Joe Scarborough Shows His True Partisan Colors On Morning Joe
By Logan Murphy Friday Nov 23, 2007 11:00am
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Friday's Morning Joe on MSNBC marks the day when host Joe Scarborough officially abandoned his "middle man" act and returned to his highly partisan, right wing roots. Earlier this week, Alabama football coach Nick Saban compared his team's recent losses to 9/11 and Pearl Harbor. Yeah. Scarborough, a die hard Alabama fan, was off the day Saban made his comments and co-host Willie Geist brings up an offensive e-mail he sent (partial transcript pictured above) that day to defend the coach's ridiculous remarks. Geist suggests the e-mail was written tongue in cheek, but Scarborough stands behind his words.
I don't give a damn about Alabama football, what I'm concerned about is the way Joe chose to offend victims of real tragedy by comparing their suffering to a football loss? -- because it's his favorite college football team? WTF do liberals have to do with a coach's self-involved idiotic remarks? E-mail Joe (scroll down for e-mail section) and let him know how you feel about his comments.
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Surely he's a Giuliani backer.....
i think you're mischaracterizing this clip. i'm pretty sure joe was kidding.
i say choose your battles.
You know what, I'm tired of people using 9/11 like some justification card for ANYTHING they want to say or do. Countries around the world suffer disastrous events ALL the time, thousands of people die ALL the time in violent attacks, but the U.S. is the only one parading 9/11 as if it's the only one on earth in the history of the human race to suffer such an event. I'm frankly tired of the whiners and the cry babies. Perhaps a little self-reflection is in order.
My problem is that I already KNOW that Scarborough is disgusting, lying, partisan, Republican scum. How is this different?
Maybe his sentiments are honest and heartfelt: these rightwing twerps think of politics as a sport and are damn near ignorant of the reality. The damage these idiots due is immeasurable.
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Good thing Sabin isn't still at LSU, yesterday would have been Armageddon.
Conservatives condone killing for oil and evidently now for football... what is next? Killing for votes?
is this a good distraction?
i think this post is a little reaching
i'm usually only offended by the big stuff
president's lying and shit like that
Did they ever find who killed the girl in Scarborough's office?
actually,
this is hilarious!!!!!!!!!
What are you picking on Joe Scarborough for? This is obviously Bill Clinton's fault!
I've reached the '9-11 saturation point'. It's been used so inappropriately and so often that it is pretty much meaningless now.
But when someone does mention it I immediately think of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and wonder how THOSE people felt.
anyone who had a dead girl found in his office...can't be trusted..and that's a good question YBNurmal.I think they ruled it a suicide......but still..correct me if I'm wrong...that would mean he was cheating on his wife.
Lets give him the name Joe "Dirt" Scorborough.
Like Alien says, I think he was joking.
Joe wasn't in the studio when the Saban quote was played on his show. When his email "response" to the uproar was played by Mika (before this clip), there was laughter in the studio.
I took it as satire.
That being said, Saban is an idiot, and as someone who is not into sports, I will never understand his kind of mentality.
First Repubs politicized the Religion, then the Justice Dept, the Pentagon, the War, your gender, patriotism, being American, French fries to Freedom Fries, Health Care, FEMA, the News, even the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and in our schools.
They make claim to NAZCAR and Hunting. Now it is College Football ?
They want all sports to be political. You know, so if a Republican sports team owner's pro-team wins a championship. They can boast how neo conservatism works.
After all George Bush was a cheer leader...Not the school President of something where he might of really lead.
Mother Jones magazine used to give out awards for the dumbest members of Congress, and Joe practically retired the thing, having won, like, every year he was there.
Some things never change.
Yikes! Both comments were made in exceedinglypoor taste.
Let's call his show "Morning Joke" cuz that man's just not a serious pundit/reporter at all.
if a liberal made comments like that...referring to 9/11 and or Pearl Harbor......they'd go into full attack mode...and we'de here about it for weeks on end
Yes, I have to agree with commenter "alien" here. I am no fan at all of Scarborough, but it seems pretty clear to me that he's kidding here. Ok, obviously, he's not coming at this from the perspective of Howard Zinn or your average thoughtful liberal or leftist, but he seems to get it that it was, at the very least, a really STUPID comparison to make. He seems to be making fun of the coach as far as I can tell.
I don't think there's anything at all to scold him for here....
Robt, thanks for bringing up the next irony: Republican sports team.
How can repugs be fans of sports when they are so highly regulated by a central governing authority? Imagine a "free market" NFL where each team makes it's own rules, teams can move at will and they hire the cheapest players to do the job. Would the loss of a game be sufficient reason (a 9/11 moment) to invade another country for their player resources?
I don't care much about some football coach's stupid comments. Jocks are supposed to be stupid.
However, I do have a problem with Scarborough saying:
Where on earth does he get off making that asinine remark? If anything, it's he who does not treat these events as catastrophic by defending their comparison to a football game.
Nick Saban is lying twit. He has no integrity and his word means shit. Ask any MSU or LSU fan, student, or alumni. If Joe thinks that pile of crap stands for Alabama, then he should think again because Saban will screw over any team to one up himself for personal gain no matter the cost. Hmmm.... actually, Saban fits the Republican mold pretty damn well.
Oh my god.......the crap that comes out of peoples mouth that some people think is newsworthy.
How can someone compare the disasters that were Pearl Harbour and 9/11 with a team's losing season? YOUR TEAM SUCKS! GET ON WITH LIFE. There will be another football season next year.
Got to tell you this is pretty clearly a joke. I love you guys but you are going to make a fool of yourselves here.
Analogy: Similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar.
Why is that so hard to comprehend. My liberal allies are embarassing to me at the moment.
9/11?
It's my birthday, and that's all it is.
Things happen every day of the year. Bad things happen on some days of the year.
I'm damn sick and tired of the 9/11 cottage industry.
Nov. 22, Dec. 7, Aug. 6, Sept. 11 -- they're dates on the calendar. Quit the rending of garments and gnashing of teeth. Sure, a tragedy happened that day, but it's done and over with. And I'm not certain that our own government wasn't complicit in it.
OK, rant over.
Oh, and Scarborough is a first-rate assclown. Hmm, I do still wonder what really happened to that intern in his office. Since he's a Repug, the whole thing got swept under the carpet rather quickly.
"Hey Joe,
I just saw your comment defending the Alabama football's coaches comparison between their loss and 9/11. I'm just curious when you throw out that term liberal, what exactly does it mean to you? If it wasn't for liberals then women wouldn't be voting, there would be no G.I. Bill, labor laws, environmental laws, Food safety laws, SOCIAL SECURITY, and the list goes on and on......so where do you get this notion that "liberals" didn't see 9/11 as a catastrophic event? Just because we don't feel the need to exploit it at every turn like the current president and his administration doesn't mean that it affected us any less. I remember that day very vividly including the overwhelming sense of connection I felt with EVERYONE when I went to do something as simple as go to the grocery store. Unfortunately there are people like you in this country and on our airwaves that do everything possible to pit people against each other and hurl titles with no facts to back them up. You claim to be in the middle but you are far from it. On a side note I have really enjoyed Mika giving you tons of grief on your show and then watching as you completely devolve into a whiny man-child. Morning Mika has a better ring to it anyways."
MSGOP indeed.
Joe Scarborough is starting down the long low ratings path of Tucker Calson.
Why you think that MSNBC took him out of the primetime slot? Supposedly to retain Imus's right-wing audience. I think it was to kill two birds with one stone. To retain that audience and to help his personal ratings. Scarborough had a tough time playing after Olbermann.
Scarborough and his MSNBC right-wing overlords just can't remove themselves from their self-serving fantasy bubble. They throw a little right-wing coded language red meat to their dwindling red state masses. If it works on Rush Limbaugh, it must work on mainstream media. Then they fall all over themselves to retain the image of good 'ol center right fun.
Good post, Jason Goad.
Of course liberals see Pearl Harbor and 9/11 as catastrophic. For a twit such as Holy Joe to say that we don't is utterly asinine.
Gawd, these reich-wingers are a piece of work ...
Apparently MSN didn't want to make anyone think about the tragic loss we Americans all suffered 44 years from the 22nd of Nov, because no news station even mention JFK's assination. Is that because it is something our current admin feels is something they would like not revisited.
No sorry, but he abandoned it a long time ago...I used to watch Imus and was often irritated by him, but when Joe took over the morning show took a hard turn to the right, and I stopped watching it almost immediatey...
He's been showing his true facist colors for a long time, even before his morning show!
i love sports almost all sports. but when saban compares his losing season to 911 or pearl harbor, he crosses a line. and when scarborough states that liberals don't care about the victims of 911 he assumes a little too much. he needs to be castigated for this or fired. what he has done is far more damaging than what others have done on the air and it's resulted in firing. that's too much to hope for. this is just another sorry chapter of shame in our nation.
Jason Goad @ 29:
jason great summation of what most of us are feeling. how can scarborough see this.
Joe was such a loser that Olbermann revealed his bootlicking, asskissing, ignorance to a point that they moved him to the morning show. Joe is not very smart...that is why he is a 24%er.
I just went over to the darkside(repug site) and they're calling for an apology from Saban......(one site).....no mention of Joe"Dirt" Scarborough.
MSNBC shutdown Scarborough's email. I suspect this Fascist F**K got hammered with negative emails! What a dumb f**king Florida HICK!!!
kasinca @ 38:
they needed someone to fill Imus's slot......toss up....Tucker or Joe Dirt?.....
Scarbo is an ass--how this clown got a job on television is beyond me. He is very limited in his thinking and not very bright.
Why did he leave congress so soon after getting elected in '94? I know his marriage broke up and he remarried but was he ethically challenged or what?
Once Imus is back on television Scarbo will be history--sadly, he'll take Mika Brezenzski down with him. Now there is a real professional reporter!
Morning Joe is just awful!! Kudos to those who can sit through it.
"Joe The Ignorant" tossing bread to Joe Six Pack the Ignorant.
What a combo
(Forgive me Lord for being judgmental)
why does this guy always look loaded?
Why does this surprise anybody? Scarborough is a rethug. Slightly mild of mouth, compared to the others, maybe.
One day the thick headed programmers at MSNBC will get it and realize that the wingnuts watch Fox. (Not sure why wingnuts are such a valued audience, didn't think adult diapers brought in that much revenue.)
Nick Saban is an asshole. The Tide is 6-5. And the citizens of Alabama are paying him what?
At least we got Keith.
“Just because liberals do not see 9/11 and Pearl Harbor as catastrophic events…”
This makes Imus look like a genius. This is a STUPID thing to say joke or not.
The show was ok at the start but is getting worse all the time and he is the reason. The rest of the people are great, and the show is best when he is not there, go figure.
Oh and I REALLY wish he would stop telling us every 10 minutes that he was a loser Congressman.
Get a job, be honest, and you too someday can be a Joe Scarborough.
"Well did you here that son. Don't ya want to be like Joe? Think about it son. Ya kin be on TeEvEe and u'll be evereeones Hero!"
alien @ 2:
I'd have to agree with you on this.
Must be a slow news day.
Cheney @ 3:
9/11 (A registered trademark of Giuliani Partners) Was An Inside Job.
no longer a proud american @ 36:
Are you kidding me? It's an analogy. He was kidding to an extent. I mean, I agree with you guys 99% of the time. But Nick Saban wasn't comparing football to 9/11, he was comparing the social outcomes of a catastrophic event of both. Obviously 9/11 is much bigger, but the process of bad things happen, so people change... isn't that an evolution idea? He was just using those examples because everyone knows of them. it sounds like you all are taking this out of context to smear Scarborough and Saban because they're from alabama whether that wasn't your intention or not. ironically, i think Joe made such a incendiary and sarcastic remark for a reason, and he's standing by it because the initial controversy was ridiculous. That's Joe's personality. I say he duped you all.
WHO CARES?!?!?!!?
Who cares about Scarborough?
There are much bigger fish to fry out there.
It's time for the Circle Jerking with Joe Scarborough show.
Hey honey, bring me a beer and the remote. A mans gotta' do what a mans' gotta' do.
Don't you know
Thats it's true
That to me
And to you
The World is a CIRCLE JERK
Later guys. This is getting ludicrous.
Brian @ 51:
No it's just typical repug games.....say something incendiary, then backtrack and say people need to lighten up because you were just kidding. Complete passive aggressive behavior. Like someone said earlier, if a "liberal" would have said the same thing, his patriotism would have been questioned and his name drug through the mud. For the longest time I tolerated Joe Scarborough and wasn't really that bothered by him till he had that one tantrum about the Iraqi people needing to quit complaining about Blackwater because we could always just pack up all our toys and leave them to fend for themselves, which in my opinion would be probably better for them.
Just tried to send him a Mail, its a no-go, "Server Error"
O/T: Wait until you see the lineup for tomorrow mornings talkshows. I just went over to check @ Politico and it is a "winger" Sunday. Andrew Sullivan with George Stephanopoulos and Carville and Matalin with Fat Timmeh.
Of course there are no progressives on.
I hope C&L will cover these shows tomorrow so I don't have to watch. Thanks.
More proof that NBC and MSNBC are completely librul outlets.
Jason Goad @ 54:
I'm sorry, I'm not a neoconservative. I dont smear people like they do and don't tend on starting to play their games. You don't like it when Rush Limbaugh complains about some stupid liberal gaffe. How is this, namely on this progressive blog, any different? I guess if you want to give your base something to complain about (and Email Joe about), wonderful. But I don't play their games because I'm sensible and pick my battles to further the big picture.
Uhm, folks, you missed the joke. Funny or not, Joe a jerk or not, it was a joke. Personally, I think it was a bit of a shot at his own people.
Mark @ News Corpse @ 23:
Oh for the love of Pete. it, was, a, JOKE! We're supposed to be the ones with the sense of humour. Scarborough's email made it seem that the Arizona whoevers losing WAS a catastrophic event, he was clearly ridiculing the coach- should we really muster outrage for this?
Imus will wax him on Dec 3.
Jason Goad @ 54:
For example, Conservapedo's entry for Chuck Norris: To thwart this menace of secularization, Norris has light-heartedly promised that if elected President he would "tattoo an American flag with the words, 'In God we trust.' on the forehead of every atheist" and deport all Liberals. (emp mine)
The 'just kidding!' crap is getting annoying.
My favorite entry on Conservapedia is the one for Unicorns. Especially this sentence.
"The existence of unicorns is controversial"
Yeah, REAL controversial.
Paddywhack @ 60:
Joke or not - the fact that he said "liberals do not see 9/11 and Pearl Harbor as catastrophic events..." truly pisses me off. It's just amazing how the media has painted "liberals" as some evil group of loonies when "liberals" are the ones who care most about humanity and the planet. Corporate America, what a bunch of fuckers- and the blind fearful narrowminded sheeple will continue to vote for the greedy selfish bastard republican hypocrites.
Scarborough has it backwards, of course. Of course liberals see 9-11 and Pearl Harbor as catastrophes. It's that we DON'T think a football game rises to that level. Joe Scarborough -- what a jackass.
Brian @ 50:
I agree with Brian completely. Considering I am from Alabama and Saban even said that he wasn't comparing the actual incidents to the game, only that as America came back strong AFTERWARDS, so Bama football will have to do the same. Trust me, the loss to ULM was a pretty catastrophic loss for the program the week before the Auburn game. Saban was relating that maybe that was a wakeup call for the team. What amazes me, and I am also a liberal, is that some people can even SAY during their remarks that they are not saying something and they will still be accused of saying it. That being said, what Joe said was pretty damn stupid since liberals are not the bogeyman either. Saban should have compared it to losing a bunch of NASCAR races.
Paddywhack @ 60:
He may have meant it as joke, and I agree in this context it was suppose to be funny, but considering reich-wingers actually believe this perverse view it's not a far stretch to believe Scarborough (R) has bought into this reich-wing talking point.
1). Saban is an even bigger asshole than his buddy Bill Belichick. Saban's never seen a coachin' position he didn't wanna leverage fer another coachin' position. MSU/LSU/Dolphins/'Bama...where next, Nick?
2). You guys have gotta calm down. Scarborough is guilty of nothin' but the hyperbole of fanaticism- not political fanaticism, but the sports version. Where do ya think the word fan- when used to describe an ardent sports supporter- comes from.
If any of ya out there consider yerselves fans of anything- sports, film, poetry, Ron Paul- yer probably engagin' in the same type of hyperbole, because yer probably not really fanatical about the subject. Okay, maybe the Ron Paul fans are...just sayin'.
I'm so tired of pompus jackasses who stand on soapboxes and lecture everyone about what we're supposed to think... when the subject in question is a pompus jackass who stood on a soapbox.
We're not supposed to have any opinions of our own when it comes to domestic policy, foreign policy, the environment, the war, etc., but they're so quick to tell us how we must respond to someone's opinion of these topics.
What poster #65 said.
It's just a football game.
I'm glad that Scarborough didn't call fer more blitzes from the 'Bama D, or more long bombs from the Tide's aerial attack...Think of all of the WW II survivors he woulda pissed off!
the morning program morning joe could not possibly suck anymore than it already has shown. why is it that cable news can not simply put on an a.m. program that has less forced personality and more straight up news. every time i have tried to watch this repube-o-tainment i have been amazed at it's ignorance, arrogance and outright uninformative nature. doesn't anyone else notice that when the talking head has no personality traits, he can not magically produce them. if he could, my guess is that he would be an actor instead of a thinly vailed apologist for a party that has harmed this country greatly in the past 7 years.
Andy K @ 68: o
Western Oregon A&M State Tech is looking for a new coach. Saban saw his pinnacle with LSU...it "only" took 20 years to finally manage a champion.
911 was the day that a billion Americans died.
It sent OBL to the top of the list of worst murderers of all time.
Passing Gengis Khan, Hitler and Stalin in one move.
Vengeance will take forever.
So let me get this straight:
I'm supposed to be interested in anything either Joe Scarborough or Nick Saban (who ever the f*ck that is) has to say about anything?
Guess what? I'm not.
Let me guess?????...His comment was taken out of context........again?....to say such stupid things when the country is at war(yeah..I know).....just shows how concerned they are about the countries future.And Johnny2Bad........more power to ya.
Alabama, huh? Another piece of the puzzle.
...um, I eem to recall that Franklin Roosevelt, arguably the most liberal President in the history of our country, saw Pearl Harbor as a catastrophic event. I think he even mentioned it in a speech he gave the next day; something about a "Day of Infamy"?
He then set about defeating Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany in this little mix-up called World War II. (Or as Nick Saban calls it "World War Two...or whatever")
F.U., Scarborough, you myopic, boneheaded pissant fratboy. If it wasn't for Liberals you'd be speaking German right now.
Oh, and one more thing, in case anybody has forgotten:
http://www.americanpolitics.com/20010808Klausutis.html
http://www.allhatnocattle.net/congressman_joe_scarborough.htm
Did he really say the liberals do not care about Pearl Harbor? They don't care about 9/11?
Why doesn't he put on a uniform like this liberal did during Vietnam and then he can talk.
Is Joe just another chickenhawk like the rest of them? Say it a'int so Joe.
Why do people struggle with hearing analogies?
Why do people keep saying it is a joke when Joe himself says he is not kidding?
And yes, I have no problem with the analogy at all, he was basically saying after a big
disaster, things often change after that. He was not saying a football loss and 9/11 are equal.
It is Scarborough's comments that are repulsive here not Saban's.
I'm wondering what the joke is being missed. Saban's analogy may make sense to Alabama football fans. Apparently a number of sports writers in other states mocked it as being over the top for something that is just a game. But Scarborough sits there giggling like an idiot as his response that liberals don't see 9/11 as a catastrophe.
Now if he responded that the "sports writers" don't get it then it could have been a joke at their over-reaction. But Joe blew it by trying to make it a "stupid liberals" type comment.
No I don't see any joke. Or were all the sports writers taking Saban to task liberals?
Well duh, dude!
Alabama suffered a (ahem) liberal dose of whup-@ss! So of course it's the Liberal's fault. Probably Edwards, Kerry, Clinton, and Kennedy in particular.
And lay off Joe, OK? He's still figuring out that 'good ol boy' and 'smart' aren't necessarily exclusive.
Nick Saban's comments do suggest a way that Alabama could win a lot more football games: Bomb the shit out of the opposing team's home towns, post snipers in the nose-bleed seats to blow away the opposing team's quarterback, etc. Why do these things? Because we love democracy and good football. Why mess with analogies when you can just start the killin'?
What does he mean "liberals don't consider 9/11 and Pearl Harbor catostrophic events? The hell I don't! Just because I don't think 9/11 and Iraq were connected doesn't mean I don't support a war on REAL terrorism JOE!!!
Football is bullshit. That being said, I think he's trying his hand at Colbert Hyperbole.
I'll give Joe Scarborough the benefit of the doubt and assume it was tongue in cheek. However, this little clip is a superb example of a technique that the Republicans have been successful with time and time again - the technique of re-framing the issue. The real issue - the trivialization of Pearl Harbor and 911 by equating those disasters with a loss in a football game. Joe's re-framing, the "liberals" opposing a man for loving America and "liberals" viewing 911 and Pearl Harbor as not catastrophic. Now, it's an issue of patriotism, not trivialization.
We need to start doing a lot more of framing the issue. Maybe do some push-polling ourselves. Like
1.) Do you favor single-payer national health insurance, or do you support the corporate welfare version?
2.) Do you favor Social Security "reduction" (they call it reform).
3.) Do you favor amnesty for people who unlawfully wiretap? (It's amnesty for immigrants, and immunity for telecoms.)
And so forth. George Lakoff has put out a DVD on how the Republicans have been winning with this framing concept. They don't have the best answers, and they know it, so they have to re-frame the question, which the Democrats have been allowing.
Of course, as reported by Democracynow, the corporate media have been trying to kill issues all together. Candidates are not being asked their position on habeas corpus, wiretapping, immunity for telecoms, torture and so forth. In the alternative, Hillary was asked whether she prefers diamonds or pearls in the last CNN debate, apparently a CNN mandated question.
We have got to start out-framing the Republicans. We have the better answers, now we need to have the better questions. By doing this improved framing, we're supporting the children, because we're helping to build a better America. By failing to do so, the terrorists win, because they would never want a better America. ;-)
Here's what I wrote to him:
"Joe, as a standard-bearer for jackass Republicans, it came as no surprise that you would defend a pathetic loser who invoked 9/11 in a college football 'tragedy'.
After all, invoking 9/11 to cover your own asses is what you guys do best as a party, right?
What *would* be refreshing is taking a modicum of personal responsibility, and apologizing to the families of people who actually died that day, and to the rest of us that had to smell them burning."
Who EVER said that Joe was trying to take a "middle path" in his partisan talk. He's a TOTAL "right-winger-zinger" EVERY DAY. Listen to him for five minutes, and you will begin to figure out exactly why the Republican Party is in so much trouble for this election cycle.
NO SHIT!
Joe Scarborough is gonna have to bang the 'Democrats hate America' Drum as hard as he friggin can because come election day 2008, his republican party is gonna lose in a landslide!
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Liberals don't see 911 and Pearl Harbor as catastrophic events? Well, that's a new low.
QuakerDave @ 17:
Believe that's called f---k up and move up.
I agree that this was in somewhat poor taste, but how is it partisan?
Joe...Joe...why did you kill me?
I can't get mad at Joe. I've seen him blast Republican's and this administration more than any conservative pundit/host. When talking about the Plame/CIA leak, he said, "If this were Carville and Al Gore [instead of Rove/Cheney] leaking the name of a covert spy in a time of war they would have been lynched by the Republicans" - On Real Time w/ Bill Maher
I don't agree with him all the time, and he is going to say boneheaded things from time to time, but he's one of the fairest conservatives out there. Hey, nobody's perfect.
At least he's on MSNBC and not FOX Noise.
Scarborough's a bit slow, he just found out there's gonna be an election in '08, and this is his way of throwing his hat in the ring as a republican presidential contender.
Joe never said he is a middle of the road guy. He clearly states that his position is of a conservative Republican. And when people listen to him, they all know where he's views come from.
Pendejo Estupido (and his orchestra!)
phil @ 101:
Wrong. In his promos on MSNBC he says he's not owned by the left or the right, he's his own man.
Joe is a dick, and what ever he says, 90% of the people who watch his lame show cant stand the moron anyway. We want to hear what Meka and Willy have to say, NOT Joe Blow! Why in the hell he does not just go work for FOX Noise is beyond me. MSNBC should bring back Imus, at least Imus has some balls.LOL
Lori Klausutis @ 98:
I guess his sense of humor really kills.
Wasn't this the same Scarborough who had one of his interns/aids die in his office under "mysterious" circumstances?
Disappointing, as Joe is one of the only conservative voices I can appreciate, even though I usually disagree with him.
Right-wingers love to demonstrate the near extinction of rational thought, mainly through irrational moral equivalence. Go figure ...
ATTENTION NEOCONS: STUBBING YOUR TOE IS IN NO WAY COMPARABLE TO 9/11!!!
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Join the Rational Revolution!
YBNurmal @ 9:
You are looking at him on TV
wagonjak @ 34:
Me too. I quit watching. There has to be a better host than Joey
Skipping past all the comments, I cannot believe that Joe was serious. He must have been kidding?
You should have heard the commentary by Wilbon and Kornheiser on the idiotic comments by Saban, WOW!
It was awesome, talk about ripping someone a new asshole!
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So according to Joe, if Alabama looses, we should all care because our livelihood is affected how...?
Incredibly shameful that anyone invoke 9/11 or Pearl Harbor to be like winning or loosing a damn collage football game.
Not only is this highly disrespectful to those affected by the events of 9/11 and Pearl Harbor, but smacks of a disingenuous attempt to coerce our emotional ties to collage football and tragic American events as somehow equal.
IT IS NOT!
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just a simple fyi. they dangled the bait, and you ate it. Morning Joe ratings will go up for a short while now.
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He defends Limbaugh and blames Democrats for not figuring out how to get things done (10/3/07). He defends Blackwater (10/8/07), one day he is a republican, the next day he is not, but a conservative, the day after he is a republican again (10/7/07), he idolizes McCain as the only candidate who understands the cost of war.He caters to Limbaugh and supports his ranting while both love Giuliani (on for 13:20 on 10/23/07). He claims to be anti-war, but he will defend Bush whenever a Democrat says anything anti-war/anti-bush. Joe Wilson is a liar and a scumbag. Fear mongering, "the clock is ticking".
The guy is just a complete moron
Logan Murphy @ 103:
And faux claims to be "fair and balanced".
alien @ 2:
Amen to that!
That bit doesn't sound out of character for someone like Hannity or O'Rielly, but it's not something Joe would say seriously.
alien @ 2:
Amen! Of course Joe is a Republican and a conservative, but anyone who doesn't think he was being funny doesn't have a sense of humor.
#59-More proof that NBC and MSNBC are completely librul outlets
You want reichwingnut bs...you have FAUXNOIZ...go get it numbnuts.
F MSNBC for "proving they're not liberal" by giving Joe the most airtime on the network. The Young Turks should have been given the morning slot
The most airtime goes to Pat Buchanan.............
That guy is on Morning Joe, MSNBC Live, Hardball, Tucker, Russert, not to mention other channels. He's another one of those Bush apologists, defending him no matter what, screaming, screeching and chopping liver (or whatever is in front of him) with both hands.
Logan Murphy @ 103:
yeah, he's his own man as a conservative Republican.
Bryan @ 116:
Oh gee, I forgot. We DO live in a cartoon, a comic strip if you will, in which all republicans are EVIL, regularly dining on the remains of puppies whilst all democrats are GOOD. Geezus. Man, you got to grow up.
azprogress@27 said it all - lighten up people. Choose your battles.
Cheney @ 3:
A very nice perspective that deserves repeating.
Joseph
I couldn't agree with this more. You guys should use your energy on the (overly abundant) important stuff. If this is worth discussing, then you really need to get a life!
When are you folks going to realize that NONE of these freaks spread all over our networks are working on behalf of America, except Keith Oberman.
Every time they say a few words to make you think they are coming to some semblance of common sense, they turn around and let you know they are still the ass holes they always were.
All of these bastards need to be removed from national media and replaced with some common sense voices
Just tune in to Keith Olbermann if you want untainted, die hard liberal paranoia. Scarborough may actually venture off the plantation occaisionally, bless his heart.
Someone should knock that rug off his head.
I just wish that some one would ask JOE about why he left OFFICE and LORI KLAUSUTIS. NO guts right.
I like your show so far mainly because of the other two there with you , but if this partsian crap keeps up will have to put you in category with Chris, and Tim and go back to CNN. Do you have to let your partisan color show so loudly, and be so shrill.
I hope I am not in a minority, but I just like an open discussion without all the ugly character assassinations and such. I think the word is, CIVILITY. Just in case you are not aware.
Scarborough's “middle man” act occurs more frequently than you realize. I'd say, it occurs daily in some fashion. Why MSNBC chose to promote a clear republican on a daily level is beyond me. He's your morning cup of republican bile.
As if anyone really cares what this idiot says or thinks---BRING BACK DON IMJS NOW!!!!!!
Cheney @ 3:
AMEN!! When did we become such a nation of crybabies?? Do any of those whining crybabies know the meaning of JUST SUCK IT UP AND DEAL WITH IT??!!!
We (collectively) need to grow a spine and impeach the worst administration in the history of the united states. WAKE UP, PELOSI AND REID AND DO THE JOB WE ELECTED YOU FOR!!
Who the Hell would watch this Idiot?
Liberals don't see 9/11 and Pearl Harbor as catastrophies? My respect for this man just disappeared. I'm sick of neocons who build up straw men to paint liberals as anti-american and weak like this, and it looks like Scarborough finally drank the kool aid. As the author of this post mentioned, it is silly to compare a football game to a national tragedy, it has nothing to do with conservative vs. liberal.
Nothing a good round of waterboarding wouldn't fix. Hey Joe, how about some electrodes to the genitalia so you can get a taste of the grief the families felt in those real tragedies?
hueylong @ 26:
seconded. choose your battles people. don't give the other side an excuse to have people roll their eyes at you.
the man is clearly joking.
smokey joe was joking. it was tongue in cheek
Bandini @ 137:
Upper or lower?
I figured intern-killer would show his true colors eventually. He just needed a little boost in the ratings by pretending to be "critical" of bush.
Good move on MSNBC shift JOe to mornings....
NOW BRING BACK IMAS
and get rid of repuke joe
When's the last time anybody has ever seen a tiger change its stripes? Scarborough reformed? Not going to happen. At this point, the GOP (together with the corporatist neolib/neocon wing of the Democratic party) is the party of sociopathy. If one has not grown out of the inherent sociopathy of toddlerhood by the time they are 17-20, it will never happen. The only thing they learn thereafter is how to make affectations of social trustworthiness. But, that is only a tool of predation, which they use and rely upon to lure in the unsuspecting who then become victims of manipulation and mere objects to be used and later discarded. The only difference between them is found in the degree of polish that they apply to their pretenses of healthy socialization.
A reliable source of truth or honest journalism is not to be found from Joe Scarborough or people like him. All trusts placed in he and his will, sooner or later, be betrayed. By definition.
Let us not miss the point. 911 changed America. While that is true, how is changed America is what is important. Republicans seem to indicate it unalterably bruised our soul and changed us all in the same way, I disagree. It did not unalterably bruise my soul, but it made it stronger. And it did not change me in the way Republicans seem to indicate - I do not want us to be more hateful or violent, I do not want us to be more corrupt and fatalist and I do not want us to give up our values to paranoia or fear mongering.
I believe America is our world's best hope for peace and freedom. I believe America can and must return to the open society it was before being gripped by hateful vengeance, corrupt fatalism and paranoid fear. America's soul is at stake and the Republicans are fighting tooth and nail to define that bruised soul.
I am Christian, Catholic in fact. While republicans will like very few of my religious views, I refuse to let them define me as someone I am not. I am not gripped by hateful vengeance. I am not a corrupt fatalist. I am not a fearful paranoid. I am an American citizen, strong, proud and fighting for what's correct, not what's right.
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