corporatist senators. But shame on us - we keep voting her in.

mudshark's picture

How she can call herself a Democrat is beyond me.Don't be surprised if she pulls a Lieberman

mudshark's picture

Otay @ 27:

California is one of the most progressive states. And yet we have one of the most corporatist senators. But shame on us - we keep voting her in.

sadly i did.....but this is her last term and we're seeing her true colors.....now more so than ever.

purvis ames's picture

Dianne Feinstein and her husband are despicable San Francisco slumlords and always have been. What do you expect?

Houston's picture

Feinstein has a history of sucking up anything big, military, or corporate. She is a perfect example of everything that is wrong with this country.

ronik's picture

kindness @ 19:

DiFi - Karma is gonna get you. I voted for you and I'm kicking myself now.

You suck. Do the honorable thing and resign now.

I've been sending her emails for about a year now asking her to save this country by resigning so we can get someone in her job who will actually represent the people that she is supposed to "serve".

I've never gotten a response.

Not a surprise.

Interpreter of Maladies's picture

How do we beat the bitch?

della Rovere's picture

Lieberwoman.

Bill T.'s picture

We should ammend the Constitution to replace impeachment with a National Recall. Take Congress out of the equation all together and give the people the power to recall any elected official. Any recall election will be financed by the pension fund of the affected congressperson.

goatsage's picture

"It is going to be thrown out and rejected," said Bob Mulholland, a veteran party strategist in Sacramento. "Sometimes people can't anticipate or can't understand the big picture."

Yes, children, let the grown-ups decide what is right for you. WE have the big picture, umm, pass that cocktail weenie would you?

William's picture

Recall the old hag.

mike's picture

isn't there a way to recall the pig? or do we need a piece of crap like Issa to fund it?

hope's picture

Apparently the FISA bill has been sent from committee to the Senate without retroactive immunity included in it. Feinstein's gonna have to get on this and offer an amendment.

Rub R. D'Key's picture

Like "ronik" posted, I've sent her hundreds of e-mails complaining of her lack of listening to the people. I've yet to to get a reply. I'd like to see censure or recall. Bless the folks who camp out on her and Pelosi's front lawn. They are true patriots.

Ex-Canuck's picture

Censure resolution sure speaks for me! Because of DiFi's consistent siding with the criminals in the WH, I left the demoquack party some months ago. She is no longer my senator, and as such shouldn't be in the senate.

The support she got in the last election was high because it also included the sheep in the demoquack party that vote that way whoever is running. Why should the repuke party be the only one who has sheep that vote that way? Too many folks just don't give a shit about what is going on in this country unless it directly affects them. As long as they eat and live well, who cares about those who are really losing out in this country as a result of the cheney/bush administration - and those enablers in the demoquack party who help things along in a "Vichy" sort of way.

Otay's picture

Roger Salazar of the California Democratic Party:

"This party supports our Democratic senator and will continue to do so," said party communications director Roger Salazar. "Period."

Translation:

Be gone with you, Riffraff. We will tell you what is best for you. Your leaders have spoken.

bilhelm-X's picture

I agree, ditch that bitch. Senator hairdon't, we're all out of Aquanet!

Otay's picture

bilhelm-X @ 43:

I agree, ditch that bitch. Senator hairdon't, we're all out of Aquanet!

Unfortunately, we can't. There are no provisions for recall of a Federal representative.

Beau Jangles's picture

DiFi and hubby are war profiteers.

bethincary's picture

Was watching the local news the other night here in NC.
Apparently in Fayetteville preferential treatment was made for a man involved and culpable for it-by the police. The victim, I believe was the one charged ultimately.

At the most recent city council meeting there-citizens WENTOF on the council and wanted censure of the councilmemebr which failed.
They did however, get the council to agree to an independent council or investigation into it's own actions.
While some may think this is the "fox guarding the henhouse"-perhaps in such cases-citizens can do independent unpaid work on such investigations to get to the bottom of such cronyism.

Perhaps this could be an option for the California Democrats unhappy with DiFi.

bethincary's picture

Sorry, referring to an MVA as the "it".

skippy's picture

pissed off patricia @ 7:

of course she'll vote to give immunity to telecoms. it's something she shouldn't do so she'll do it. are we sure she isn't lieberman in drag? i swear, why do people like her even call themselves dems?

more like the fact that she and her hubby made millions from defense contracting, so, tho it's not exactly the same industry, i still think it's peter principle-type logic at work here...she won't screw the billionaire corporations doing government defense work, because she does work with billionaire corporations doing government defense work.

i say recall her ass, and the rest of her too.

justcurious's picture

Thank god for crooks and liars.

Incredible as it may sound, this blog seems like its one of the few accurate sources of news coming out of your country today.

Jack Damage's picture

I'm totally pissed with DiFi and the Dem party.. Yet I can't go repub.... I'd just as soon gouge my own eyes out first... All I can say at this point regarding the official party line to not support censure of DiFi which while as a practical matter is little more than a symbolic fuck you lady, would nontheless put her on notice officially that she pissed off her voters. You people of the CA Dem officialdom are plainly cowards!...Gutless cowards!!!!

As for granting the telcoms immunity.. I don't have the words to describe my outrage but I am considering telling ATT&T to just turn my line off, ripping my phone of the wall and pitching it thru the nearest ATT&T office window with a sincere fuck you note...
The idea of gving them even one more penny for a phone line makes me want to bash my phone to pieces with a ballpeen hammer at this point.

Overall, pretty much a near perfect way to ruin the dem party prospects going forward into the future.. Maybe this might be the impetus to get a grass roots ligitimate third party going...I don't know if that constitutes a plus or not.... Disgusting, just totally disgusting.................JD

anwaya's picture

Well, well, well. The California Democratic Party has a blog: the latest blog entry there has only one comment - in support of the DiFi censure motion.

I also just called the Los Angeles California Democratic Party switchboard and found out that bloggers with appropriate credentials have blogged from Executive Board Meetings before - which is where the censure motion will be debated. The calendar entry for the meeting lists partyservices (at) cadem.org as a contact. If you're a registered California Democrat, I can't think of a reason not to write and let them know about Telco Immunity and the 4th Amendment, Mukasey and waterboarding, Roberts and Alito, and the censure motion.

If anyone knows any bloggers who are going, I think it would be great to get coverage of the debate.

hope's picture

justcurious @ 49:

Thank god for crooks and liars.

Incredible as it may sound, this blog seems like its one of the few accurate sources of news coming out of your country today.

Sadly, your statement doesn't sound incredible. We've lived with the lying MSM for so long, blogs like C&L are pure gold.

Paul in LA's picture

skippy @ 48 "i say recall her ass, and the rest of her too."

There IS NO federal recall.

Paul in LA's picture

Jack Damage @ 50 "I'm totally pissed with DiFi and the Dem party."

The Democratic CONGRESS will tomorrow vote on FISA RESTORE, which has NEVER contained an offer of immunity for past or future telecom crimes. Raw Story:

The [House] bill, which will be voted on later Thursday, does not include a provision to grant legal immunity to telecommunications companies that the Bush administration has demanded and it restores the role of the FISA court in approving surveillance methods used by the National Security Agency that could ensnare Americans.

I could wait another decade for anyone to notice that the House, contrary to what was printed here, and roostered from the housetops by Glenn Greenwald, the House has never offered immunity for those crimes, and is not going to tomorrow either.

Will the Speaker and the rest of the House leadership (especially Chairmen Conyers and Reyes) EVER get any credit for doing the right thing?

They will not. The Dem-bashing will continue, because scapegoating at least provides for a focus of an anger that really needs to be applied to the media and the R party, with an intensity that leftists exempt themselves from. FAR EASIER to lump the two parties together, ignore and downplay Dem accomplishments, and pretend to third party movements which will STILL only represent a fraction of ten percent of the country next year, regardless of how much the pretense of nay-voting on passing bills makes their followers feel like heroes.

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hope @ 39:

apparently the fisa bill has been sent from committee to the senate without retroactive immunity included in it. feinstein's gonna have to get on this and offer an amendment.

you beat me to the punch. thinkprogress has the skippy, er, i mean, skinny.

and i found out after writing my "recall" comment that there is no recalling senators. so i guess censure. and then finding a progressive to run against her next time.

Jack Damage's picture

Paul in L.A.

I just heard the FISA bill passed without the telcom immunity partion... I don't know how many people got on their knees or what kind of arm twisting or not went on.. But for just this one moment, and given all the rest of the bad news lately... I'm gonna enjoy this tiny little victory for the right to privacy for all U.S. citizens and the idea that those telcoms who engaged in this henous practice still have to sweat the load... I think you and I can both say yah us, yah America, at the same time... At least in this instance... I'm still disgusted with Difi, but I think you and I are on the same page on that one anyway....JD

Paul in LA's picture

Hoyer:

"Finally, the legislation is silent on the issue of retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies that possibly violated privacy laws in turning over consumer information to the government. We don't make that judgment today -- we need to review information to know what was done, before we immunize conduct which we do not know. Simply stated, it would be grossly irresponsible for Congress to grant a blanket immunity for companies without even knowing whether their conduct was legal, appropriate, reasonable, or not."

Now, the reason why I bother to record Hoyer's words is that this is, I hope, a sufficiently strong DLC objection that maybe the conference committee version of the FISA rewrite won't add an immunity from the Senate (or one that did not pass the Senate, for that matter).

Paul in LA's picture

Jack Damage @ 56 "I just heard the FISA bill passed without the telcom immunity partion."

The Senate so far as I know has not voted on it yet.

The House bill which I think you're hearing about, NEVER HAD ANY IMMUNITY IN IT.

Paul in LA's picture

skippy @ 55 "apparently the fisa bill has been sent from committee to the senate without retroactive immunity included in it."

I think you have that wrong. I think the Feingold amendment in committee FAILED, and so the immunity profer is going to the Senate floor for vote.

Paul in LA's picture

Oh, I see, the amendment was stripped to get it out of committee without Senator Dodd's blocking it.

Feinstain will be right back with the amendment on the Senate floor, which will most likely pass.

This is only a temporary victory, but good show nonetheless.

Jack Damage's picture

Paul in L.A...... (sigh)......thanks for the update... I've think I've had enough for this day..... At least the house wasn't buying immunity....from jump street (the beginning) as you say. Maybe the senate will find some courage to hold these people accountable.. but I ain't going to hold my breath..... later....JD

GMB's picture

ronik @ 32:

kindness @ 19:

DiFi - Karma is gonna get you. I voted for you and I'm kicking myself now.

You suck. Do the honorable thing and resign now.

I've been sending her emails for about a year now asking her to save this country by resigning so we can get someone in her job who will actually represent the people that she is supposed to "serve".

I've never gotten a response.

Not a surprise.

I'm with you, ronik. I've been sending regular emails, and even a printed letter via the USPS, and haven't heard back. I wasn't even pushing her to resign, just to do her job. I finally had it and called the local (SF) office to find out what her position was on telecom immunity (this was a while ago), and I got the brush off, a fair amount of condescension, and then they hung up on me. I didn't say "bitch", "traitor", or "go fuck yourself" even once.

If anybody thinks she or the CA Democratic Party give half a shit about what we think, you are seriously deluded, and I'd like to try some of the drugs you're on.

Paul in LA's picture

Feinstain won last year by a 22% margin. To expect the CA Dem Party to censure a just-reelected Senator with that kind of margin is hopeless from the start.

She hasn't changed her stripes. She's the same elitist she has always been. While I would have been glad to participate in a fight against her seat last year, this is all water under the bridge politically.

It is hard enough removing an incumbent Senator at elections. It is impossible to remove them by other means later.

L.A. Confidential @ 17:

Corporations have become the downfall of America. Unbridled greed.

That about says it all.

swarmofkillermonkeys's picture

Sen. FEINSTEIN: I would get a sense from his record, 15 years as an appellate court as well as from his answers that he would be more conservative. Now in my view, he’s clearly qualified. This is–I mean, I was very impressed with his ability to maintain a very even demeanor during this entire thing and his ability not to specifically answer any questions.

Then I really don't think she has a fucking clue what he is actually being hired for. As in, providing the specific ANSWERS for complex problems in dispute.

Not to mention the while point in her role in oversight is to vet him on those specific questions! She's impressed at his lackey-ness!

I'm sorry Californians, but she's either a fucking idiot, or corrupt.

bmw 528's picture

Otay @ 42:

Roger Salazar of the California Democratic Party:

"This party supports our Democratic senator and will continue to do so," said party communications director Roger Salazar. "Period."

Translation:

Be gone with you, Riffraff. We will tell you what is best for you. Your leaders have spoken.

Silence whippersnapper! The great and powerful Oz has spoken! Pay no attention to that hag behind the curtain!

Pursang's picture

hope @ 22:

Why is it that every time a large number of citizens take time to let politicians know what issues are important to them, it's labeled a "distraction". What patronizing tools these people are.

Because politicians, regardless of party, don't like to be watched. If we're actually awake and involved they can't pull their usual stunts, stunts that make them money and increase their own power base. So everytime we the people stand up to them they're going to pull together to knock us back down. I don't like to stereotype people so I will note that there are some good ones (Feingold comes readily to mind). The vast majority of them are like DiFi and Lieberman though, only looking out for themselves and their crony buddies.

Just my 2 cents...

CoIntelPro's picture

I’m concerned that party employees don’t want to hear from party members,”

There! I fixed it!

CoIntelPro's picture

Paul in LA @ 57:

DLC will include immunity. Bet on it.

Sorry.

Proud Americans's picture

The Bush administration has done a good job in redeeming political payback (favors from political colleages that has profitted from their War-Time ventures). In many cases, almost anything bush asked for. This is the political capital that Bush spoke about during his enagural ceremony. Bush said that during his presidency he said: " I intend to spend it (referring to his political capital/mandate).

In this case Dianne Feinstein has to payback favors the Bush Administration (from inside tips of multi-billion dollars war-profitting through investment in in the war in IRAQ).

It has been known Dianne Feinstein and her husband, Richard C. Blum, made out tons of money from the Iraq war the same way that Dick Cheney and Bush Administration.

It was an insider tip that got their friends to profit from stock profits, etc.

Blum's business Perini Corp, like KBR/Halliburton/Blackwater/GE/Bechtel has been awarded BILLIONS dollars worth of contracts in the war in Iraq.

Our elected officials was suppose to be the gatekeepers and does the oversight from these abuses; itstead we learn that they used these power mainly for their personal enrichment.

Dianne Feinstein was able to do damage control when this was found out by censuring the mainstream media from disclosing these facts from the general public. Since Bush administration is well connected to the mainstream media and wall street; it was evidently easier to manage "DAMAGE CONTROL" for Dianne Feinstein political follies.

It is no surprise to me if many more of our elected officials (repub and dems) are all in it for the same game. WE just have NOT YET discover it for now.
WE THE PEOPLE must continue to keep a close eye on them. FOLLOW THE MONEY..........auditors.

To censure Dianne Feinstein is merely a slap on the hand and would only slow down the abuse and encourage the corrupt to be more careful from getting caught.

The first clue to any corruption is the elected officials senseless VOTE that contradict their party platform and their VOTING HISTORY. The second, the financial backing for their campaign and the background of the campaign contributors. Third the flow of money and the sudden increase of the elected official's wealth and investment portfolios.

A perfect example and a questions we must asked ourselves:

How did the Clintons become an instant multi-millionaires being President for only two terms at a modest salarly paid to a PRESIDENT? Investment portfolio? perhaps through insider tip on stock investments and kickbacks for government contract deals. Money from foreign allies hidden in off-shore and foreign accounts.

Who pays for these deals executed by our elected officials? WE THE PEOPLE......through TAX COLLECTION. Our collective pool of tax dollars in FEDERAL TREASURY ACCOUNT is the one biggest holder of our funds that elected officials squander to pay for business deals that enriches corporations like Halliburton through no-bid contracts. Account that is in the control of our government officials. The LOSES from abuses and the looting of our tax dollars becomes the PEOPLES LOSES.

Paul in LA's picture

CoIntelPro @ 69:

Paul in LA @ 57:

DLC will include immunity. Bet on it.

They did not include it in the House, where they have their biggest hitters.

It's easy to predict failure. You can even help.

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