...It’s almost as if they assume that the female and minority votes are locked up by other candidates.

Not to mention the votes of minority females...

the days of the whiteboys running this country are coming to an end and it's about time.
all these corporate whores need to go. if you campaign on giving the people first, then you can not turn around and just legislate advantages for the corporations.

And then you have something like this that I found over at Kos. This is Mitt Romney speaking.
". . . based on the numbers of American Muslims [as a percentage] in our population, I cannot see that a cabinet position would be justified. But of course, I would imagine that Muslims could serve at lower levels of my administration."

How does that strike ya? So even the best person for a high cabinet position would be ignored if he or she were a Muslim. Nice going, Mitt. You asshole!

Write Huffington Post off. It is a tabloid - political and social. And it is a 'censured for profit' site.

Taylor Marsh finds male bias? Boy (yuk) that's a surprise, too.

CD @ 1:

Paul Krugman=Jewish.

I'm pretty sure they're still a minority.

mike-2 @ 11:

Matthew Yglesias is also Jewish.

woah woah woah people. if one of them was Irish would that make them a minority?

Who in their right mind is asking Joe Klein anything these days anyway?

I agree with your point, and the one that really, really gets me is the CEO of the DLC (!) making pronouncements on populism.

I had dinner with a friend and his wife not too long ago and we brought up the democratic race. I asked him what he thought of the candidates and he said he was backing Hillary. So I asked him why and he responded:

"Its time for America to have a woman president."

To which I responded:

"Is the election about gender or is it about where the candidates stand on the issues?"

His response was a look of shock. How dare I ask that question!

Krugman's assessment is about as close to truth as any of the respondents in that Huffington article and yes Nicole... it would have been good to include some female pundits too, but gender is not the issue... the issues are the issue and Edwards has led the pack and determined the issues that are being debated in this campaign.

As Krugman noted:

PAUL KRUGMAN, NEW YORK TIMES:

I think it's not a fair test because voters -- even primary voters -- are NOT getting a clear picture of the candidates' positions. You'll have to dig it up, but I'm sure I saw a poll in which Democratic voters believed that Hillary was the leftmost candidate and Edwards the rightmost. [See here.]

The candidates are all much more progressive/populist than anyone would have imagined a couple of years ago. Edwards tends to come up with the policy proposal first, but he's eventually emulated by the others -- and you have to be a serious political groupie to be in the business of inferring positions not from the policies, but by which month they're announced in. Basically, nobody is running on the pro-business, anti-class-warfare platform. We're all populists now.

Where I strongly disagree with most of those pundits is how can you be in opposition to the big corporations and their lobbyist... when you are funded by them?

Hillary has taken more money from lobbyist and PACs than all of the other candidates combined in either party.

As one Doc wrote at D-Kos:

I support John Edwards. For many reasons.

Universal healthcare is a big one for me-- the sick and injured must be cared for with decency and respect.

ALL of them.

And not just when they're on death's door in the Emergency Department where care is federally mandated. Cost effectiveness, in addition to human decency, requires primary preventative care as well.

In my opinion, nobody but John Edwards stands a chance of achieving Universal Health Care, because nobody but John Edwards is willing to fight the HMOs and risk losing their continued financial support.

Do you know which two United States senators took in the most money from HMOs this current cycle?

#1. Hillary Clinton
#2. Barack Obama

First and second place-- out of all 100 senators, Republican and Democrat.

Health Services/HMOs:
Money to Congress

Election cycle: 2008

List: Summary Top 20 Members

Candidate
Amount

Clinton, Hillary (D)
$246,480

Obama, Barack (D)
$175,093

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary.asp?Ind=H03&recipdetail=M&...

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/26/15814/964

mike-2 @ 11:

Pretty sure Ruy Teixeira is Hispanic. Matthew Yglesias is also Jewish.

I think Big Media Matt is also part Portugese. At least I thought that is what he said at the new gig he shares with Sully and McMegan.

Of course! its about diversity, maybe they did not find anyone of certain political skill level that was a women or minority? Stop playing to race/gender/whining card.

Richard Kyanka @ 21:

I think it's shameful that you're only zeroing in on their race/gender. At the risk of sounding like Colbert, when I look or think about people the first thing that comes to mind isn't categorizing them into 'black, white, asian, or hispanic' or 'male or female'. But then again, noticing things like this is usually a sign of the latent racism in the speaker.

Maybe you should look inside yourself before criticizing others?

Ouch.

4 dadams Says: the days of the whiteboys running this country are coming to an end and it’s about time.
all these corporate whores need to go.
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I agree, hillary needs to go. Even though that might upset taylor marsh.

Scarlet P 3 Any chance I could talk you into posting Pelosi's number on those signs? (1-202-225-0100) I'm going for 6 million calls and YOU are right there in the MARKET PLACE and I sure could use the help.

One name folks: FDR !!

Edwards will be another FDR !! Yes, a rich white guy named Franklin Delano Roosevelt was the best friend ordinary americans ever had. Not only the the most progressive, but also the greatest liberal president EVER and ranked next to Lincoln by MOST historians.

Don't believe me ? Ask this black journalist who honors this "rich white guy populist"

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/18/opinion/18herbert.html?ex=1271476800&e...

April 18, 2005
OP-ED COLUMNIST

A Radical in the White House
By BOB HERBERT

Or ask thses blacks who lived through the REPUBLICAN Great Depression and honor FDR and his wife Eleanor for their POPULISM despite their wealth.

Roosevelt's Blues:African American Blues and Gospel Songs on FDR

I say I say... I think hateMoron be a weeeee bit confused!

YAHTZEE !!!

Bwwaaahahahaaa....heehehe hehee.....

Book:
Roosevelt's Blues: African American Blues and Gospel Songs on FDR (American Made Music Series)

Prior to the long presidency of Franklin Roosevelt, black Americans largely voted Republican. Guido Van Rijn's analyzes blues and gospel lyrics that contained social and political comments to shed light on the question of why Roosevelt became so popular among blacks. Roosevelt's Blues is a uniquely fascinating blend of blues lyrics and political history that will appeal to a wide range of readers.

The chapters need not be read in sequence; the reader can skip to topics of special interest, like Got a Job on the WPA, or The Scottsboro Boys, or Uncle Sam is Calling. The blues lyrics are entertaining in themselves, but more importantly they provide a deeper, more personal insight into the Great Depression that is often missing from standard accounts.

The chapters address key events from 1929-1945 including the hard times of the Hoover days (1929-31), the first relief efforts through the Red Cross stores (1933), the CWA (1934), the bonus payment and the PWA (1936), the WPA projects (1937), the draft (1940), the approach of war (1941), Pearl Harbor (1942), wartime rationing (1943), and FDR's death (1945). The last chapter summarizes the conclusions of Van Rijn's analysis.

Van Rijn enhanced his text with numerous lyrics, record labels, and historical photographs. An appendix includes extensive notes, a bibliography, a song index, and a discography.

A suggestion to history teachers: To many students the 1920s and 1930s are only vaguely known as those decades bounded by two world wars. The chapters on the Depression years in most standard high school and first year college textbooks are perhaps notable for being somewhat uninteresting. Van Rijn's Roosevelt's Blues could enliven classroom discussions, as well as serve as a good example of political and social research. Roosevelt's Blues also demonstrates that reading history can prove fascinating and enjoyable.

Edwards is the real deal !!

Richard Kyanka @ 21:

I think it's shameful that you're only zeroing in on their race/gender. At the risk of sounding like Colbert, when I look or think about people the first thing that comes to mind isn't categorizing them into 'black, white, asian, or hispanic' or 'male or female'. But then again, noticing things like this is usually a sign of the latent racism in the speaker.

Maybe you should look inside yourself before criticizing others?

Actually, it's a populist's job to recognize demographics. Would you also call Nicole a racist if she mentioned that black people are disproportionately affected by poverty? Race plays a role. There is nothing wrong with pointing that out. White males are not the majority. Hence, noticing that all the sources are white males is fairly relevant to the story.

Rula Lenska @ 17:

I'm comfortable seeing Joe Klein in that group. He can give good poop on whether Dewey will beat Truman.

Good old Rula! I've been wondering for years what happened to you. Are you doing the hairspray for Edwards?

Well, they've certainly got their finger on the pulse of the middle aged Jewish man's opinion, at least.

Tony @ 35:

It's the good ole boys club, and the rest of us aint invited.

Typical ivory tower liberal/conservative demagoguery.

Horse shit.

Hillary may or may not be winning but she's doing a damn good job in the polls and so is Obama.

Manila Ryce @ 39:

CD @ 38:

Tony @ 35:

It's the good ole boys club, and the rest of us aint invited.

Typical ivory tower liberal/conservative demagoguery.

Horse shit.

Hillary may or may not be winning but she's doing a damn good job in the polls and so is Obama.

And that's good or bad for minorities and women?

Their doing so well in the polls proves that race and gender no longer mean a person can or can't be President.

Fanon @ 31:

Chris @ 22:

Of course! its about diversity, maybe they did not find anyone of certain political skill level that was a women or minority? Stop playing to race/gender/whining card.

That's right, I'm sure there aren't any bright, intelligent or "clean" women or minorities to interview. Spoken like a true white male. Usually people who resort to the 'stop playing the race/gender' card are in the majority.

And Edwards as a 'populist'? Give me a break. A rich, white lawyer. Not that this negates his effect to speak for the people, per se, but he sure as hell isn't one of us. The days of the log cabin, studying by candlelight, up hill both ways to school in the snow candidates are over. We have our choice between rich, more rich, and even richer.

It's not ok that they couldn't come up with anyone of a minority race or gender card to interview and I don't care if you think that's whining.

T

How is John Edwards not one of us? Simply because he busted his butt and worked hard to achieve success? He came from nothing and made something of himself and now you want to hold that against him? I don't hold success against someone. If you look at where each candidate stands on the issues, John Edwards stands with the people. He is always the first candidate to come out with policy proposals- Healthcare, fighting poverty, combating global warming etc.- and then Hillary and Barrack copy him and the media gives them all the credit. He is the only candidate out there that I trust to stand up to the Corporations and fight for every American.

they do get points for at least getting some bloggers involved...granted, white, male bloggers. but still, it's a step in the right direction.

CD @ 40:

Manila Ryce @ 39:

CD @ 38:

Tony @ 35:

Horse shit.

Hillary may or may not be winning but she's doing a damn good job in the polls and so is Obama.

And that's good or bad for minorities and women?

Their doing so well in the polls proves that race and gender no longer mean a person can or can't be President.

That's not the point I was making. The point is that both are corporate candidates. Nothing will be gained for women or minorities simply by having Hillary or Obama in the White House.

Manila Ryce @ 46:

CD @ 40:

Manila Ryce @ 39:

CD @ 38:

And that's good or bad for minorities and women?

Their doing so well in the polls proves that race and gender no longer mean a person can or can't be President.

That's not the point I was making. The point is that both are corporate candidates. Nothing will be gained for women or minorities simply by having Hillary or Obama in the White House.

Even if they are "corporate candidates" it means that the corporation(s) are now including people of both genders and every race.

I'm with all those above.

If we just get rid of all the white people, and all the males, ALL of our problems will be solved! Brilliant solution! (EVERYONE knows that minorities and women are never selfish nor criminals). I wonder why using race to invalidate a person's point of view hasn't been done before, it seems to make SO much sense!

:rollseyes:

Far worse than HuffPo editors -- owned and run by a female immigrant BTW -- not making a very good effort to seek out a more diverse panel, is the IMMEDIATE leap to racism that always happens and is generally condoned here. I find that disturbing from supposedly 'enlightened' individuals fighting against Crooks and Liars.

Not being inclusive in soliciting comments is a bad move. But taking every issue to the extreme of a race war is just stupid. Poor leaders come in all shapes, sizes, colors, and genders. When 'the people' start to think that it is great just to vote for "anyone that looks just like me" there will be some LARGE problems on the horizon... we'll all lose.

Manila Ryce @ 49:

CD @ 48:

Manila Ryce @ 46:

CD @ 40:

That's not the point I was making. The point is that both are corporate candidates. Nothing will be gained for women or minorities simply by having Hillary or Obama in the White House.

Even if they are "corporate candidates" it means that the corporation(s) are now including people of both genders and every race.

And? You mean the master is now allowing the slaves to spread his message? How splendid. That's what I call progress.

A President is slave to no one.

I reported this story by posting a question on a web site with about
40 women subscribers out of a total of 160. The women are outspoken,
politically active, many of them professional writers and not in the
least shy about voicing their views and opinions. None of them
responded to my request for comments on the question of Edwards and
populism.
Best, Tom Edsall

Nicole,
This is one of the best posts i've seen from you and c & l. finally attacking the credibility of a website that can no longer claim to be progressive (as others have pointed out).

The one thing I'd revise is your opening line. It's not a circular firing squad if the website your attacking is not part of your circle. And huffpo is as establishment/old media as it gets.

but good for you for going after the bums.

Women and minorities don't need no help getting what they want out of white guys.

The minorities have learned to jive and shuck, the women have learned to flatter and f*ck, they're doin' fine.

We need a law that protects the 'White Male Minority' rights.

Preacher Boob @ 58:

Women and minorities don't need no help getting what they want out of white guys.

The minorities have learned to jive and shuck, the women have learned to flatter and f*ck, they're doin' fine.

We need a law that protects the 'White Male Minority' rights.

See the writing on the all do ya? It's been along time coming but the tidal wave is about to rock your world and you freaking asked for everything that's coming. The words I, me, my and mine are tiresome white man.

There is a lot of discrimination everywhere, cabals of influence, religious, political, money and other special interests aligned along local powerholders of a similar demographic. As far as I am concerned, they all knowingly or unknowingly act like thugs, no demographic is free of predators and power-grabbers,

but ...

the assholes of the CBC-type white male right wing/neocon powerholders in this country, Canada, Europe and Australia

are the biggest butt plug holding in all the other crap.

The sooner they are removed, the sooner we will begin to eliminate the waste.

Does anyone remember the 90s? Wasn't Arianna Huffington a conservative, paving the way for Anthrax Coulter to charge Democrats with treason?

i found it amazing that HuffingtonPost was covering things like anti-war protests and the Federal Executive Administration's failure to provide documentation and accountability.

so, yeah.. i read it for awhile.. it was sort of like the early Drudge Report, before he found the money.. i'll admit, there was even a time when i read the New York Times..

On a brighter subject, i used to read the Weekly World News! While their content was also clearly based upon fiction, there was a whimsical quality to the subject matter addressed. Classic literary volcanoes like "Elvis is still Alive! Spotted at Burger King!", somewhat alleviated the hot spew lying within..

anyway, it's really no wonder that Huffington turned out to be the same as ever.. now that punditry is webiffied, she was sure to reign forth. The molehill becomes the mountain.

Considering Edsall's position on this- via the Taylor Marsh site, it seems that he just asked an open question and put the replies up that he received. Apparently no women replied.

It looks like this whole post about Edsall keeping women and minorities down was kind of well, hysterics. It's the fast paced world of blogging. What was Edsall supposed to do, analyze the race and gender of each person who replied, then ask you people how many of each "category" should be posted?

Ridiculous. If you have some proof that he prevented minority writers and women writers from replying, let us know. If not - this post is just bullshit.

The VAST majority of Huffpost readers asked/begged Arianna to have Pelosi explain impeachment perspective when interviewed, but Arianna decided not to ask. No one is perfect. However, the question is where lies the imperfections.

Black folk should be seen and not heard.