Will Sen. Feinstein support a filibuster on FISA?
(Guest post by Julia Rosen. Julia is the Online Political Director of the Courage Campaign and an editor at Calitics.)
The movement to censure Senator Feinstein for her votes confirming Mukasey and Southwick brought together 35,000 people and over 40 grassroots groups, organizations and clubs. While the resolution failed to pass, it changed the conversation.
It changed the conversation online. It changed the conversation at the California Democratic Party Executive Board Meeting and within the party staff. And finally it leaped into the media's spotlight, from the NYT editorial board to Fox News. Conversation changers are great, but where the rubber meets the road is on the Senate floor.
And there is a real whopper up next week, when FISA comes up and telecom immunity is debated and at this point, likely filibustered. Sen. Dodd is promising to do whatever it takes to block telecom immunity, but he can't do it alone.
During a speech about the move to censure Sen. Feinstein, California Democratic Party Chairman Art Torres relayed a conversation he had with the Senator, where he brought up telecom immunity. He stated that it was "very important" to him, so we are asking that he relay the importance of holding the line on telecom immunity to the Senator. Chair Torres has Senator Feinstein's ear and they go way back together. While we know it is hard for regular folks to get through to Senator Feinstein, hopefully Chairman Torres can. Take action: sign the letter to Chairman Torres.
1mpeach!
Make Betty Crocker do her job!
Feinstein supports Bush? REALLY?
Naaa! Can't be! She is a DEMOCRAT and OPPOSES
Bush's policies!....right?
RIGHT????
"Will Sen. Feinstein support a filibuster on FISA?"
She damn well beter if she want's to get re-elected in California.
Did I understand it correctly that her husband has made a lot of money off of army contracts?
I trust that woman as far as I can toss her.
Keep the pressure on her.
uummm... no she won't and guess what, NO Dem (esp. HC) will repeal Patriot or mca or restore habeas corpus if elected Pres.
Anyone wanna take bets?
I can't figure out how to sign it--? Am I a total doofus (nah!!! :-)), or am I missing something?
Big John @ 7:
As sure as gasoline will NEVER go below $3 per gallon again.
JudyLou @ 8:
Scroll down to the bottom of the page. You need only to fill in the blanks about your email address, you first and last name and your zip code.
The party should REVOKE her and send her over to Lieberman.
My stomach went into immediate convulsions just seeing the snip-pic
Wasn't able to get to the story
There has to be a better way to live
is Feinstein not lieberman in drag? does she sit with a wide stance?
trevor @ 3:
it's beginning to look alot like what lieberman does. she says she is a dem but votes repug
Thanks, POP!
L.A. Confidential @ 12:
I suppose I should be grateful I'm not one of the brain dead clods that has been brainwashed in this country by the powerful to serve their own ends.
the stasi enablers need to pay
While we know it is hard for regular folks to get through to Senator Feinstein, hopefully Chairman Torres can.
it's regular people who elect her as our rep. if she is only willing to talk to "money",
well, i suggest we collect some money and waterboard her. she has chosen the corporate
whores over her constiuents.
Ex-Stasi Spy Chief Markus Wolf Hired By Homeland Security?
what is the DEAL with that hair?
no wonder she can't figure out what people want...she's stuck in the 50's
AJFan @ 19:
Nothing new there. Bush Co hired a top former KGB man to help put the polish on this Homeland Crap crap right after he stole the election.
AJFan @ 19:
Al Martin knows what he's talking about. He was once part of the club. I've linked to several of his articles since but I'm not sure anyone even bothered to look.
http://www.greatchange.org/ov-martin,case_for_sedition.html
CD @ 4:
She is not running for re-election, I think she claimed this was her last term, since she just got re-elected I think she has a few more years left in her to continue funneling funds towards her hubby's cartel. So she will get plenty of chances to generally give us liberals the middle finger for a few more glorious years. And then is off to enjoy retirement! Who would have guessed that this fucking hag would be able to extract so much political mileage from the murder of SF's gay major two decades ago...
What a dynamic duo the Feinstein marriage must be, she profits from politicians deaths and her hubby profits from our military deaths...
I have opposed Feinstein since her term as mayor of S.F. Her politics are based on her role as corporate/developer shill, with a veneer of Democrat (ie. antigun, pro-nanny state). I have never voted for her and would have had a tough decision to make if she had ever had any sort of challenge for election. She is the Lieberman of California.
Although I dislike Hillary Clinton & her politics, I would have little trouble voting for her in the general election against any of the Republican candidates (other than Ron Paul, who I agree with 50% & disagree with 50%. At least you know his politics are consistent.). There is no way that Feinstein would ever get my vote for any office.
does she have stock in "Rayette" hair spray?
Don't expect much from someone that wears a circa 1960's hat helmet.
I no longer have any faith in Feinstein at all.. So do I think she will support the filibuster on FISA??? Doubtful... Fact is, it should have never had to come to this as a strategy... FISA reauthorization as it is currently composed should have been voted down up front. But then DiFi either caved or was willingly complicit some kind of way in assisting in granting the telecoms retroactive immunity on the front end.. So my thinking is, why wouldn't she assist in torpedoing this filibustering as well on the back end in whatever way she can....
Yea, I seem to remember something or other about her doing something in voting against it in some wildly touted bit of blog news a couple weeks ago or whenever that vote was..... Didn't seem to help and my personal feelings was it was nothing but a p.r. move.. Probably after the vote count to pass had already been clearly confirmed beforehand thereby giving her an easy out to pacify the California rabble calling for her head and allowing her a pass to run that bit of p.r. drama that meant nothing....
IF this means that much to Torres and he has any real sway with her, more power to him.. Someone need to talk, cajole, knock, some sense whatever it takes into her... Finally, IF Torres is as concerned with preventing the retroactive telecom immunity crap being part of the FISA reauthorization, then he doesn't need someone like me writing emails that only his pogues will see..... IF this is that important, and it damned well ought to be, he'll get to it and make it happen anyway....... Because its the right goddamned thing to do................JD
The sun will rise in the west before the other wing of the National WarParty does something like stand up for We, the People.
Strike/Boycott 08! Act like your freedom depended on it>
So,
Umm, so is he for immunity or against it?
I must be tired today, because all I can think to say about Feinstein is "fuck all these fucking fucks." I mean, the Military Commissions Act hasn't been repealed yet, right? Fuck all these fucks. I need a drink.
Why is Fienstien supporting NAZI AT&T, Yahoo and BUSH
illegally wire tapping americans
Of COURSE she will not support a filibuster. The Dems need someone to run against her when her current term is up.
Diversion issue. The FCC is all set to RELAX what little and unenforced regulations exist on FURTHER media consolidation.
Good point Old Billy, indeed, what DOES 'very important to me' mean as regards Art Torres motives..... hmmm...... IS he fer it as written or agin it???? Does he favor tapping domestic phone lines for no goof reason or is he against that and immunity for the telecoms... I think that is something worth knowing about.. Anyone got the skinny on Torres actual postion on this question??
Personally I'm been having a hard time lately trusting any of these politicians right now.. In either party... I mean, Kucinich pondering Ron Paul as a running mate instead of a dem... What's that about... Cause I ain't buying the unification and healing the nation line...... It's already starting to shape up as another one of those lessor of two evils type deals instead of a choice for someone a person can actually feel good about voting for....JD
I have to say while I applaud the actions of progressive organizations, this constant plugging of petitions, which are list builders for these people (so who knows what they're doing with the names) is getting very tiresome. Enough already.
surely she knows she' on the wrong side of the issue...she has to know that.There has to be away to get her out of office.....This will be her last term,and she 's showing her real colors now.She could end up in a very powerfull place after the next election.If she flips and joins Lieberman.
Will Sen. Feinstein support a filibuster on FISA?
Will Henry Hyde still be dead tomorrow?
Will John tell Marsha about Sally?
So are the progressives Californians signing this going to be called "fringe" and "pre nursing home" by Bob "wouldn't know a political strategy if it bit him on the pompous ass" Mulholland?
Feinstain supports retroactive immunity, and she will do everything she can to get it.
Have no doubt about that.
CD @ 4:
She doesn't come back up until 2012.
XDC@36;
I'm totally guessing here, but I'm going with a no, yes, no in that order..................Not actually sure who John, Marsha or Sally is but if I know my Feinsteins and I have been recently schooled as to her true colors she will not support any filibuster. And I know good and well that if Henry Hyde is dead today, he will be dead tomorrow and if he's not, that will be some neat trick he pulled... And then we can all ponder over Kenny boys actual fate and whereabouts again....so do I get to pick a toy from the top shelf????? Jus askin....JD
Big John @ 7:
The President does not repeal laws -- the Congress does.
We will restore the Habeas corpus restrictions by the end of this Congress.
Jaycubed @ 24 (other than Ron Paul, who I agree with 50% & disagree with 50%. At least you know his politics are consistent.)."
Jay, you should consider that RP FOR SURE has made a series of very nasty agreements with TANCREDO about how to handle immigration.
Ron Paul is aligned to Jesse Helms, and every other rightwing white supremacist asshole on the planet.
Consistency, in this case, is the hobgoblin of little, hateful, minds.
Jack Damage @ 27 "Yea, I seem to remember something or other about her doing something in voting against it in some wildly touted bit of blog news a couple weeks ago"
Which was a MAJOR MISCONCEPTION about her actions.
She agreed to have her amendment granting immunity removed from the bill in committee so it could be voted out. She had that done not by removing it, or having it voted down, but by fighting for a replacement amendment which superceded it without damaging the amendment for filing on the Senate floor, which she will soon do.
People who read that as progress didn't eat their Wheaties that day.
Ya know Paul in LA;
I'm not sure I follow on that habeus corpus comment..I sincerely hope habeus corpus as it existed before Bush and Gonzales mucked around with it is restored.. Not sure what you mean by restrictions.... I'm not looking for an argument, I'm curious... Thanks if you respond...........JD
The Republicans should push for an investigation of Senator Feinstein's war profiteering.
http://www.metroactive.com/metro/03.21.07/dianne-feinstein-resigns-0712.html
Jack Damage @ 44 I'm not sure I follow on that habeus corpus comment..I sincerely hope habeus corpus as it existed before Bush and Gonzales mucked around with it is restored.. Not sure what you mean by restrictions..."
Legally, you and I both still have Habeas corpus rights, our Article 1: Section 9 rights.
"The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."
The restriction on those rights is directed at the detainees in Guantanamo. However, of course Bushco is not upholding ANY of our Constitutional rights, so it's rather moot at the moment.
Torture, blocking Habeas Corpus, extreme rendition (disappearing), domestic spying, all the rest of these anti-Constitutional manipulations in order to create a police state -- these are all going down in flames within the next couple of years.
Unlike many disaffiliated persons here, I actually do still have faith in my country, and in the Constitution which will be here after I'm gone. Doesn't make as much sci-fi paranoia to have faith in country, Constitution, and Congress, but I do.
Paul in L.A.@43;
Yes... its true, I bought into the whole thing so I guess I didn't eat my wheaties that day... Gotta admit it... Though, as I recall the situation... For me, it was a pretty crappy news day (like most anymore) and I was looking for something positive to end it on... As it turns out, that wasn't it....(sigh)......JD
Paul in L.A.;
Thanks for the clarification and the specifics on habeus corpus... I appreciate it.. Truth is, somewhere deep inside me, hidden away is a similar ray of hope for our nation... Might not seem like it the way I rant sometimes.. But the truth is... If I didn't have hope that all of us will see our way past this present nightmare and see our nation restored ... I wouldn't sound so outraged sometimes, really, I wouldn't even bother posting here at all....regards; JD
Paul in LA @ 41:
Okay smartass...A Dem President WILL NOT SUPPORT the repeal of said laws even with a Dem Congress and Senate.
Who gives a fuck about Lieberman, I mean Feinstein. That's the republic party ain't it?
Feinstein will support anything her fellow neocon/zionist republican, Lieberman, tells her to support.
Diane,
The 1950s called. They want their hair style back.
DiFi is invincible. She needs answer to no one but AIPAC.
She's bought and paid for... and done...stick a fork in her. She's been in DC too long, she caught the disease. And who the hell dresses her for God's sake?
Is it just me, or does Feinstein look like Giuliani in drag?
she is the wife of a war profiteer, friend of boosh.
as long as there is a dlc, dscc and dccc, ther will be no return of civil liberties nor will there be an end to war.
OK guys, here's the scenario.
Feinswine will take the issue "under serious consideration" and will "study it very carefully." If she were Catholic she'd say she consulted a priest.
Then she'll vote for retroactive immunity and say something like: "I struggled with this and it is the ONLY thing that is just and makes sense. I know some will be disappointed, but we do have a Constitution etc."
And maybe she'll say something really stupid like: "The telecom industry isn't as greedy and craven as we all know them to be." (remember: "Mukasey isn't as bad as Gonzo")
Judge Fails to Hold Developer In Contempt for Comments
By CHARLES V. BAGLI
Published: March 23, 2004
The developer Larry A. Silverstein narrowly escaped a civil contempt charge yesterday in the seventh week of a trial pitting him against his insurers for billions of dollars he seeks to rebuild the World Trade Center.
Judge Michael B. Mukasey found that the developer had violated an order not to discuss the case publicly and said that his explanation for disregarding the order was both ''contradictory and not credible.''
But Judge Mukasey decided against holding the developer in contempt because Mr. Silverstein's comments had not affected the jury and the finding could have a ''highly prejudicial effect'' on the trial.
Grab your ankles bitch, you'll be doing that soon enough if you fuck this one up. God, I despise this woman now!
I want my republic back . . . did anyone see Naomi Klein on Keith Obermann tonight?
I swear that's Tom Lantos with a wig!
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20070221/capt.sge.ulb14.210207154141...
Phuck that greasy DINO cvnt. Then again, democraps and Repugs: same branch, differerent tree.
Big John @ 49 "Okay smartass...A Dem President WILL NOT SUPPORT the repeal of said laws even with a Dem Congress and Senate."
Even if true, so what? The Congress can repeal laws, and it's not like the President has any real say in that. This Congress, even with this group of votes, will repeal some of what has been done. Next Congress is going to do a LOT of cleaning up after the mess Boy Wonder made -- most of which they didn't think would stick, but their policy is do 200% and maybe 50% will stick.
FISA RESTORE, the House bill, is a good start at stopping the spying, but clearly the immunity would hurt that process infinitely. So if Feinstain inserts it in the Senate bill, it is up to the House to refuse to allow it to survive the negotiation afterward, and given the entire House Dem leadership has come out STRONGLY against any such immunity, I think the House will prevail, and Feinstain will have the shame, and no glory to go with it.
Anyhow, John, a little faith is the difference between hysteria and a measured anger that can get things done.
Yes, and when Inhofe was going after Gore in Senate testimony I thought she was going to
kiss him while she softly and gently admonished him that it was her committee and not his. A potential
female version of Joe Lieberman. I wonder where Rahm Emanuel stands? Any wonder how
Bush got elected twice when you have soft heads RUNNING THE OPPOSITION PARTY?
Paul in LA @ 64:
Good luck dude...you will learn the truth soon enough...hope you got a plan B
The Democratic Party in Cali needs to send a message to Art Torres, since he allowed Bob Muholland to hijack the attempt to censure and then proceed to scold the Democrats who wanted Feinstein censured in the first place for daring to bring that censure measure against her.
Feinstein's hubby? Don't let him near your pension fund if you're a Union member. The Carpenters' Union lost $40 million of their pension because Richard Blum invested it without the permission of the Union members, as required by NLRB regulations.
Blum collected $8million in commission while losing union members' hard earned retirement pensions. When the government can't get its hands on your Social Security, they'll hire guns like Richard Blum to hijack your pension, invest it, lose it and wave "buh-bye" as you enter your retirement years still needing to work because your pension is gone up in smoke.
I got a cold call from At & T. The young lady had no idea what I was talking about when I asked her if she was calling to spy on me. I asked her if she ever heard of FISA, retroactive immunity, unwarranted wiretapping,... she was clueless. So then I told her that her boss wanted to start charging people for Internet access, censor broadcasts of bands like Pearl Jam, & bully their customers in their terms of service,... she was shaking in fear by the time she hung up.
Haha!
LanceThruster @ 53:
Sad but true. Her term is up in 2012 and, given her age, she'll likely retire.
Probably grooming her daughter to carry on her miserable legacy.
Senator Blum isn't going to do anything about FISA.
The reason she isn't is because her husband is a military contractor.
Profit begins at home.
When are folks going to realize that?
I hope that Justice holds out in the Supreme Court...whats his name, Stevens.
If he is replaced the republicans will challenge Edwards/Obama/Clinton if they try
what Cheney is doing now. They will challenge the constitutionality of any
democratic president to actually govern the way they govern themselves.
Big John @ 66 "Good luck dude...you will learn the truth soon enough...hope you got a plan B"
If you need Plan B for YOUR activities, leave me out of it.
(Uh, you do have activities? Or do you just know truths that others have to find out later, while you do nothing?)
More than next years presidential elections vote; I look forward to vote against Fienstein.
I have never felt so betrayed as an American as she made me feel with the AG vote.
We need to hold Senator Harry Reid accountable for what this bitch does, because if he is aware of exactly what she is going to do with this bill, he should make dame sure it never reaches the floor.
We should be tired of the sittty games, not just the republicans are playing at our expense, but these ass holes like feinstine and pelosi ad reid
We are not stupid as they attempt to play us.
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