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This is Bob Morris from the eco-Leftie Politics in the Zeros - it ranges from antiwar to global warming - guest-blogging today.

Deer Hunting With Jesus is subtitled "Dispatches from America's Class War." The author, who grew up redneck and became a "godless commie", wonders how the Right got the votes of poor whites. Maybe because the Left was asleep? His #1 advice - stop preaching about guns.

Breakthrough favors government spending of $50 billion a year for 10 years developing better, cleaner sources of energy and transportation because private enterprise and reducing energy use can't do it all.

Greviously injured in WWII, his life was saved by a doctor who survived the Armenian genocide. He was the first senator to bring forth a resolution to recognize the genocide. His name may surprise you.

The subslime mortgage debacle is metastasizing into a worldwide credit crisis that some say could trigger a systemic financial meltdown, no joke.

Former House member Cynthia McKinney wants the Green Party 2008 presidential nomination.

Send those tips to bob (at) polizeros (dot) com.

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Weaseldog's picture

We can avoid that recession with runaway inflation. We do have a choice, and I'm sure we'll have the wisdom to pick the one that causes the most damage.

Weaseldog's picture

To continue yesterday's Matt Simmons thread and tie it into today's news...

Energy / Oil powers industry.

A decline in worldwide oil production will cause industry to decline, just as letting your foot off the gas will cause the engine to slow.

As we increase the money supply to stimulate the economy, we continue to have an increasing quantity of dollars chasing a declining quantity of goods and services.

Because real world production is in decline, it is a poor investment as compared to finance, which is force fed an ever increasing quantity of money to keep it growing. This guarantees that our infrastructure will not be maintained. It just doesn't provide the returns that multiply leverage investment vehicles can provide in commission sales...

hadenuf's picture

Even my ever-optimistic free market republican son [who reads the Economist] believes we're headed for that recession.

hadenuf's picture

Is this recession a Plan? Demand destruction, more profits [particularly for oil companies] etc.?

pissed off patricia's picture

I think we are in a recession but no one wants to admit it. No one wants to say there is a dootie in the punch bowl even though everyone smells it.

Weaseldog's picture

pissed off patricia @ 5:

I think we are in a recession but no one wants to admit it. No one wants to say there is a dootie in the punch bowl even though everyone smells it.

I agree, we've been in one for years, it was simply masked by the intentionally engineered housing bubble.

hadenuf's picture

I know of at least 3 families, who were previously more comfortably middle class than I ever was, who have experienced severe declines in income [2 due to health problems, but 1 who lost his job & now has to work at Home Depot].
Good job, republicans.

shaker O Salt's picture

Bob Dole's name couldn't possible surprise you if you had been paying attention all these years. It's like playing jeopardy, you know?

ysaddaden's picture

Y'all remember in the olden days that whenever we spoke of the big O it was about orgasms?

Now it's the title of a certain monthly vanity project for a narcissistic "celebrity."

Get your cardboard refridgerator boxes now before the rush!

joze46's picture

What is wrong with todays Media

Glaring Media manipulation shows that those paid political IMUS types show the incredible hypocrisy, context confusion, bias, and media have merged to this point in modern time and actually use the technology in manipulated persuasion by rich powerful, domestic and foreign influence that didn’t invent it. Pay-rolling Journalist to change or manipulate the mind of the viewer, reader. Were authors, writers direct to compose written and spoken divisiveness for a price, seeming doing a job while destroying the country. One reason I support the Writers strike to hopefully bring this hard link out into the open and show Americans the duress they are under and make these giants pay for their greed. Arab extremist are core of this cultural manipulation in media and the theater moving persuasion and believes with the huge sums of they have.

The tragedy for these past decades is the continued suppression and oppression of the Bush family and it close business family friendship with the rich Arab ruling Bin Laden family. Its obvious Arab Petro-dollars are central core and our “Decider” is very well moving family fortunes rather than serving America interest and defending the Constitution. Worse, taking military counsel with the very family who are the enemy. The Arab Bin Laden family is Al Qaeda, The Bin Laden family are primer financers to Islamic extremist groups here in America for decades and around the world. Yet, the Bush family believe its honorable and practical to share business partnerships with the very enemy we are fighting. Moreover, the Mainstream Media refuses to tell America the truth about this horrible conflict of interest that breaches to and meets the highest violations to the Constitution for high crimes and treason.

Fox News, Hannity, and Mark Levin, on cable television, and radio talk shows rant, pound, ridicule, smear, claim flip flopping, divisiveness, evil, unelectable is what Hillary Clinton is. And some here call her a Bitch. In either case, Hillary Clinton, if anything that is true, obvious, and hard to debate is change of historical proportion as a woman to be elected to the highest office anytime in recorded history. Yikes, American its obvious anyone who finds themselves lagging in the poles need to start hard measures to prevent this course in history to take place. Those in the know see proud stature this election can bring for the Democrats with that win. The Neo-Con right are going wacky even into self destruction throwing out anyone who will not stay the course even though America smashed into the ice burg of Iraq. No matter how the war appears to shift, likely being ok, after a trillion dollars wasted, and unaccounted for, were in the final days of the elections its so obvious the whole Iraqi war was fabricated to dissolve to support Republican virtues, and becomes peaceful before Election Day is typical Republican. All, supported by the “fix” in mainstream media to fraud American out of trillions in tax dollars. That is something to avoid being caught at, to be sure there could be years if not decades of over sight by the Democrats to weave though a tangle mess that America is in. A lot of good old boys are leaving the election circuit running for cover and distance. Maybe its what they say behind closed doors. That they are sorry for and will not do it again, only to find out that behind closed doors is not good enough anymore.

Hillary Clinton is not electable. Is not true. Hillary Clinton went against huge odds in the New York to run for the Senate. It is totally true and obvious that Hillary Clinton has what it takes in personal character, charisma, intelligence, vision and what ever else that is good. For me, I have always had a respect for New York State and New York people even though I am born and raised in the Midwest. When politicians change their point of views momentarily or over the years, they're often thought of as "wafflers." To me, And many in America think changing your mind after gathering data, studying a situation and realizing your first perceptions were erroneous -- at least in part -- is admirable. More, staying the course, can be absolutely stubborn and without flexibility fuel a bad decision to a devastating decision as we are finding out in Iraq. By our “Decider” War or peace in Iraq America now has an extended responsibility of unknown proportions, rehabilitation, a reconstruction, and most of all a real solution is world wide atonement , but all that can not happen while the Bush and the Neo-Cons keep everything classified to prevent massive fraud and crimes against the Constitution, all Americans, and the world with out public over sight. What’s worse, with corrupt in election machines this election must be overwhelming for either side and impossible to defraud by a few votes and any Supreme Court rulings.

Either America goes completely into fraud confusion, chaos, lies, deception, classified secrets buried military corruption political crimes, or vote Democratic and relieve America of this on going misery.

hadenuf's picture

A recession will bring families together again. Back to the 3-4 generations in one household, like my immigrant grandparents.

Interestingly, illegal immigrants will be better off than spoiled Americans, and they can always go back home if it gets too tough.

pissed off patricia's picture

When the housing bubble was going on, just about anyone could predict what the outcome would be. Lots of people owning homes they couldn't really afford but they jumped in because the rates were low and all sorts of fairy tale loans were being offered. There had to come a time to pay the piper sooner or later. Sure enough, the piper is now asking to be paid and people are in a heap of trouble.

We went for a walk around our neighborhood yesterday and it's sad to see how many almost new homes are now sitting empty. Where are the people who once lived there? Some of the homes have a "for sale" sign and others are just empty and being neglected. Yards are growing up, trash is being tossed into the yards, and there seems to be no one who cares.

Thank goodness we paid our home off this year. If we had to sell it, even at the deflated prices now, we would still come out fine. What we paid for our house ten years ago is still much much less than it's value even today.

Kathleen's picture

One would think the so called "progressive" blogosphere would be filled with articles about the upcoming middle east conference. Really surprised nothing on the Diane Rehm show. I depended on Diane before the invasion she had guest after guest on questioning the validity of the intelligence and the wisdom of such a pre-emptive invasion.

Today she is discussing oil...but no middle east conference line up discussion. Odd

http://wamu.org/programs/dr/

Kathleen @ 14:

One would think the so called "progressive" blogosphere would be filled with articles about the upcoming middle east conference. Really surprised nothing on the Diane Rehm show. I depended on Diane before the invasion she had guest after guest on questioning the validity of the intelligence and the wisdom of such a pre-emptive invasion.

Today she is discussing oil...but no middle east conference line up discussion. Odd

http://wamu.org/programs/dr/

Diane Rehm?

While i admit she has interesting guests you will find that she steers the conversation away from controversial issues. I have found myself screeming at the radio more than once when she cuts people off or changes the subject just as the conversation starts getting interesting.

I love her show when she is on vacation.

Weaseldog's picture

Kathleen @ 14:

One would think the so called "progressive" blogosphere would be filled with articles about the upcoming middle east conference. Really surprised nothing on the Diane Rehm show. I depended on Diane before the invasion she had guest after guest on questioning the validity of the intelligence and the wisdom of such a pre-emptive invasion.

Today she is discussing oil...but no middle east conference line up discussion. Odd

http://wamu.org/programs/dr/

Well, oil is driving events in the ME.

How much time do you think Bush's attempt at relevance in a pretend peace conference is worth?

Weaseldog's picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 15:

Kathleen @ 14:

One would think the so called "progressive" blogosphere would be filled with articles about the upcoming middle east conference. Really surprised nothing on the Diane Rehm show. I depended on Diane before the invasion she had guest after guest on questioning the validity of the intelligence and the wisdom of such a pre-emptive invasion.

Today she is discussing oil...but no middle east conference line up discussion. Odd

http://wamu.org/programs/dr/

Diane Rehm?

While i admit she has interesting guests you will find that she steers the conversation away from controversial issues. I have found myself screeming at the radio more than once when she cuts people off or changes the subject just as the conversation starts getting interesting.

I love her show when she is on vacation.

First I've heard of her...

As far as the "Peace Conference" is concerned i can't imagine anything coming out of it. It is seven years too late for this Administration. Besides the fact they have no interest in peace the only reason i can think of for this event is to prop up Bush's flatlined legacy.

Weaseldog's picture

I hope Bush isn't expecting to suck on a roast pig during the conference.

No one is going to allow him to speak are they?

Weaseldog @ 17:

xoites defends Constitution @ 15:

Kathleen @ 14:

One would think the so called "progressive" blogosphere would be filled with articles about the upcoming middle east conference. Really surprised nothing on the Diane Rehm show. I depended on Diane before the invasion she had guest after guest on questioning the validity of the intelligence and the wisdom of such a pre-emptive invasion.

Today she is discussing oil...but no middle east conference line up discussion. Odd

http://wamu.org/programs/dr/

Diane Rehm?

While i admit she has interesting guests you will find that she steers the conversation away from controversial issues. I have found myself screeming at the radio more than once when she cuts people off or changes the subject just as the conversation starts getting interesting.

I love her show when she is on vacation.

First I've heard of her...

She is on NPR out of Washington from 10AM to Noon Monday through Friday. She is broadcast on American University Radio (WAMU) and is picked up on a lot of othe NPR stations across the country, but to their credit, not all.

billy bob's picture

Keep pushing gun control, and you will never get the redneck vote...thats a fact...just a few redneck votes in 2000 and 2006 and we would be in a whole different place now...

stevie's picture

Good book: "Deer Hunting with Jesus"...how the Right got the votes of poor whites? The Left was asleep and stop preaching about guns.
Exactly. Just like the Left will go back to sleep when Bush leaves office, or a Dem is elected to the White House or we're out of Iraq. We watched it happen when the Vietnam war ended and it gave the Right plenty of time to create a rightwing noise/propaganda machine. The emphasis shouldn't just be on Bush/Cheney/Iraq but on rightwing ideology and conservatism as a mental illness.

Right-Wing politicians prefer unarmed peasants.
Stop preaching about guns; it's not about 'gun control' it's about 'crime control'.
In Ohio, half the people vote Repug precisely because of the gun issue. There's already enough gun laws on the books--Drop the gun issue and within two years the Repugs would pick it up as their own. Watch and see.

billy bob @ 21:

Keep pushing gun control, and you will never get the redneck vote...thats a fact...just a few redneck votes in 2000 and 2006 and we would be in a whole different place now...

Are you addressing this site? Because over the last two years i can't recall the subject coming up.

ysaddaden's picture

An evolutionary biologist looking for a cintelligent designm to explain their "theory" to him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnTOzItCszY

liberalNmoderation's picture

billy bob @ 21:

Keep pushing gun control, and you will never get the redneck vote...thats a fact...just a few redneck votes in 2000 and 2006 and we would be in a whole different place now...

As fucked up as that sounds, it's true...in 2000, when I was in NC, I was (still am) very anti-bush, and alot of the good ol' boys I worked with, voted for him (bushy mcjunior) simply because they are deathly afraid that all Dems, and or liberals want to take away their guns.

Terrible's picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 23:

billy bob @ 21:

Keep pushing gun control, and you will never get the redneck vote...thats a fact...just a few redneck votes in 2000 and 2006 and we would be in a whole different place now...

Are you addressing this site? Because over the last two years i can't recall the subject coming up.

ummmmm xoites, maybe in this post? And Joe Bageant and billy bob @ 21 are correct.

StirFry's picture

Fux News is headlining this story from the Washington times:
U.S. intel center wary of terrorist attack .

Of course, it fizzles down to the sub-source "for this information is of unknown reliability." My rightwing officemate also told me about it and is fantasizing about 10 mile mind fields of death around the border and bombing Mexico.

He's living medical evidence that there is something wrong with rightwinger's medulla oblongata.

jr's picture

the subprime meltdown makes Hoover look good by comparison

Bob Morris's picture

billy bob @ 21:

Keep pushing gun control, and you will never get the redneck vote...thats a fact...just a few redneck votes in 2000 and 2006 and we would be in a whole different place now...

Yes, that's precisely what the author of Deer Hunting With Jesus says!

Guns are a bedrock part of rural culture, especially in the south and west, and have been for generations. Attempts at gun control are a deal killer for any politician wanting their votes.

In Utah, for example, you can walk down the street with a loaded 45 on your hip and have an AK-47 at home, and it's quite legal. Is Utah more violent because of this? No.

ysaddaden's picture

Are Mormons more or less likely to commit crimes?

And "rural culture" (an oxymoron if there ever was one) implies that people are fewer and further apart. Couldn't that have something to do with less violence, the lack of opportunity to use or even need weapons?

ysaddaden's picture

Bambi wears a flak-jacket?

Tom's picture
Preacher Boob's picture

'How the right got the votes of 'Poor Whites'?'

The same way they got everything else, they bought 'em with their tax savings.

Preacher Boob's picture

This financial crisis, together with the global warming crisis, is looking serious.

But, as is de rigeur in the US, money comes first.

The best personal financial advice I've heard lately, is that everyone should rush out and buy an eighteen-wheeler for their own personal transportation.

That's the only way they'll have enough room in their 'car' to carry the money they'll need to pay for gas.

d k's picture

No, his #1 advice is 'get out of your yup fishbowl and have some understanding/pity on the working man' -- that liberals have forgotten their populist roots. (You should do your homework better -- lotsa fine essays online if ya don't wanna spring for the book..)

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