CNN/YouTube GOP Debate Open Thread: Updated

The debate that almost wasn't actually taking place two months late.

CNN will be streaming the event.

Let us know if there's any noteworthy moments.

UPDATE: John Amato: CNN opens with race baiting questions from Youtube: Rudy & Mitt spar...Sanctuary City or Mansion?

We're working on the video now, but CNN immediately brought up the race card and Rudy & Mitt instantly attacked each other like we haven't seen before. It's sad to see these freepers fight over who was easier on illegals. Compassion be damned. Mitt called NY a "sanctuary city" and Rudy accused Romney of hiring illegals that worked in his "sanctuary mansion." By the end of their argument, the crowd booed Rudy...



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First! Go Rudy! :P

13 min before the first question??

over/under

I thought Fred Thompson was shorter.

whos going to be cleaning the horseshit off the stage afterwards?

Don't you mean "steaming"?
As in the horseshit mentioned by tyree?
It IS a cold night.

i got my barf bag handy!

first off a sick sonofa bitch with a gitpicker, jesus this is a hootananny

tyree @ 6:

i got my barf bag handy!

Can I use that real quick?

Hey, remember that guy with the assault rifle in the DemTube debate?

first question asked...... Rudy..... will u aide and abet illegal aliens?

8:11

Anyone else getting this message?
"CONNECTION ERROR: The video player cannot establish a connection to the server. Please try again later."

I've been getting it since 8pm. I can watch the "preview" clip on CNN via the video player...

Was that Chuck Norris in the audience? Anyone else see that guy?

Streaming here as well.

Rudy just might cry if this keeps up

What I want to know is how many times Rudy Ghouliani will say 9/11. I bet you it's over 100.

God I hate that man.

Yeah I got that same error. I tried Safari instead of firefox and now I get audio but no video.

They're slinging at each other. It's delightful. Rudy just mentioned the illegal immigrants that Mitt hired... a little gasp/applause.

Everyone will be covered in mud when this is over.

Rudy is going to smack Romney

CNN online video is working for me...and yes, that was Chuck Norris.

BOOOOOOO RUDY HAHAHHAHAHAA

republicansLOL

REGAN STARTED ALL THIS AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS SHIT

FACT: The debate was held over 4 hours ago and this is a "cue up" of the event.
One has to wonder, since delayed telecast, if some question were either not answered
and/or scrubbed and will not be aired. With CNN being almost as lowely as Faux Noise,
I would not be surprised if some "editing" has occurred. I do NOT intend to watch
more of the typical Repug BS.

Take a drink after every time Rudy mentions 9-11,...no wait, it's a work night,..

Man in the shadows talking about shadow people...ironic.

keep laughing Mitt

so which one is gonna piss rudy off to where he throws a fit?

anyone know where to get audio of the debate ? Thanks

This is already a joke, but I doubt we'll hear a punchline anytime tonight.

Stooopid immigration questions.

Tough talk from "tough" old farts.

Turned it off as the audience started booing Rudy.

duo-core @ 16:

Rudy is going to smack Romney

MORON FIGHT!

The really big questions are:

Rudy: Will he begin another extramarital affair and remarry before the end of the debate?

Mitt: Will he change his views on abortion a few more times during the debate?

McCain: Will he be a maverick and change his maverick position on maverick Iraq a few more maverick times?

Thompson: Will he stay awake and remember the USSR doesn't exist any more?

Ron Paul: Will one of his supporters jump up and yell FREEEEEDOM while pelting the crowd with Ron Paul Liberty Dollars until he has to be physically removed?

boy these youtube video makers are a scary bunch.

fucking psychos.

What happened to the hunt for the Nine Eleven 'Conspirator' Osama Bin Laden and the U.S. Military Grade Anthrax Terrorist? Oh! Anyone who knows anything about the Project for the New American Century, The Petro Dollar, and Neo Conservatives knows that we will be in Iraq until the end of time, or until the end of the empire. This Generation 9/11 is so ******* wasted! regards

At least McCain sounds intelligent and sober about the issue.

Michael Dukakis, today unloaded on Republican Mitt Romney, one of his successors as Massachusetts governor and a candidate for president this time around.

"Fraud" was just one of the words Dukakis stuck on Romney's backside.

He said it on Up to Date, on 89.3 FM, KCUR.

Dukakis said Romney left the state a wreck: not only its economy, but its highways too. Romney didn't pay much attention to his job after he had been governor for a year and a half, Dukakis said, because he was out running for the presidency.

every moment in this debate is noteworthy!

I was talking to a friend....and he said there was a house listing for 725,000.....somebody offered 420,000.He said the bank said "TAKE IT"....this was in Watsonville Calif.Would I go out and buy a house right now? ......not in your life.....

mudshark @ 112:

#89...McCain was right on this one...Isolation did start WW2.Sanctions against both Germany(WW1)and Japan(natural resources)spurred the invasions of other countries....

Yet, how full of shit is John McCain to equate withdrawal from Iraq with isolationism?!?! My idealist 17-year-old was jumping out of his skin. "Oh my God, Mom? Did he just do that?"

Plus, my teenager's jaw dropped to the floor with Romney's "funny accent" remark, and the way the candidates were so proud of being so hardassed against immigrants. He went to elementary school in Yuma, Arizona where a lot of kids were Mexican nationals. He has this crazy idea that everybody thinks immigrants are human.

jay @ 136:

i have an lazer gun

I have a caulk gun and a squirt gun (for the cats when they get on the table.)

Monkey shit fights in zoos make more sense than the whole collective GOP presidential lot did ....................

Mel @ 361:

mudshark @ 112:

#89...McCain was right on this one...Isolation did start WW2.Sanctions against both Germany(WW1)and Japan(natural resources)spurred the invasions of other countries....

Yet, how full of shit is John McCain to equate withdrawal from Iraq with isolationism?!?! My idealist 17-year-old was jumping out of his skin. "Oh my God, Mom? Did he just do that?"

Plus, my teenager's jaw dropped to the floor with Romney's "funny accent" remark, and the way the candidates were so proud of being so hardassed against immigrants. He went to elementary school in Yuma, Arizona where a lot of kids were Mexican nationals. He has this crazy idea that everybody thinks immigrants are human.

John McCain was and is full of shit......Iraq and WW2....two completely different subjects......and hey sounds like you have a good kid there.....congrats

Independent Moron @ 162:

So, Pervertani and Romney support the continuation of genocidal farm subsidies? Not too surprising that they would lack the courage to speak out since they want to maintain their votes in the Iowas of the country. I guess welfare is OK as long as the recipient is wealthy and white.

duo-core @ 16:

Rudy is going to smack Romney

Yes you are right, its OK if you are wealthy and white. Except its not called welfare, its called entitlement. The scumbags think they are entitled to this money.

God I hate them

I just caught the a bit towards the end of the debate, and I was rather embarrassed at some of the questions coming in: do you believe in every word of the bible? what kind of gun do you have? yikes! go team america, i guess.

noitaluspacne @ 353:

Frybread @ 350:

noitaluspacne @ 348:

xoites defends Constitution @ 70:

You are wrong. Ron Paul isn't against all taxes. The IRS is not a department that covers all taxes, it only covers federal taxes. You still have state and local taxes (property tax, sales tax, etc) to take care of all the things you mentioned. Local government is more responsive to local needs than the federal government ever will be.

But how would we fund our military without federal taxes?

That is the one thing that we should be funding with federal taxes. The federal government is supposed to give the states a bill (based upon population... the whole point for the census) and the states are supposed to collect that money however they deem appropriate.

But what about the federal money that is used for highways and for natural disasters? I don't believe a state would have the resources itself to handle certain natural (or man-made) disasters.

Frybread @ 367:

noitaluspacne @ 353:

Frybread @ 350:

noitaluspacne @ 348:

But how would we fund our military without federal taxes?

That is the one thing that we should be funding with federal taxes. The federal government is supposed to give the states a bill (based upon population... the whole point for the census) and the states are supposed to collect that money however they deem appropriate.

But what about the federal money that is used for highways and for natural disasters? I don't believe a state would have the resources itself to handle certain natural (or man-made) disasters.

The answer to all problems doesn't have to be the federal government. There is the Red Cross, the Salvation Army, and there are other charity based organizations that can help when there is a (natural/man-made) disaster. The nice thing about charity organizations is that if you aren't happy with the response they provide or how they operate, you can send your money to a different one.

When you send your money into the feds, you don't have a choice how they operate, there is no accountability. Many millions of dollars and little to no accountability is a breeding ground for corruption.

Case in point: Halliburton/KBR and Iraq: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuPUFRusOBo

HDNet Dec 1 DNC debate (Sat 7:30pm ET)
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gravel kucinich paul nader

is rudy gonna run the whole country like he ran new york? his first agenda will be to split the country up into 5 boroughs.

I'm not an American but I hope for the world's sake Ron Paul wins the 2008 US elections. If history repeats it's self again and Giuliani is elected, I will think hard about where I'm going to live for the next 8 years.

Mccain: Immigrants are God's children too.

I wonder if the people he wants to bomb bomb in Iran or Go's children in his eyes as well.

Ah, they're letting Tancredo speak....

That's it. I can't watch anymore of this programmed bullshit.

And the next question is?

Guest workers. Bye.

Oh, yay. Staying up for this. Moron fight! Wheee!
I might not be able to see it; my sister's watching cartoons. Argh. I TiVoed it, though, for a few laughs when I can't watch Jon Stewart.

Who's gonna crack first, you think?

Bunch of cretins in the audience, i see

omg, Ashley was standing in front of a drawing of ronald reagan. lol. these republicans sure love their granddaddy cock.

I'd rather have a root canal than watch this sorry batch of Rethugs "debate."

Zzzzz...where's Ron Paul to spark this debate up! I'm falling asleep here.

its a 100% white debate as far as I have seen

huckabee just pandered to the troops.

Mit would take tax payer's money and use it for war and torture even though it is not his money.

I can't believe the hate filled right wing party even has a debate. They must realize that a majority of Americans, regardless of their politics, has had enough of the lies about this war, and voters will not consider the hypocrite party of pedophiles. A right wing debate? For what? To see who gets to speak at the right wing convention? What a waste of time and money. The right wing party represents the slaughter of thousands of innocent people in Iraq including our troops. Instead of focusing on those responsible for 911, they support the slaughter in Iraq. And not only support it, they still try to continue to connect the women and children of Iraq to 911. What are they going to debate about? How the people of Iraq attacked us on 911? America is tired of these hate filled talking points of Fox News.

soothsayer @ 39:

Bunch of cretins in the audience, i see

It wouldn't be a repug party without them.

How about this knife fight between Thompson, Giuliani and Romney. It was pretty comical. Especially Thompson landing a direct hit on Rudy about Kerik. Get the popcorn!!

ron paul time! :D

they cant control the fight

anderson loves prettyboy mitt.

Oh, conspiracy theory question for Ron Paul. Surprising!

Message from Mitt is Punish the children for the crimes of their parents.

Okay got that, notice Huckabee got a round of applause for disagreeing with that stupid position.

They're going at each other more than the issues. I think Huckabee will come out looking better than Mitt or Rudy because of it.

North American Union??? I just realized any democrat will beat any of these republicans....Obama/Clinton/Edwards have nothing to worry about!

Sorry, but that's a Butt-Ugly set...

Mit could pay off the National Debt on his own. We don't even need to elect him. He could volunteer.

is it just me, or do a clear majority of republican candidates look like there's no way they'll live another 4 years?

Rollo Tomassi @ 22:

Take a drink after every time Rudy mentions 9-11,...no wait, it's a work night,..

too late......................hiccup!

Ron paul is wrong. America doesn't go to war under UN resolution. We don't give a fuck about the UN.

No wonder people like Hugo Chavez want to move the UN headquarters outside of the US:

Last January, of this year 2005, we were in World Social Forum in Porto Alegre. There, several personalities requested that the seat of United Nations be taken from the United States if that country continues to violate international legal norms. Today we know that there never were any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The American people has always been very scrupulous in their demand that their rulers be truthful with them. The other peoples have also made this demand. Even though there never were weapons of mass destruction, in spite of the United Nations' objections, Iraq was bombed, occupied, and continues to be occupied. For that reason we propose to this assembly that the United Nations should leave a country that does not respect the resolutions of its own assembly.

McCain looks terrible....

Anyone wonder how you can complain about "Inside the Beltway Politics" while running to get stuck inside the beltway knee deep in politics for at least four years?

john @ 59:

Also, America doesn't pay its dues to the UN.

We've lost all moral authority in the world. And we're bankrupt.

Mandy @ 54:

North American Union??? I just realized any democrat will beat any of these republicans....Obama/Clinton/Edwards have nothing to worry about!

you're obviously uniformed about the move to a NAU. The push for a unified currency, often called the Amero is real.

Thomson can remember way back to 2000. I'm impressed.

Do I really need to tune in?

Rudy: I'm the greatest right-wing extremist!!

McCain: No sir, I am!!

Rue Paul: No, I am as loopy and radical as you can get!

The f$#%ing snowman bit gives them a legitmate cause to ridicule us. Stop being rediculous and be serious about the issues.

I actually like this format quite a bit... except for one problem...

Most of the questions so far have been big softballs. "Hey Ron and Fred, you're against lots of government spending... so, here's 90 seconds of free ad time to tell us why."

none of these kooks want to pay taxes... i want some of what they're smoking!

Anderson is loving him some Mit.

Oh COOL!

No taxes!

No fire department, no police, no schools, no streets, no sewers, no representation...

HAving bandwidth issues. Anyone know where I can access audio of the debate??????

McCain is really winning them over!!! LOL

Great... Hitler will come to power again if we leave Iraq.

If I may spin for a bit, Mccain just said that Ron Paul caused WWII and allowed Hitler to come to power.

dan @ 65:

Do I really need to tune in?

Rudy: I'm the greatest right-wing extremist!!

McCain: No sir, I am!!

Rue Paul: No, I am as loopy and radical as you can get!

yes Ron Paul is loopy because he adores the Constitution and wants to end the wars of empire.

wars of empire that the democrats will continue and expand

I want them to ask if they're all willing to be waterboarded like Ashcroft said he was.

Hitler was elected by the Germen people. And we were chomping at the bit to get involved in WWII. I like McCain but that was idiocy.

And Paul isn't an isolationst

Isolationism? Invasion under false pretext does not equate an isolationist foreign policy.

Wonder if McCain had the same 200-troop, 5 tank, and 6 helicopter escourt when he had "thanksgiving with the troops, so they can win"

Truth Be Told @ 75:

dan @ 65:

Do I really need to tune in?

Rudy: I'm the greatest right-wing extremist!!

McCain: No sir, I am!!

Rue Paul: No, I am as loopy and radical as you can get!

yes Ron Paul is loopy because he adores the Constitution and wants to end the wars of empire.

wars of empire that the democrats will continue and expand

You nicname is the biggest joke on this site.

john @ 59:

Ron paul is wrong. America doesn't go to war under UN resolution. We don't give a fuck about the UN.

No wonder people like Hugo Chavez want to move the UN headquarters outside of the US:

Last January, of this year 2005, we were in World Social Forum in Porto Alegre. There, several personalities requested that the seat of United Nations be taken from the United States if that country continues to violate international legal norms. Today we know that there never were any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The American people has always been very scrupulous in their demand that their rulers be truthful with them. The other peoples have also made this demand. Even though there never were weapons of mass destruction, in spite of the United Nations' objections, Iraq was bombed, occupied, and continues to be occupied. For that reason we propose to this assembly that the United Nations should leave a country that does not respect the resolutions of its own assembly.

I don't like what Chavez has been doing lately but he's right about this. With chimpy in charge, we've been acting like a rogue nation.

I'm not streaming this. Has anyone asked if Rudy prefers diamonds or pearls yet?

Why do they keep asking if they'll not raise taxes when we have a trillion dollar debt? Debt means we owe that much. Or do they just suffer from 'Fuzzy Math' Syndrome...

remember this one??

READ MY LIPS.... NO NEW TAXES

HAHAHHAHHAHAHA

Ben @ 67:

I actually like this format quite a bit... except for one problem...

Most of the questions so far have been big softballs. "Hey Ron and Fred, you're against lots of government spending... so, here's 90 seconds of free ad time to tell us why."

Actually there were approximately 3,500 YouTube Video questions received by CNN,
and guess what, they narrowed it down to about 40. Am sure that any hard-ball
questions were eliminated.

Straight Shooter @ 82:

I'm not streaming this. Has anyone asked if Rudy prefers diamonds or pearls yet?

Yeah, He wants a Pearl Necklace
Any Takers?

xoites defends Constitution @ 80:

Truth Be Told @ 75:

dan @ 65:

Do I really need to tune in?

Rudy: I'm the greatest right-wing extremist!!

McCain: No sir, I am!!

Rue Paul: No, I am as loopy and radical as you can get!

yes Ron Paul is loopy because he adores the Constitution and wants to end the wars of empire.

wars of empire that the democrats will continue and expand

You nicname is the biggest joke on this site.

oh, thats a snappy comment.

learn to spell before you criticize someone for being a "big joke."

Roger from Ohio @ 84:

remember this one?? READ MY LIPS.... NO NEW TAXES

the sad thing is how the cnn crowd obviously forgot that joke

John McCain just said... "Isolation is what caused World War II".
NO
NO
INVASION of other countries is what caused World War II"

Just for fun I wish we could have a debate with all of these candidates and Hillary Clinton right in the middle of them.
Although other Democrats seem to do well, she is one tough candidate in a debate and it would be a blast to watch.

Wow, mccain is a small man for taking on Ron Paul and revising history that way.

America knew about hitler. We didn't give a fuck about hitler. We knew about the genocide of Jews, just as we did about the Armenian holocaust. In both, what did we do?

Nothing.

Anderson hit Guiliani with the mistress stuff! Excellent!

LMAO at McCain getting booed!!!

Straight Shooter @ 82:

I'm not streaming this. Has anyone asked if Rudy prefers diamonds or pearls yet?

No, but one can only imagine his response would be that they both need to be waterboarded to establish their true identity.

how will all the egomaniacs feel when they get beat by a girl??

McOwned

Grover Norquist? Why isn't he in jail with his buddy Abramoff?

john @ 91:

Wow, mccain is a small man for taking on Ron Paul and revising history that way.

America knew about hitler. We didn't give a fuck about hitler. We knew about the genocide of Jews, just as we did about the Armenian holocaust. In both, what did we do?

Nothing.

Hitler wouldn't have risen to power as easily if it weren't for the Bush family fascist, Prescott acting as money launderer and war material trader before and during WW2.

nonbeliever @ 81:

john @ 59:

Ron paul is wrong. America doesn't go to war under UN resolution. We don't give a fuck about the UN.

No wonder people like Hugo Chavez want to move the UN headquarters outside of the US:

Last January, of this year 2005, we were in World Social Forum in Porto Alegre. There, several personalities requested that the seat of United Nations be taken from the United States if that country continues to violate international legal norms. Today we know that there never were any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The American people has always been very scrupulous in their demand that their rulers be truthful with them. The other peoples have also made this demand. Even though there never were weapons of mass destruction, in spite of the United Nations' objections, Iraq was bombed, occupied, and continues to be occupied. For that reason we propose to this assembly that the United Nations should leave a country that does not respect the resolutions of its own assembly.

I don't like what Chavez has been doing lately but he's right about this. With chimpy in charge, we've been acting like a rogue nation.

no offense, nonbeliever, but i don't believe you know what Chavez "has been doing lately." it's impossible to. the american press is trying to isolate and demonize Chavez.

have you seen War on Democracy or The Revolution Will Not Be Televised

Fred can't even come up with three programs he would eliminate...
McCain is ready to crash & burn...
Rudy & Mitt? "I know you are but what am I?"

xoites defends Constitution @ 70:

Oh COOL!

No taxes!

No fire department, no police, no schools, no streets, no sewers, no representation...

I agree...there is no way that the problems with our country/economy can be fixed w/o raising taxes.If they don't,the infrastructure will fail even more,and the rest will fall into varying levels of chaos.there's no way round it.

Illegal immigrants, the Chinese, Hillary.... They're all lost if they don't have someone to demonize!

Mason @ 86:

Straight Shooter @ 82:

I'm not streaming this. Has anyone asked if Rudy prefers diamonds or pearls yet?

Yeah, He wants a Pearl Necklace
Any Takers?

He Does Like To Wear Womens Clothing.ooh ..I'm gonna barf.

buy american ? fuck all we makes hamburgers now!

Paul is right. Talking about cutting taxes without cutting spending is just empty rhetoric. That being said, it makes no sense to cut taxes in a time of war. We're looking at a near trillion dollar debt. Taxes are going to have to go up.

Ghouliani just said that the story in the Politico today is a big lie -- he had nothing to do with it.

Crook. Liar.

I'm not a Republican or a Democrat, I'm an American. Ron Paul is kicking ass!

mudshark @ 101:

xoites defends Constitution @ 70:

Oh COOL!

No taxes!

No fire department, no police, no schools, no streets, no sewers, no representation...

I agree...there is no way that the problems with our country/economy can be fixed w/o raising taxes.If they don't,the infrastructure will fail even more,and the rest will fall into varying levels of chaos.there's no way round it.

all those great buildings and monuments in Washington DC were built without an income tax.

all the military prior to 1913 was raised and paid for without income taxes.

all the schools, the police, the fire protection, the infrastructure building - prior to 1913,

were all built and paid for without having an income tax.

Post American @ 107:

I'm not a Republican or a Democrat, I'm an American. Ron Paul is kicking ass!

GW is there!?

poor frederick of hollywood looks like a confused old geezer.
i expect him to turn to the other candidates and scream, "hey - you damn kids get off my lawn!!"

nonbeliever @ 105:

Paul is right. Talking about cutting taxes without cutting spending is just empty rhetoric. That being said, it makes no sense to cut taxes in a time of war. We're looking at a near trillion dollar debt. Taxes are going to have to go up.

I meant 10 trillion dollar debt.

#89...McCain was right on this one...Isolation did start WW2.Sanctions against both Germany(WW1)and Japan(natural resources)spurred the invasions of other countries....

oh and wooden boxes they use to crate up the machinery we used to use to make products with to send to china india!

LOL @ 110!!!

Fred forgot to take his Aricept tonight...

I like to pay taxes. With them I buy civilization. ~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

Doggiebobo @ 21:

FACT: The debate was held over 4 hours ago and this is a "cue up" of the event.
One has to wonder, since delayed telecast, if some question were either not answered
and/or scrubbed and will not be aired. With CNN being almost as lowely as Faux Noise,
I would not be surprised if some "editing" has occurred. I do NOT intend to watch
more of the typical Repug BS.

Interesting stuff doggiebobo.............where did you get the tip? I am very curious to find this out for certain.

gun nut goes over big with the audience

mudshark @ 112:

#89...McCain was right on this one...Isolation did start WW2.Sanctions against both Germany(WW1)and Japan(natural resources)spurred the invasions of other countries....

your wrong.

it was wall street that rebuilt and financed Hitler. Prescott Bush, Averill Harriman, the Dulles brothers all enabled the germans to rearm. without being to rearm, Germany wouldnt have been able to invade anyone.

Truth Be Told @ 108:

mudshark @ 101:

xoites defends Constitution @ 70:

Oh COOL!

No taxes!

No fire department, no police, no schools, no streets, no sewers, no representation...

I agree...there is no way that the problems with our country/economy can be fixed w/o raising taxes.If they don't,the infrastructure will fail even more,and the rest will fall into varying levels of chaos.there's no way round it.

all those great buildings and monuments in Washington DC were built without an income tax.

all the military prior to 1913 was raised and paid for without income taxes.

all the schools, the police, the fire protection, the infrastructure building - prior to 1913,

were all built and paid for without having an income tax.

HELLO!!!...it's 2007...

WOOHOO I JUST SAW A NON-WHITE PERSON IN THE AUDIENCE!!!

What a nut. Did he just threaten the candidates?

lol @ Rudy getting boo'd on guns.

mudshark @ 119:

Truth Be Told @ 108:

mudshark @ 101:

xoites defends Constitution @ 70: I agree...there is no way that the problems with our country/economy can be fixed w/o raising taxes.If they don't,the infrastructure will fail even more,and the rest will fall into varying levels of chaos.there's no way round it.

all those great buildings and monuments in Washington DC were built without an income tax.

all the military prior to 1913 was raised and paid for without income taxes.

all the schools, the police, the fire protection, the infrastructure building - prior to 1913,

were all built and paid for without having an income tax.

HELLO!!!...it's 2007...

hello.... didn't need income taxes from 1776 until 1913.

why is your MODERN time period any more unique than the great majority of this country's political existence?

what's wrong with these white men who get all mad when 'gun control' is merely mentioned?

what shortcomings in their lives are they making up for?

Truth Be Told @ 108:

mudshark @ 101:

xoites defends Constitution @ 70:

Oh COOL!

No taxes!

No fire department, no police, no schools, no streets, no sewers, no representation...

I agree...there is no way that the problems with our country/economy can be fixed w/o raising taxes.If they don't,the infrastructure will fail even more,and the rest will fall into varying levels of chaos.there's no way round it.

all those great buildings and monuments in Washington DC were built without an income tax.

all the military prior to 1913 was raised and paid for without income taxes.

all the schools, the police, the fire protection, the infrastructure building - prior to 1913,

were all built and paid for without having an income tax.

I would like to appologize for my outburst earlier.

In Baltimore before the fire that burned it down to the ground back in 1901 there was indeed a fire department. If there was a fire they would get to it as fast as they could. If they saw a Fire Insurance Medalion on the front of the house they would put the fire out. If they did not see it they would watch it burn to the ground.

RMac @ 116:

Doggiebobo @ 21:

FACT: The debate was held over 4 hours ago and this is a "cue up" of the event.
One has to wonder, since delayed telecast, if some question were either not answered
and/or scrubbed and will not be aired. With CNN being almost as lowely as Faux Noise,
I would not be surprised if some "editing" has occurred. I do NOT intend to watch
more of the typical Repug BS.

Interesting stuff doggiebobo.............where did you get the tip? I am very curious to find this out for certain.

I saw a UPI and/or AP newscast on Yahoo News and it was reported that the event
(debate) was held earlier in the day and that it would be aired, via tape delay, for
two hours from 8PM EST to 10PM EST.

Woohoo! Let's give criminals and schizophrenics AK47s!

so far its a gun nut triple-play :D

"No fire department, no police, no schools, no streets, no sewers, no representation…"

All paid for by LOCAL school & property taxes, NOT Federal Income Tax...

Romney is "pro life" but he tried to reinstate the death penalty.

My gun is bigger than yars!! CLIKCK BOOMZ

Are they seriously going down the line naming the guns they own? Is this real?

reasonable gun control
boooooooooooooo

Isn't the immigration debate amongst these old geezers, like watching a bunch of old farts at the nursing home yelling for kids to get off their lawn?

Just sayin'.....

Wow, these gun nuts.... what planet is this?

i have an lazer gun

and if u dont have a mom and a dad we dont want anything to do with u

A Mom and a Dad that loves the kid...NOOO Mom and Moms, no Dads and Dads! Might as well throw the lil kiddies to the hounds...

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