F Sean for covering up for Rudy's looting of the city treasury to pay for his new wife smell fetish

against people to stupid to understand checkers?

Ummm, I think it's supposed to be:

against people too stupid to understand checkers?

Yeah, the Sandy Berger line was weak (bordering on retarded), but you should read your post before clicking send, especially when you're zapping some idiot for being stupid.

Sean, great way to put that HS diploma to use!

Sandy Berger's name has become the new "uh" when repubs speak. Just fill in the silent part of the speech with his name whether it has any meaning to the subject at hand or not.

So because of what Sandy Berger did we should ignore anything Rudy did? Yeah, that makes as much sense as any other tripe coming from the right.

I'm going to sound idiotic for this but:

Who the heck is Sandy Berger?

I've never heard of this person. (I'm not kidding! Please educate!)

well the trouble with Hannity's oh so impressive "rebuttal" is that most Americans have no idea who Sandy Berger is, AND don't care.

Sure they recognize the name Hillary Clinton, but Sandy Berger? Not so much.

I agree. They are in trouble and since they are a one trick pony they only know one trick, and it is old and tiresome.

As usual Hannity makes excuses for a con man. The problem with making excuses for any candidate is that they will do even more crooked things because they know they will get away with it. It is people like Hannity that always bring to power an oppressive regime because they do not have the guts to call those candidates on even the seemingly small things.

JJohnson @ 10:

I'm going to sound idiotic for this but:

Who the heck is Sandy Berger?

I've never heard of this person. (I'm not kidding! Please educate!)

Sean Hannity "Oooh I'm so glad you never heard of him. He's the guy that killed Vince Foster for Bill and Hillary. Oh and he also gave keys to the world trade center to the terrorists."

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First- you're a fucking moron. Nobody likes rapists- Not even rapists.

And Clinton? He's not a rapist. Smooth talking player, sure.

Oh, and what the fuck did this post have to do with Clinton?

Every time guys like you talk, Clinton's dick pops out of your mouth.

"Do you ever get that feeling that we’re playing chess, with serious real life consequences no less, against people too stupid to understand checkers?"

EXACTLY.

ALL the time.

And the frightening thing is these people make up half of America.

Clinton did not rape anyone. 'click'

Sean hannity is still a tool. 'click'

Ghouliani is still a crooked, mobbed up, thrice married fascist who can't even get his children to vote for him.

'click'

KING ME.

Roger Ailes and Rudy are buddies. Ailes makes the call; O'Reilly, Hannity etc. fall in line. They have no principles to compromise.

Do you ever get that feeling that we’re playing chess, with serious real life consequences no less, against people to stupid to understand checkers?

It's more like playing a game of taikyoku shogi against someone who doesn't understand tic-tac-toe.

why do i get the feeling that republicans need a digitalGPS just to find their way to the fly on thier pants just to take a piss?

When the cupcakes start playing the Clenis reruns, you its been at least a week since the last republican sex scandal .
Isn't due time for another RSS?

JJohnson @ 10:

I'm going to sound idiotic for this but:

Who the heck is Sandy Berger?

I've never heard of this person. (I'm not kidding! Please educate!)

Berger was one of (the last?) Bill Clinton's National Security Advisor. He pled guilty(in 2005) to a misdemeanor for removing classified documents from the National Archives(in 2003) while preparin' to testify before the 9/11 Commission.

Here's what I find funny about Hannity's crack: I consider myself a political junkie. Not encyclopedic, but I know who's who. But I wouldn't be able to recognize Berger if ya showed me a picture of him surrounded by the rest of the Clinton cabinet with which he served. To me, he's just a name. And if I hadn't had a previous memory of his name, I'd swear the GOP screech machine just made the name up.

That's what you call "tu quoque"--or the "Clinton did it too" fallacy. It works anytime on anyone who has made an approving remark about Clinton at any time in their life.

I got this from Carpetbagger but I'll link to the producer as he deserves the credit.

Rudy, the only republican worth cheating with

A fantastic ad parody

So two wrongs make it right, Sean? Only in your delusional and hypocritical universe. Only a soulless sociopath like you could make excuses for people like Rudy Capone and the other jugheads that call themselves Republicans.

If we don't nominate a goddamned Clinton, we take away 3/4 of the Republicans' ammo. Clinton's the only candidate they'd have a prayer of beating, because they've been rehearsing for it for almost a decade.

Hillary Clinton - Official Candidate Of The New World Order. Take it to the bank. Why else would the oh-so-liberal media have been cramming her down our throats since day negative fifteen? She's bad, bad, bad news. Break the cycle. Vote for someone not named Bush or Clinton. Rocket Science this is not.

FOX is State Sponsored TV --------------------------------

Jeon Ji-Yung @ 40:

If we don't nominate a goddamned Clinton, we take away 3/4 of the Republicans' ammo. Clinton's the only candidate they'd have a prayer of beating, because they've been rehearsing for it for almost a decade.

Hillary Clinton - Official Candidate Of The New World Order. Take it to the bank. Why else would the oh-so-liberal media have been cramming her down our throats since day negative fifteen? She's bad, bad, bad news. Break the cycle. Vote for someone not named Bush or Clinton. Rocket Science this is not.

you nailed it

going to a past topic to justify the present...or atleast to equate the present is pathetic.That doesn't make the present justifiable...childish BS.

Sean Hannity: Sandy Berger took classified documents out of the National Archive = Democrat ideology is bad.

It is absolutely disgusting that this gets so many headlines and his ties to Qatar get nothing. Could the media just once focus on a real story?

PERFECT analogy! "We're living in a world of 'chess', and the repugs are too simple to understand the concept of checkers." ...more or less. This sums up my evaluation of the whole repug world in dealing with issues. "less taxes is better", "send 'em all back to Mexico", "nuke 'em, or blow the shit out of 'em", "they need a father to be on the road to success", and so on and so on.

I could shoot all these dumb ass and dense statements down in a heartbeat with complications they don't care to confuse their simple minds with, but it's a waste of time. Much like vannity and his kind, they like to bloat out simple ass, self righteous statements that don't take into account real life situations that are much more complex than they are capable of dealing with. I have a few relatives in the fold that fit the bill. They'll write off someone cause they are gay, or they had a child out of wedlock, or they are an "illegal", or whatever fits their simple minded world. This is what we are up against.

And then they call us "progressives" and we think we are so smart, etc. It's because they are so f*cking dumb, not that we are smart. Heartless, marching in a straight line, selfish sons and daughters of bush. Just idiots really, and so easy to persuade to march to their ruin, and take us with them.

I believe this is what it comes down to. It's much easier to just nuke somebody than to actually try to work out issues with "diplomacy". Too complicated and sometimes takes compromise. They aren't good at that, in fact, they hate that.

They can be "good people", but just damned simple minded fools. I'm pretty convinced of it. Granted, there are some that selectively extract bits of information and make "intelligent decisions" based on their selective thinking...but these are just fools that refuse to listen to reason and reality.

God, I'm so smart!

Boys and Girls, unfortunately nearly half of the US looks at Fox as a legitimate source of news. I'm hoping that the energy that's going into this discussion is just the tip of the iceberg as far as the energy we're all putting out on the street to affect change.

We have to have a Democrat in the White House in '08. Volunteer. Spread the word. Get out there on the streets!

Got to bluestatements.com to wear it proud and say it loud.

“Giuliani was impotent due to his prostate cancer and had not had sex with Nathan for the preceding year.”

“Rudy is not an adulterer. He’s impotent.” There you go Sean, I fixed it for you. Now run with it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani#Marriages_and_family

Rudy or Hillary.....doesn't matter, we, the citizens of America and the world, lose either way. All of the people running for President on both sides are corrupted, some more than others. It's not possible to even be in a position to think about running for high political office in this country unless you have the support (sic money) from corporatists, lobbyists, elitists, whatever. They all have to "pay the piper" at some point, by creating and following policies that are only in their interest, not for the greater good of the people.

Even if a an actual American hero emerges, someone who speaks truth to power and is willing to try and reverse the slide into fascism, s/he will never get elected (look at how cleverly we "elected" Bush twice, without even voting for him). And, if somehow the rigged voting machines fail or the Supreme Court won't go along, and an honest, hard-working, intelligent person were to be elected - well they have ways of dealing with that, too.

It's getting harder and harder to be an optimist, but I keep hoping a real leader will step out from behind the curtain.

Going on the assumption that all Repugs are liars, I conclude that they are actually terrified of Hillary Clinton. Seems Sean and his ilk are going out of their way to discourage Dem voters from supporting her. Why else would they neglect to mention the Gallup poll which comes to the opposite conclusion. Seems like it would make more sense to push Gallup results into the forefront if you actually wanted your boy to run against Hillary.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2007/11/clinto...

Republicans are the party of two wrongs make it oh so Right.

Seriously, every single one of their "arguments" boil down to that. Either that or they equate two unequal things. If Romney killed and ate some babies, it's "Oh yeah, well Bill Clinton has hair AND SO DID STALIN" or something along those lines.

Jeon Ji-Yung @ 40:

If we don't nominate a goddamned Clinton, we take away 3/4 of the Republicans' ammo. Clinton's the only candidate they'd have a prayer of beating, because they've been rehearsing for it for almost a decade.

Hillary Clinton - Official Candidate Of The New World Order. Take it to the bank. Why else would the oh-so-liberal media have been cramming her down our throats since day negative fifteen? She's bad, bad, bad news. Break the cycle. Vote for someone not named Bush or Clinton. Rocket Science this is not.

Why is this ooooh soooo obvious to everyone but the Clinton sycophants in the Democratic party? Almost everyone I know can no longer stomach the republicans. But they always follow up those sentiments by saying "so who am I going to vote for, Hillary?"

And even if she did sneak out a narrow victory, she would cost the Dems at least 10 House seats, and a couple of Senate seats as the party's standard bearer. All progressives need to help the Dems dump this corporate mouthpiece, and take back FDR's party of "the people!"

Jeon Ji-Yung @ 40:

If we don't nominate a goddamned Clinton, we take away 3/4 of the Republicans' ammo. Clinton's the only candidate they'd have a prayer of beating, because they've been rehearsing for it for almost a decade.

Hillary Clinton - Official Candidate Of The New World Order. Take it to the bank. Why else would the oh-so-liberal media have been cramming her down our throats since day negative fifteen? She's bad, bad, bad news. Break the cycle. Vote for someone not named Bush or Clinton. Rocket Science this is not.

You just made the case to prove the myth of the so-called liberal media. Only a corporate media would push for the "Official Candidate Of The New World Order."

NoGWBpolicyleftinplacesays @ 64:

Jeon Ji-Yung @ 40:

If we don't nominate a goddamned Clinton, we take away 3/4 of the Republicans' ammo. Clinton's the only candidate they'd have a prayer of beating, because they've been rehearsing for it for almost a decade.

Hillary Clinton - Official Candidate Of The New World Order. Take it to the bank. Why else would the oh-so-liberal media have been cramming her down our throats since day negative fifteen? She's bad, bad, bad news. Break the cycle. Vote for someone not named Bush or Clinton. Rocket Science this is not.

Why is this ooooh soooo obvious to everyone but the Clinton sycophants in the Democratic party? Almost everyone I know can no longer stomach the republicans. But they always follow up those sentiments by saying "so who am I going to vote for, Hillary?"

And even if she did sneak out a narrow victory, she would cost the Dems at least 10 House seats, and a couple of Senate seats as the party's standard bearer. All progressives need to help the Dems dump this corporate mouthpiece, and take back FDR's party of "the people!"

I'm with both of you guys! Clinton would be a disaster for the country!

Terrible @ 68:

NoGWBpolicyleftinplacesays @ 64:

Jeon Ji-Yung @ 40:

I'm with both of you guys! Clinton would be a disaster for the country!

And the disaster of the past 7 years has been more then enough disaster!

Terrible @ 68:

NoGWBpolicyleftinplacesays @ 64:

Jeon Ji-Yung @ 40:

If we don't nominate a goddamned Clinton, we take away 3/4 of the Republicans' ammo. Clinton's the only candidate they'd have a prayer of beating, because they've been rehearsing for it for almost a decade.

Hillary Clinton - Official Candidate Of The New World Order. Take it to the bank. Why else would the oh-so-liberal media have been cramming her down our throats since day negative fifteen? She's bad, bad, bad news. Break the cycle. Vote for someone not named Bush or Clinton. Rocket Science this is not.

Why is this ooooh soooo obvious to everyone but the Clinton sycophants in the Democratic party? Almost everyone I know can no longer stomach the republicans. But they always follow up those sentiments by saying "so who am I going to vote for, Hillary?"

And even if she did sneak out a narrow victory, she would cost the Dems at least 10 House seats, and a couple of Senate seats as the party's standard bearer. All progressives need to help the Dems dump this corporate mouthpiece, and take back FDR's party of "the people!"

I'm with both of you guys! Clinton would be a disaster for the country!

And the last 7 years has been a glorious productive walk in the park?

Hoo Boy. Sean, take Rudy's impotent johnson out of your mouth.

boy howdy, that show is just unwatchable. Natterting, chattering, interrupting talking over the top of of everyone --except when high priest Sean begins to opine, then a respectful silence. Colmes is treated like the kid from the mail room allowed to sit at the table to give the impression that the execs are "listening" and have an open door policy. He couldn't complete one sentence without sean and the two bimbos turning away and ignoring him while they continued to chatter aimlessly.

I got a headache from listening to that short clip and leanred nothing more than that I am wise to not own a TV.

this just proves what I've been saying all along. zogby is a fucking tool of the neocons and the repugs/neocons want billary to run so they can give a trudy a chance or just plain steal the election.

It has been with all the shadenfreude possible watching hannity, tweety, and today the bobbleheads on abc will, bumiller, and noonan spin this shagfest scandal...for all the hooting about duplicity during the Clinton years. Their faces painfully wince as the work like Elvis squeezing out a steaming couric of spin as 'old news' to keep rudy's hopes alive. It is so much like the 'Magic Christian'. Just how much cesspool are you willing to wade into to. The discomfort obvious in their faces as they trump up these vacuous shadow games and they are wading in deep and it really stinks. Keep talking and keep spinning. Here is a wingless reality smacking down a right or left wing spin. hannity is the emptiest suit of them all.

I'm a little surprise it did not go down like this:

"but..but...remember the Clenis! The almighty evil Clenis!"

But you have to remember that most people only pay attention to the sound bites, and the right is MUCH better at angry sound bites than the middle or the left. They've got "righteous indignation" down to an art form, even when they're drawing with crayons. We need "righteous truth" whenever they spew their crap, and we need to have it distilled down to sound bites that people can grasp.

mrogi @ 85:

The Sandy Burger line is hilarious. There is really no comeback for that one.

Yes, there is no comeback for stupidity. You're finally catching on.

Notice Hannity checking out her rack?

The best thing possible for progressive politics would be that idiots like Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh keeping carrying the torch for republicans. They continually make fools of themselves. More and more moderates are being peeled away from the republican party as they wake up to the monolithic and hateful drumbeat these idiots put out there. I can only cheer each time Hannity says something stupid.

gumby @ 88:

Notice Hannity checking out her rack?

Doubt it. He was probably wondering if her bra would fit him.

Billt @ 76:

boy howdy, that show is just unwatchable. Natterting, chattering, interrupting talking over the top of of everyone --except when high priest Sean begins to opine, then a respectful silence. Colmes is treated like the kid from the mail room allowed to sit at the table to give the impression that the execs are "listening" and have an open door policy. He couldn't complete one sentence without sean and the two bimbos turning away and ignoring him while they continued to chatter aimlessly.

I got a headache from listening to that short clip and leanred nothing more than that I am wise to not own a TV.

This is probably the most cogent and articulate description of the show that I have ever seen. Kudos.

When is the media going to challange Rudy on this? lie!? YouTube Question for Giuliani

I dunno about 'watching' Hannity's show, but we usually turn on his audio when we're mucking horse stalls, he's got the perfect 'beat' for shoveling sh*t.

Sandy Berger is incredibly relevant!

Ever since he announced his candidacy for president it is important that we balance these unfair attacks against Rudy with...

What? Berger is not in the race?

Well that doesn't mean... It is still...but Clinton...

Forget it.

liberalbiasboy @ 60:

Going on the assumption that all Repugs are liars, I conclude that they are actually terrified of Hillary Clinton. Seems Sean and his ilk are going out of their way to discourage Dem voters from supporting her. Why else would they neglect to mention the Gallup poll which comes to the opposite conclusion. Seems like it would make more sense to push Gallup results into the forefront if you actually wanted your boy to run against Hillary.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2007/11/clinton_would_l.html

Hillary would be far down my list of Democrats I'd vote for in the primary, but I'll tell you one thing, that Zogby poll Hannity is quoting in the clip is total Republican fantasy. I mean, Zogby is generally skewed to the right, but they've outdone themselves on this one.

Mike freaking Huckabee beats Hillary by 5% in a national election?! LMAO! They must only be polling Republicans in rural Arkansas. Hell, probably less than 25% of the people in the US have even heard of Mike Huckabee.

Yes, Hillary brings some serious negatives in the sense that she would fire up the Republican base in a general election, but she has some upside too. And I'm saying this as someone who will be voting Edwards or maybe Obama in February.

No doubt she'd draw a lot of women to the polls, and a lot of African Americans too, especially with Bill campaigning. In fact, I understand Hillary still generally outpolls Obama among a lot of African American voters.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2007/11/black_...

Anyway, the point is that, like it or not, Hillary would be a very formidable nominee in November, and this jive about her losing to Huckabee or Fred "Snooozzzze" Thompson or pretty much any of this sorry-ass grab bag of Republican candidates, is Fox News La-La Land "Up is Down" wishful thinking.

No I don't get the feeling that we're playing chess against people playing checkers.

Progressives abide by election rules. Progressives abide by constitutional rules. Progressives abide by international law. Progressives abide by journalistic rules.

Conservatives do whatever the hell they want.

I get the feeling that progressives are playing a game that the conservatives on the other side pretend there are no rules *they* are bound by. And the major media outlets, and the beltway insider crowd, goes along with it. Allowing them to continue to flaunt the very rules that allow us to live and work together peacefully.

That was probably actually Rupert Murdoch telling him what to say and think. There is a reason why Murdoch has provided HRC fund raising assistance.

JJohnson @ 55:

Andy K @ 32:

JJohnson @ 10:

I'm going to sound idiotic for this but:

Who the heck is Sandy Berger?

I've never heard of this person. (I'm not kidding! Please educate!)

Berger was one of (the last?) Bill Clinton's National Security Advisor. He pled guilty(in 2005) to a misdemeanor for removing classified documents from the National Archives(in 2003) while preparin' to testify before the 9/11 Commission.

Here's what I find funny about Hannity's crack: I consider myself a political junkie. Not encyclopedic, but I know who's who. But I wouldn't be able to recognize Berger if ya showed me a picture of him surrounded by the rest of the Clinton cabinet with which he served. To me, he's just a name. And if I hadn't had a previous memory of his name, I'd swear the GOP screech machine just made the name up.

Ahhh I see.

Wow that is pretty sad if that's all they've got. I mean if it were at least a felony it might be something... but especially in preparation to testify to the 9/11 commission...

I won't discuss Hannity's comments, but Sandy Berger STOLE classified one-copy only documents from the National Archives (stuffed them into his socks to sneak them out of the building), ended up stashing them in a construction site for a while, then confessed to having destroyed them later. He plea-bargained his way down to "mishandling classified documents" for which he received probation and is not allowed access to classified material for 3 years. Anyone else with access to classified material would have been thrown UNDER the jail for this offense. Sandy gets a slap on the wrist and is working for Hillary's campaign advising on National Security issues.

So, we have a former national security advisor who destroyed Clinton administration documents related to terrorism/national security, who is now advising Hillary on issues of national security. This reeks of coverup (bad decisions by Bill, with Hillary possibly involved?) and a quid pro quo to the guy who did the deed and took the rap.

Retired Military @ 108:

I won't discuss Hannity's comments, but Sandy Berger STOLE classified one-copy only documents from the National Archives (stuffed them into his socks to sneak them out of the building), ended up stashing them in a construction site for a while, then confessed to having destroyed them later. He plea-bargained his way down to "mishandling classified documents" for which he received probation and is not allowed access to classified material for 3 years. Anyone else with access to classified material would have been thrown UNDER the jail for this offense. Sandy gets a slap on the wrist and is working for Hillary's campaign advising on National Security issues.

So, we have a former national security advisor who destroyed Clinton administration documents related to terrorism/national security, who is now advising Hillary on issues of national security. This reeks of coverup (bad decisions by Bill, with Hillary possibly involved?) and a quid pro quo to the guy who did the deed and took the rap.

So you are upset at the justice and judicial system under Bush for only giving Berger a $50,000 and making him perform community service (imho that's hardly a slap on the wrist) especially for a former national security adviser who still had clearance and no prior record and pled guilty to a crime he committed more than a year after he worked for Clinton. You must be REALLY FREAKING PISSED OFF at what Scooter Libby did and the punishment he got and even more so about other leakers like Rove who got away scot-free with destroying the career of a civil servant and breaking up a longstanding covert operation to stop the spread of weapons of mass destruction just to get back at her spouse for pointing out that they were lying about the reasons they were going to send our soldiers to fight and die for.

MargeAggedon @ 45:

Jeon Ji-Yung @ 40:

If we don't nominate a goddamned Clinton, we take away 3/4 of the Republicans' ammo. Clinton's the only candidate they'd have a prayer of beating, because they've been rehearsing for it for almost a decade.

Hillary Clinton - Official Candidate Of The New World Order. Take it to the bank. Why else would the oh-so-liberal media have been cramming her down our throats since day negative fifteen? She's bad, bad, bad news. Break the cycle. Vote for someone not named Bush or Clinton. Rocket Science this is not.

Couldn't agree more.

I agree, and I wonder why even the most ardent Hillary supporter doesn't accept this. It would be one thing, if we didn't have any good Dems on the ticket. I know it's unfair that after many years and billions spent, we can't separate Hillary the Republican Myth, from the reality -- whatever that is. But the fact remains, she is the ONLY Dem that a Republican can beat -- so what is the point? You shouldn't have a Democrat who can't win the election. You don't, of course, trade Kerry for Dean -- like we were hoodwinked about in a prior election.

Hillary MIGHT be a great president -- or she could be Republican light, and do NAFTA 2.0. I don't think we have time and enough America left to diddle with this experiment with the great Conservative failures of the 20th century any more. Let's try it with a real Democrat, the way all the big problems were tackled in the past. And I only trust someone who has been fighting the "good fight" against corruption and corporate fascism -- that person to me is Dennis Kucinch. I could live with a lot of other Dems on the ticket. But the LEAST sure-things for me are the two Republican light candidates; Hillary and Obama. Next, even though I think Biden is about the smartest foreign policy wag around -- I don't trust him because he didn't really stand up to Republicans before it was safe.

So, the best pitch against Hillary? "Why take the chance?"